Trying to Conceive after Still Birth/Recurrent Miscarriage/Late Loss ~ February 2009

[Tildy]

Laney -- please definitely take it easy and take care of yourself. We don't mind you not writing long posts and personals if you need to be lying down! Keep us updated if you can, but most importantly take care of you and bubs. I'll be thinking of you.

[NaeNae]

gosh Laney I hope you are ok. Just wondering if you were a candidate for a suture given your history? Would love to hear how the pregnancy belt helps, How long are you/have you been on bed rest?
A MW told me to stay on an angle with my pelvis tilted up it takes the downward pressure off - the tough was if gravity helps bubs out it can help keep them in - just a thought for you is all.

What have they suggested for you?

Love and hold tight vibes for you, tell your bub to behave and to stay in his womb until you say he can come out.

Nae x

[helle]

Laney, I hope everything will be ok. Ge plenty of rest, if you need to post make sure it's coming from the flat of your back! I agree with NaeNae, if gravity can help get a bub out it won't hurt to try it to keep them in!

AFM, I have a question... When you girls are on your TWW, do you act as though you are pg? Eg, no lifting heaving things, no drinking, no soft cheeses, ham etc etc? I get frustrated at work because ATM we're getting new furniture in which needs putting together, and when I'm on a TWW I don't really like doing it, but I feel stupid saying I don't want to lift heavy things just "incase" I'm pg...
Weird bleeding is still going, it's pinker now but has redder stringy bits in it (sorry for TMI) although now it looks like it has EWCM mixed in with it as well... I have no idea what my body is doing to me

Laney, I'm sending you some extra strong cervix vibes to keep your little bubba in

DD & Dee, Sending you guy sticky vibes as well! xx

[Tildy]

I don't know what CD you're on, Teagz, but when I had implantation bleeding I also thought it was too much to be implantation bleeding. Even though it came 4 or so days before AF was due, so I had no idea what else it could be. But it lasted 3 days for me and was much as you describe it -- EW mucusy tinged with quite a bit of blood, often pink but with bright red strings. Several of those details fly in the face of what all the Web pages say implantation bleeding should look like -- they all say brown spotting for 1 day only.

I always avoided alcohol for the most part during the 2WW, even though they say that that isn't even that important. The baby's circulatory system doesn't merge up with yours until late enough that even in super careful "not a single drop of alcohol when you're pregnant!" Sweden the docs say that alcohol before getting a BFP is not a problem. I imagine the same goes for heavy lifting and such. But if you feel uncomfortable about the lifting at work and are a good white liar, I might suggest an elbow injury?

[helle]

ROLF, nope, not a good white liar! Well, at least I know I'm not going to do any damage.
And I'm only CD17, it seems a little early to me for it to be implantation? I guess I'm just going to have to wait it out and see what happens.

ETA, Sorry... CD18 today! but the bleeding started yesterday arvo.

[NaeNae]

Teagz - what about sore knees or back - hey I heard you strained your back getting out of bed well its happened to me. CD17 ? thats only half way or just over half way into your cycle?? or do I have it wrong?
About a week ago after DTD I noticed trace amounts of blood when I wiped (sorry TMI) I went back and told DH that I was bound to get AF within a few days and nothing has happened so far. Hell I don't even kown what this cycle is doing or where I am at

If your only cd17 I would say thats possibly too early for implantation bleeding as you would have only ovulated 3 days ago roughly maybe less?
But who knows I hope you are UTD again

[helle]

yeah, well I'm pretty sure I ovulated on day 12, well that was a day I had alot of CM at least. But I think it is to early as well.

Hopefully you don't get AF!! Sometimes ignorance is bliss isn't it? My last 2 cycles I have counted to the day and they have been perfect and now this has thrown me completely out of whack! (I guess it was asking a bit to much for my cycle to go back to normal so quickly) I don't know whether to start counting it as an AF, or ignore it or what to do! Gosh!

[dd0207]

Hi Noni, I am sorry you have had to find yourself here but welcome to our thread and I hope you find lots of comfort and support amongst us. Not knowing what caused your precious angel to pass would be so hard so I hope you can get the answers you seek when you visit the dr. You will have many rough days hun, even when you think you're ok, so take the time to grieve, cry and vent all you need in here. I hope your time with us is short and you get your BFP very soon.

Dee, how are you sweets? Praying with all my heart for you x

Teagz, hmmm reading your first post about the bleeding I thought it could have been implantation but then realizing you are only 3DPO I'd say it is too soon. Not sure hun - may warrant another visit to the dr if it doesn't stop.

Tildy, how are you feeling now? Has your pain subsided a little?

Laney, everything is crossed for you and rest as much as you can x

Nae, could it be?????

Beata, hope you're enjoying your time away with DF and taking care of you.

Lan, how are you temps behaving? February. Together.

Theresa, glad you're doing well sweets. NT scan come up soon, best of luck!

Nothing really to report at my end. In the dreaded 2WW and I must say this is the hardest part. I think it's because everything is out of my control now, nothing I can do, no more medical intervention - it's all up to the Gods. I won't even be able to use symptoms as a sign as I'm on 400mg of progesterone pesseries a day which gives all the pg symptoms imagineable! How am I going to cope until my pg bt next Friday

Hi pregnant mammas and a huge hug to everyone!

[NaeNae]

Teagz - try not to think about it - it might be nothing but maybe book an appointment with your Dr just in case something isn't right.

Nothing really to report at my end. In the dreaded 2WW and I must say this is the hardest part. I think it's because everything is out of my control now, nothing I can do, no more medical intervention - it's all up to the Gods. I won't even be able to use symptoms as a sign as I'm on 400mg of progesterone pesseries a day which gives all the pg symptoms imagineable! How am I going to cope until my pg bt next Friday

You poor thing the TWW is hard enough let alone using progesterone pesseries. Those things feel weird as they dissolve don't they. I guess the best thing you can do is trying not to think about it - easier said then done though best of luck

Me - nahh I don't think so, I think my body is just out of whack from my m/c my first one was all over the shop and this was so easy in comparison I just don't know what to expect. When I finally passed everything with my first (7 weeks of on and off bleeding) 3 weeks later AF came.

Lets try to work it out shall we??

the first day I started to m/c was 28th Jan, I bled for 9 days then had 2 days of "coming down" before stopping on the 8th. I haven't been charting for O. I have regular 28 day cycles normally SO taking it from the first day of my m/c (which started when AF was due) I am up to CD 29?? I keep getting the feeling like AF is coming - mild cramping on the right side but nothing yet. I don't know what I am looking for when it comes to mucus We have been dtd just when the mood takes us.

Any guesses?

[helle]

NaeNae, it's so tricky isn't it. You get pains when AF is ariving but then you get the pain when your uterus starts stretching to fit in bubs. You can't win! I really really hope with every little peice of my heart you are UTD. You just never know

[dee81]

hi girls you have all been so busy again. also welcome Noni, i'm so sorry about your little angel but the you can take comfort that the girls in here are absolutely wonderful.
well the time is ticking by so slow i'm with diana this tww is a killer, i'm also on pesseries i'm on both the wax dissolve ones and the cream sorry have forgot their names am also taking provera everyday and have been sick the last two mornings i think its just a combination of all the drugs kicking in. because i got pregnant last time i am looking at every symptom thinking is this the same as last or not it is doing my head in how am i gunna be by the end. . Teagz i'm so sorry that your body is mucking you around hope you are feeling better, i agree with the girls fake an injury. hello to all you pregnant mumma's out their and all those other wonderful ladies as well.

[Rozzie27]

Hi ladies,

I've been quiet but I do lurk.

Laney, I'm so sorry to hear of your issues hope things get back on track for you soon. Take it easy and pamper yourself.

Noni, welcome to the thread, I'm sure you'll find the women here wonderfully supportive. We lost our son at 22 weeks for no apparent reason also, it's horrible but know that 'unexplained' is the most common 'cause' of stillbirth. It's scary but it very rarely repeats in the same woman.

Nae, glad to find someone else who's into modern cloth nappies!! I'm totally addicted, I have 16 in various brands and plan to try them to see which ones I want. I have a couple of bumgenius. I have spent so much now that we're locked in now, can't justify that much money then use disposables!!! When you have you bub they'll be there and look very cute

As for me, we had our last scan yesterday, all looking good, looking at booking in for the Caesar in about 4 weeks.

Stay well ladies, hoping this month is all your months and the embies are super sticky!!!

Love Rozzie

[Miss.B]

Hi lovelies,

Oh wow, it has been busy in here!

Firstly, welcome Noni and I'm very sorry for your loss. I've lost my son Joshua at 20 weeks, because I had a big fibroid that put too much pressure on my uterus. I've now had the fibroid removed and will do a frozen embryo transfer in a couple of months hopefully. I have Josh's ashes at home too, and I have a little corner for him with all his little bits and pieces. On his due date on 12/2 I bought him a cute blue bunny rabbit holding a blue bunny rug. I just couldn't resist it it's so cute!! Good luck on your app. in March, I hope your doctors can answer all of your questions.
Please feel free to talk whenever you feel the need to, we are all here for you. I know you'll find a lot of support here.

Laney, I'm so sorry you've just gone through a major scare. You poor love. By the sounds of it it's because little bub was putting pressure on your cervix, so please put your feet up as much as possible and rest, rest and rest!!!!!! I hope things will work themselves out soon, big hugs hun

Diana, the dreaded 2WW!! They say it's the hardest part of IVF and I can see why!! When I had my 2WW, my DF was in China for work during the second week of waiting, so because I was missing him so much, it took my mind off the actual nervous wait!! When I got my result on the Friday, he still wasn't back so I had to tell him over the phone. I so wished he was here in person.
I so hope and pray your little one is holding on tight, and I pray your wait goes quickly and that you get that beautiful phone call to say 'Congratulations, you're pregnant!!" Always thinking of you hun and always praying hard!!

Dee, I'm glad everything went very smoothly on Tuesday, and I pray that your little emmy sticks too. When do you test hun??? I'm guessing around 10/3?? I pray for a BFP for you too hun, it would be awesome for you and Diana (our IVF ladies) to get a BFP in early March!!

Nae, not sure about your cycle hun, it's hard to tell, especially after your m/c. I think it's best to have regular 'relations' and test only when you have missed your AF. You sound like you are regular like clockwork (lucky you, me too!!!) so things should settle soon for you. Remember, have fun and enjoy each other's company.
The nappies sound so cute, a lot of people are into the cloth ones.....I must investigate this. Would have been a bit sad to get them but at the same time, exciting for the things still to come!!!!! Always praying for a BPF for you too hun, you deserve it so much

Teagz, I think implantation bleed, otherwise what is AF doing so early?????!!!! Like the girls said it could be a bit early for the implantation bleed, but I say, YOU NEVER KNOW!!!!! Praying hard this is it for you and what fabulous 21st present that would be!!!!! No AF damnit!!!

Theresa, there always going to be milestones, hey? I think it's so lovely that you light a candle for Zachary on the 24th of each month....I still light one for Josh every day, I just can't stop doing it. My DF laughed and said we'll go broke soon buying the candles LOL. I think I'm going to light them on special occasions soon...
Good luck with your nuchlan scan hun, i'm so happy little bub is doing great

Rozzie, can't believe you'll be having bub in possibly 4 weeks!!! Wow, where has the time gone?! Countinue to look after yourself and have a lovely relaxing materninty leave...

Lan and Megan, praying for BFPs for both of you girls, hope it's very soon

[helle]

Beata I missed you! How was your mini holiday? As for my weird bleeding... it's stopped! For now anyway... God only knows what's going on in there!

[Miss.B]

Oooooooh, I thought I was only previewing my post, whaaaaaaat!!! I haven't finished yet.....sorry!!!!!

Second part he he

I also wanted to say good luck to Jo76 with your TCC I pray your get your BFP very soon too hun!!!

A big big hello to all out lovely mummas in waiting, hope the time flies for all of you!!!!

AFM, I have my doctor's appointment tomorrow morning. I think he's going to run some blood tests and in his words 'get the ball rolling'. Oh how I want to have my transfer now!! I just can't wait. The overwhelming feeling I have these days to be pregnant again is so big, I just can't wait to be in my 2WW!!!!!!!!!!
The wee trip was really relaxing, but now I'm all stressed as I have to go back to work on Monday. I just haaaaaaate my work, and I often feel stressed there. I was actually thinking of quitting, but I will lose my 12 week paid maternity leave if I leave now and get pregnant soon. Still, I hate it there, it might just tip me ove the edge and I'll quit soon anyway....

Love to all
B xxxxxxxx

[Mummy2Be]

hi ladies, hope you're all good today. i've been having a very thoughtful day. my bbs are sore, i'm ovulating on monday i think and i'm feeling surprisingly nervous! i've been hoping and waiting for this to happen and now i have so many thpughts in my head. like what if it happens again. we changed doctors as the last one said he wouldn't consider us high risk as it happened only once and he can't tell why...so that wasn't very encouraging. are you girls going to have different type of management in anyway? anything you didn't do last time? like i need to find a high risk doctor or something in perth, i don't know...then i read about progesterone suppositries (tmi) helping to stop preterm labour sorry i know i'm just going on and on....i don't know

[Miss.B]

Teagz hun, so glad to be back!!! Hate being away from my computer and you girls, I miss you too much!! I'm praying something magical is happening in there for you, you need the BPF so bad hun!!!! Seriously, what a great 21st present, hey????
Praying with all my might all the time, for all of our loveley girls TTC, we need some BFPs in here!!!!! Pleeeeeeese!!!!!!!!!!

Noni, I think it's important to first talk with the doc and perhaps try and find out why you went into pre term labour. I started having contractions just after my 20 week scan, and it turned out that my fibroid was being starved of oxygen and started irritating the uterus. At least I knew why I lost my son. My FS/OB never thought this would happen, as if he did, he would have removed the offending lump before I got pregnant. I am sticking with my current FS/OB, not sure if I need a high risk doc. Because the fibroid is now gone, there is no reason why I can't carry again.
I'd suggest to really talk all your concerns through with your doctor, and if he/she can't give you any decent answers, please get a second opinion. Do you think you might have a weak cervix perhaps? Have you discussed it with your doc? This might very well not be the reason, but it's worth looking into. Perhaps the progesterone is the answer.... I think you need to ask a lot of questions and hopefully get some answers.
I would also suggest to read a book on miscarriage as I read a few and I found a lot of interesting information there. I ended up asking heaps of questions when I visited my doc after Joshua was born, and he was surprised on my level of knowledge! I think being well informed is the basis to start asking the right questions, and hopefully getting to the source of the problem!

B xxxxxxxx

[Mummy2Be]

hi B, thanks for your answer. you gave me somethings to think about. i guess i'm nervous beacuse i have to do doctor huning again etc etc. no they said my cervix was fine, i had no fibroids, i had no contractions until that night we lost him. just bizzare. i have dealt with it though and was just feeling nervous. it's just irritating not knowing why...thanks anyway, you sound like you'll be fine so that's excellent