Diana, big hugs to you, if it helps at all your not crazy! When I first started TTC after coming off the pill my cycles where wacko, we fell pregnant fairly much straight away but sadly lost that little one, it was then that I discovered how whacko they were. I had two periods post D&C of approx 45 - 55 days! Was giving it one more cycle to see what happened ( This is also why I started charting) before going onto clomid and WHAM I fell pregnant but guess what day I o'd on??? DAY 60!!!!!!!!!!! We were extremely lucky to have caught that little egg, as you can imagine DH and I were both a bit over TTC by that stage!
Good luck, when are you going to the coast? Maybe it's still meant to be?
Laney, woohoo!!! fantastic news, and I hate to sound smug but I just knew it... I knew that the clexane would do its job and after your last scan was just like my 18 week scan I knew your next one would be just like mine, 5 days ahead!!! I've had the cord measurements too and mine have come back great, I know yours will too
Teagz, I'm sorry if this offends you but what your friend said was horrible and if it were me I could never look at her the same again. Was it meant to be a joke?! either way, you don't joke about such things, and if it wasn't, that's just cruel. I hope you have some more sensitive people to lean on. Sorry to sound so strong but I just don't know what some people are thinking sometimes!!!
Diana, sorry to hear your cycle is all over the place I hope the IVF works out for you and try and relax and enjoy yourself on the coast before you have to deal with not drinking and morning sickness!!!
Theresa, if you're willing to share the story of Zachary's birth I'd like to hear it... on'y if you want... I know most of the women's stories here, it helps to understand what they're going through.
Paula, I knew you meant me hehe...
Lan and Jo, thinking of you, I hope you're doing well...
AFM, we did more baby shopping on the weekend... bought a change table, change mat, clothes, blankets/sheets/towels etc (all lovely organic bamboo ones) and put a deposit on a rocking chair my Mum is buying us, was very big!! We're almost all set now. Feels very strange... still stressing about the birth, should we go for VBAC or C-section... seeing the doctor next week after another scan so he will be bombarded with questions!!! He's the high risk specialist at the hospital so if he doesn't know the answers no-one will.
Also big news... gave Mum permission to tell my brother and sister, they were very happy (both have young kids of their own) and also told a few friends. I know it must sound odd that so many people don't know at 29 weeks but I have fairly much isolated myself from a lot of family and friends since the loss, it's just what I felt I needed, and now re-engaging slowly feels quite strange but nice. Thankfully they've all been understanding and patient.
Oh, I also just remembered something else the dumb woman said in the VBAC class that I thought was funny/sad- the midwife was talking about merconium stained waters as a sign of a baby in distress and she said 'isn't your baby meant to poo in the womb?"
Rozzie: good on you doing more shopping, sounds like you might be getting slightly addicted!! Wait till bub arrives, you won't be able to stop buying stuff. I am still a shocker and Ethan is nearly 5!. Have you any thoughts yet on which birthing option you're gonna go with. My OB told me next time I can go elective ceasar if i want. I'm a bit of an earth mother with stuff like that but still the thought of not brining home a healthy baby scares me so much that I might still go the ceasar option.
Diana: still no O, I can't believe it. Oh well, sounds like you are getting some progress and will be sniffing away in no time. I have no idea about IVF but hopefully it will work super quick and you'll be announcing a BfP before you know it.
Teagz: how weird about your AF. I wouldn't worry too much though. It does take time to get any sense of normal after your body has been through such physical and emotional turmoil. Keep us posted.
Theresa: I can't remember, do you have appointments booked or are you still waiting to hear?
Jo: good on you for speaking your piece at the classes. I agree that you should not worry about protecting everyone else. Those classes are for you too if everyone knows your situation you are bound to get much more out of them and not open yourself up to someone saying something they shouldn't. Although someone is bound to get foot in mouth disease at some point. Nothing surer.
Sue: when do your classes start. It was only yesterday we were mourning little frosty and now here we are gearing up for you to attend classes. Where did that time go!
Helen: special request, you are the chart guru. Earlier in the week I was so confident of getting a BFP as I have had every symptom and then some but now my temp seems to be on a steady decline. It hasn't gone below the coverline yet but just wondering what usually happens if you have conceived?
Hi to Jo, Lan, Tildy, Laney, Katie and everyone else I have missed.
if you're interested I'll bore you with the details as to why my birth options are so complicated.
I had to have a surgical birth with Edward as I had complete placenta previa. I was induced but when they did an internal they could feel the placenta so that was it. I'd love to have a VBAC to avoid further scarring on my uterus as I'd like lots more children, or at least the option, and more C-sections make things like placenta previa, placenta accreta and uterine rupture more likely (I'm sure you know all this but just explaining my thought processes). Unfortunately I'm not a normal VBAC case, as the risk of rupture during labour may be higher for me. This is because the non-muscular lower section of the uterus doesn't usually form till 28 weeks, so even though my incision is low the scar could be in the muscular upper part which contracts and the risk of rupture is higher than if it were in the lower segment. Make sense?
My former OB didn't explain any of this to me, not that there was any option anyway. He said I'd probably be able to have a natural birth but I don't know what he based that assessment on. They can do a scan to see if the uterine wall is thinning but the efficacy of this is unproven.
Paula - Thanks for putting me on the spot! I think we should just wait and see what happens tomorrow, if it goes back up that could be a great sign. You can have an implantation dip but it really is usually only a day or two. I hope with all my heart it goes back up a little and stays that way and was just only testing our paitence, I will eagerly be awaiting tomorrows temp! It's too early too really tell yet.
Rozzie - What a dilema, I worry about having a VBAC and my section was at term! I am not sure if after having Cooper naturally gives me any less risk??? I know the risks are very minimal after a normal LSCS but you have a totally different issue to deal with! It will not be an easy decision for you to make hopefully Edward will be able to guide you through it.
Interesting Helen, I didn't know about the implantation dip. I have had a few cramps (well really just slight pains and me being a bit of a woos!) so maybe it is an implantation dip. I knew I would have to wait until tomorrow but just thought there might be secret info out there that all my 24hr googling has not uncovered!!
I was so certain of a BFP a few days ago. I have the slight nausea (very slight) and all the pms symptoms. Which normally wouldn't indicate anything except that since I've been on the prog cream I have had virtually no pms. BB's are a little sore and I am incredibly bloated and gassy (TMI sorry!)
Another freaky thing is that when I was PG with Charlie for the first month or so I would wake up at exactly 4:16am every morning and go to the loo. Last week I was waking up every morning at exactly 4:16am to go to the loo! Freaky huh!!
Anyway, so I guess the temp drop is just to put me back in my place because I was being so ****y about getting a BFP.
Rozzie: WOW that does sound complicated. I was stressing enough about my decision with no real medical reason to go with either just a desperate need to bring home a live baby. I just keep freaking out about having a healthy scan at 38 weeks or something and then something going wrong and knowing i could have delivered and all would have been ok. Next time I start freaking out about it i will remind myself of the decision you have to make. Way harder than mine!! Happy pondering!
Paula -- check out my chart from the month I got pregnant: 219aae Ovulation Charts . I have super regular cycles of 26 days where I always have EW CM around day 13, so I believe that for me the temp method just wasn't so very accurate for some reason. The reason could be a combination of my broken thyroid and the fact that I spent most of the first half of that month crying and having insomnia and basically being a wreck and a half. As you can see, before O the temps say diddly squat and after O I dipped below FF's coverlilne (clearly implantation though, as I was also spotting just then). It's like a voodoo science I had to laugh, btw, about you getting up at exactly 4:16 every day to use the toilet. Mine is 3:53 AM, has been the whole pregnancy! You might be on to something there!
Rozzie -- it is indeed a very tough decision. Normally you can say to yourself "what's best for my baby?" but in this case you have to weigh safety for this baby against safety for your future babies -- and that's a perfectly valid (and tough) dilemma. I'm sure the high risk OB will be able to shed more light on it for you. Oh, and I remembered one from our class: the midwife was explaining how the cervix "dissolves" and then starts to open, and that they wait for it to be open 10 cm. One girl in the class said "Oh, is THAT what they're talking about about being open! I thought it was the vagina opening up!" She and her partner seemed to be about 17 years old or something, so I can forgive her for being a bit out of place when the rest of us were in our 30s. Surprising that she piped up, though.
Teagz -- there's often a decrease or stopping of bleeding when you lie down and an increase when you get up, and maybe it's just a form of that you're experiencing. The blood pools up while you're resting and then all that pooled up stuff gushes out when you get active. They say that this is why some people mistakenly believe that bedrest prevents a threatened miscarriage, because women experience that they bleed less if they lie down. There's also different opinions about whether your first AF after a miscarriage is heavier/longer or lighter than a normal AF, people don't seem to be able to agree on that. But the best thing as always is to ask your doctor if you're concerned, and ABSOLUTELY if you have any unusual pain or discharge and such.
Diana -- I'm sorry to hear you haven't ovulated. It sounds like IVF is going to be a good option for you, and will help you feel more in control.
Jo -- I think it's great that you guys were open and honest at your ante-natal class. I mentioned our loss to ours as well, when we were talking about how we're supposed to know what we want for the birth when we're all first-timers. There was a silence that for a while, but I explained that I brought it up because it helped me realize that the most important thing I need from the staff at the birth, and from my DH to help me enforce, is INFO INFO INFO. Don't touch me without telling me what you're about to do and why, and don't put any electrodes on me or test me for anything without saying whether things are going well or not so well, etc. They all thought it was a good point and we moved on from there, and it felt good for me to have said it.
And last but definitely not least -- Laney! I'm so happy that it was good news (even though, like Rozzie said, I felt in my heart that it would be)! I'm glad to hear you were able to have a few smiles, as I know you need them. A relatively short wait of 2 weeks until the next scan, so onwards and upwards toward that next wave of good news!
to you.
I hope the IVF works out for you and try and relax and enjoy yourself on the coast before you have to deal with not drinking and morning sickness!!!
I had to laugh, btw, about you getting up at exactly 4:16 every day to use the toilet. Mine is 3:53 AM, has been the whole pregnancy! You might be on to something there!
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