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  1. #1
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    Oh Deb, I am so sorry. My thoughts are with you and I hope that the increase in Clomid is just what you need. I understand that you need some time.
    Last edited by Lynn; March 29th, 2007 at 03:54 PM.

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    Dec 2006
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    Hi girls,

    Deb - I am sorry to hear you got a BFN. Hopefully your OB can sort something so you can get that positive next month.

    Clare - I can't believe that they mixed your scans. How horrible that must have been for you. Good luck at next weeks scan. Obviously you will just be happy to find that bubs is healthy, but are you hoping for either sex in particular? That's great you have found a good GP that you can get lot's of reassurance from.

    Mel - Sorry about the BFN. BUT, it is still a little early isn't it?? Don't give up yet. I am sure I will get a BFN too. Getting the usual AF symptoms, bad skin etc. Oh well! I am not sure what you should do about the party. I would probably just go ahead and just RSVP and then see how you feel on the day. If you are like me, the way you feel can change just like that. I think that maybe that is a good idea to ease into it and do the smaller dinner first. Thats how i did it. % weeks after we lost Asha I was invited to a friends 30th and I just said to her that I would say yes for now but decide on the day. Then a couple of days before it i just got a couple of the girls to come over for a bit just to get it out of the way I guess. And that worked for me, I got all the uncomfortable bits out of the way first and than I was better able to relax a couple of days later at the party - well until an aquaintance came up and screeched "oh you've had it, what did you have?" in front of everyone. There was a deathly silence, poor bugger, she started bawling when someone pulled her aside and told her and she left early. I don;t think she's been the same since, lol. Who knows, maybe you will feel like having a drink and a night out. And, if it gets to the day and you don;t feel like going, well stuff what any one else thinks, don't go. You are entitled. Maybe when these friends get further into their pregnancy they will be able to look back and appreciate what you have been and are going through. Whatever you decide, just make sure you do what you want to do.

    Spring - Thanks for you messages last night, I read them but I didn't reply cos I was a bit blubbery, lol. I decided to grab my little would-be baby napper and go and snuggle in bed with him. Has MIL called again? Glad to hear you are not letting it get to you.

    Lynn - How are you doing today? I also found that somethings are getting harder. You are so right about the many 'firsts' I think not being pregnant adds to that feeling. It is just so frustrating isn't it? Are you getting some blood test's tommorrow? Hopefully there will be some egg activity for you.

    Hi to Nat, Klee and Chelle too!!

    3 more days of work till I am off on my holiday. I was just researching our hotel on the internet to make sure they have intenet there and hooray!! they do, so I will be able to stay in the loop to hear about everyones BFP's.

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    Flowerchild: You have every right to feel flat about your BFN. I am sorry babe, I am glad that your FS is trying other things to get that magical BFP. Take all the time you need but don't stay away too long, we will miss you too much:hugs:

    Mel: Hmm, that's a tough one. I agree with the girls, just see how you are feeling on the day. I totally know what you mean about people gushing over pregnant women / babies. Remember the wedding I went to in December, everyone was going crazy over my friends baby and pretended that nothing was different with me. It upset me so much and I remember being so angry. I don't know how far away their house is, but you could always say you will go for a drink, and if when you get there you are having a good time, you can stay. I agree with Clare, I would judge how it goes at the dinner before making a decision about the 30th.

    Lynn: Did you get to speak to the FS today? Good luck with your bloods tomorrow. I can't remember if you are having a scan also, but I really hope that you finally get some good news. Boy do you deserve it.

    Clare: So great to hear from you. I hope that your 'reassure the nutcase' scan goes well next week and that you find out if it is a spoldge or a splodgette (lol). I had one of those crazy women scans on Tuesday. I told my Ob that we needed to see eachother more often and he laughed and said, I am glad you missed me so much. I just missed that ultrasound machine. I even asked how much they cost but I don't have a spair 30K to blow.

    Klee: You are doing exactly what you need to do honey, just survive day by day. I remember in those early days I would forget that I would need to go to the toilet, then get a pain in my tummy and realised I hadn't done a wee all day. Your body sort of stops functioning but trust me, the cloud will slowly lift and you will have the courage to look for the light at the end of the tunnel again.

    Bailey: Whoo Hoo only 3 days left of work. That is sensational. I am very envious. (lol) about there being internet in the hotel.. I think it is great that you can keep up with the BB gang but we will understand if you are otherwise occupied

    Well, MIl hasn't tried to call yet thank god which is lucky for her because I am in a fould mood. I am off to Canberra for a conference tomorrow and should get maybe an hour with DH. I am just feeling really emotional today, just at the end of my teather. I am really worried that my work colleagues at the conference will speculate if I am pregnant. I got some new clothes that I think should hide any buldges. I am also peeved about my MIL and angry at our stupid tenants who are still causing grief. I know in the scheme of life it is all pretty un-important, but a girl deserves a whinge every now and then.

    Anyway sweeties, off to call DH and then I'll pop in before bed.

    Luv Spring

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    Dec 2006
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    Lil Spring - You are 15 weeks today!! Not long now til we all get to meet you

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    Oct 2005
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    HI everyone,
    Sorry I have been out of action but I am back now!
    LYnn: I am so so very sorry - follicles can look much like cysts - however it is unlikely that such a mistake was made. I am wondering if perhaps what is happening is that your follies are not maturing. This happens with low hormone levels - there sometimes isn't enough lutinising hormone produced and the little loves just shrivel up. It sounds like this to me. One of the treatments is clomid and the injectibles you have spoken of. A hcg trigger shot is given so that the follies release their eggs and then hopefully within a few cycles pregnancy occurs. This is just my take on what I feel may be happening but of course I can't know for sure. Big big hugs my love - it is so disheartening I know. I know what you mean about a baby for Christmas. I have had two Christmas's now without that baby to add to our family. Last Christmas was to be the last but it's not looking like that is going to be the case for me either... I picked up your stone yesterday and I will post it on Monday - I am hoping you will get it for Easter.

    Mel: I am sorry this isn't your month again. That poster was very insensitive and I know how much those words hurt. Mel, have you had your hormone levels checked? It isn't unusual to take some time for fertility to resume after birth. It's great that your DH is having a SA. I just wish I could give you a big hug. I know how disappointing it is to see another month pass. :hugs:

    Bailey: Yay at the internet connection on holidays - we won't miss out on you while you are gone and we can all have a little "cyber holiday" with you! Are you testing soon?

    Spring: You deserve this pregnancy and Lil Spring. Don't you waste any time feeling guilt at being pregnant. We will all get our chance - our journey's are all different. The timing is different for us all and the lessons we have to learn are unique to us all. We will all get there - you are the first cab off the rank - but there are lots more cabs to go. You just enjoy the miracle of your Lil Spring. We so much appreciate your love and support.

    Tommysmum and Klee: Welcome to this thread and I am so sorry for the deaths of your babies. I look forward to getting to know you. May your stay in here be short and sweet!

    Well I got my period yesterday I knew it was coming as I had tested and got bfn. My progesterone on 9dpo was 42 this month on 100mgs of clomid. Not so great. However, the peak is on 7po so, it is likely that the level was higher. I saw my gorgeous obs yesterday and left feeling good. Her take on it is that my fertility is working just fine - but with the lower prog. it is showing that I am probably only producing one follicle. As we all know (big sigh!) as you get older (I am 39 for those who don't know) egg quality is decreased. So, if you only produce 1 egg a cycle you have to wing it that that eggy is gorgeous. It would seem my eggs haven't been so gorgeous of late - possibly why we lost the pregnancy last month.:sad: .

    So, the plan is that we need to stimulate a few follies a cycle to give me the best chance. We are upping the clomid to 150mgs for the next 2 months with follie scans. If my follies are looking ripe we will do a trigger shot so that sex can be perfectly and religiously timed! So, this month I will have a follie scan the day after Easter Monday (cd12) and go from there. I don't have too many side effects on clomid (cranky but nothing much else) so let's hope I go okay.
    I always feel better with a plan so I am feeling good now. She is very positive and optimistic that it's a matter of time. So, I am going with that. Of course nothing is certain but I truly believe I will get there and I am not going to stop that belief. It is a bloody hard road though TTC after so many losses. So many babies that have been said goodbye to - it is really hard to be patient sometimes.
    My friend pregnant with twins and due around the same time as my last Angel was due had a show yesterday - it's very exciting. I will keep you posted. These little boys are very special - they are a reminder that life goes on. It is a hard time though knowing that I would be due too and instead I am trying to get pregnant!
    Anyway I am off now to do some jobs around the place. It's a lovely cool day here - looking like rain. I hope you all have a great Saturday - I will be back over the weekend.

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    Oct 2005
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    Pinch and a punch for the first day of the month!!!

  7. #7
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    GOT ME

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    LOL is that an April Fool's joke? Its after 12 now so you have to take it away

    Spring, yes my ticker does say it is CD1 and it is correct in terms of dates... but still waiting for AF to show - I still have a glimmer of hope that she wont but I know it is too good to be true and I remember last cycle she arrived in the evening so it will probably be the same this time. I dont have any AF symptoms this month though, which I wont complain about. Although I have a shocking headache today that actually started on our way home last night

    Well Mersyndol time for me

    Good luck in the kids section. If you change your mind on that, you could always go to the bookstore and get books instead of a voucher. Every kid I know that age loves books as long as they have lots of colour and even different textures (you know the ones that have foil and stuff over them) or sounds. And if you go for something like Wiggles or whatever all kids love that. My youngest step-daughter got one last year and she absolutely loved it. The other things she loved were those books that have the buttons on the side that you push for sound effects and you can get them with Sesame Street characters on them. My nephew had an Elmo one and she loved it so much.

  9. #9

    Oct 2005
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    Hello everyone!
    I have been MIA again - I am now the proud "adoptive Auntie" of twin boys born vaginally after about a 40 minute labour. First baby was born 15 minutes after arrival at hospy and the second ten minutes later! All well and gorgeous.
    Yes, it would appear I am still Kelly! They are big boots to fill and I am confused every time I look at it!!!!!!

    Bailey: I would really love to read the article you saw. Can you scan or could I email you my address so you could post it??? Would that be okay??? I hope you get your bfp this month my love...

    Mel: Have you tested today??? I am thinking of you. I know how tough the end of a cycle is if there has been no positive... I am thinking of you sweet woman.

    Nat: So great to see you again!!!! I have missed you a LOT! Tell me your news!
    Yep, if the clomid increase this month doesn't stimulate at least two follies then we will move it up a notch to FSH injections next cycle with a trigger shot. This month I am having a follie u/sound on cd12 and I am guessing another a couple of days later. If the follies are a good size on the second u/s I will have a trigger this month also. It just gives a more concentrated bding time frame! Tell me Nat how much clexane are you on 2500 or 4000?

    Chelle: How are things? Are you out there?

    Lynn: I posted your crystals today and I really hope you get them before Easter. I am so sorry about your results. I am glad you have an appointment tomorrow. Make sure you write down all of your questions - make the most of the time and pick his brains! I will be waiting to hear tomorrow and popping in and out. I am thinking of you and sending lots of love... :hugs:

    Tommysmum: I hope you find the support in here a help and may your journey be short and sweet.

    Spring: I can't believe that ticker. I hope that things are going better with the inlaws.
    I am sorry I have been away so much. It's going to settle down now I am sure!

    Well, I haven't stopped today, catching up after a busy couple of days. We have booked four days at Coolum Beach for Easter and I CAN"T WAIT! I begin my first 150mg dose of clomid tomorrow (cd5) I that this increase will stimulate "my girls" into some serious action! My last angel died in October but the journey has been going on since this time two years ago. I found I was pregnant just before my Evies first birthday and as you know she just had her third birthday last weekend. I am feeling better though now - I always feel really flat when I know it's another month without being pregnant - it takes a few days to get back up again...
    We just have to keep believing truly believing that there is another baby out there for us. There is!

    I will try to pop back later...

  10. #10
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    Dec 2006
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    Flowerchild - I actually meant to mention at the bottom of my last post that I can send you a copy. I don't have a scanner (and even if I did, I probably wouldn't be able to use it )but email me your address and I will send it on thursday when I am back at work. Oh, can you get my email address from admin? Or I can email it to you??

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    Evening Girls

    Deb Im glad your feeling better, It is so hard when a anniv comes around, try to be good to yourself over the next couple of days. Sounds like a wonderful couple of days comming up for you, Coolum is just so nice and relaxing just what you need to get those ov going. How very incredible being there for two births Ive been so lucky to witness my 4 N&N birth and I still can not get over that emotion, it would be something I could do everday! two at once....amazing!
    Im crossing all that with an increase of clomid you get big fat folllies with eggies, as for my clexcane 4000 once a day but after last visit he said he would increase it, maybe to once in morn and once a night? we will have to see.

    Lynn good luck tomorrow, go in there with a written list of questions I find this helps. I have my fingers crossed that you still might O. I will call you tomorrow. As for my dad well scans are being done on wed and thurs so we will know if it has spread Im praying that it hasnt.

    Bailey You know that pain could also be your overies producing hormones once pregnant! dont give up hope yet...have you tested? I didnt get the paper but I would love to read the article I will get you my email address or if Lynn wants to give you my address that would also be fine. what paper was it?

    Spring is it tomorrow you see little spring?

    Mel, chelle tommysmum and anyone else I hope your all doing OK, I will try and pop back in later after I recover my rice!!!! Hay Deb with this Natural killer thing, last night felt like s*%t yet today feeling 100 times better so very weird!

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    Bailey

    I just had four phones calls regards to that newspaper article, and one girlfriend just called in with it so thanks but I have a copy and I think I will be getting a whole lot more!!! Once again thank you so much for thinking of me. Luv nat

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    No worries,
    When I read it this morning, I thought of you right away cos I remember you telling us about it during our marathon lunch It look so promising, the lady interviewed has had a baby after I think 19 m/c's.

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    hi ladies, I haven't had a chance to catch up on the thread, but will have a read and post another later. Just wanted to let you know how the 6 week check went. Having mixed emotions, all blood results and Phoebe's results were fine which is relieving, but then I feel guilty thinking the way they describe the cord entanglement, surely I should have felt her slow down, but the thing is I didn't notice her slow only that she stopped altogether, which leads me to thinking that she must have had a slow one, something I can not handle. I'm sorry to bring the thread down, I just needed someone to hear it, as its hurting so much. I guess the old saying is true, one step forward, two (quite possibly more) steps back.

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    Oct 2005
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    Hi Klee :hugs:

    Klee, I can only imagine the pain you are feeling and at times like this words just seem so hollow - I can only say I am sorry... :hugs:

    Something I do know is that just because you didn't notice Phoebe's movemements slowing down it doesn't mean that her passing went slowly. Did you they tell you if she had an unusually long cord? Sometimes the baby does some flips and turns and gets entagled... YOu know there is absolutely nothing you could have done about it. That is bitter sweet knowledge I know. This was an accident a tragic accident but one that you had absolutely no control over.

    Sweetie, I am sending you lots of love and hugs... :hugs:

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    Oct 2005
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    Hi Klee :hugs:

    Klee, I can only imagine the pain you are feeling and at times like this words just seem so hollow - I can only say I am sorry... :hugs:

    Something I do know is that just because you didn't notice Phoebe's movemements slowing down it doesn't mean that her passing went slowly. Did you they tell you if she had an unusually long cord? Sometimes the baby does some flips and turns and gets entagled... YOu know there is absolutely nothing you could have done about it. That is bitter sweet knowledge I know. This was an accident a tragic accident but one that you had absolutely no control over.

    Sweetie, I am sending you lots of love and hugs... :hugs:

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    Oct 2005
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    Mel, I am sorry about your DH's swimmers. However, I believe there are some natural things that you can do. Zinc is really important for healthy sperm production, vitamins E and C and Folate along with b12 and b6. It certainly won't hurt and can only help so I would be heading to the healthfood shop! Folate should be taken with b12 and b6 - this aids effectivity and this combo is known to affect (in a healthy way) dna repair. I that in the next short while that bfp is coming your way. Yay about the house!!! That's exciting - we built the home we are in now and it was lot's of fun. I found it really enjoyable and we had a wonderful builder and a wonderful experience. I hope you have that too.

    Spring: Thinking of you today as you have your u/sound. Please come in and tell us how it all goes...

    Lynn: I am going to pop in and out to watch for your post. I am hoping that you get some answers and a plan today...

    Chelle: How are you???

    Bailey: I am hoping that you are having early pregnancy signs!

    I have some work to do today - the girls and I just finished playing barbies! Our second chookie has begun producing the goods so that's very exciting!
    It is a beautiful day here today so I am off outside for a while - I will be back!

  18. #18
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    Hi all,

    I hope everyone is well.
    My period is due in a few days and to be honest I really don't think I ovulated this month, which is unusual.
    ttc is hard enough as it is (it took 14mths to concieve our angel) plus we think that DH may have some problems (he's a type 1 diabetic) so I think I'm gonna be here for a long time!
    I really want to be pregnant, but i'm also terrified!

    Sorry for my whinge, just needed to get some things out, hope you don't mind!

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