So asked for a rise. To be told that even though In doing everything in pay brackets above me (which they acknowledged) pay rises r bases on how long I've been there for and I should be getting incremental increases each year. I've been on the same now since oct 2010. So going to double check it with the accounts ppl and go back am argue my point again. They did say they would increase my salary sacrifice though if I can't have a rise.