Thanks Tanya we did Bd this morning and will probably try again tonight. You could be right about the O pains but it's just a little strange as I have NEVER had pains like this before. I had very little CM yesterday and noticed some this morning after the deed (I'm pretty sure it wasn't from BD) but I could be wrong....who knows....not going to worry about it as we have given it a bloody good shot this month . Take care.