Trying to Conceive after Still Birth/ Late Loss/Recurrant Miscarriage ~ December 2008

ok girls (in my bestest singing voice) "Paula is a stupid twit, stupid twit, stupid twit, Paula is a stupid twit and so say all of us!!!"

I have been checking my emails every day to see if anyone has been posting and nothing has come through. I was picturing everyone off partying and wondering if Lan had peed on a stick yet and then I realised DH had been on the computer and my emails had come through without me realising. What I thought was an old message was actually a new one and because I didn't click on it, I didn't get anymore.

Here I was thinking no-one loved me and it was all DH's fault... lucky for him we are ttc or he would be getting no action for that naughtiness!!

OK well I have quickly read through everyone's posts and feel a little more up to date now.

Lan: what is going on. How dare AF show her ugly head. (picture me secretly giggling like mutley because now I have you as a ttc buddy for another month!) I did want to say though that I have read in a few books that everyday does affect DH's sperm count or something so every second day is recommended. Don't tell DH I said that, he might get cross for reduced action this month!

Sue: wooooooooohooooooooooo on all the baby stuff. You guys are such legends I am so proud of you for taking the plunge. I bet little Lily is in there getting so excited about all her new stuff. I can picture her now posing in all her new gear for all those wonderful bubba snaps you'll be sharing with us in just a few months time. I cannot wait and am beside myself with excitement for you guys.

Rozzie: fingers crossed for Wednesday. Look at your ticker go. When did you get to 26 weeks. It seems to have happened overnight. OMG this group is getting so excited I can hardly contain myself.

Tildy: what a bugger about your hips and sinuses. I agree with your DH.. no more cat duty for you. You are carrying a precious bundle for all of us atm so don't go doing anything stupid again. BTW 27 weeks! Crazy speedy ticker of yours! I am LOVING it!!

Katie: please tell us about xmas with Anna. I bet you were a little sad missing Nathaniel but hopefully got to have so many gorgeous moments with Anna that overall it was your best xmas every! Lets hope we can all share in some of that joy this time next year!

Beata: I'm glad I am not the only one to have a few drinkies over the last week or so. I feel like the Devil reincarnate as I got a little plastered on xmas night and then had 2 glasses of wine on NYE, when I was 4 days PG!! You must be loving the holidays, I have been. DH and I have been the beach for a swim the last 3 mornings in a row, for the first time in years. It was quite for ttc. Something about a quick swim in the ocean and being carefree whilst M&FIL looked after DS!!

Helen: bring on Tuesday hey. I want to know your little bub is doing well in there. It is still so early for regular movement at 17weeks (nearly 18!!). I live for news from scans on this thread. It is such a buzz to hear how all our little bubbies are doing. I will eagerly await your update on Tues night when I get home from work.

Theresa: you poor love. We all feel your pain and if only we were able to take it away for you. The best we can offer is an understanding ear and hopefully you find some kind of solace in the fact that on some level we feel your pain as if it is our own because we have all experienced losses that no-one should ever have to experience. Please take care of yourself.

Jo: I hope you surviving this time of year. Hugs to you and all your angels, earth and heaven!!

OH no now I'm running out of time. I really wanted to share 2 things with you girls.

Firstly: as most of you know I am on this health kick (you didn't read the bit about the wine and plastering on xmas night did you!!! good!!!) anyway... i was on the treadmill doing my run on NYD and I often chat to Charlie whilst running because I get inspiration from her. So I was feeling a bit lousy that I was starting yet another year without a bub in my arms. I have read (Allison Dubois book if anyone is interested) that spirits can affect electrical objects and often communicate to us via a song on the radio etc. So I had my ipod in and I told Charlie that I really needed to know that she was with us and could she please send me a song on my ipod so that I would know she was around.

Now I have over 1000 songs on my ipod and had it set to random. I was chasticing myself because I thought all the songs that I normally play when thinking of Charlie are really slow and they wouldn't be any good to run to. Anyway, so the next song comes on and before I saw what it was I forwarded it because it was slow... but just as I did I saw what it was called. I freaked out and quickly reversed back to it. I have not heard this song for years and it nevers comes up on my random play (you know how it seems your random always plays the same songs over and over again). I had never listened to it as it being a song about Charlie but when I did I had serious sweat coming out my tear ducts... the song was "Angels" by Robbie Williams. I was completely freaking out. I am so sure it was my little girl sending me a song. Even some of the lyrics were very pertintent to things that I have been dealing with lately. Have a listen to it if you have it. It is really lovely when you listen from the perspective of all of our losses.

Anyway, a bit of a ramble but I thought some of you girls might enjoy the story.

My second piece of news is the ttc news. DH and I had unprotected "relations" last night for the first time. The real conception day is tomorrow but I read its good to go 2 days before to get rid of old swimmers!! I am a bit confused about my ovulation date though. My charting is a bit confusing and I have 2 significant temperature increases each cycle. Fertility friend says I ovulate on day 10 but then after my second temp spike on about day 17 it says, sorry we can't work you out!! So I guess I will have to do 2 rounds of ttc planned "relations" just to be on the safe side.

The good news is that I had no pain with AF or PMS this time round and really think my progesterone levels must be getting back to normal and are ready to take care of this baby.

BTW if any of you charting experts can show me how to post my fertility friend chart I would love you all to have a look and let me know when you think ovulation is. I think mucus wise its day 10 but I get very confused. Dumb blonde!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL!

love
Paula

Oh Paula, you make me laugh! The very image of you sniggering like Mutley is priceless. Having you as a TTC-ing buddy is one of my only consolation for missing out the last cycle. I also remember that I'm supposed to be Diana's labour buddy so we're all just going to have to conceive this cycle.

I got goosebumps down my neck with your 'Angels' story. Ethan is so intuitive, it's no surpise his sister is also able to find ways to communicate with you despite worldly barriers. I must say that I haven't 'felt' Hamish for months now. According to Buddhist beliefs he would have moved on by now but I can't let go of him being my son so how could he let go of me being his mother? The only way I know that I still have some connection with him is that my mum's medical treatment is going really well - like amazing the doctors with the results. My mum firmly believes that it's because Hamish is helping her.

Rozzie, thanks for telling me that you were TTC-ing all through last 2007. We also started trying at the beginning of that year and here we are still. I know it takes time and things happen when they're meant to but goodness me, for others, babies seem to just happen! But look at you, officially in the third trimester now. Is next week's scan just a normal check up or specifically to check blood flow? Either way, I look forward to hearing about it and seeing the little person (I was going to say little guy but we're not 100% on that are we?) again.

Tildy, you gave me such a fright falling down the stairs like that. Hold on to the banister with both hands when coming down those stairs now and let the cats walk themselves! Congrats to you also on Kebab graduating to the third trimester. Are you getting a scan soon? Have we confirmed that Kebab is a boy?

Sue, congrats on buying all the baby stuff! When will you actually receive them? It is a scary commitment to make isn't it but such a wonderful thing to be able to do - setting up a room for your little bub. Did you get all girly stuff? Did you get letters to spell out Lily on her door? I didn't realise that you're only one month behind Rozzie and Tildy.

It's such a grey morning. Greyness is depressing. I'm solar powered, give me some sunshine!

Oh Paula, when you're on your Fertility Friend page, look down the menu along the left hand side of the screen. Click on Sharing then Homepage Setup. That page has the URL you can share with us at the top of it. Just paste that into your message and we'll be able to click on it. :-)

ok so I think I've done it... fingers crossed!

2316aa Ovulation Charts

did it work??

Paula -- yup, it worked, if you're on cycle day 7 today (Jan 3) and your temp was 36.1 :) If your cycle is strange for FF to figure out then it's best to just BD every other day all the time!

Lan -- Sorry this wasn't your month, hon. :( But you're just warming up! Yup, DH was pretty serious about how I'm not allowed to go down the stairs anymore until I'm fully awake, so he'll be letting the cats out from now on, heh. This morning I couldn't sleep because of sinus crap so I went downstairs at 5, but then I was like, "Okay, holding on to everything and making sure I'm flat on my feet on every step!" I couldn't have hit hard though because the only thing that ended up hurting at all is the arch in my left foot (it slammed into the railing) and only if I actually press on it with my hands. I even called the maternity ward just to make sure and they told me not to worry, but made a note about it.

And nope, it's not at all confirmed that Kebab is a boy. It's just because we've been using Kebab as a pet name that we tend to say "he"; otherwise it's still 50/50! I hope for a girl, but remember that I never said that if it ends up being a boy! Next scan is in 2-3 weeks if at all -- I have an appointment with the high risk OB in week 30 and I presume she'll do a scan. I'll have to squint so I don't see any winkies or not and spoil the surprise.

But we still haven't bought anything yet! This has been one major slacker vacation for us, but we're not going back to work until Wednesday Jan 7, so we've still got time to at least get the rearranging done and get the baby's room empty. At that point, filling it up will be easy.

This belly thing is starting to feel so funny. I really feel like there's just a big water balloon inside me -- which, of course, there is, but I wasn't expecting it to feel like that. It seems to live a life of its own, sloshing and sloshing around. It even went "bloop bubble bloop" once today when I sat down and I freaked out that the bag had popped or something :P Is this normal?

Good morning my lovelies and (it will be) a VERY HAPPY YEAR for us all.

Firstly, Lan I am so sorry AF dared to show her ugly head. She is a total cow. Jan is our month, I know it. I didn't know your mum was ill Lan, I am so very sorry to hear that. How wonderful of Hamish to be keeping a watchful eye on her and helping her along in her treatment.

Paula, I got shivers. I really believe our angels give us very small signs that they are with us. On Sebastian's EDD (which was also the anniversary of my beautiful mum's death), there was a little orange butterfly in my courtyard at home which decided to stay put for about an hour or so then flew off. Didn't think anything of it at all...... Anyway, that evening I was chatting to my MIL and she said she was in the kitchen cooking when a butterfly flew in and sat on her benchtop for a while, and you guessed it, it was orange! I felt so comforted and just knew it was them coming to tell us they were together and ok (i buried Sebastian with my mum so I know they are together).
I have never charted so sorry I can't be any help in that area.

Rozzie, congratulations on reaching your third trimester!All the best for Wednesday!!

Tildy, step away from the stairs, step away from the stairs! Thank God you didn't hurt yourself and Kebab is ok. What a fright!

Sue, how exciting buying baby stuff hey? I've actually still got stuff I purchased for Sebastian on lay-by. I called them and they said I could go in and get my deposit back but I just can't bring myself to go into the store yet.

Beata, hope you are enjoying your time away. Not long now until you get your fibroid removed, recover quickly and completely and get preggers with the rest of us!

Helen, can't wait to hear all the fantastic news after Tuesday!

Theresa darling, big big hugs to you. I hope you are feeling a little stronger today. We are all here for you.

Katie, I hope you had a lovely Xmas with Anna with Nathaniel in your heart and thoughts I'm sure....

Jo, hope you are doing ok and you feel up to joining us again soon.

Jo (Luke's mum), how are you hun? Still in hospital?

Megan, you've been awfully quiet lately. Hope you are doing ok.

I'm 12 days pregnant today (I so love your theory and mantra Paula that I too am getting on board!).

Hi to everyone else.

Diana x

congrats Diana on your 12th day of pregnancy. I can't believe what a good feeling I have about 2009. Its almost like I am buzzing with anticipation. I hope the universe doesn't come and slap me with something bad just to prove me wrong. (I'm a real positive thinker aren't I).

I loved your butterfly story. I have heard a few people tell stories of butterflies and I think they have special significance with the spirit world so I'm sure your intuition is right.

Tildy: how exciting having a big slooshy belly like that. Shame about the sinuses still bugging you. I do actually remember when I was PG with Ethan that I had a blocked nose all the time, I think I read somewhere that it is something to do with all the extra blood flow and fluids etc. Probably won't be going anywhere anytime soon. At least it is all for a good cause!!

Hi lovely ladies :)
Sorry for a short message - my net here at the hospital is sooo incredibly slow that I can half complete a crossword just trying to log in!

Lan - sorry to read that AF showed for you. Stupid cow!

Glad to hear everyone else is doing well and I hope those of you TTC have some luck to start the year. I remember TTC again after Luke and our m/c and it was a horrible time.

Nothing new to report from me - hospital food is gross now and I am sooo over it! Mum is making me some dinner tonight though so that will be a nice break. My next u/s is on Wed afternoon so my fate for the near future will be decided then. The nurses told me to be prepared for the move to Westmead as they havent seen anyone go home from here with my situation but maybe my cervix will defy all odds and grow to some phenomenal length! Ah well I can dream...:p
Either way we are less than 2 days away from our first goal of 24 weeks so that is a great thing. It is a real struggle trying to keep up the positivity sometimes but I am trying.

Take care everyone and sorry for the lack of personals x

Hey Jo, glad to hear you are finding ways to get through your bedrest. I have everything crossed for you and your little girl. Only 2 days away from 24 weeks is at least something positive to focus on and as much as hospital must totally suck for you it is obviously the best place for you and your little girl to be.

I was born in Westmead hospital I think!! There must be something in that:)

Take care of yourself.

Paula
xox

Hi Ladies,
I'm sorry for the lack of personals. I have been having a difficult week. Monday is the ultrasound that I have been worried about for 4 months now. I just can't seem to stay positive. I feel our little man wiggle and kick everyday now. Today was a quiet day, only a few here and there. Quiet days make me think that there is something wrong. I keep thinking about how quiet Shelby got her last few weeks. I can't imagine having to go through another loss. I'm not too sure how I am going to hold it together in the waiting room at the doctor's office. I guess I just need a few hugs to help me get through the next couple of days. :hug:

Sending you a massive hug Laney!!! :hug:
Sounds like we have a big week for u/s this week - you, me, Rozzie and Helen I think?

Oh and little Lily that is due 10 May - that is my birthday and also falls on Mothers Day this year...good sign I think! x

Huge week for U/S's!!! Laney - I am sending you the biggest hug I could possibly imagine your way, I hate scans on Mondays & Fridays, the weekend waiting is torture on top of everything else:comfort:. Good luck to all of us having one next week and big belly rubs for all the other preg ladies and babydust to all our TTCer's!

Laney, for the lack of anything useful to say to you, may I offer you three squishy hugs :comfort: :comfort: :comfort:

Although nothing but a good scan will make you feel better, I guess logically we can say that every pregnancy is different and there's no reason for you to receive anything but good news on Monday. Shelby and Parker, hug your mummy tight and tell your little brother to kick up a storm for mummy's sake!

Paula, have you only started charting this month? Usually FF lets you display 2 or 3 charts but I can only see your current one. I love your positive feeling, please keep it up so I can ride on your coat tail :-)

Hi Diana! CD12, I hope you're putting in some good work with DH :-) It's sadly beautiful that Sebastian was buried with his grandma. I'm glad he came and visited you when you needed him.

Tildy you've got a lot of self-control waiting until Kebab's birth to find out the gender. I think that's really lovely. I have no such control. After you clear out his/her room, maybe you can put something on layby as a next step. I'm really looking forward to you and Rozzie getting over the 30wk mark. Then it's countdown time!

Jo (Luke's mum), I hope your cervix amazes everyone next week with its stunning lengthening too. Where are you at the moment (since you mentioned moving to Westmead)? Diana and I are going to deliver there! What's your mum making for your dinner :-)

Helen, 18wks! Yay! Remember I'm betting a girl for you.

Lan: I just figured out how to add 2 charts but thats all it will let me. I put my last 2 full cycles which were the confusing ones... 2316aa Ovulation Charts

Laney: you poor love, I agree with Lan, I'm on a wave of positivity at the moment so I will send some your way. What a week next week for so many of us!

oooo Paula, you are a hard nut to crack! I would say, uhmm 'In my proffessional opinion!' 1/11/08 ovulation at day 14, but on 29/11/08 possibly day 15 or 16, that's the hard one. But in saying it's hard, bear in mind a normal luteal phase ( after ov) is usually 12 -16days in length, so if you count back from the start of your period it gives you roughly the 14 day mark which is your (2nd) temp rise. There is a definite rise on both charts which I think is the latter date, even if your cm doesn't really correspond with the rise, it's doesn't always. I would never have much and if I did it was never the right time! Were you taking the prog supp in the 29/11 chart? I ask because your temp dropped short before your period came, will be interesting to see what happens this cycle!!! Those temps should sky rocket and not land for i'd say 9months??? I hope I made some sort of sense in all that rambling...

Hi Everybody hope everyone had a good new year and christmas
been offline for a few weeks so im just starting to catch up on all the info and celebrations and dissapointments that have happened in the last few weeks. "sorry lan" things will come when its ready.
anyway we have finished moving now we are starting the renovating really slowly. been a intesting experience i was itching to get my net conected though was having withdrawals.
anyway we had our big ultrasound on the 15th dec and we are having a girl by the looks of things. :dance:
anyway im going to light a candle for my angel today its his 2nd angelversary today we went and got a little elkhorn today to attach to the house just for him.
hope everyone is doing well and surley ill hear of more BFP'S very soon , you go girls 2009 is a good year:pray:
sending you lots of sticky vibes :pink-babydust::bluedust:

love to all,
Cindee....;)

I couldn't resist and have to give my thoughts on your ff chart Paula - I love trying to interpret them!
In my opinion...day 16 for the confusing one and day 15 for the other one. And I am also agreeing with Helen on the LP length so it looks about right when you go with that theory :) Hope that helps!

Hammi - I am at the Hills Private for now which is nice but they don't deliver before 33 weeks, hence the move to Westmead if need be. And Mum made me fettucine boscaiola (no idea how to spell that) and some chicken. Hmmm, it was good especially when one of the "appetising" alternatives from the hospital menu I had to choose from was "turkey and pickled pear salad". YUCK YUCK YUCK

Laney, I meant to say earlier that I am thinking of you for Monday and really hoping you get good news. I don't really know your story but is it placenta flow/IUGR issues they are specifically looking for or something else?

Time for some sleep I think. Pity the internet runs so much better the later it gets!

Cindee: yay a little girl. how exciting and how wonderful you got a great result at your scan. I am so excited for you. Our first of many pieces of good news for 2009. What a way to start the year. Do you have names picked out yet or is it a secret :)

Thanks guys on the readings. Your interpretations actually correspond with mine. It was just FF that was making me think for some reason that ovulation was earlier. I am a shocker tracking my CM anyway Helen so it may very well correspond and I have just not recorded it.

I should have mentioned that on the 1/11 cycle I stopped taking my thyroid meds on CD21 and was using the progesterone cream since about CD11 which was early but my GP wanted me to get a bit of a head start for that cycle. I now only start using around CD16. As soon as I stopped taking the thyroid was when my temp dropped. That was the week I thought I was going to die and was totally freaked out and paranoid. I still cannot believe how much better I feel having stopped taking it and using only the prog cream. THank God for Dr Google or I may have been admitted to a psych ward by now.

Ok so if ovulation is later for me then DH and I need to repeat out ttc plan in about another week! He will be so impressed :) the most action he has had in month!!

Thanks again girls. What a wonderful help this group is and lets hope that I do get that looooooong temp spike Helen. I've never really looked into what happens to your temp when you get a BFP. Does it stay up after ovulation and not come down? I guess I should just keep taking the prog cream as well until testing day and if I get a BFN then stop it. I hadn't really thought that far ahead?? Usually I stop using the cream on CD26, but don't want to do that if I'm PG do I?

Take care everyone xox

Yep Paula your temp will stay high once you are pregnant, and I would say yes to keeping up the prog cream when you get your BFP, but check with your Dr. Keep up the bedroom activity, you guys TTC will have to carry us that aren't getting any!

hi girls hope you all had a wonderful chrissy and new years. Was a very emotional one for us this year but we did get chloe's twinkle toes back they are absolutely beautiful. well i'm still waiting for my first af after the cs.I have never wanted it to come so badly i think back to before i was utd and i wished for all my power for her to never come and now i can't wait so that we can officially start ttc again. i will keep poping in and chating with you girls this month is going to be a bit of a rollercoaster i think as my dd looms closer it is also the day after my dh birthday so will just go with the flow and see how it all ends up.

Oh Laney, I am sending you the BIGGEST :hug::comfort: I can muster. Look forward to the fabulous news I am certain you will get.

Hey Jo, how nice of your mum to bring some yummy food for you. That hospital food sounds sooo gross. Can't wait to hear how the u/s goes on Wed, I've got everything crossed for you. I really hope you get to go home but if you have to move to Westmead, it will all be worth it when you get to take your baby girl home.

Lan, putting in some work with DH but I ovulate really late on my own (normally between days 19-22 without the help of meds) so I think you and David will catch up -which means we will be due on the same date to labour together!:D

Paula, sorry I can't be of any help but glad there are some FF experts in here in case I decide to chart!

Hi Dee, nice to hear from you. I really hope AF shows up soon so you can start your new journey. Best of luck.

Hi Cindee, welcome back! A little girl, how beautiful.

Best of luck to all the ladies going for u/s this week. Looking forward to hearing great news.

Lots of love and hugs to everyone.

Hi Cindee, glad to see you back. I was actually thinking of you yesterday and wondering how you are going. Congrats on having a little girl. So now we have:
Rozzie - boy
Tildy - surprise
Sue - girl
Jo - girl
Laney - boy
Helen - I'm betting girl

Have I missed anyone? Oh this is so exciting!

I wonder how TM is going? We've not heard from her since before Christmas. Are you lurking TM? Thinking of you and hoping that you will soon be hopping on the TTC wagon again.

Dee, I was exactly the same in desperately wanting that first AF back. Mind you, it'll smack you like a freight train when it does because nothing says "not pregnant" like AF. But we'll be here for you.

Paula, I always get a fake spike around CD10 too. And that's when the CM usually starts. Ooooooh, you and Diana and I are so close.

Did I mention that my boobs are still sore? Why are they sore? Is it just insult to injury?

Boo hiss, Monday tomorrow.

hey girls!
firstly - a huge sorry for going MIA!
I had a horrible december and if i thought i felt bad after losing Madison in AUG, my feelings were amplified after jacks Ist angelversary on the 30/11 and then her EDD on the 9th. I seriously thought my broken heart was going to fall right out of my chest. And i cried like i have never before -i thought i was losing my mind. And i am serious when i say that, i got into the darkest place i have ever been. I did'nt want to come on here because i was so negative about EVERYTHING and did'nt want to put that in here, esp as its not who i normally am and i did'nt feel any of you deserved that. And then i could'nt stop thinking about how this was the 2nd christmas in a row to not be home with a new baby and that made the lead into christmas even more traumatic for me. Then the thoughts start about the ultrasounds and how can she have been so on track at the 17 weeks one and it go downhill at the 19 week and then 22 week one. You guys know the thoughts...they just would'nt stop. So no TTC in Dec, i could'nt cope with the thought of even being preg last month and what that would mean we have to go through again. So of course when AF came 2 days ago, it still upset me that Af was here! See my irrational train of thoughts?!? So i was glad to get away for christmas, i had the Kylie concert the night before i left and was so happy to go have a girly night out and not have to worry about anything so i had a ball. Cut to christmas day and i was back to hiding in the toilet and having secret tearys throughout the day. My brother and girlfriend who are preg and due Aust Day were there christmas day and i was ok with seeing her huge belly as this is my brothers first baby and i am excited for him but then she started the sneaking out to have ciggies where my Grandma could'nt see (Brother and his girlfriend are both smokers) and i felt even more emotional and completely sick to the stomach. here she was 36 weeks breathing smoke right onto her babys body and i was so insulted. I do all the right things and still can't have another baby for "unknown reasons" and she is already hurting the one they have!!!! DH knew something was wrong and at at lunch put his hand on my leg and whispered was i ok and i burst into tears in front of everyone. Worse i had not internet no mob reception, nothing!
So now, DH is 50/50 about TTC again and what the future holds for us. i said yesterday it is now or never although never trying again is'nt an option for me i think i was trying some subtle pressure. The DS was talking to me about my friends baby who he could see a photo of on facebook and asked if her baby was dead too and i had to tell him not all babys die and he said well if you has eaten this and done this and drank this you could have a baby too and i expalined i did all the right things but i could'nt help our babys. i was getting upset and asked him to talk to his dad about it so then the next day DH tells me that Ds went up and said he needed to stop drinking alcohol and he was too fat (DH has a belly on him) and that was making our babies die. So i am not sure what is going throught his little mind to be thinking things like that...
As for you guys -ther are a few new to me who i will have to get to know so i am sorry this is your intro to me!!!:rolleyes: i really hope you find this site the blessing i have!
I had ALOT to read through and cannot believe how quickly these tickers seemed to have moved! That in itself is really exciting!!!I really hope them moving alot is bringing some renewed hope and comfort to you! Some new babies to this forum are not that far away!
i also read with much interest about the psychic readings. I have a strong belief in them and if you remember the one i see predicted i was preg with Madison and told me to do the test, (so i went home did one and was!), said she could see me surrounded by pink (she was a girl), said i would be due late in the year /early new year (her EDD was 9/12/08), said we would be away for christmas (we ended up away) and in her tarot cards 2 days before THE ultrasound the death card was the first card out of the pack, 2nd was the scales -deciding what to do and 3rd out was a heartbreak card. I am going to hopefully see her again very soon and so will let you know how she goes.
Laney -i am sending you an email!
hope all is ok with you all otherwise! i have alot of time off this month so will be stalking here daily again! :dance:
hope you understand my timeout reasons -was'nt deserting you all! Funny how you guys ask after me and double check on things but a few friends who i needed over christmas just were not there at all. My horoscope said i wuld be cleaning out some friends this year!:o
xxjo

i am so mad!!!!!!! I just had this huge post and it did'nt send and is now lost!:doh::doh:
hi girls!
will write back later as my son wants to play now!!!
xxxjo

ok...so now it rears its head!! have a good one guys!!!

Hi girls

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL :confetti:

I have been away with DP for a few days, we went to Hervey Bay. It was nice to get away from the Gold Coast for a few days.

I will have to catch up on everyone's news as I have only just got back and wanted to wish everyone for 2009. I know it has to be a great year for all of us.

I also wanted to share some news with you all. DP and I got engaged! So now I can call him DF!!!! :loveshower: Now I know 2009 is going to be a wonderful year.

I will read all the news I have missed and get back to you all later. Hope you are all having a wonderful day!!

Theresa xxxx

Congratulations Theresa! Dum dum di dum. Have you set a date yet? 2009 will be a good year. It has to be and you've given us our first piece of good news for the year.

Hi Jo, so glad you're back. Totally get what you were feeling and what you're going through. It's OK to come here and be negative and throw a tanty - it's theraputic. That's so sad what Josh was asking. He's trying to fix things so he doesn't have anymore angel siblings. If only it was as simply as not eating something. I believe you will have your third earth child this year Jo, at the same time as me, and Paula and Diana :-)

Today is the big day for you isn't it, Laney? I'm going to think really hard all day about your ultrasound image and how it'll show a baby a week ahead of his dates. Then tomorrow you can post that image for me to look at. Holding hands with you!

Hi to everyone else. Monday of a full week is a struggle!

Diana, whereabouts do you work? I'm in the city, near Wynard Station.

CONGRATULATIONS THERESA! :happyforyou: It certainly is shaping up to be a wonderful year. Lets keep the good vibes going!

Jo, glad you are back and so sorry you have been feeling so down. It is a very hard time of year and my heart goes out to you. Don't ever feel you can't come on here and throw tanties, we all do it. Sending you big hugs.

Laney, I have everything crossed for you today.

Lan, I work out at Homebush so nowhere near you unfortunately. Are you keen to catch up on a Saturday or one evening after work? I'm pretty flexible. I'll PM you.

Back at work today but would much rather be bumming on a beach...

Hello to everyone else x

Hello girls,

Well I am backk to work today - bugger!!! and there is a lot of work, but I am not going to stress myself out about it....

Well I felt my first movement from the outside yesterday and even DH got to feel her once... so I was very excited about that, though last night I had the worst diahorea which had me in absolute cramping (which still scares me), but feeling better today and eating and drinking lots.

Cindee - Yeah for a girl... how exciting.

MrsRobbo - I agree with the other girls on your chart, though hopefully the double spikes will pitter since you have settled with your medication and you can get a definately result. I love looking at Ovulation Charts - bit nerdy huh. and yes the temperature definately stays us if you are pregnant.

Helen - Big hello to you.

Dee81 - Sorry you had an emotion time, it is very understandable. Hoping AF arrives for you soon.

Laney - :hug: fo ryou - hoping everything goes well in your U/s today.

Jo-Lukes Mum - Hello to you in hospital. Thank god for mums huh and brining you in some yummy food. How is things in there??? Sorry if I missed your post, but why are you in hospital??

dd0207 - Big hello to you also.

Lan - Yep the boobs are sore to keep you thinking!!! frustrating isnt it.

Jo76 - Oh Jo, it is so good to hear from you. Though don't go MIA again!!!! We are all here for you and you dont need to go away for our sake, we want to help you through it. MMMMMMMMM SIL Smoking - I can understand how you feel about that one. It seems the people who do the wrong thing, seem to pop children out and the ones who do everything right, have troubles. Why is that so!!! Now you got me ranting and I can feel how you would have felt on the day. I am so sorry sweetheart.

Theresa - Congratulations on your engagement. You must be very excited and it is going to be a fantastic 2009 year for you. Any plans on when you are going to get married???

xxx Sue xxx

Hi
Just checking in for some hopefully good news from Laney :pray:
I made it to my first goal today...24 weeks! YAY :D
Sorry sorry, I know I am sooo bad at personals - it is just so hard to type propped up in bed - am sending you all big hello's!
Oh and Syran, I am in hospital due to my cervix shortening - u/s on Wed to see what is going on now. Have been here now for 3 weeks. Ugh.
Take care everyone x

Congratulations Theresa!
Welcome back Jo, big hugs.
Jo - Great news on reaching such an important milestone and here's to scan that says, your cervix has gained length!
Laney - I hope all is going well.

Hi to all, I have had a big day and feel a little achey in the tummy, I soooo can't wait to have that scan in the morning, I feel like I am going round the twist!

Helen - good luck for your scan tomorrow. Look forward to hearing your great news.

Jo - Lukes Mum - Good luck for your scan on Wed. So hoping it has lengthened and then does that mean you can go home???


xxx Sue xxx

My goodness, I have to post more often, so much to comment/catch up on...

Jo, so glad to hear from you, though I'm sorry you had such a painful December :( If you read back you find most of us found Christmas really difficult so you would not have brought us down. I think you were really brave to go to a family Christmas, I couldn't manage it. Seeing your brother's partner smoking would have made me so upset as well. On some of the birth forums I see posts by women complaining about gaining weight, about wanting to smoke, about wanting a C-section because they're worried about the cosmetics of their private parts, and other silly things and I feel like saying NONE OF THAT MATTERS!!! You are so lucky, TRUST ME!! but of course I don't. I hope you and DH come to an agreement soon as to what feels right for you both.

Lan, I don't know for sure it's a boy yet... I had a feeling, which I had first time that it was a boy but I've also had girl feelings too!!! so we'll see. This was a while ago but you mentioned wanting to follow the natural pregnancy book which was against ultrasounds. Why is it anti-US? is it because it says they're damaging or because they lead to intervention or other stuff? I'm all for natural pregnancies with minimal intervention, even homebirth, but only for low-risk, low-stress pregnancies. I agree that nature will take its course but there's no point pretending that things don't go wrong occasionally, and medicine is a life-saver then. If having scans stops you getting too stressed then that is the best thing for you. I have a scan every 4-6 weeks and I find it's a good compromise for me.

Theresa, congrats on the engagement!!! do you have an idea when it will be, will it be small or grand?

Cindee, welcome back and congrats on a little girl!

Dee, hope AF comes swiftly for you- I was exactly the same, could not wait to start trying again. Hopefully it happens quickly for you.

Paula, I charted and it was a little unsure of which day I O'd, I found that using OPKs as well made a huge difference as I could correlate results with the chart. They're not for everyone but I found them useful. Also, your temp is meant to remain high afterwards but it can dip a but for a week or so after (did for me and I think maybe a couple of others?).

Laney, I'm sure you got good news today, I'm a bit late in wishing you luck!! I have great faith in clexane for your situation, stay on it and bub will be fine!!!

As for me, back at work today unfortunately. This morning had a weird moment, thought I hadn't felt bub move in a while and was worried, playing out the scenario in my mind and I was surprised at how practical and resigned I was, I was almost like 'well I've done this before so...' very odd. Other times in the middle of the night thinking about it makes me cry but today was different. Anyway baby started moving again so all is well. Looking forward to my scan on Wednesday for some reassurance.

Big hugs to all ladies!!

Love Rozzie

Thank you for all your well wishes! I have been floating on cloud nine all day :p

It was not the most romantic proposal but it was unique!!!! DF pulled out a ring box and said: "Put it on whichever finger it fits." So I put it on my ring finger and said It fits!Then DF said "I guess that means we are engaged" I then burst out laughing as it was all so funny and he was so nervous. It was adorable. We have not set a date yet and we are in no hurry - it is just so nice to have that additional commitment.

Rozzie - Big :hug: I know all will be well and you will have a beautiful bub to love and cherish! The scan will be awesome - to see your little one - how wonderful!

AngelLukesmum & hgirs - Good luck with your scan :crossfingers:

Jo76 - Sorry AF showed up. :comfort:

To everyone else - I am sending positive vibes and best wishes to each and everyone of you. You have all been so helpful and supportive to me and I want to thank you, it helps me continue on my journey!

Theresa xxxxx

Hello Everyone,

Wishing you all a good 2009! I am sure most of us are glad Christmas is over.

DH & I had a blood test before Christmas, the geneticists are looking for a rare gene that we may carry that caused Jasmine's mosacism, but they say they don't expect to find it at all, it is just covering all bases for reassurance. We feel quite confident to stay TTC again, so starting this month!

Theresa, congratulations on your engagement :dance: that is lovely news, what a great start to 2009 for you! I hope you also get a BFP soon to really top it off.

Cindee, congrats on a girl, I am glad to hear that you and bub are doing well.

Dee, I'm with Rozzie, I couldn't wait to start TTC again as well. I am sure AF will come soon. Mine returned after 4-wks.

Rozzie, glad that bubs moved for you today. I am sure it must be scary when he goes all quiet on you. I am sure he is just doing lots of sleeping, all that growing must be tiring.

Jo, hope you are going ok in hospital and can come home soon. Well done on making it to your first goal, great news :clap:

Jo76, sorry to hear you had such a rough time this Christmas, the smoking thing would have upset me as well. I was super careful when pg with Jasmine & couldn't believe things went so wrong when other people can be so 'casual'.

Paula, I have no idea about charting, but I bought a thermomoter today, so will start to try and figure out how it all works. I read that you don't actually know that you have O'ed until it has happened with temping, is that right? and that the best time to ttc is to DTD from 4 days before O'ing. Anyway, I will still use Maybe Baby as well, as I find that helpful as my cycle is thankfully quite regular.

All the best to those having scans around now. I have my fingers crossed for you that everything will be fine. :pray:

Also, to all the TTC'ers, heres to a happy & successful 2009 for us. :D

Hello to everyone I have missed.

Bye for now

Hi Girls... my computer did the not letting me know thing again... bugger!

Laney: where are you, how did today go, I think it was today... I get confused with all these scans this week.

Theresa: wooooohooooooooo on the engagement. I love being married, I was with DH for 9yrs beforehand and didn't think it would change anything but it so did. Enjoy this time, it is so exciting.

Jo: How lovely to have you back. We have all been missing you and sending positive vibes your way. We can all sympathise with you re the xmas thing, but sounds like you did it exceptionally tough. I had a similar line of thought as DH and I started TTC this week. This is the 3rd Jan in a row we have ttc'd, fallen PG and then followed it up with a xmas empty handed. I am trying to be positive though and putting it out there that we will be 3rd time lucky. Hopefully you will be too, if that is what you and DH decide.

Sue: how exciting, 1st outside movement. DH must have been so excited.

Jo (luke's mum): Yay for 24 weeks. What an achievment. Lets hope Wednesday brings more good news for you!

Helen: are you scanning tomorrow... i think so... i'm thinking that is going to be more good news for me to come home to after work! Good luck!!

Rozzie: I'm glad you got that movement to reassure you and am also glad you have a scan on wed. What a huge week it is in here! BTW what are OPK's, I've never really charted for ttc before. DH and I are pretty lucky and don't seem to have a problem with that part All this is pretty new to me.

Lan: are you and DH back on the wagon yet??

Gotta run girls, xox

Hey Megan, our posts crossed over. Good luck with the thermometer, it is a bit addictive! Glad you will be ttcing with us and hope we can all get some BFP's in the next few weeks. How exciting!!

Good morning lovely mammas.

First of all, good luck today Helen for your scan. I'm sure bub will be bouncing away at the back of your belly and you'll see why you haven't felt much movement.

Laney, where are you? Get on and tell us the good news. I thought of your little boy before I drifted off to sleep last night and visualised hard (I heard that works!) that he is big and bouncy and healthy.

Today is CD6 (the only benefit of getting AF on new year day is that I always know what cycle day I'm on just by looking at the date!) so I think this weekend will be action time. You too Paula?

OPK's are ovulation prediction kits. They look like pregnancy tests but they tell you have you're ovulating. Never worked for me. I have a Maybe Baby which seems kind of temperamental but fun to look at when it ferns.

Welcome back Megan. Sooooo, you're TTC-ing this month too? Fantastic. The more of us the better! When do you get the results from the blood test?

Rozzie and Tildy, when will you go on maternity leave? In March? That's no long you know!

Rozzie, the book I was reading said that ultrasounds can have an adverse effect on babies due to the way they work i.e. bounce sound waves off the baby to create the image we see. I have heard that some babies try to get away from the probe too. I want to be all mother earthy but I think I won't be able to restrain myself from getting scans, especially in the scary second trimester.

Jo (Luke's mum), congrats on making 24wks. Good luck for the prognosis tomorrow. Grow cervix!

Diana, I live in Homebush!

Lan, I live in Homebush! I can't believe how close we are. Wonder if we have seen each other, or even know each other!! Freaky... I have PM'd you.

Laney, post!

Hi Megan, oh how exciting! Here's hoping January is our month. We can all start our own mother's group! All the best for the test results.

Helen, best of luck with the scan today. Can't wait to hear from you.

Jo, I am praying so much for a perfect scan tomorrow. I am so happy you have reached your 24 week milestone. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside :D

Rozzie, yay for bubs moving and reassuring you. Best of luck with your scan too.

Sue, I am so excited for you and DH.

Theresa, the proposal sounds so very sweet and you actually sound so much better. So happy DP (now DF) is making an honest woman of you and given you a helping hand to smile again after so much pain lately.

Paula & Lan, I'm 15 days pregnant today! :lol: Actually, I'm not sure when I am going to ovulate so DH and are BD ourselves silly just to be sure :redface: I have tried OPKs and just can't do it. It stresses me so much my hands shake like crazy that I barely get any wee on the stick!! (I think it's because it is so similar to a pg test that I freak out).

Good morning to everyone else and hope you all have a lovely day. :grouphug:

hey guys!
i have a splitting headache from too many hours swimming in the pool but had to check in for any news from laney? have been thinking of you!
hgirs -good luck with your ultrasound tomorrow!!

xxjo

Well I feel exhausted! Corey had a bad night last night, topped off with me just not being able to sleep (I wonder why?). Scan was at 9am this morning, which I am happy to say was all good and cervix long and closed, longer than it was at this time with Cooper, YAY! Sent DH off to work and I waited for my OB appt at 11.30......Well got in to see him at 2pm!!! Not very happy, so then I went across the road for some lunch, (couldn't make it home without it) caught the bus at 3.09, home at 3.30 in here to update you all and see if Laney had posted ( I hope you are OK) now I have to run back out the door and pick Corey up from daycare. I just want to crawl into a ball and have a sleep. After having the scan my tentions eased heaps so I am being brave and going with the OB on booking another one in 4 weeks, I bet I'll get 2 weeks down the road and be panicking! Thank you everyone for your well wishes and I hope all the scans over the next few days make you all feel as reassured as I do (for now anyway!)