Trying to Conceive after Stillbirth/Recurrent Miscarriage/Late Loss

[Joselyn]

Hello Diana,

I was blown away when I noticed that you were still trying, had gone away to get your mind off it etc... I had contemplated assisted reproductive but thought it was a little premature. So I have to ask (for advice only) - what brought you to that decision? I am finding the whole TTC thing very very painful and emotionally draining. Each month I tell myself, (doing about 14 bloody pregnancy tests) that "next month, I'm not trying anymore!" But we all know that when our AF has left the building and its Ovulation time - it's impossible not to try!So I am really interested to ask about this stuff you have to sniff, why you decided to get on it etc... I am sorry if I am prying a little too much - I just felt from the very beginning that you and I were very similar in our experiences... the timing of it all, the same circumstances etc... Now the fact that you too have had a rough trot on the TTC path, makes me feel as though I can really relate. I have tried Chinese medicine, maybe baby, ovulation POS tests, I'm going out of my mind and you know the first thing everyone says is to "stop trying so hard"!!! Also, if my husband and I have to go away to another B&B around melbourne, we'll not have seen it all but we'll have no money left! lol

On top of this, two of my brothers and their wives have announced they're pregnant and I know my bro in law and his wife and going to be next. Its like a ticking time bomb... Rahhhh I hate this feeling!!! So tell me all about this sniffy stuff. I'm keen to hear all about your experiences etc...

Also, BTW - I am hopeless at navigating this site - I have tried to IM you but it says I don't have access.

I hope you bring me good news next time we chat - all the best for your journey. Love Joselyn. xx

New thread already! Gee we must be talking up a storm in here lately.

Theresa OMG, 7 days late! That's super positive isn't it? Have you ever been this late before? I want to be selfish too and say please test tomorrow morning... but do it when you're ready.

Tildy how wonderful that all is in check with you and Kebab. It certainly does sound like you're making a great one!

Paula, I'm technically still 22 days pregnant today. I don't start the actual injections for another 2 weeks or so - after a blood test to rule out pregnancy so I'm still in the game!
Yeah, what exams are you doing? I think you should give the drawing a go soon. Would be interesting to see how it turns out, especially if you say you can't draw and she thinks you will be able to do it.

Hello to everyone else. Hope you are all doing well x

[sryan]

Theresa,

What absolutely fantastic news .

I am so happy for you and DH.

Hoping all goes well for the rest of the pregnancy.

Yippee

xxx Sue xxx

[bub1]

Hi all, im new to this thread.
Glad to hear that it wasnt only me stuck with my mood and not able to change it.
I had my second M/C just over a week now.... My family has been very supportive, DH and I are trying to get over it! Why us? we ask all our friends are due around the same time as well as my brother in-law. Our in-laws have been extra supportive because of that matter, they had been waiting and were so excited when we told them we were expecting after our 1st m/c my mother inlaw would come over everyday to check up on me and my father in law for the first time couldnt stop crying. Its good to see that they are still so supportive and understand how hard its been for us. They are praying for us to heal and hopefully fall pregnant soon again our baby means the world to them they have seen and been throught the pain with us.

How long has did it take you guys for fall pregnant again after m/c ?

[Miss.B]

Hi bub1, and welcome to BB and our very special thread . I want to tell you how very sorry I am to hear about the losses of your two precious little angels, there is nothing more heart breaking in the world. All the girls here are amazing, strong and beautiful women, we are all here to support you in this difficult time.
I am so glad you've got heaps of support from your in laws, they sound so lovely and caring, you are very lucky.
We are all here for you and feel your pain. I will keep your little angels in my prayers.
Love and big hugs
Beata xxx

[helle]

Hi Bub1, Welcome to our thread I'm sorry you have to be hear but these ladies are all amazingly supportive. As for how long it takes to fall PG again, most of us are still TTC, I don't think you can really put a time frame on it (and for the sake of your sanity its probably better not to, easier said than done though...) I wish you all the luck in the world in your TTC journey and hope we can all help you through it somehow

Sue, *waves* Hiii, how're you going?

Theresa, What great news for your scan! Nice strong heart beat you have there! I think you're having a girl tee hee

Beata, I haven't heard anything more from Cindee. The girls in my old BB EDD thread are stalking her facebook page though as her DH is sending through updates but nothing new has come in. :Pray: Hope everything is going ok. How is your tumtum?

DD, How're you doing with your jabs? Does any of the stuff you have to use make you feel yucky at all?

AFM, Went the Dr's (AKA My Second Home, my GP and I are almost on first name basis). I have a temp, a rattle in my chest and a very red sore throat and no sick leave but I've now finally got some antibiotics to hopefully fixmeup!! About time!
I hate AF, she's being particularly painful today, but nothing a nurofin won't fix. Surely just having AF is enough, why does pain have to be incorporated in with it, bugger it!

Bring on the weekend! xx

[dd0207]

Hi Joselyn, I'm glad you found me and this wonderful thread. I am so very sorry you are struggling and I hope you find support and comfort here amongst us.

Sorry for the long post but will try to mention a bit of everything...

There were a few factors that led to my decision to undergo IVF. Firstly, my cycles after losing Sebastian have become very irregular and it seems I am ovulating too late to achieve pregnancy naturally at the moment. Secondly, my emotional state was being seriously compromised month after unsuccessful month and I would sob uncontrollably in my specialist's office every time AF arrived so he thought it was time for some action. My age also played a little part in this decision as I am 38.

Before taking the big IVF step however, my specialist thought we should try less invasive methods to try help things along so I tried Clomid tablets for a month which brought my ovulation date to around day 16, however it dried up my cervical mucous which made the environment "down there" hostile to sperm. I then tried follicle stimulating hormone injections with IUI (intra-uterine insemination) where they wash your partner's sperm to collect good, strong swimmers which are then injected into your uterus, bypassing your cervix. When both failed, and I hit rock bottom with a huge thud again, my specialist encouraged me to do IVF even though he was sure we would eventually fall naturally again. He basically gave me the option to either give myself the best chance of falling pregnant soon, or keep trying naturally for another 6 months or so in the hope my cycle would regulate.

It wasn't an easy decision at first but after much thought and discussion with DH, we knew we wanted a baby and we wanted to do whatever gave us the best chance, and that was IVF for us at this point. More than anything, it know it was my emotional well-being that ultimately led us to make this decision.

As for the treatment - because my cycles are so irregular now, I use a nasal spray called Synarel twice a day to suppress my own natural hormones - this is to ensure I don't ovulate on my own and my specialist can control what's going on in there. I started injections on Sunday night which I do for about 9-12 days and this is used to grow numerous big beautiful eggs. Fingers crossed I go for egg retrieval next Wednesday where they will fertilise my eggs, let them grown in the lab for about 5 days, then transfer one back in. Then God willing, I will be pregnant! Any left over babies will go into the freezer for future use. I know a lot of people find IVF hard and intrusive, but so far so good for me. Don't know how I will feel as I move on with the treatment but at the moment it's fine. I am also doing acupuncture as I have heard the success rate is higher with the two combined.

We have had a big discussion in here about "not trying" and you will find all of can relate to your frustration. It is very easy for others to say this but in reality we are consumed by counting cycle days, inspecting bodily secretions and jumping bones around ovulation time, even when we don't feel like it and I found it put an enormous strain on my relationship.

Is your cycle back to normal after losing your precious angel? Is there a reason to suspect you won't fall naturally again? Not sure how long it took you to fall pregnant with your precious daughter but I know you have been trying for a little while now and can totally relate to your frustration and emotions - we all can infact.

Joselyn, the decision is big and very personal but if you are considering treatment, I suggest you get a referral to see a specialist and have a good, long chat. I will try to answer any questions you have and there are a few others on here that have gone through IVF as well and are so wonderfully supportive.

Take good care of yourself and I am here for you anytime. Please stay with us on your journey if you feel up to it.

Will be back with persies soon girls x

[dd0207]

Hi bub1, welcome to our thread. I am so very sorry for your losses and I hope you find some comfort and support amongst us I am glad you have such a supportive family who are helping you through this hard and emotional time. As for how long it takes to conceive again, as Teagz said, most of us are still trying but I hope and pray your journey with us is short.

Theresa, YAY for a wonderful scan result So very happy for you. 2cm! How cute.

Teagz, injections are going fine. Can't believe how easy it is actually. I do get little bruises at the jab site but it really doesn't hurt. Hope you get better soon luv. I'm still battling with my cold but I'm not allowed to take antibiotics because of the meds I'm on -panadol only, and fat lot of good that's going to do.

Hope Cindee and baby are ok. Saying a prayer

Hiya Sue!

Beata, how are you hun?

NaeNae, I am so very sorry for another loss and I really hate to say welcome back. I wish you didn't have to find yourself here again but we are all here to comfort and support you. Sending you big hugs and take good care of yourself. I hope your journey with us is short.

Anyone heard from Paula? Infact all our pregnant mammas have been very quiet lately. Hope you're all well.

Lots of love and big hugs to all x

[Berry1]

Welcome Bub 1, like the other girls, I am sorry that you have to be here and for the loss of your two angels and hope that your journey to ttc and carrying a baby to full term is a short one.

Nae Nae, sorry that you have to join this thread again, but great that you felt you could come back in here. Also hi to Joselyn, I hope that your bub is not far away.

Theresa, great news on the scan and the strong heart beat. Isn't it amazing that at 2cm there is a heart beat. So incredible.

Teagz, hope you get better soon

Beata, I must say that its so great having you in here as you are so supportive to everyone

I hope Cindee and little one is ok. thanks for keeping us updated Teagz.

I agree that the preggo's have been quiet, hope everyone is ok, check-in so we know your ok

AFM, well FF did change the cross hairs and it is as I thought, O'ed on Sat, so I'm still in for a chance this cycle . Must say there wasn't as much action as usual going on given I was away, but at least there's a chance.

I sympathise with those who find it hard when friends and family around them seem to be falling pg at the drop of a hat! So many people around me are at the moment are pg or there partner is and it is really hard somedays. I should be finishing work around now and Jasmine should be born next month, it just seems quite unfair doesn't it. Anyway, need to try and look forward and hope for a BFP soon.

Hope everyone is well. Paula, I'm particuarly concerned about not hearing from you, please say hi.

[Joselyn]

Hi Diana,

Thank you so much for taking the time to explain your situation to me. I have found this experience to be a very lonely one emotionally. My beautiful sister has been so supportive, but not only can she not really understand - I am not sure she can handle me going on and on about how difficult this is for me. The negative results each month, the different strategies, the "I'm ok" this week and the "I can't do this anymore" the next. It's difficult for the support people in our lives also.

I understand entirely your decision to get assistance with falling pregnant. I considered it but have come to the conclusion that I will give it till six months. At that point I will meet with my OB/GYN to get some tests done etc... How do you know if you are ovulating late? My periods are right on track, 28 days on the knocker (sometimes day early). But just because I am getting my period, that doesn't necessarily mean I am ovulating does it? God I hope I don't sound like a fool - I'm not all that good with this pregnancy stuff. A cruel reality is that I only tried for two months with Grace - but I fear the emotional stress I am going through is stopping my body from allowing things to happen for us. But it is a vicious cycle...

Can anyone advise me about how I would know if I am ovulating late? If my cycles are right on track, is that all I need to know?

Thanks Diana and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this.

Sending out heaps of luck to all the girls in this room. And I have really good feelings about this time for you too Diana.

Love Joselyn xx