thread: Trying to Conceive After Miscarriage or Loss October '08

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  1. #1
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    Aug 2008
    Adelaide
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    I've already had several responses to my email. It was quite humbling to receive all those supportive responses. I think there was an arrogance in my unwillingness to tell people because I assumed they wouldn't understand. I guess it goes to show that you should give people a chance because they WILL surprise you.

    Thankyou all for your support over the last couple of months. I really don't know how I would have coped without you all. I've bought a candle especially to light tonight for all of our babies. I have a work dinner on tonight (can you believe it?) so it won't be lit at 7pm in Adelaide, but it'll be 7pm somewhere.

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    mummy_of_3_boys Guest

    Angel Babies- your site is amazing, touching and beautiful

    Only 3 hours until candle lighting time for me here in Tas.

  3. #3
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    Jan 2008
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    I think this day not only is good from the point of view of educating others..... it is also good for us..... We get to a point where its "under control" and we keep moving forward day by day.

    For me today, I have taken the time by myself to really listen to the songs... read through the poems..... sing the songs (not a good sound considering i lost most of my voice last night)..... but sing them anyway... and the tears have just poured out..... not in a crappy way but in a memorial way....if that makes any sense at all.

    So today I have spent the day with my little angels..... I love them as much as ever... I miss them as much as ever.... They are my little angels and today is my day just for them.

    While I can I want to thank everyone I have met on this site since I first logged on.... the 1st January this year.... the day after I lost Krystal and the day I lost Cameron...... I have met so many amaizing ladies.... some of which i am waiting to hear the good news....NICKSTER.....yes... singling you out...I was at the most down point I had ever been....If I was to read back on the posts I did back then I think I would just lose it..... But these wonderful ladies were there... they understood....and even though most of them have now moved on.... I now have another group of wonderful ladies that I get to be with each day.... they are there for me and I m there for them..... So to all of you... thankyou for making this journey just that little bit easier. Huge hugs to you all

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    Apr 2007
    NSW
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    Thanks for the poems Angel. Absolutely lovely and very touching, they brought tears to my eyes again for mine and all of our angels....

    xx

  5. #5

    Oct 2005
    A Nestle Free Zone... What about YOU?
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    Just to let you lovely ladies know - posting poems and songs is welcome and lovely. However this thread is for chatting about TTCAML and we ask that it be kept to that. You will see we have a thread specifically for sharing poems/lyrics etc. I have moved AngelBabies contributions there.
    Also - when posting please post just once with all your messages - consecutive posts for different messages creates extra load on our site - a long post is absolutely fine...

    If somebody has any problems/queries/concerns you can contact myself Mistyflying or Niliac.

    You will find the poems HERE

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    Jan 2008
    573

    Once again we are reminded. But NOTHING can take away from today.

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    Jan 2008
    573

    Well its 5pm my time (QLD) and I confess.... I lite the candles earlier today. I have one sitting on either side of the TV...... But for those of you sticking to the rules its starting to come up to 7pm.... well actually if you were over in NZ it would be 7pm.... so betty boop.... if your still lurking... time to light.....

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    Oct 2007
    Brisbane
    320

    My candle is lit. I miss you baby boy.

    I had a beautiful lunch today with my heavily pregnant girlfriend and I was reminded that I am so lucky to have wonderful friends who support me in here and in my real life. Thank you ladies, I honestly do not know what I would have done without you all over the last few weeks.

    May today bring some peace to us all.

    Adele

  9. #9
    Registered User

    Dec 2005
    In Bankworld with Barbara
    14,222

    I just wanted to post these again in the thread, as a single post. I hope you don't mine that I have added a little bit of formatting to them.

    A Pair of Shoes

    I am wearing a pair of shoes.
    They are ugly shoes.
    Uncomfortable shoes.
    I hate my shoes.
    Each day I wear them, and each day I wish I had another pair.
    Some days my shoes hurt so bad that I do not think I can take another step.
    Yet, I continue to wear them.
    I get funny looks wearing these shoes.
    I can tell in others eyes that they are glad they are my shoes and not theirs.
    They never talk about my shoes.
    To learn how awful my shoes are might make them uncomfortable.
    To truly understand these shoes you must walk in them.
    But, once you put them on, you can never take them off.
    I now realize that I am not the only one who wears these shoes.
    There are many pairs in this world.
    Some woman are like me and ache daily as they try and walk in them.
    Some have learned how to walk in them so they dont hurt quite as much.
    Some have worn the shoes so long that days will go by before they think about how much they hurt.
    No woman deserves to wear these shoes.
    Yet, because of these shoes I am a stronger woman.
    These shoes have given me the strength to face anything.
    They have made me who I am.
    I will forever walk in the shoes of a woman who has lost a child.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    Cameron Azrael & Krystal Sariel

    We'll never get to hold you,
    Or look upon your face.
    We'll never get to show you,
    Our love through our embrace.

    We'll never have the feeling,
    Of you calling out to us.
    We'll never know the feeling,
    Of you looking up to us.

    Why you were taken away from us ,
    We'll never really know.
    We look around for a sign,
    As to why you werent to grow.

    There is nothing we can do right now
    Our minds are an absolute mess.
    There is confusion, sadness, sorry,
    And anger I must confess.

    Our tears can not bring you back,
    Back into our world.
    You are gone from us on this plain
    We'll meet again I know.

    So until that time I ll say to you,
    And you must listen to your mummy.
    Watch out for us when we come one day,
    Your mummy and your daddy.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    Why did my babies have to leave?
    Why did they have to die?
    I'm left down here just wondering,
    Why are we left to cry?
    What did I do to make them leave?
    Why Lord, could they not stay?
    You knew I'd love them very much,
    Why take them far away?

    'My child', said God, 'please understand
    I hear you as you pray,
    Your children never left you,
    For in your heart s they'll stay.
    I needed your sweet angels
    In my nursery up above,
    They learned life's lessons quickly,
    My child, you taught them love!

    I let them visit often,
    As in your bed you sleep,
    They come and lay beside you,
    And gently strokes your cheek.
    When troubles fall upon you,
    And you don't understand,
    I send your Angel Children
    To guide you by the hand.

    Please trust in me as on your way
    In life you gently tread,
    For Babies are right beside you,
    I tell you, they're not dead'
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Remembering

    Go ahead and mention them,
    the ones that died you know.

    Don't worry about hurting me further,
    the depth of my pain doesn't show.

    Don't worry about making me cry,
    I'm already crying inside.

    Help me to heal by releasing,
    the tears that I try to hide.

    I'm hurting when you just keep silent,
    pretending they didn't exist.

    I'd rather you mention them,
    knowing they will be missed.

    You asked me how I was doing,
    I say "Pretty Good" or "Fine"

    But healing is something ongoing,
    I feel it will take a lifetime.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    DO YOU REMEMBER?
    Do you remember all the days, the hours, the moments
    That you shared your life with me, nestled in my womb?
    The feelings of joy, the happiness I felt knowing you were there?
    I do. Do you remember the day I lost you, that day filled with gloom?
    When I felt my world collapse around me, my heart filling with regret
    At the thought of you just dying inside of me? Yes, I do.
    Can you remember me talking softly to you whilst you were growing
    Inside of me? Telling you all of our plans, even your name?
    I can. Do you remember hearing my voice singing softly to you?
    Can you still feel all my love for you even though you have left?
    I feel it still. Do you feel it baby, do you remember me, your mummy?
    I hope so , for you are still locked in my heart, locked so
    Tightly, and I'll never let you go 'til it stops beating and I see you
    In Heaven, and you say, 'Mummy, I remember you, yes,
    I remember it all.'
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    DEAR MOTHER
    Dear mother, dry your tears today, you know I love you so.
    It hurts me much to see you cry, oh mother, don't you know?
    I'll never leave you all alone, I never left your heart,
    God took me by the hand that day but said we'd never part.
    He kept His promise to me, I visit all the time,
    You are the sweetest mother an Angel here could find.
    If I could write a letter, I'm sure you know I would
    To let you know I'm safe from harm and Heaven is so good!
    I'm here with many Angels, so many that you know!
    Our family sends all their love to you on earth below.
    We know one day we'll meet again when one day you come home,
    We've saved a place for you dear mum, it's near our Father's throne.
    We'll wrap our arms around you mum and lead you up God's stairs,
    'Til then dear mum, please carry on and dry those streaming tears.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    WHY?
    Why did you have to leave me?
    Why did you have to fly?
    Was I not meant to keep you?
    Why do I have to cry?
    I want you back here with us,
    Things will never be the same.
    How can I carry on just now
    And play life's awful game?
    I hope one day we meet again
    In Heaven up above,
    I hope you all can feel
    That I'm sending you my love.
    Just play on precious Angels,
    But will you promise me?
    The day I'm called to Heaven
    You'll be at the gates for me?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Dear God,
    Please love my Angels that dwell with you above,
    Please hug them for me tightly with your precious, tender love,
    Dear God,
    Please sing them lullabys as they lay down to sleep,
    Please comfort them and just be there if they should ever weep.
    Please let them know I love them both and wish I understood
    The reason they're in Heaven, please tell them to be good.
    Are fluffy clouds their pillows, to lay their heads at night?
    And do the stars just twinkle to give them little light?
    Will you watch them all so carefully and always hold their hand?
    And answer all the questions that a child can't understand?
    Do you tell them all about me, do they know just who I am?
    Are they with my family, my Nana and Grandma?
    God,
    do you ever pick them up and sit them on your knee?
    And rock them oh so gently if they ever cry for me?
    God,
    do they play with children's toys in Heaven up above?
    And have they met your precious son that died for us in love?
    I have so many questions Lord, I want to understand
    Just why my little Angels are up there, was their life planned?
    I dwell down here and feel like we're a thousand miles apart,
    Please help me God, please hear my plea,
    Just mend this broken heart!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    A MOTHER'S GRIEF
    She carries such a heavy heart, her tears will often flow,
    Seems everyone's avoiding her, seems no-one wants to know!
    Her grief she carries all alone, nobody seems to care,
    Or help her ease this burden, this burden she must bear.
    Her baby has just left her, but where, where did he go?
    Why did he have to leave so soon, and will she ever know?
    A mother's grief's a lonely path, she only wants her child,
    For other's understanding, their love, if only mild!
    To talk of her lost baby, acknowledge her real pain,
    To tell her life will soon be bright, she'll see her child again,
    For he has gone to Heaven, an Angel up above,
    Where there's no tears or dying, just great eternal love.
    Try understand this mother's grief, praise God it was not you
    That lost your precious, wanted child, for he was wanted too!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    These are two songs I listen to when I want to feel close to my 's
    Celine Dion - Fly
    Avril Lavine- Slipped Away
    Maybe you would like to listen to them tonight while your candles are burning
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Think Before you speak

    Dear friend, today you broke my heart,
    In a place that was unbroken.
    You did it with your thoughtless words
    That should not have been spoken.

    You know that I am grieving
    That my pain is deep and real
    Your hurtful words pierced like a knife
    How do you think I feel

    You may not suffer my loss
    Or share this lonely grief
    But I m mourning my baby,
    Who s life was much too brief

    I m sure you dont know how I feel
    I dont expect you to
    dont ask me to get over it
    thats something I cant do

    Without grief there is no healing
    Its a journey I must make
    Its not the path I would choose
    But one I m forced to take

    No matter how you choose to see
    What I am going through
    I need compassion and support
    I d do the same for you
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Just Say ?Im Sorry?

    You dont know how I feel
    Please dont tell me that you do
    There is just one way to know - have you lost a child too?
    You'll have another child!? - must I hear this each day?
    Can I get another Father , too, if mine should pass away?

    Dont say it was gods will
    That s not the god I know.
    Would god on purpose break my heart,
    Then watch as my tears flow?

    arent you better yet??
    Is that what I heard you say?
    NO! A part of my heat aches -
    I ll always feel some pain.
    You think that silence is kind,
    But it hurts me even more.
    I want to talk about my child
    Who has gone through deaths door.

    Dont say these things to me,
    Although you do mean well.
    They dont take the pain away;
    I must go through this hell.
    I will get better slow but sure -
    And it helps to have you near.
    But a simple 'I m sorry you lost your child?'
    Is all I need to hear.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    To Where You Are By Josh Groban
    To Where You Are

    Who can say for certain
    Maybe youre still here
    I feel you all around me
    Your memories so clear

    Deep in the stillness
    I can hear you speak
    Youre still an inspiration
    Can it be (? )
    That you are mine
    Forever love
    And you are watching over me from up above

    Fly me up to where you are
    Beyond the distant star
    I wish upon tonight
    To see you smile
    If only for awhile to know youre there
    A breath aways not far
    To where you are

    Are you gently sleeping
    Here inside my dream
    And isnt faith believing
    All power cant be seen

    As my heart holds you
    Just one beat away
    I cherish all you gave me everyday
    cause you are mine
    Forever love
    Watching me from up above

    And I believe
    That angels breathe
    And that love will live on and never leave

    Fly me up
    To where you are
    Beyond the distant star
    I wish upon tonight
    To see you smile
    If only for awhile
    To know youre there
    A breath aways not far
    To where you are

    I know you?re there
    A breath aways not far
    To where you are
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    My Name By George Canyon
    The words to this song are from the unborn baby. This one still brings tears to my eyes every time i listen to it.... it is so beautiful and exactly how I see it.... They are still up there our little angels.... waiting.


    Its cold in here feels like everythings upside down
    I can feel you talking but I can barely make out the sound
    I been kicking around these parts, feels like a year
    Im gonna change this world if I ever get out of here
    She wants to dress me in pink, paints my bedroom blue
    And I just laugh to myself, because only I know the truth
    This love is my only emotion
    Havent learned any fear any pain
    Its kind of funny with all this commotion
    I guess theyve got me to blame
    And they dont even know my name
    And they dont even know my name

    Well Ive never felt so ready, think its finally time
    Cause that big old world is waiting, and its mine all mine
    Just then everything got real quiet, it got real bright
    And a man took my hand said dont worry, your momma's gonna be all right
    Then he opened the gate, & I followed him in
    Said you can wait right here till its your turn again
    And his love is the one true emotion
    Heaven knows no fear no pain
    I never got to set my wheels in motion
    But they loved me just the same
    And they never even knew name
    Didnt even know my name
    You loved me just the same
    And you didnt even know my name
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Fly

    Fly
    Fly, fly little wing
    Fly beyond imagining
    The softest cloud, the whitest dove
    Upon the wing of Heaven's love
    Past the planets and the stars
    Leave this lonely world of ours
    Escape the sorrow and the pain
    And fly again

    Fly, fly precious one
    Your endless journey has begun
    Take your gentle happiness
    Far too beautiful for this
    Cross over to the other shore
    There is peace forevermore
    But hold this memory bittersweet
    Until we meet

    Fly, fly do not fear
    Don't waste a breath, don't shed a tear
    Your heart is pure, your soul is free
    Be on your way, don't wait for me
    Above the universe you'll climb
    On beyond the hands of time
    The moon will rise, the sun will set
    But I won't forget

    Fly, fly little wing
    Fly where only angels sing
    Fly away, the time is right
    Go now, find the light.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Miss You
    Na na, na na na, na na
    I miss you, miss you so bad
    I don't forget you, oh it's so sad
    I hope you can hear me
    I remember it clearly

    The day you slipped away
    Was the day I found it won't be the same
    Ooooh

    Na na la la la na na

    I didn't get around to kiss you
    Goodbye on the hand
    I wish that I could see you again
    I know that I can't

    Oooooh
    I hope you can hear me cause I remember it clearly

    The day you slipped away
    Was the day I found it won't be the same
    Ooooh

    I had my wake up
    Won't you wake up
    I keep asking why
    And I can't take it
    It wasn't fake
    It happened, you passed by

    Now your gone, now your gone
    There you go, there you go
    Somewhere I can't bring you back
    Now your gone, now your gone
    There you go, there you go,
    Somewhere your not coming back

    The day you slipped away
    Was the day i found it won't be the same noo..
    The day you slipped away
    Was the day that i found it won't be the same oooh...

    Nah nah, nah nah nah, nah nah
    I miss you