Trying to Conceive after Stillbirth/Recurrent Miscarriage/Late Loss

[Miss.B]

Oh Megan, don't be too hard on yourself hun . Sometimes things are just out of our control. I'm sorry you might have missed the boat this month, BUT, just for your information (and I still find this quite unbelievable) my best friend's SIL and her husband were going through a really rough patch, and they DTD when she had AF and guess what......she got preggo. My bestie and I just couldn't believe it as were were both trying to get pregnant and timing our O times and so forth, and bang, SIL got pregnant at such a rediculous time in her cycle. SIL swears she got preggo that time, as it was the first time they DTD after a few weeks of being separated....There you go, there is chance for us at any time in our cycle!!!!!!!!

[helle]

Thanks for all the confort girls. You really are all amazing
I played the "I'm young card" again, and I've learnt my lesson. My hopes are staying firmly planted on the ground next time around! Spent yesterday with mum, got my aunty to dye my hair a rather light shade of blonde (which I'm going to regret when I actually do end up falling pg!) and ate naughty cheeses
Today DF sat down and watched desperate housewives with me (mum lent me her box set!) And then took me out for lunch at my fave cafe. So I've had quite a good mopey weekend, although I feel like the size of a house now

First, Lan, before I forget your CD8! I hope you're getting prepared for all your BDing in the next few days! Are you doing anything special for Valentines Day?? Now that I have to wait another 2 weeks I'm appointing myself your O motivational coach and living vicariously through you, I hope you don't mind XD Only kidding. But I'm definately here for extra encouragement
Sorry hun. I did lose the plot. I sat up all friday night bawling my eyes out ^^; Now I just feel very determined for next month, albiet a little ripped off, I hear alot of stories about people falling pg without barely trying after a D&C. Yep still on folic acid, I never stopped after Jayvan as we both agreed we wanted to TTC again ASAP. I have started taking fishoil tablets as well, so I guess on the bright side it will give those a few extra weeks to do their magic

Beata, gosh how lucky for your SIL! To bad DF goes woozey at the sight of blood XD How's your belly feeling? Is your scar going down?

Meagan, you never ever know! But don't get your hopes up to high... But don't lose faith either You being OS was completely out of your control so don't be to hard on yourself.

DD, how are you doing with those injections today?

I still have this bloody cold! 3 wees now. My Dr thinks I may be alergic to something and is giving me a blood test to see, he wasn't going to do it til I was pg again, so I could just do all the bloods at once but I think I might ask him to do it early. I don't want to be putting up with this every 4 weeks!

Hope everyone had a nice lazy weekend xx

[Miss.B]

Teagz, you always make me smile while reading your posts.....you are a funny girl! Good on you for doing all those things you enjoy, even though you would have preffered that BFP this month! You are right though, you are a spring chicken (unlike me) so there's plenty of time for you dear. Yum, I love all cheeses...and I love desperate housewives too! Don't worry about colouring your hair, apparently it's safe to do even when you're preggo.
Good idea to get those bloods done, maybe you are allergic to something...? Hope this terrible cold goes away soon. Have you ever tried garlic and horseraddish tablets? I take them daily, as I suffer from colds and sinuses, and they work a treat. I don't get sick as often now, I've been taking them for the last 2 years. AFM belly is healing OK, got more sensations around the scar, but it's still raised and I wonder when it's gonna finally flatten out....

Diana, how did you go today with your jab? Been thinking about you this weekend, I'm hoping all went smoothly for you.

I have been pretty down today watching all these poor people on the telly who have lost their homes in the fires in Victoria. So tragic, I can't get these images out of my head. I just wish I could turn the clock back for them, my heart just breaks watching all their houses burned down. In August last year, I went with my DH and my BF and her hubby to Marrysville for a weekend of massages and pampering (I was still pregnant with Joshua, it was a very special weekend to remember). It was my first visit there ever. I now heard on the news that almost the entire small town has burned down and I just felt so sad. All the people there were so lovely, it just broke my heart. So far 76 people have been confirmed dead in the fires, God rest their souls. What a terrible way to die.

[helle]

Beata, by playing the young card I mean "I'm 20... I'll get pregnant like that! *snap fingers* I played it while I was pg as well, but in a more nothing-bad-could-possibly-happen-while-pregnant-at-my-age sort of way. Just goes to show age doesn't always have alot of say in things, and I think you have just as much chance at falling pregnant as I have. Whether it be through IVF or naturally, it doesn't matter.
And I Looooooove desperate house wives. To the point where I asked DF what he thought of the name Dylan for a girl XD To my sheer delight I got one of those "yeah i guess i could live with that half smile shrug things" ><;;

[Hammi]

Teagz, that's a great way to console yourself. I'm glad that your family knew just what you needed and looked after you. You're also entitled to cry hysterically too.

I am on CD9 today and I have a sore throat and feel kind of sorry for myself but have dedicated myself to pouncing on DH at the first sign of fertile CM :-) We don't usually celebrate Valentine's Day but I think we may celebrate O Day this year instead. Haha.

Megan, try not to beat yourself up about potentially missing O day. Remember, your baby will come to you when s/he is ready so if this is the month, FF may just be wrong. Sometimes FF moves the O date anyway!

Hi to everyone!

[dd0207]

Teagz, sorry that b*tch showed up. I'm with you on having to watch other people's kids. I have friends famous for letting their kids run wild and they sit back and say nothing. My furnishings at home are basically all white and I now refuse to get anything coloured for them to eat or drink as they make such a mess. I really love them and it's not their fault but it still makes me mad.

Dee, best of luck with IVF this month. We may get our BFPs together, Those comments are just awful Dee, and DH's family is just ignorant for making them. Please don't let them get you down, surround yourself with positive, helpful people during this time.

Jo, congratulations on passing your test. You are passing everything with flying colours this pregnancy and it won't be long until you hold your little girl. Your ticket is flying! How absolutely fabulous that you don't need any more cervix scans. Must be a nerve wracking decision to make whether to get some lovin'

Cindee, how are you doing luv? I hope bubs will hang in there for a little longer. Thinking of you

Megan, there is still a chance as you BD on one of your fertile days, and as you once said to me, it only takes one little swimmer! Got everything crossed for you. I also hope you remain naive when it comes to IVF and go on to have healthy, wonderful natural pregnancies. To answer your question, the injections are to grow numerous eggs which go for about 12 days, then a final trigger shot then in for egg collection - this process takes about 14 days. Then they let my eggs fertilise with DH's sperm, then grow them for 5 days before transferring one back in. The rest go to the freezer for future use.

Theresa, good luck with your scan. How exciting to be seeing your little lamb.

Beata, hope you're battling the heat ok. We have had some really hot nights in Sydney too and I have been sleeping on and off and waking up in sweats also. Doesn't help when you have AF as well. I take a washcloth to bed that I dampen and put in the freezer for a bit, then mop myself up if the heat wakes me. It helps, try it. Actually, now that I think about it, that's probably how I got this awful cold - so maybe don't try it Hang in there sweets, it's cooling down a little.

Very very sad about what's happening down in Victoria. DH and I watched it all weekend and I was so emotional for those poor people. My heart really goes out to them.

Lan, CD9 for both of us and you should be gearing up for some serious action soon right? Me, I told DH I don't want to see his p*nis this month I know it's slack but I just need a break!!! Hope you're doing ok. Did you have a nice day off on Friday? What are your plans for today?

Afm, started my injections last night, pretty easy really. Blood test on Friday to see how I'm traveling and hopefully go in for egg collection next Wednesday - BRING IT ON

Hello to everyone else. Hope you are all doing ok.

PS: Anyone know how to change your "mood" - there used to be a drop down in the right hand corner but it has gone for me.

[helle]

DD, I saw a thread a couple of days ago saying that Admin took the moods thing off to free up space on the server. Sorry lovee

[Miss.B]

Teagz, thanks hun I love your positivity. I guess what I was trying to say that, although if anything is going to go wrong, it will go wrong despite what age you are, but I wish I had age on my side as the older you are, the risks with miscarriage and complication tends to be higher as the woman's eggs age too. Saying that, my OB doesn't think my eggs are old or crusty (as I always put it) he always tells me off for thinking this way .

Oh Lan, sounds like a lot of girls are sick ATM! Must be the changes in weather. I like your determination (despite not feeling well) to pounce on hubby. Go girl!!!!!! I truly hope you get your BFP this time around!!!!

Diana, I am so riding the IVF wave with you right now (and Dee too!). I'm so glad the jabs are a breeze like they were for me. I remember the jabs went so quick and then it was time for egg collection, so it certainly doesn't take that long! Must be so exciting to finally have some sort of control in getting those eggies produced. I always felt that IVF is very much in the hands of the docs, and therefore not in your control, but you have taken control of doing something about it, ie the IVF treatment, and that must feel positive in some way. At least you're not sitting there and waiting around to see if you've ovulated...

Cindee, I hope you're going OK hun, and the bub is staying put for a while longer

I just watched the midday movie and cried myself silly, this will be a daily ritual for me as they often put on soppy midday movies on (now that the tennis is over). Just what I need, a good cry to get all my emotions out this week.

Hi to my other lovely friends, I'm wishing you all a good week

PS I'm stuck on the 'hot' mood thingy....as Teagz said we're all stuck until they get a new server....

Love & hugs
Beata xxx

[dd0207]

Thanks Teagz & Beata, did some searching and found the mood thread. I'm stuck being Blah when I don't want to be - I want to be breezy or optimistic or I'm going to be pregnant next week ...

Beata, thanks for your enthusiasm, it really helps and it won't be long until I am supporting you through yours!

[helle]

The next person to tell me that everything will be better once I'm pregnant again gets a swift kick in the knee cap!


Aaah, thanks I need that vent!

ETA: Just thought I'd let you know that one of the girls from my old EDD thread (https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...-new-post.html) has said that Cindee has gone to JHH this morning for a scan and that she may be admitted and have her baby today. Fingers crossed everything goes ok. Praying for you Cindee, if you're able to read this!

[Zachary's Mom]

Hi ladies

Just a quick one....

I had my scan today and it was a huge relief!
I had a nightmare last night that we went to the scan and got told there was no heartbeat so I was freaking out all morning.
All is fine and bub had a of 170bpm and measures 2cm.
I don't want to carry on too much but just wanted to let you all know that everything went well.

Sending love and to you all.

[Miss.B]

Theresa, hooray for a great scan !!! I'm so happy for you hun, it must have been very exciting, but nerve wrecking (especially after your dream!) and emotional to hear your bub's heart beat. 2 cm, how gorgeous is that! It's a little peanut! Good on you hun, keep up the good work .

Teagz, have you heard anything more about Cindee? I pray to God she and her bub are OK and everything goes well for them. Keep us updated hun!

[Joselyn]

Hello Diana,

I was blown away when I noticed that you were still trying, had gone away to get your mind off it etc... I had contemplated assisted reproductive but thought it was a little premature. So I have to ask (for advice only) - what brought you to that decision? I am finding the whole TTC thing very very painful and emotionally draining. Each month I tell myself, (doing about 14 bloody pregnancy tests) that "next month, I'm not trying anymore!" But we all know that when our AF has left the building and its Ovulation time - it's impossible not to try!So I am really interested to ask about this stuff you have to sniff, why you decided to get on it etc... I am sorry if I am prying a little too much - I just felt from the very beginning that you and I were very similar in our experiences... the timing of it all, the same circumstances etc... Now the fact that you too have had a rough trot on the TTC path, makes me feel as though I can really relate. I have tried Chinese medicine, maybe baby, ovulation POS tests, I'm going out of my mind and you know the first thing everyone says is to "stop trying so hard"!!! Also, if my husband and I have to go away to another B&B around melbourne, we'll not have seen it all but we'll have no money left! lol

On top of this, two of my brothers and their wives have announced they're pregnant and I know my bro in law and his wife and going to be next. Its like a ticking time bomb... Rahhhh I hate this feeling!!! So tell me all about this sniffy stuff. I'm keen to hear all about your experiences etc...

Also, BTW - I am hopeless at navigating this site - I have tried to IM you but it says I don't have access.

I hope you bring me good news next time we chat - all the best for your journey. Love Joselyn. xx

New thread already! Gee we must be talking up a storm in here lately.

Theresa OMG, 7 days late! That's super positive isn't it? Have you ever been this late before? I want to be selfish too and say please test tomorrow morning... but do it when you're ready.

Tildy how wonderful that all is in check with you and Kebab. It certainly does sound like you're making a great one!

Paula, I'm technically still 22 days pregnant today. I don't start the actual injections for another 2 weeks or so - after a blood test to rule out pregnancy so I'm still in the game!
Yeah, what exams are you doing? I think you should give the drawing a go soon. Would be interesting to see how it turns out, especially if you say you can't draw and she thinks you will be able to do it.

Hello to everyone else. Hope you are all doing well x

[sryan]

Theresa,

What absolutely fantastic news .

I am so happy for you and DH.

Hoping all goes well for the rest of the pregnancy.

Yippee

xxx Sue xxx

[bub1]

Hi all, im new to this thread.
Glad to hear that it wasnt only me stuck with my mood and not able to change it.
I had my second M/C just over a week now.... My family has been very supportive, DH and I are trying to get over it! Why us? we ask all our friends are due around the same time as well as my brother in-law. Our in-laws have been extra supportive because of that matter, they had been waiting and were so excited when we told them we were expecting after our 1st m/c my mother inlaw would come over everyday to check up on me and my father in law for the first time couldnt stop crying. Its good to see that they are still so supportive and understand how hard its been for us. They are praying for us to heal and hopefully fall pregnant soon again our baby means the world to them they have seen and been throught the pain with us.

How long has did it take you guys for fall pregnant again after m/c ?

[Miss.B]

Hi bub1, and welcome to BB and our very special thread . I want to tell you how very sorry I am to hear about the losses of your two precious little angels, there is nothing more heart breaking in the world. All the girls here are amazing, strong and beautiful women, we are all here to support you in this difficult time.
I am so glad you've got heaps of support from your in laws, they sound so lovely and caring, you are very lucky.
We are all here for you and feel your pain. I will keep your little angels in my prayers.
Love and big hugs
Beata xxx

[helle]

Hi Bub1, Welcome to our thread I'm sorry you have to be hear but these ladies are all amazingly supportive. As for how long it takes to fall PG again, most of us are still TTC, I don't think you can really put a time frame on it (and for the sake of your sanity its probably better not to, easier said than done though...) I wish you all the luck in the world in your TTC journey and hope we can all help you through it somehow

Sue, *waves* Hiii, how're you going?

Theresa, What great news for your scan! Nice strong heart beat you have there! I think you're having a girl tee hee

Beata, I haven't heard anything more from Cindee. The girls in my old BB EDD thread are stalking her facebook page though as her DH is sending through updates but nothing new has come in. :Pray: Hope everything is going ok. How is your tumtum?

DD, How're you doing with your jabs? Does any of the stuff you have to use make you feel yucky at all?

AFM, Went the Dr's (AKA My Second Home, my GP and I are almost on first name basis). I have a temp, a rattle in my chest and a very red sore throat and no sick leave but I've now finally got some antibiotics to hopefully fixmeup!! About time!
I hate AF, she's being particularly painful today, but nothing a nurofin won't fix. Surely just having AF is enough, why does pain have to be incorporated in with it, bugger it!

Bring on the weekend! xx

[dd0207]

Hi Joselyn, I'm glad you found me and this wonderful thread. I am so very sorry you are struggling and I hope you find support and comfort here amongst us.

Sorry for the long post but will try to mention a bit of everything...

There were a few factors that led to my decision to undergo IVF. Firstly, my cycles after losing Sebastian have become very irregular and it seems I am ovulating too late to achieve pregnancy naturally at the moment. Secondly, my emotional state was being seriously compromised month after unsuccessful month and I would sob uncontrollably in my specialist's office every time AF arrived so he thought it was time for some action. My age also played a little part in this decision as I am 38.

Before taking the big IVF step however, my specialist thought we should try less invasive methods to try help things along so I tried Clomid tablets for a month which brought my ovulation date to around day 16, however it dried up my cervical mucous which made the environment "down there" hostile to sperm. I then tried follicle stimulating hormone injections with IUI (intra-uterine insemination) where they wash your partner's sperm to collect good, strong swimmers which are then injected into your uterus, bypassing your cervix. When both failed, and I hit rock bottom with a huge thud again, my specialist encouraged me to do IVF even though he was sure we would eventually fall naturally again. He basically gave me the option to either give myself the best chance of falling pregnant soon, or keep trying naturally for another 6 months or so in the hope my cycle would regulate.

It wasn't an easy decision at first but after much thought and discussion with DH, we knew we wanted a baby and we wanted to do whatever gave us the best chance, and that was IVF for us at this point. More than anything, it know it was my emotional well-being that ultimately led us to make this decision.

As for the treatment - because my cycles are so irregular now, I use a nasal spray called Synarel twice a day to suppress my own natural hormones - this is to ensure I don't ovulate on my own and my specialist can control what's going on in there. I started injections on Sunday night which I do for about 9-12 days and this is used to grow numerous big beautiful eggs. Fingers crossed I go for egg retrieval next Wednesday where they will fertilise my eggs, let them grown in the lab for about 5 days, then transfer one back in. Then God willing, I will be pregnant! Any left over babies will go into the freezer for future use. I know a lot of people find IVF hard and intrusive, but so far so good for me. Don't know how I will feel as I move on with the treatment but at the moment it's fine. I am also doing acupuncture as I have heard the success rate is higher with the two combined.

We have had a big discussion in here about "not trying" and you will find all of can relate to your frustration. It is very easy for others to say this but in reality we are consumed by counting cycle days, inspecting bodily secretions and jumping bones around ovulation time, even when we don't feel like it and I found it put an enormous strain on my relationship.

Is your cycle back to normal after losing your precious angel? Is there a reason to suspect you won't fall naturally again? Not sure how long it took you to fall pregnant with your precious daughter but I know you have been trying for a little while now and can totally relate to your frustration and emotions - we all can infact.

Joselyn, the decision is big and very personal but if you are considering treatment, I suggest you get a referral to see a specialist and have a good, long chat. I will try to answer any questions you have and there are a few others on here that have gone through IVF as well and are so wonderfully supportive.

Take good care of yourself and I am here for you anytime. Please stay with us on your journey if you feel up to it.

Will be back with persies soon girls x