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Thread: Trying to Conceive after Late Loss, Still Birth or Recurrent Miscarriage June '08 #2

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    jo-- Congrats on a great scan and on your I'm so happy for you that you felt no apprehension with this scan, and it turned out just perfect!! How awesome of the sonographer to point everything out, and really just help to make you feel calm and at ease! Now if only you'd put up that ticker you keep mentioning!


    Sue--Your temp is still above that coverline, don't give up just yet! I'm and toes for you!


    meldazel--I'm so sorry to have read of your losses I, too, have 4 angels in heaven I had 3 m/c before I had my youngest son, and had no complications with his pg'cy, so the last m/c in Mar. was quite unexpected. My dr. ordered a full panel of BT's to make sure there wasn't anything genetically wrong with me that was causing my body to "abort" (I hate that term, you would think they could come up with a better term for a 1st trimester loss!) my babies. Anyhow BT's all came back normal, so felt much relief and less guilt that I had something to do with it. I would definitely suggest asking for BT's, if anything to put your mind at ease--especially after 4 losses! Your TTC journey has had so many ups and downs, I pray you find the answers you're seeking with your new specialist! I think if I remember correctly, today is your D & C--you're in my thoughts and prayers, hun! Take care, rest up, and I really look forward to getting to know you better! Big


    Tildy--I'm so, so sorry for your loss! It always amazes me that people would expect you to go through this again in order to give you the answers you're seeking! I agree that you should insist on BT's, like Katiegirl said, there's a dr. out there somewhere that uses a more proactive approach and will have only the best of intentions with your care. While none of my losses were late losses, the pain is still very present and real, so I truly understand your anguish! I'm sure you read it in my post to mel, but I had a successful pg'cy after 3 m/c's--granted I had another m/c after my son, but his pg'cy was uneventful, so don't give up hope! Sending lots of hugs and babydust your way!




    Hi Katiegirl!! How's your baby girl treating you? Hope your giving yourself lots of

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    Hi Jen - the baby has been moving a lot the last few days which has been nice considering how sick I have been. Today I am back working (even though I have a home office) - so it should be interesting to see how long my concentration span is. I am looking for to my husband being able to feel the baby move. He is so excited about having this baby (as he was with our first) so it will be a joy to share the feeling of the baby moving with him.

    Jen good luck as you start this cycle. I am looking forward to having a few more BFPs in here.

    Hope you are all well.

    Thanks

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    Good morning everyone,

    Meldazel - I am so sorry to hear of your losses . I read your story and it broke my heart. I understand where you are coming from with 3 losses on my own and ttc for 2 1/2 years with natural and IVF. I am currently going through all the testing etc and will be getting my results tonight (appt 4.30pm). Keep positive.

    Jo - I am so happy about your scan and glad everything is going really well. It really helps when you have a compassionate senographer.

    Tildy - I am so sorry that you lost your little bubs . I have never lost a bubs that late and can not fully comprehend what you are going through. I am finding it hard enough to lose a bubs before 12 weeks!!! I wish you all the best.

    A big hello to Tempus, Rozzie, hgirs, Katiegirl and Jen805.

    I also was very frustrated t that Dr's would not do anything until you had 3 miscarriages. As I went through Repromed they did some basic testing, but only now because I have had 3 angels, they now have done further testing.

    Well with me, my temperature dipped again and I still have spotting. Just waiting for AF to arrive.

    I am going to Repromed to get our results for myself and DH and I am that all is OK. Though I hope there is something I can work on...... Difficult isnt it!!!

    Anyway I wish everyone a fabulous day.

    xxx Sue xxx

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    Welcome Tildy, I am sorry for your loss but you'll find plenty of inspiration, advice and support here. Katie and Jo are both pregnant, and if you pop over to the Pregnancy After Stillbirth thread there are pregnant women as well as though who have already had their baby after a loss.

    Katie, are the tests that your ob did to do with Nathaniel's passing or to assess your health? I had lots of blood tests at the hospital when I went in to deliver Hamish but I wonder if there's more that can be investigated? I'm definitely changing my ob and already have a recommendation from another Sydney lady on BB... Did you see your new ob before or after you got pregnant again?

    The girls in my ex Belly Buddy group are starting to have their babies now. I would've started maternity leave at the end of next week :-(((((((((((((((

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    Hi all
    I am sitting here doing my bookwork, trying to get up to date for end of Fin yr! Every time I say I am not letting this go so long again...what happens? I get lumped with months of paperwork, reconciliations etc you would think I would learn my lesson!!! Hence I shouldn't be writing on here! Anyway all is good my end, on CD5 on first cycle, lets see what nature has in store for me

    Tempus - Hi, crossing my fingers for you!

    Jen - Looks like we are on the same CD!

    Rozzie - Bugger about AF, hopefully now your cycles will get back to normal. I had 'blink and you'd miss it spotting' about 7 weeks after Cooper's birth and have now just got my first 'real' period at 91/2weeks, here's hoping yours is back to normal now.

    Sryan - I am assuming AF did come??

    Katiegirl - A whole new chapter for you now, I am so excited for you!

    Jo - Where is the ticker??

    Hammi - Hi, how is the natural therapies going?

    Meldazel & Tildy - Welcome, words are very inadequate when we lose our much loved babies, goodluck on your journey's.

    I have to have too pages open at once to remember everybody!!!

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    Hi Hammi - tests were one on Nathaniel both chromosomal and other pathology to check for infection etc and all were negative. The only tests not done were anatomical due to it being a D&C rather than birth. I then requested with my first ob that blood tests be done on me. My sister told me that her dr ordered blood tests after her first late loss, so I knew it was not all drs that wait for 3 mcs. My Ob thought it not necessary, and he said there were endless amount of tests that could be done - but I had a short list that my naturopath had given me and I insisted they were carried out.

    Then when I went to my new ob - the wonderful Mark Umstad - he said that there were a lot more tests he wanted done and ordered the rest. He is very proactive and believes that you should look into it at the start rather than waiting for further losses to occur - one of the many reasons I am so happy with him.

    I had booked in to see him prior to pregnancy and he prefers this (in fact not sure he takes new patients unless they are on the books prior to pregnancy - but I could be wrong). His office call this appointment 'pre-pregnancy counselling' and this is where he does all the investigating etc. I had made the booking in Dec and the first appointment was 27 Feb. At that appointment he asked me to stop TTCing until all the test results arrived back (he said approx. 1 month). As it turns out I was already pregnant and when I called to tell him most of the tests had come back and all were negative. I went to what would have been the follow up appointment (booked in before knowing I was preg) and this happened to coincide with being 7 weeks.

    So yes I have had a 1000000 tests done and it has given me the peace of mind to know that I do not have any disorders, clotting conditions etc and no meds need to be taken etc. I would definitely recommend finding a specialist that you can trust and also respect.

    That is my big blurb - hi to all.

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    Hi everyone,

    It makes me feel better to see that things are going well for Jo and Katiegirl. I will follow you guys closely and you'll be in my thoughts.

    I just posted my story in the "Your stories" forum about my miscarriage. It's a VERY long post. I hope you guys have the stamina, heh. But therefore I'm not going to say much more now... I'm pretty exhausted after all that typing. It's not as good a day today as yesterday, but I think I'll be pretty okay.

    I met my close friend's new son yesterday. She gave birth on Sunday. I managed it quite well, actually. Oddly, it's way easy for me to see her now with the little baby than it was for me to see her stroking her bulging belly. But it made me feel good that just two days after they had a baby, they invited us over for dinner, just us -- that helped with my feeling of people not caring about me.

    *hugs* to you, I already feel very good to be here.

    -Tildy

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    Hi Tildy,

    I'm glad you've found your way here, your story is so sad. Many of us are TTC after 2nd trimester losses, so you're not alone.

    Good luck!

    Rozzie

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    Hi All,
    Just thought I'd check in and see how you are all doing?
    I had the D&C yesterday and feeling pretty sore today as is to be expected...

    Sue - did you get your test results back yet?

    Katiegirl - im glad to hear you are feeling better

    Jen - thank you so much for sharing your story - I am definitely going to ask for a full range of tests. Its comforting to know that others have had 3 or more m/c's and gone on to have healty babies - Im so happy for you.

    Tildy - I have read your story and my heart aches for you. I am so sorry for your loss.

    To all the other here I look forward to catching up with your stories soon.

    Hugs to all
    Mel

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    Hi all,

    Well got my test results last night and there is a little concern....

    Apparently I have 12% chromosone issues. Basically the standard chromosone is 46xx and 12% of mine are 45x.

    They say it is very border line and it can be effected by:

    Laboratory Effect
    Age Effect (which is 10%)
    Turners Mosaic

    I am having a skin biopsy next week and that will take 4 weeks to get the results back. They say the skin biopsy is the only way to determine and that blood tests are 100% accurate.

    With speaking to my Dr, he doesnt think I have Turners Mosiac as normally people with this condition have no egg supply, short and has heart disease (which I have none of these).

    If I do have this condition though, what I can do is at the time of IVF they can remove a cell from an embreyo and check whether it has 45x or 46xx and eliminate the issue.

    Though when I had my second m/c, they did testing on the embreyo and it came back as there was nothing wrong. So I am not sure. Very Confusing.

    Anyway trying to stay positive and just have to wait again for more results.

    xxx Sue xxx

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    Tildy--I've just read your story, and have had to regain control of my emotions. I've never heard of someone being treated so inhumanly! I'm so glad you followed through with your complaints! I'm so very sorry for your loss, and am at a complete loss of words... thanks for sharing your story, it had to be so very hard to type out. I hope getting it out has helped in some small way, I know for me it helped quite a bit just putting it to words. Please remember we're here anytime you need to vent or grieve... Big you're in my
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    Oh Tildy, I read your story this morning and felt so distraught for you! To lose your little baby is horrific enough but to be treated so inhumanely throughout your loss is despicable. I am very sorry you've had to go through this. Do you have a feeling whether your baby was a boy or girl? Have you named your bub?

    Thanks Katie for all that information on testing. I will definitely book in for pre-conception counselling but I think I should wait till I get Hamish's full autopsy result since the new ob will want to see them anyway?

    Sue... the things we go through to become mothers! But just think, every test you're doing is bringing you one step closer to holding your baby in your arms.

    Mel, rest up and take care of yourself. You've been through a lot.

    Hi everyone else.

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    Hi Tildy,

    I also read your message today. I am so so so sorry for what happened to you, DH and your angel.

    xxx Sue xxx

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    Hi Sue it seems the results have given you some insight into what is going on. I agree with Hammi that now at least you know what the problem may be and you can work towards eliminating it and bringing yourself closer to that much wanted bub.
    I think I have heard of the IVF chromasome testing in the embryo - is it called PGD???
    I can't wait to get my tests done - Im a bit of a control freak so I hate "not knowing". For me, I believe that as long as the problem is identified it can be solved!!!!

    Hope everyone else is doing ok...

    Mel xo

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    Tildy - I just wanted to send you a big hug Reading your story broke my heart and I will admit I cried. No one had the right to treat you or your precious baby in such a way. I hope the coming months brings you some peace, and know that your angel is always with you.

    Hi to everyone - too tired to do personals at the moment. Will try later.

    But just to give you all a little lift - I have felt the baby kick on the outside for the first time. I feel I have really turned a corner and knowing that my baby is now big enough to actually kick that hard is a lovely feeling. I think at times I never thought I would get to this point - but here I am. And I know you will all have this pleasure to enjoy yourselves soon enough.

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    Yay for baby kicks. Tell us more about your progress Katie and Jo!

    I read about Mel1977's loss in the Pregnancy After Late Loss thread yesterday and I have been freaking out ever since. To lose one baby is devastating enough, but for it to happen again... I don't know her at all but my heart caved in as soon as I read about her sad news.

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    Hammi - I was going to let you all know the other day about Mel's baby Joshua but I couldn't bring myself to. As you can see the passing of Joshua after just 1 week on this earth has really shaken all of us ladies in the Preg after Late Loss thread. I know Mel not just through these forums but also through a support group we go to, and it breaks my heart to know that she has once again lost her precious baby boy. She is a wonderful woman and has helped me so much since losing Nathaniel right through to getting to this stage of my preg - in fact she was the one who told me to call my current ob who you all know I love. My heart breaks for her each day and also for Nicholas and Joshua.

    If anything ladies, it should remind us to appreciate every day we have and to never give up hope no matter how hard or dark the times may be.

    So big hugs everyone and stay strong that your turn will come and we will all have the chance to hold our precious babies one day soon.

    Also...just to bring some hope. This baby was kicking the hell out of me last night. It is the first time I have ever felt proper kicks and it is kind of freaky. Yet everytime I got DH's hand so he could feel the baby would go silent - we had images of our little girl giggling away very cheekily. He thinks she is going to be like me!

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    Hi all,

    Yes I was so sorry and tears flowed when I was reading about Mel. I can not fully comprehend something like that and was so upset for her and DH.

    Katiegirl, it was so nice to see a good story today... especially the big kicks all last night. I dream of when that will happen for me and long to have it soon.

    With me, I still havent fully got AF. Just spotting, though my temperatures have dipped to close to the cover line. I am sure I will have an enjoyable weekend with it... he he he

    I wish everyone a safe and happy weekend and look forward to speaking to you all next week.

    xxx Sue xxx

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