hi guys!
well, it has been a long few days. Have had a really busy time at at work and i am so tired.
katie - you remind me so much of me when i was pregnant with Josh and Em. I turned our little house upside down and was bent over inside our little cupboards checking everything and cleaning out. I should have been resting but there i was on a mission! Nesting is such a furious thing!!! But awesome!
cindee - so glad your ultrasound went ok!! its such a mini piece of mind and hope it has bought you some comfort!
rozzie - i get what you mean about the counselling. Sometimes you can hit a wall with it and feel as though no matter how many times you speak to them about it it still won't change how you feel. I believe it can help but it does'nt help things for everyone. You can only try as an option. I think it is easy for people to tell us to go to counselling without realising how much more is behind our feelings. While from some people i think it is an extra support offer whereas others in my experience i feel like they are just palming off the support they could give, to someone else to do. As for SIDS - I know bonnie babes have parents as counsellors who have had losses?!?
syran - was hoping you had been able to post so will wait on any news!
hgirs -MS -a good thing remember no matter how bad it makes you feel! Good signs! rest up as much as you can!!! take care!
hammi - i felt very much the same moving to the house we are in now. i should have been making a nursery in this house for Jack but had lost him before we moved in. It still makes me so sad that that room is still so bare as it was the whole reason we moved, to get another bedroom. I am sure Hamish was squeezing his way in between you both!
paula - there is no way i can take time off unfortuneatly!Its just not an option. Unless i quit and unfortuneately for that idea i could'nt stand mopping around thinking i could have been off with a baby instead. Ethan sounds like a sweetheart! They are such beautiful thoughts.
laney -how are you going? hope your ok!!
tildy - any news on your job? i agree on your thoughts on telling people also. Its a catch 22 for us though -its just another thing we have to worry about the reactions for and then deal with our own feelings after! grrr! I had a reg customer who does know about both babies, ask me if i was pregnant yet, today. She has been very sympathetic in the right way until then! i don't think people understand either how hard it is to have that dream of a baby and then actually do the ttc part after!!!
i hope i have'nt missed anyone! we have all been such busy writers lately! which is great!!!
take care! Gotta keep planning joshs party that will be held 3 weeks AFTER his birthday cos he has a useless mum!
x jo
I ate too much for lunch and now my tummy really hurts. Heee.
Paula, I think we'll end up getting pregnant at the same time if I'm lucky. It took us about five months to get pregnant the first time but that ended in a miscarriage, then Hamish was a happy little accident. Mind you, I didn't pay attention to ovulation, CM or temps the first time around so maybe we'll get pregnant quicker this time. Fingers cross. I am very excited to think that we'll be TTC-ing this time next cycle.
My pre-conception counselling is on 7 Nov. I've actually no idea what I'll say or do. Hopefully the Obs will have advice for us else it'll be a very quiet counsel! Did you prepare questions or anything when you had yours, Katie?
Cindee, congrats on your scan. Another milestone surpassed! Good on you and your little bub. I'm not surprised you cried. We all seem to take turns crying, and why not, after all we've been through.
Rozzie, I'm sad that you're doing it tough. But I guess your mind and your heart will deal with your emotions when you're ready. A tragedy like what we've all endured really defines your relationships with people, doesn't it? Some people really come through with their support and understanding and some just floor you in their tactlessness and absolute lack of thought. I'm kind of cringing thinking of what some people may say to you when you start wearing your maternity uniform.
What theme are you going with for Josh's birthday, Jo? You did Dora for Em's didn't you? Try to take it easy on yourself, kids find surprisingly simple things entertaining. Don't wear yourself out... I want you to start TTC-ing with Paula and I... after you have your talk with DH.
Helen, yay for M/S. Have you always had M/S with your pregnancies. I'm hoping to be lucky like Katie and get nothing with my next pregnancy. I was so sick with Hamish. I'm usually a food vacumn but I completely stopped eating for about three months. So debilitating!
Helen - Yeah for m/s, it is a good sign. I found I was feeling nausea's when I was tired, if I get plenty of sleep, I am OK. I heard that sucking on fruit tingles works..... Have you booked in for a scan???
Rozzie - I am thinking of you and your family situation. I wish I could wave a wand and fix it all for you. I agree your body will know when it is right and I had counselling after the 3rd m/c and found it really didnt help me either. I think if you found someone who has had a similar experience it could possibly help. By the way, I hope you are right about your feelings on me with the NT Scan. Getting nervous.
Cindee - Congratulations on a good scan..... I know exactly how you feel, my last angel was found out at the 12 week NT Scan and I must admit I am nervous about going on 3/10.
Katie - I think you sound like you are nesting - thats for sure.... he he he. Your house must be looking spotless....
Jo - I can't believe a customer would say that, especially knowing your situation..... How are you feeling about TTC, have you spoken to DH about it???
Lan - Wow not long until pre-conception appointment. I look forward to hearing what the specialist has to say.
Hello to Laney & Paula - hoping you both are doing well.
Well with me, I am just getting nervous about the NT Scan and hoping bubs is still all OK. I am feeling every stretch and cramp and start to worry. Though DH said last night when laying in bed, that my belly has popped even more.
Had a girl at work ask me today about when I was going back to IVF (still havent revealed), because they are all expecting me to go back in Nov. I lied!!! I can't believe I did that as normally I would cave in and tell. But I need to hold this a little longer until after the scan.
DH and I also bought a bassinette!!! It was a tough to do, and I hope that we havent jinxed ourselves.... It was on Ebay and it was such a good buy. Apparently she only used it for her last bubs for around 5 months and there is nothing wrong with it. DH picked it up and it is perfect and so sturdy to ones I have seen in the shops.
Sue - My scan is booked for the 24 nov, but I am hoping the OB I am going to see for a 2nd opinion will do a quick one, that's in a fortnight. Fingers crossed.
How is everyone else doing? I had a shocker this arvo, picked up Corey from Daycare, gave him my keys to unlock the door, he pressed the button twice but I didn't really pay attention. Strapped him in, he threw the keys on the floor on the other side, so I shut the door went around the other side to get the keys and...... The bloody car is locked! I couldn't believe it he must have pressed the open then the shut button! DH was 40min away, so had to ring RACQ to come and get the door open, which took about 15 mins, he was in the car for 25min, thank God I was in the shade and it wasn't a hot day. I feel like such an idiot! Have learnt my lesson.
Just a quick one - in response to Lan about pre-pregnancy counselling.
Basically I had to get all my notes sent over from my previous Ob which included results from the 12 and 14 week scans when Nathaniel was still alive and then the chromosomal results etc. I went through my history with Mark (Ob) - he asked me about family history for both DH and I, the pregnancy itself etc. One thing I really appreciated was that he asked if we had named our baby and then recorded his name - each visit I get an updated medical sheet in case I need to go to hospital etc and I like the fact that Nathaniels' name appears on it. I also had a lot of questions that I had compiled - just little things like questioning the bleeding I had at 13 weeks, the fact that amniotic fluid was low when I had the D&C etc. Mark then went through how we would proceed with him, and he ordered a 1000 more tests to be done and we were booked to see him again in 2 or so weeks to get the results. He had told me to stop TTCing until the results came back but as it turned out I was pregnant already.
We left that appointment feeling really good, and we knew we had done the right thing. We felt like we were giving ourselves the best possible chance with having another baby. If you have any questions I would suggest you write them all done as they pop into your head - I did this for 2 months which was good as I would definitley have forgotten half of them.
Helen - That is awful locking the keys in the car, and so easy to do! You poor thing. It must have been a long wait for the RACQ to turn up. I bet Corey was happy and not even aware of the stress he was causing to him mum!
Sue - good on you and DH for purchasing the bassinette. I get all funny about things like that as well and think I have jinxed myself. My mother gets so annoyed with me, and then I remind her that I got the whole superstitious streak from her! I hope the coming days aren't too agonising as you move closer to the NT scan. You will be ok. Is your DH able to go with you?
Well my nesting is still a complete mess and I really need to get it done by Monday...just in case. If I went into labour now with this place in this state...I would die! It is very carthatic throwing out things, and I have also found things that I thought had gone missing! I had another Ob appointment yesterday, and all is good. My ob estimated that the baby will be 7-7.5 lbs. The swab (for that Strep thing) came back clear as well. I also went and ordered a TENS machine and it is arriving today. My mum is sending down the outfit I came home in - she was given it by a woman when I was born and it was 21 years old, so it is now 53 years old. It was handmade by women in India and it even has hand stitched buttons on it - it is lovely. I am so glad that Mum has been able to send it down to me, as she and I always talked about me bringing my babies home in it. Sometimes I get scared that I am getting too confident, but in my rational mind I know that all will be ok.
Ok, enough about me. I hope you are all doing well this week. I hope no one has thrown something at their TV when the Fernwood ad comes on! Hi to Laney, Jo, Cindee, Rozzie. Take care ladies
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Katie - not sure if DH can make it to the NT Scan. He is a boilermaker and really just started not that long ago at the company he is working for. So we are being very careful about how much time he is taking off. I really want him to come to the 20 week scan, so we might forego this one.... even though I am nervous about it all.
Questions girls, as I have never gotten this far before, do you get a lower sore back?? I think because I sit at a desk all day, last night I had really sore lower back.... of course again I am nervous about it all.
Hi Sue - I would think that lower back pain is very common. I have had back pain in my lower and upper back on and off through the whole pregnancy. My ob said that sharp pain, and pain in the upper belly are usually nothing to worry about - it is more cramping across the middle that is a concern. If you find it continues, maybe see a physio or osteopath. It is most likely just your body getting used to the uterus expanding. If you are worried, call your Dr though as they will be able to give you some reassurance.
Sorry for lack of personals but I am a bit short on time today. I just wanted to pop in and WOW everyone has been so busy this week whilst I have been at work. Good scans, ttc excitement and of course Katie and her magical day getting so close!
I just wanted to let you all know very quickly how my appt went with the specialist. He has put me on thyroid meds and I have noticed a difference already after only 3 days. I need to monitor for 10 days and then double my dosage if I don't feel like its enough. Anyway, that was good news but he also wants me to get my progesterone checked. I have to wait until day 21 of my cycle so have had one blood test because forgot to wait till day 21 so have to have another next week.
I don't know if anyone here is being treated for low progesterone or estrogen dominance but I've been googling it and OMG it is exactly me (a lot of similar symptoms to thyroid). From what I can gather it is largely overlooked by doctors because the drug companies can't patent it (naturally occurring so noone can patent) and therefore don't 'educate' doctors about it when pharma reps go round holding there conferences and education sessions.
Anyway, if any of you girls normally suffer from pms you may want to look into it. Progesterone seems to be the most important hormone for pregnancy and I've read a lot of stories of women who have suffered multiple miscarriages and trouble conceiving and then have sorted our their progesterone and have had no problems.
Compounding chemists make up a natural progesterone cream (apparently most effective way for body to absorb) but you need a script. One website I found quite helpful is Jenny Birdsey - NPAN, there's a list of GP's and chemists who support treating women for progesterone management.
Anyway, I've gotta run but I though some of you might find it interesting or at least worth looking into, I don't know how they test it etc if you are already PG but I'm sure you can, for those of us about to ttc you may want to have a look before you start. I certainly want to make sure I get myself sorted before so that I have less to worry about once I am PG.
Anyone who is being treated etc?? Please let us know anything you can.
Take care everyone, even though I don't have a lot of time to post lately I try and read posts when I can and am thinking of you all often. Will hopefully get time to sit down properly over weekend and really catch up on where everyone is at.
hi everyone!
i am so glad it is the end of the week although i have so much going on this weekend it won't be much of a break. i started to fake tan this morning on my legs and i can't decide if it is an attractive orange or brown shade. The girls at work swear with a 2nd coat it will be ok but i am scared to do it on any obvious parts of my body incase.....
hammi - I want to start TTC after AF next month. It is a huge step and i feel like for me it is now or never. I don't want to wait another 6 months of waiting and wether we are going to try but am absolutely petrified of anything happening again like Jack and Madison. Especially now it has hit home twice. I feel like the whole TTC thing is the HUGEST weight being carried on my shoulders and i really wish it did'nt feel that way. Right now i feel as though i will only smile in the preg AFTER a baby is born. But i am taking my folate and asprin daily regardless. I would rather it be in my system just in case. i also got my pap smear done the other day and she said (TMI) that there was alot of mucous (normal, i freaked when she said that!) and they may not be able to pick up the results they need. handy...i want the results in my hand before i TTC also. josh wants a yu-gi-oh party but it is at hungry jacks instead of home as dan could'nt face it this year and the party bags and cake will have his theme choice. He is so excited and i have bought a few things off ebay so he will have a few nice surprises! Also with the appointment - i found once i got there for the 2 different OBs with madison that things also came to me once i was there. they would say something that prompted something else and they were so thorough as katie said with their questions i am sure we could'nt have missed anything.
hgirs -i did the same thing with Em except it was a hot day and i was ready to break the window! i was trying to explain to her through the window how to push up the lock and she finally got it after 10 panicked minutes so i could open the door. I too have kept my keys super close ever since!
katie -that outfit sounds so precious and filled with sentimental values! i love that you mum has sent it down -how is she???? What have they said about her treatment?
syran - i know but the long term customers feel they can - half the problem!!
Its funny how my customers are so open about it yet Dhs family (until last weekend) won't talk about it! Lower back pain is common and can affect you more depending on what you do, for me since i stand all day it was an issue esp. I started getting it with Madison quite early this time compared to the others. But as Katie advised if there is anything like sharp pains and anything you are 2nd guessing get it checked out.
sorry girls gotta cut it short -hi to all i have missed! I hope you are looking after yourselves! Kids need to eat!
x jo
jo, I tried the fake tan once. You really do need the second coat!
I am glad to hear that you want to try again soon. It was so difficult for me to wait to get pregnant. I do feel a little relief now that I have that part over with. I have been crying less the past few weeks, I am trying to keep hope in the heparin.
Paula, It sounds like your appt went really well. It is great to hear that you are feeling better already.
Sue, I get awful back pain very early. It is much worse when I sit at the computer for too long. I went out and got a small lower back support pillow for my chair, it helps.
Katie, I can't wait to see the picture of your little bub in her beautiful outfit!
Lan, I hope your pre-conception counseling goes well. Be armed with lots of questions. I really hope your next cycle is the one.
Hi to everyone I missed. My DH and I are going to his parents, they have some work for him to do.
As for me things are good. I gagged for the first time today while brushing my teeth. The sickness is not far off. I am counting down until we get to see this tiny bub. Just 2+ days.
Yay, you're going to start TTC with me Jo. That is a HUGE decision and I'm really glad that you've made it and that you'll be with me next month. Then it'll be Paula, and hopefully we'll all fall quickly and get to to suffer M/S together.
Anything yet Katie? Do you have any feeling about when you'll have your little chickadee? Ooooh, I am so excited for you. I can't wait to see your girl in her special outfit. Have you briefed DH that we need news and and pics promptly?
Paula, I diagnosed myself with low progesterone with the help of Dr Google after Hamish was born because I had two cycles with no rise in temp. I did get a rise on my 3rd cycle and since starting thyroid meds my overall temp has also improved a bit. Although if you had no problems with Ethan... are thyroid and hormone problems something that can just develop or are they in-built?
Laney... after you have your scan, will you be game enough to put up a ticker? I'm addicted to all the tickers in here and it's like therapy watching them go up and up. Particularly Katie's - that one seems like it's on steroids! Remember to give me your drugs when you're done Katie :-)
Love and kisses to Rozzie, Tildy, Helen, Sue, Cindee and anyone else I've missed.
Lan, I can't believe your ttc time is nearly here. DH and I are definitely waiting until after xmas. With all this thyroid and hormone stuff going on I just want to make sure everything is Aok before we get PG again.
Jo I'm excited that you are feeling nearly ready again. THe whole now or never things rings so true for me as well. I sometimes think the longer you leave it the more doubt and worry you have time to create. Some days I wake up feeling really brave and think I should just do it then (like we can just decide what day we are going to conceive) but then the next day I am sure I will never have the courage to go again and what was I thinking!
Laney, who would have thought we could all get so excited about gagging on a toothbrush! I'm with Lan and can't wait to see your ticker. No pressure though, only when you're ready.
Sue, good on you and DH for buying that bassinet, it sounds so gorgeous and just perfect for your little bambini. Very courageous and such a healthy sign that you are starting to gain some confidence with this pregnancy. I can't wait to hear your news after your scan.
Helen, you must have shaved years off your life when you locked the keys in the car. Glad that all ended ok and we can all now look forward to your scan in Nov. It will be here before we know it.
Hi Roz, Cindee and anyone else I have forgotten. I hope life is treating you all well. Unfortunately for me I am back into the study for a couple of months to get my admissions qualifications. Then that is DEFINITELY it. I could be doing it part time but I don't want to have any pressure once I get PG again so am cramming it all in now.
take care everyone and thinking of you all always.
Hi guys, just wanted to drop a quick note to say hello and say that I'm fine! I've been busy busy! I think I need a nap and it's only 10:22 am, but it was apparently only 6:45 when I got up and went to the store today... silly Daylight Savings Time ending without me knowing!
Hi Ladies,
I just got back from my appt. Everything went well. The tiny little baby looks good, good HB. I am not as far along as I thought, a couple days behind. The doctor was not too surprised. I had a loss the cycle before I got pregnant which messes everything up and I have been having long cycles already. I was very nervous all last night. It felt like today was the first day of school. I called and set up my high-risk appt. It is next Friday. I am just taking it one day at a time. Keeping my fingers crossed we at least get through this first part before I worry too much about the later parts.
Last edited by Laney; October 28th, 2008 at 03:20 AM.
Congrats Laney and good on you for putting a ticker up, we're collecting them in here in this thread! I hope this pregnancy is The One for you. Now forgive me but I'm like Rachel in Friends - I can never see the baby in early ultrasound pics. What's what in your piccie there?
Tildy, I just noticed that Kebab's passed Beiron's gestational age. What was that day like? Did you freak out? Are you still freaking or is Kebab starting to feel like his/her own person now?
Paula you are so good with your continuing education. I did one extra year to get my honours and that was that for me! It is only a few months for admissions though then you'll soon be done and looking forward to pregnancy milestones with Jo and I :-)
Hi Everyone - sorry that I haven't posted. I thought I was keeping up with the reading but have realised that I missed a couple of posts.
Laney - wonderful news on the scan! I found the 6 week scan the scariest, but also the most beauitful. To see that little jellybean with a flickering heart was just amazing. I can imagine you were very nervous, but so glad that you received good news. I know the coming weeks will be tough, but know we are all here for you. I found I set milestones and would tick them off as I went, it seemed to keep me moving forward. I also had weekly Ob appointments (and he would do a scan) from 12-21 weeks just to get me past the period when Nathaniel passed. I hope your high risk appointment goes well and you feel confident and comfortable with the care providers. Great news on the gagging whilst brushing your teeth!
Paula - you have a busy couple of months ahead with your study. It will be a relief to get that out of the way, and you can then relax a bit to start TTC. I understand what you mean about needing the confidence to TTC again. My sister who lost 2 babies in the 2nd tri, gave me good advice - she told me not to put it off for too long as the fear would build and it would become much harder if not impossible. She told me not to let fear stop us. I understood what she said, but I have to admit once I found out I was pregnant...I freaked! I can't say what was worse, the overwhelming desire to be pregnant again or the fear when I was pregnant. I was quite a psycho lady for the first 20 plus weeks...still am actually!
Sue - glad to see your ticker moving forward.
Tildy - hope you are well. How does it feel to have moved past the time that Beiron passed? Has it given you any confidence that this baby will be ok? I was very glad to get past 20 weeks, it highlighted that this was a different pregnancy and that this baby deserved my confidence in their strength to survive.
Lan and Jo - so you are both going to start TTC in November. It will be a big month, and I wish you both the very easiest and happiest TTC period. Well done to you both to make the big decision to try again, it is never an easy one.
Hi to everyone else - Cindee, Roz and everyone else....
Okay so news from my world. I finally have our apartment sorted and the piles of junk have been thrown out. We even have spare room in our cupboards! I love it. It is something that we have been meaning to do for 2 years, so why not do it in my last weeks of preg. I have been lucky to and am still fairly mobile. I did go into the city yesterday and did some shopping and oh my how my feet hurt. I had to soak them in cold water when I got home, and then my hips started to play up and made walking hard. Mind you, I am not complaining. I find that so many people ask me if I am sick of being pregnant, uncomfortable etc, and I make a point of saying that I am still doing well and feeling good. I refuse to complain about being this pregnant, especially as this is what I have been wishing for. So now complaints coming from this corner! I have almost finished packing my hospital bag, and hopefully that will all be done by tomorrow. We picked up the pram on Saturday and DH has played with it almost nonstop and is now an expert. I had one painful Braxton Hicks yesterday, but nothing after that. So I have a feeling I still have a bit of a wait ahead of me. Poor DH has to study for an exam which is scheduled the day before I am due. He is finding it hard to concentrate. Also my mum started chemo yesterday, we will know today how she is going to cope with it in terms of side effects. She is in good spirits though which is very important.
Thank you all for the general excitement, and I promise to return the favour to you all as you move forward in all your pregnancies.
Alright will be off, I have written enough already!
The sickness is not far off. I am counting down until we get to see this tiny bub. Just 2+ days.
That is a HUGE decision and I'm really glad that you've made it and that you'll be with me next month. Then it'll be Paula, and hopefully we'll all fall quickly and get to to suffer M/S together. 
I can't say what was worse, the overwhelming desire to be pregnant again or the fear when I was pregnant. I was quite a psycho lady for the first 20 plus weeks...still am actually! 
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