Trying To Conceive After Stillbirth/Late Loss/Recurrent Miscarriage August 2008

Hi Sue - I hope you are ok and taking it easy. Are you resting up? Are you sure the bleed is not related to the bowel movement? That is a TMI question I know. I had small spotting at 6 weeks and it devastated me but it turned out to be nothing and it has not happened again. I also had bleeding with my preg with Nathaniel and it was about a week later when they think he passed away, so I do understand how the sight of any pink tinges is terrifying. I know it is scary, so try to rest and not over exert yourself. Scans are terrifying but they can also offer the most wonderful reassurance. Maybe call your ob and see what they suggest you do? I will say a prayer for you. Please keep us up to date with how you are doing. :hug:

Oh Sue - Katie is right, I hope you have been resting. I have had brown spotting with every pregnancy so far and only my 1st out of those developed into a miscarriage, so it can be OK, I know nothing will take away that fear, maybe you could ask your DR to do some bloods??

Girls I need you to cross everything you have for me too!! I had a temp drop to coverline 36.2 yesterday with some spotting, at 10dpo thought great all over for another month, but this morning my temp has jumped up to 36.7 still have a really small amount of brown spotting. So I am hoping like crazy it is implantation not AF on her wicked way, will see what tomorrows temp brings! Has anyone elses temp gone back up like that and still turned into AF?

Thank you so much for all your positive vibes.

I am sick of going to the toilet to check!!!!! By the way, no bleeding today.....

Anyway Helen, I will have everything crossed. I wish I could look at your chart!!! I am a chart freak.

Anyway BFP Vibes for you....

xxx Sue xxx

OMG! my computer just ate my post! :wall::wall::wall:
So hello to you all, will write back later when i get more time!!!
x jo

Sue, is it haemerroids?

Helen, don't need to cross anything. It's your month, it's going to happen. Say goodbye to AF for 10mths!

my computer just ate my post as well!! but i have had that happen before and now copy them before i post just in case... ha ha little computer... i win this round!

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Hi Girls, I am supposed to be on holidays and have been so busy that I never seem to have time to do anything. After I dropped DS off at daycare today i forced myself to go back to bed and have only just gotten up (1:30pm). This is the one week of my holidays that are just for me so I really want to make the most of it before I start work.

Sue: I have everything crossed for you and other than that I don't know what else to say... other than it sucks and you shouldn't have to be so worried all the time.

Helen: I haven't gotten as far as the temp thing so I don't really know what is good or bad as far as ttc but I hope it is a good sign for you. I used to do the temp thing a long time ago but to prevent conceiving, funny how life changes!

Lan: good on you re the counselling. I had some counselling after I lost Charlie and it really helped. I've thought about going back before ttc and hearing that you have as encouraged me to do so. I met her at a retreat that I went to and she ws so gorgeous. She apparently worked with Olivia Newton John when she had cancer etc. She was really open to embracing Charlie's presence and keeping her in our lives through ritual and stuff. A lot of people look at you like you're a freak when you talk about that kind of stuff but she said it was essential for the healing process.

Hi cindee, Jo, roz, tildy and everyone else... I hope you are all well!

As for me, my trip to Dunk Is. was great. It rained non-stop for the first 4 days and then was beautiful. We ate and drank non-stop and had the most perfect day snorkeling out on the Barrier Reef. DS kept calling it the Big Barrier Reef and did a great job taking on the snorkeling thing! The holiday was over all too soon but I guess if they went forever we wouldn't appreciate them as much.

I've had an interesting time since returning. It's funny that the temperature thing should come up because I'm taking mine again now but for different reasons. It's a long story which I may share at some point but basically a sequence of 'coincidences' led me last week to a natural thyroid specialists. I really believe it was Charlie guiding me.

For most of my adult life whenever I go to a new doctor or naturopath as soon as they see me they ask if I've been tested for thyroid problems. As a result I was always having blood tests to check which always came back showing no problem. Anyway, I got so sick of it because I had all the symptoms of hypothyroidism but got to the point where I thought I was just making excuses and that I needed to eat better and exercise more and just get over it. btw I have a very good diet and exercise at least 5 times a week already.

To be honest I had really put the whole thyroid thing out of my mind. This lady is one of the few practitioners in Australia who has this alternative testing equipment developed in the states and as soon as she saw me she said I had a problem and then all the tests showed that the problem is quite serious. I know that is bad but in a way it is good for me because at least now something can be done about it. She works in with a specialst in Brisbane who is a doctor and had his own thyroid (which could not be diagnosed with blood tests) treated after using this method. Thyroid medication can only be prescribed by a doctor so I have now been referred to him and he is getting me to take my temps which along with the testing will help him determine the correct dosage.

The interesting thing about my appointment with the naturopath is that she was so straightforward about everything and almost blunt about this being a significant factor in both my miscarriage and then losing Charlie. If I had not been in such a good place I may have been upset about the way she handled it, but it was actually nice just to have someone tell it how it is and back herself.

She said stress is a big trigger of thyroid problems and will really exacerbate the problem. I have had more stress over the past 2 years than ever in my life so it makes sense.

Anyway, I won't ramble on anymore but was wondering what a temp cycle is for you girls who are temping. I have no idea if mine are high or low. They seem low 36.1 around 2 weeks after the first day of last period but I'm not sure. I saw helen that you dropped to 36.2 so I'm guessing 36.1 is pretty low, it's been around this for 3 days so far.

I'll keep you girls posted but am relieved to have discovered this now and will hopefully have my health back on track by ttc time in December. Does anyone else ever have the feeling their angels are guiding them to certain things??

Hi MrsRobbo,

Just wanted to let you know, that I also have a thyroid problem and I find it quite frustrating that I seem to be the one always harrassing the Dr's about getting it tested all the time, especially when I am pregnant!!!. Mine was diagnosed by blood test though. Doesnt yours say there is a problem with blood tests????

I am on Thyroxine around 100 mg per day....

Mine got diagnosed when I was around 25 years old. It took them ages to find it, as they didnt think I was old enough to have this problem.... One day my friend's mum said to me "have you been tested for thyroid problems?", so I went to the Dr and insisted on it - and guess what - that was the problem.

With temperature charting, my temperature before ovulations is around 36.1 to around 36.4, and after ovulation it goes around 36.6 to 36.9 depending..... hope this helps.

xxx Sue xxx

Sue -- I know it's super tough to see spotting, believe me, but I don't want you to lose hope. First, it turned from pink one day into brown next day. This is a good thing. Plus, at your stage, they say spotting is so normal, with the placenta implanting and everything. I may not be able to take that kind of advice seriously when they give it to me, but I must believe it 100% deep down for other people, because I really think things will be okay for you. Call your doctor and explain, then you'll know that s/he knows and s/he can decide what to do. :hug: It's funny, but I really want my current pregnancy to suceed not just for me but so I can lurk around here afterwards and say "I had 3 huge, bright red bleeds in the first trimester and it was still just fine!"

Paula -- I've been hypothyroid since I was about 12, and before that I was hyPERthyroid for 4 years. So I've been taking meds for over 20 years for it. Like Sue I'm also on 100 micrograms. They test me quite often this time, since I had a late loss last time, and they're explaining every result to me. After the first test she said the hormone levels were perfect, but the TSH (hormone stimulator produced by me, not the medicine) is low, suggesting that my meds might be too high. However, she won't change them yet, as it's the hormone level that the baby needs and the TSH is not important for the baby, so no fiddling now. When they test me now it's just a blood test, but when I was 8 the ver first tests involved iodine and several hours of pumping stuff in and out of me, so as I understand it a simple blood test won't always uncover the problem. Thyroid levels are SO important for our bubs -- I've been told that if I weren't medicated I would have been infertile, but with medication I got knocked up ini 2 months, so it seems like it's at least as important as they say.

Lan -- it's great to hear that you're starting off everything with counseling and health checks etc. As soon as we decided to start TTC I called around trying to get some sort of pre-conception counseling from the doctors and such here; I took it for granted that such a thing was "normal". I was just repeatedly told "Oh, we don't do that" and "call us when you're pregnant or if you've gone 2 years of trying without getting pregnant." So please, take every opportunity you have to have a whole team around you preparing you for this most important of events!

Helen -- nope, I have never had a cycle when I dipped down and then up again and then gotten AF, because my last cycle was EXACTLY like that (with the spotting at the same time as well) and ended up with a BFP!

My shoulders and back are killing me, as we're trying to take care of our neglected garden before going to Spain tomorrow. Have you ever tried to use a hand mower to cut grass that's gotten to be about 15 cm long? We spent the whole weekend on it and the weeds are only half picked. Here's the sad part -- I think our garden is 150 square meters total.

My scan is today, 3 pm. You'll all probably be in bed when I get home, but I'll drop a post about how it went. I won't be home to see how Rozzie's went, and we won't have a computer with us because I think we need to get away from that, but I'm sending all possible positive vibes her way for Wednesday!

Thanks everyone for your good vibes, I am soooo confused right now, I so want to POAS but if I only implanted yesterday it's too early, BUT if my temps are still up tomorrow I will be and I will let you all know STRAIGHT AWAY!! after DH of course! I have tried not to get my hopes up even telling myself my temp will drop tomorrow and AF will come, but then I get this little tiger in my head saying 'No Way think POSITIVE girl!' But I guess I don't need to explain all these feelings to you girls. Bring on the morning so I know once and for all (I hope).

Tildy - good luck with your scan:bellyrubs: I hope my chart ends up like yours!

Paula - I am glad they found your thyroid problem, and now you can be on the road to fixing it, just a query, are you seeing Heather Bruce?? Just the way you described her being very straight forward sounds like her. My temps before Ov vary from 36.0 (I have had as low as 35.8)to 36.3, after ov they usually sit around 36.5 but range between 36.4 to 36.8. I hope that helps, if anyone knows how do I put my Fertility Friend chart up so you can read it? Good luck for Dec.

Sue - How are you feeling? Do you know how to put my FF chart up?? If I can work it out I will be able to show you!

Jo - I have had cyberspace steal my posts many times!! I will have to do the copy & paste thing too when I seem to have a a lot to say, because it is a bugger having to rewrite what you just did! How are you?? I hope Dec brings you joy too.:hug:

Lan - thanks for your positivity I hope your right! And yes you are on the road to a BFP too, December seems like the month!!

Katie, Cindee - How are you?

Wow, girls, I don't feel like such a freak now knowing that I am not the only one with thyroid issues. It's a bit like this forum, i'm not happy that you girls have problems too but it makes me feel less alone knowing there are others out there. It makes me a bit angry that I may have lost my babies because of this but I am trying not to dwell on it. I was being treated with B6 injections when I fell pregnant with DS for stress and a few other things and now I'm wondering if this is what helped him survive. My naturopath has put me on a special B supplement to help relax me a bit. If it was what got him through then what a little miracle he is... as if I didn't know that already after what has happened this year.

THe ladies name is Jan Saxon, she was in my exact sitation several years ago and has now made it her mission to help as many women as she can with this problem.

Anyway, looking forward to hearing about some good scan results over the next few days from tildy and rozzie and Sue still having everything crossed that your spotting is just implantation and all that other crazy PG stuff!

Good Morning girls

Well on the good side my temp rose again today to....37.2! Huge jump, but on the down side did POAS and got:bfn:. So will just have to wait it out a bit longer, will test again on Thursday is nothing happens in the mean time.

Tildy - How did the scan go?

Rozzie - when is yours?

my scan is tomorrow afternoon, getting nervous :(

I can understand you being nervous Rozzie, I wish I could be there to hold your hand.

Got the FF thing sussed, now you can have a look at my chart!

Helen - what a jump on your chart! You are still early so you may still get your BFP. And remember, I got a BFN before I got my BFP and I was already about 4 or so days after AF. So you just never know. I know it is hard to not get excited but also you don't want to get disappointed, so I will just keep sending you positive vibes and lets hope for the best.

Paula - good luck with moving forward with working on the thyroid problem. I had no idea so many of you had this issue. I know my naturopath had me taking Iodine to help but I don't think I ever had a real problem with it. Sending you positive vibes that you start to feel confident as you start TTC.

Rozzie - good luck for your scan tomorrow. I know they are nerve wracking. Just keep hoping for the best. We are all here to support you.

Tildy - I hope all goes well with your scan and please update us soon.

Lan - not long until you start TTC as well. Dec is so close now. This year has in some respects flown by (but also at times feels like it has dragged).

Hi to Jo, Cindee etc.

I am well. I have another ob appointment this Friday. The big thing that has happened is my mother has just been diagnosed with breast cancer. It has come as a shock but the good news is that the tumour is very small and the drs are remaining hopeful. She had the tumour and some lymph nodes removed last week, but has to go back again tomorrow as they found another tiny tumour next to the larger one so they want to go back and take more lymph nodes. If all comes back clear (in terms of the lymphs) then she will start radiation in 4 weeks time. I am flying up to Brisbane on Friday and staying for a week to help out and keep mum company. I am just staying very positive that all will be well and she will have the best outcome possible. So I will be 34 weeks on Saturday and am getting close to when I can no longer fly. I just hope nothing happens when I am in Brisbane...as DH would never forive me if I went into labour up there! Besides that I still feel very healthy apart from the sciatica which slows me down a bit.

Hugs to you all :hug:

Good morning girls,

Rozzie - :crossfingers: for a great scan tomorrow. I can understand you being nervous, I know I will be. I will be thinking of you.

Tildy - :crossfingers: also for your scan. I so hope everything is good for you also. You are an amazing woman to have gone through you have. I spot a little and I am going crazy!!! Thank you so much for your positive words.

Helen - Chart looks fantastic. I will watch with interest. Hopefully a BFP this month for you. I will :pray: for you and DH.

Mrs Robbo/Tildy - I cant believe that you both have thyroid problems also!!! Though I wish you didnt, it is nice that there are others I can chat to about it.

Katie - I am so sorry to hear of your mum. I hope all things go well with her treatment and because they have got it quickly that she recovers quickly. Look after yourself though.....

Well with me, I had a little more pink spotting last night, which has gone brown again. I was so sick last night with morning sickness (seem to get it at night). Though I dont physically vomit, I had some much wind and felt so sick and was dry reaching all the time. Couldnt eat a thing!!! Hopefully this is a good sign.

Had a lot more diarrhoea this morning. Not sure what is going on..... have contacted Repromed (fertility clinic) and am awaiting a call back. I so hope it is what Tildy say, I really want this baby bad....

Well hoping everyone has a good day.

xxx Sue xxx

Katie, I’m really sorry about your mum. It’s good that the tumour is small and that it was detected early. I’m glad you’ll be able to go up and spend some time with her but take care of yourself and your little girl too.

I’m also thyroid challenged. My TSH level is about 3.3 which is considered OK by medical standards but my naturopath said that anything higher than 2 indicates a problem. She’s got me on ThyroCo. So far I haven’t seen anything different in my temps but my energy levels have improved.

Paula, my temps are really low too. Before ovulation I go from as low as 35.6 to 36.2. Before August, my temps didn’t go up after ovulation at all. But last month I managed to have a rise which ranged from 36.3 to 36.7. Still not very high, but I was more concerned about not having a clear temp shift before. You can look at my chart in my sig.

I told my stupid Obs about my low temp when we went back for Hamish’s autopsy result and he was totally uninterested.

Sue, when The Bad Thing happened to me, I had the light pink tinge but it turned redder and redder. The fact that yours turns brown seems to be OK. Fingers, toes, eyes and hair all crossed.

Helen, your chart is very dynamic. I know this is freaky to say but how about you ignore your temps and test in a few more days?

How’s my dear Jo? I’m actually typing this post in Word and will paste into BB at lunch time to save it being eaten :-)

Hi all,

Just heard from Repromed, going to have some bloods tomorrow to check my levels.

Fingers crossed they are all OK.

Also just got a phone call from my local GP, my thyroid TSH levels are up, so I have to increase levels of thyroxine (to 150). Amazing isnt it!!! if it wasnt for me harassing them and asking for bloods all the time to check, you never know what might happen.

I also mentioned the spotting and she didnt seem concerned, but she wants me to have another test in 2 weeks to check the thyroid again.

Hammi - I have seen an endocronologist about my thyroid, he says that "providing the TSH is less than 4.5 mU/L, the thyroid values will be OK". Hope this helps.

xxx Sue xxx



xxx Sue xxx

My scan was good. This one was just the 12-week one to give a better due date and check the nuchal fold. Oh, and to check how many fetuses, but we already knew there was just one, of course. We measured at 12+3, so I got a new due date that's a few days earlier. :) The nuchal fold test gave us a 1 in 3260 chance of Down's. And DH joked that the baby looked just like him -- a head, two arms, and two legs.

I'm sorry to here about your mom, Katie. My mom had breast cancer when I was 17, but has recovered completely even though she kept her mouth shut for a year and a half after finding the tumor herself. It's nice that you can spend some time with her, take care of yourself, too!

I forgot to mention about the thyroid that I believe it gives us slightly lower temps than the average person. I even read somewhere when I started charting that it might make the temps unreliable for charting purposes. However, that's probably all moot if we're properly medicated.

Helen, I also got BFNs when I tested before AF was due. It's such a rough wait! I really hope there's a BFP at the end of the wait for you.

Today we're leaving for a week in Spain with two of our close friends. I can't wait to see what news there is from Rozzie, Helen, Sue and others when I get back. Take care of yourselves, girls, and I'll be thinking of you!

Tildy,

:happyforyou::happyforyou::happyforyou:

What fantastic news. I am so glad your scan went well and everything is OK.

Have a fantastic time in spain and enjoy yourself.

xxx Sue xxx

Great news on the scan Tildy!! have a relaxing, wonderful time!

Katie - I am so sorry about your mum, but her quick diagnosis seems very encouraging! Hopefully all will be well and this is just a hiccup of life! If you need any time out while you are in Brissy feel free to contact me I will try and be there in an instant!

I have to say I am no longer feeling very confident, the spotting even though still tiny amount and very brown has increased with the odd sharp pain every now and then. Fingers crossed but we will see:rolleyes:

Lan - very good advice about stopping the charting.....But I have to say I am one of those obsessed people and....well....CAN"T!!!! I keep saying maybe next cycle I will just give it a miss and let nature take it's course, but I am a bit of a control freak.

I hope everyone else is traveling OK, Katie how is Mel? Does she still pop in here? Is she coping OK after Joshua's passing?? I didn't know her but was so terribly devastated for her.

Good morning girls,

Well I am in the nervous wait at the moment. I decided too stay home today, just in case it is bad news with the blood test. I am so hoping that they are going to call to say my levels are exactly where they should be!!! I havent had any bleeding today. Though my bbs dont feel sore at all.

I have just got the internet at home now, so watch out girls!!!

Helen - dont give up yet, remember me with the spotting etc from 8dpo and looked what happen.

Well hoping everyone is having a good day.

xxx Sue xxx

Hi Girls,

Just got my results back from Repromed.

They say my Oestrogen, Progesterone levels are good and also my HCG is around the 85,000 mark, which apparently good also......

Of course they say this is not conclusive and I have to wait for the scan on Wed.

I am feeling a little better....

xxx Sue xxx

YAY!! Sue that is great news, and thanks for your comment about not giving up, I am very good at giving advice to people but not so great at reassuring myself! As we probably all are. Here is to a great scan on Wed, only a week to go.....Feels like forever to me, let alone you!

Hey Sue, good news! The scan will confirm just how sticky your bub is.

Helen, your temp is still abover the coverline, so still good! I know what you mean, I wouldn't be able to stop temping either. It's ADDICTIVE!

Hi all,

just got back from the scan and the OB, all is looking good!! I'm so relieved. And exhausted, on top of my usual exhaustion I worked myself up so much beforehand and now I feel drained. Next appointment isn't for another 6 weeks.

The next few days will still be hard because I had a bleed last time around this stage, but the sonographer said the placenta appears to be nice and high so hopefully there will be no repeat of last time.

Congrats to you Sue!! Looking forward to a scan report. If you don't mind my asking, about what gestation were your previous miscarriages? It's just out of interest. I hope that you'll soon feel more confident.

Love Rozzie

Big congrats to Rozzie and Tildy on your great scan results... And to you too Sue, hopefully you'll get more good news on Wed Sue when you have your scan. Sadly I have nothing interesting to report about. I have watched 4 dvd's in 2 days and may venture out tomorrow to go shopping. Only 1 more week till I start work so making the most of the resting up time. I have my inlaws next week so that won't be quite so relaxing!!

Great news Rozzie!!! I hope you can start to relax now, it all sounds so good.

Well I am going to POAS again in the morning, temps still up and spotting seems to have stopped today! Weird. BB's feel tingly today and a little yesterday, but maybe that is just the mind games....

Good morning girls,

Hope everyone is well today.

Rozzie - congratulations on your scan. So glad everything is going well and that you can start to relax.

Rozzie, I lost my 3 angels at 7 weeks, 8 weeks and 12 weeks. So hopefully once I get past the 12 weeks and have that bigger scan everything will be OK. Fingers crossed anyway.

Helen, how did you go???? Though remember I didnt get a postive until a couple days after my period was due and it was faint.....

:hello: to Mrs Robbo, Katie, Hammi, Cindee, Jo and Tildy.

xxx Sue xxx

Helen - you have to let us know how your test went...and I am another one who only got faint postives a while week after AF was late. I will keep my fingers and everything else crossed for you.

Rozzie - lovely news on the scan. Congrats.

Sue - I hope next Wed rolls around quickly for you but the results to far are promising. Stay positive.

Congrats Rozzie and Tildy on your scans. So good to hear that everything is going great for you guys. I hope the weeks start to fly by for you.

Sue, you just have to believe, believe, believe in your miracle baby :-)

Helen, did you test this morning? I predict you'll be throwing down a BFP early next week. Yeah!

Paula, can I pls come over and watch DVDs with you? I'm so not into work today!

Hi and hugs to Jo, Katie and anyone I've missed.

xoxox

Hi all

Sorry to keep you in suspense! I took a test this morning and it was completely BFN:(. Have just come back from the shops and I still don't really understand how it could be so bought some cheapie tests at woolies. Did the test was looking BFN, starting crying about all the stupid things like 'why should we have to go through all this??? I should be able to just jump the God damn queue!' .....Checked the test again and there is the slightest of slightest line there!! So hence I am now crying even more, stupid women.

I am a little apprehensive though as my temp was 36.4 today and with the tests not showing anything much (when with my other pregnancies it was loud and clear by 12 & 14dpo. Just rang my DR and of course she is on leave next week so can't get into to see her until the 6th Oct, just hope this little bean sticks.

So keep crossing stuff for me!

Oh Helen, congratulations.

I so hope this little bean sticks for you also.

Now with all my other pregnancies, when I tested it came up strong also before AF was due.

With this one, it was different, so please hold onto that hope.

Here I am, not very positive myself and trying to be positive for you... funny how we all are... he he he

xxx Sue xxx

woo hoo helen

my first BFP with Charlie was so slight I could only see it in certain light. i remember callig my GF and telling her and both laughing about what an idiot I was holding the test under the brightest window in the house and squinting my eyes and still not even sure there was a line there. The funniest thing was that my GF had done the exact same thing herself.

I'm really excited for you and will send out some of those sticky vibes your way!!

hi guys!
have been working alot more hours and have;nt had a chance to get on here. But i have thought of you all everyday! Because this is a quickie post, i will write more tomorrow as it is my first early finish this week! :dance: I am knackered! i may sound lazy but i forgot how horrible full time work was and i have only been part-time for 6 months!!!!
katie -quickly posting to you because you said you were leaving Friday! I will hold you and your mum very close in my thoughts and sending you loads of hugs and love! I hope she is as ok as she can be during this time and she will cherish your support at this time! Please take care of you tho and your precious little girl! If you need ANYTHING i will pm you my mobile number! TAke care!:hug::hug::hug:
x jo

Where is everybody??? It is awfully quiet in here!

Sue and Katie (if you still on line Katie) and anyone else that has had faint positive tests, I have a question for you. I tested again today thinking for sure the line would be darker, but no it is still really really really faint:wall:, now I am a little worried this might be a chemical pregnancy, I guess I am just after any experience, in all reality this line should be getting darker right? I think I am doing my head in! I will test again on Sunday. What will be will be:rolleyes:

Hi Helen,

With me, I tested on a Sunday (first thing) and it was very light, then I went to the Dr's on Monday afternoon and she tested and it was still very light.

She then did a blood test to confirm that it was viable (which of course took a couple of days).

I know your Dr is away, but is there someone else you could go to??

xxx Sue xxx

It has been quiet hasn't it. My excuse is I'm exhausted when I get home and am too lazy to contribute.

Helen, my advice is to stop doing the HPTs. I must have done up to 30 in the first few weeks (I know how stupid this sounds, I don't need reminding) and would freak out if they were lighter than the last... The final one I did was lighter than one from the same brand. I ended up having a blood test a few days later and my HCG came back at 150,000... it is all about your urine concentration and the amount of dye in each test.

My energy is sapped now, will try and post more later!

Helen, I tested again a few days later and got a much darker line but I made sure it was first pee etc. I think I was already a fews days after my period was due.

On another note, I forgot to tell you girls that I planted the vegie garden last weekend. It was so satisfying and now I have all these yummy vegies to take care of. DS and I go out each morning and night to water and have a chat to them. I know its not as exciting as a BFP but perhaps you could all cross your fingers for me that I don't kill them all. Gardening is not my strong suit!!

Whoa, all these tickers in here are out of control. I love it!

Helen, I wouldn't listen to my own advice but it would be really good for your stress levels if you didn't test for about another five days. Your AF is only just due now isn't it? I'm telling you, this is your month, that BFP is is BFP, no matter how light!

Roz, your M/S sounds pretty severe. Baby's doing a lot of growing in there. Go baby go!

I have nothing to eat for dinner. It's Friday night and DH has a sore tummy so we can't eat out. Poor me.