Grubi - not sure on his height but hes about 6.2 kg now
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Grubi - not sure on his height but hes about 6.2 kg now
Babywrangler, when you say solids, what do you mean? I am really tempted to give Daphne something, she just stares at us when we eat - we call her Mrs Jessop as she is so nosey about everything.
The other night we had fruit salad and we put a couple of pieces of fruit on her tongue just so she could taste it - she didnt seem to mind so I might start doing that in a few weeks before I start her on banana/avocado etc in a couple of months. Apparently my DH and I were put onto solids at 3 months but that was 34 years ago!! How does the thicker stuff go through the teats - the holes are so small!!
Zennie, how does Russell go eating from a spoon?
Oh my god how cute is Daphne!!!
Sorry, I meant Farex....we are sticking to just that at the moment as Benjamin seems happy with it.
Next step will be sweet potato (as I've been told that normal potato can be a little too starchy and can upset their digestion sometimes, and with BJs gut getting a workout from the zantac and gaviscon etc early on, we'll avoid any undue stress in that regard!!).
Will hold off on fruits etc for a while just so make sure he gets the taste for vegies first!
As for the olive branches...DH has given up....he's sick of it all!
Fair enough I say BW sometimes you just can't get through to people can you. I'd say sweet potato is a good option to start with being that it was in Fire's list of least allergenic.
Clueless not sure about how it gets through - think it is just thickening as opposed to solid when they do it that way, making it more like a thickmilkshake kind of deal as opposed to being like softserve - (bad analogy - but hopefully you understand). BTW I still think Fire is right babies don't know when they are supposed to do things, if Daphne is ready for solids go for it.
Zennie so he's not a big boy, just regular size.
We went out for a bit and DD was great the whole time, but hte minute we got back home - whingy :doh: What am I going to do? Might have to make a trip to Macca's and get DS a happy meal just to go out again. :lol:
As for things going through teats etc...I don't actually give Bj anything other than his formula through a teat.
He eats his farex off a spoon.
You can buy teats with bigger holes, or the ones like Sharon uses for Olivers thickened formula which have a cross on them...but you don't need a bottle for farex etc...just a spoon.
Well that outing didn't work - she screamed the whole time I was stuck in th edrive thru and DS was saying I want Panda toy repeatedly, but they have finished the Kung Fu Panda Promo now - so I had tears over that. I'm ready to tear all my hair out. Getting nothing done can't think with all this screaming and crying - she seems refluxy. Can't sit for too long or she'll really start again - so off to run around the loungeroom with her.
Grubi - :hug: to you - that sounds really frustrating. I am honestly in awe of those of you with more than one child - you are fabulous people and I :clap: you!
In regard to the MIL thing - I'm soooo lucky. My MIL is great (a complete dag, but great!). I actually invited her to the birth, but the hospital I was sent to would only allow 2 birth partners in at a time, so she volunteered to wait out in the 'family room' so that DH & SIL could be there. She's never made me feel bad for it (even though I am sorry she couldn't be there) and was thrilled to just be able to meet him 10 mins after he was born. She's always baking up stuff for us (muffins, sausage rolls, etc) so we've got more time to spend with DS and she visits regularly (and is always offering to babysit). It's her 7th grandchild - but the first to 'her little boy' - my DH. I see more of DH's family than mine, but that's because they're in the same town. I am finding it very interesting which of my friends have visited or kept in touch actually. Not at all what I would have expected prior to the birth... At least I know who my real friends are now! ;)
I'm looking forward to giving Liam farex as I think he'll enjoy it, but need to wait until I see the specialists at the cleft clinic in early Sept so they can 'teach' me how to feed them to him. If I just try doing it like you all do - it apparently just comes out his nose! That would be so cruel!!
**Double Post from other thread**
Liam's in a 'pattern change' - last night he fed at 6pm, fussed around until 8pm when he went to sleep (all of a sudden), we put him in his cot and he didn't wake until 4am!! DH went & checked on him a few times to make sure he was ok!! Then he had a feed, went back to sleep and woke at 8am happy as anything - talking & playing in his cot for 1/2 hour before he was ready for another feed. Through the day he was still on 2.5 - 3 hrly feeds, but he's had a feed at 7.30 pm tonight and we'll see how long he sleeps for... He's also been sleeping a lot which makes me think he's in (or getting ready for) a growth spurt.
Went out for a cuppa today with my manager (and friend) and we talked for about 2 hours... personal stuff (with a touch of work stuff!) - was lovely to catch up with her and I'll be going in to meet with her at work in the next few weeks to plan my 'comeback' in mid-September.
Also returned my breast pump this arvo :( I can still manually pump if I want to, but I haven't pumped for 3 days now (except to let some pressure out in the shower - a few squirts, that's all). I'm satisfied with what I've done though.
Can't wait for the weather to warm up so I can go out for longer walks. The cold is really messing up my plans! I'll be starting a diet next week however to try to shift some of this excess weight before my return to work - worried I won't fit in my work shirts!!
Hope everyone has a good weekend. I'm looking forward to seeing my sister & niece tomorrow. It's my Mum's birthday tomorrow and we usually try to get together for it (my Mum died in 1999) to 'celebrate'.
Ok, so quick question... before I head off to bed.
I got my first AF last month, and I normally go back to normal every month. But this month, and over due 5 days. Had anyone else AF been late when they came back? We have been having s*x again, thank god I so missed it, and the closeness. But am on BF pill... I can't be pregnant yet could I?
I want 4 kids but I want to enjoy Wyatt for aleast a year before we start trying again. Not that DH wants anymore kids, Wyatt was it for him, but not for me.
Please tell me this can be normal...
Talk to you all tomorrow morning
Cheers
Sarah
Clueless don't really think the Farex will make that much difference to sleeping through, what works for some babies, doesn't work for others. My BF was on Farex at 3 weeks of age, she was in an orphanage and because the didn't have time to bottle feed all the babies they all got fed farex pretty much straight away, if you think she is ready I say give it a try.
sarah don't worry, won't be long and bubs will have hair, I think there are a few baldies in here so you aren't alone. I think it can take a while for your hormones to get back on track, but if you are taking the mini pill you probably should be on time, I would go to Dr and check anyway.
Zennie what is your feeding routine, and how many bottles/how much formula is he having as well as the solids?
BabyWrangler i'm the same as you and I am going to hold off on the fruits for a while too.
Nettie enjoy your mum's birthday 'celebration' what a great thing to do. I am also hanging out for the warmer weather, i'm not a morning person at the best of times, but i'm even worse when it's freezing cold.
Had a fairly quiet few days, pretty boring really, nothing going on around here really. My ebay stuff finished tonight and I made $387, I am stoked! there was only 1 pair of pants that didn't sell, and they will be going to charity now.
Just quickly - Sarah last time I got Af back after less than 4 months and it wasn't regular until I went on a detox with the naturopath about 18 months later. As for the mini pill, believe you have to take it the same time everyday for it to be effective.
Got to run.
Sharon :dance: wahoo on the ebay cash in. Maybe I should start listing those maternity clothes - it's not like I'll be using them again.
sharonour routine is as follows and is pretty much the same every day.
4-5:30 am - wake up and has BF
5:30 - 7-8 am back to sleep
7-8 am - breakfast - fruit (1/2 jar), farex and BM mixed together and Breast feed
8- 10ish - play
10:30 - 12:30 - Nap 30 min - 90 min
12:30ish - Lunch - fruit (1/2 jar breast feed
12:30 - 2pm ish - play
2:30 - Nap - 30 min (sometimes skips this nap and has a late afternoon nap instead)
3pm - 5pm Play
5:30pm - dinner - farex Vege and Breastmilk mixed together
6pm - bath
6:30 pm - cuddles with DH
7:30 - 9pm -breast feed to almost asleep and into bed for the night
4-5:30 am - wake up and start again
Zennie Wow, he's having plenty of solids. So he basically has 4 BF/day which would be similar to 4 bottles/day I suppose, just don't want to cut out his bottles yet until we get the 'spoon' thing working properly LOL he really doesn't seem to like the Farex though.
alittlegrubi it was funny because the denim maternity skirt I bought for $39 sold for $38.50, most other stuff went for between $5-$10 with the dress selling for $20+ and I think only a few things went for 99c so I am really pleased.
Not much happening here, not looking forward to the school run tomorrow, it is going to be freezing in the morning, roll on summer pleeeeeeeeeeeease!
Sharon - We had a great day yesterday! My sister can be a bit neurotic and needy, but she was fabulous and really gave me a boost. It felt extra special too to have someone there to see me and not Liam (specifically) - iykwim. We spent most of the evening (after Liam went to bed) playing xbox & eating junk food! Good fun! :lol:
I'm currently debating whether or not to sell my maternity clothes or keep them in case I do this all again... Got them packed up in a bag at the moment until I make my decision!
Liam's now eating more. We kept putting up the amount we make the bottles up for and it's now up to 120 mls and he's consistently draining those so we'll up it again soon. I'd rather he leave some in the bottle so I know he's had enough. Tonight he had nearly 150 mls! Most he's ever eaten! He did have a very busy day playing in his cot for an hour though! He just loves it in there - which is great! Gave me time to fold his MCN & get some other stuff sorted. He lets me know when he's tired & wants to be wrapped for sleep.
Got the builder coming tomorrow (if he shows up!) - to have another look at the bathroom reno and see if we can 'pencil it in' for later this year. Want it done before he's crawling/walking around too much! Now DH & I have just got to try to agree on a design! :doh:
Nettie I kept my maternity clothes for the second time around, but it was pointless since they were in different seasons and I was a different size and shape too.
Sharon Most of My Ebay selling is finishing tonight and whilst a lot sold for 99 cents - especially the baby clothing, some stuff that I doubted would sell went for more than I expected it to sell for. Still have stuff ending over the next 3 days, think we might get to around $180 out of it all, nowhere near your amount and I had way more listed. Mind you think only 50% is selling.
Greer has been really bad for the last few days - she must have some pain, but I can not identify what it is. She screams if put down and sometimes when being held. She is getting to be a bit fussy at the breast and is only having cat naps during the day. It doesn't seem to be digestive, she is a little snuffly, but sleeps wonderfully from 6.30pm to around 11.30pm and doesn't scream at nights. Wish I knew what was wrong as I never seem to be able to get anything done until she is asleep and by then I am too exhausted from the day of crying to do anything. Although she was great whilst DH and I had breakfast at a cafe this morning as my Mum took DS for the night so we didn't have him to contend with in a cafe in the morning.
Going to finish off Ebay packaging and go to bed I think. Read and write tomorrow I guess.
Morning all,
No persoanl for moment will come back and do later, I have a 2 year old all over my knee.
So the more I think about it I think I am pregnant. It would explane a few things, like my nails growning faster and longer only when pregnant. Hair not falling out as much only when pregnant. Lovely clear face, only when pregnant.
Am going to get a HPT this morning, I have to wait until DD goes to school as she will tell everyone and anyone and no doubt Wyatt to wake up from his morning nap.
Am starting to get worried. I mean what do I tell DH, he will be disappointed. And I know I wont get the respone I want from him.
So wll go and get test, and fill you all in later on.
Sarah - it will work itself out. i am still waiting for Af so can start mini pill and its killing Sex for us ATM.
Sharon - Russell prefers the farex a bit thicker and it took a litlle while for him to get the hang of it. Rusell BF 4 times minimum a day and also has a bottle of formula however yesterday he had 2 bottles. I dont think your supposed to cut out bottles for a while. a friends 12month old still has 2 - bottles a day , generally b4 bed or a nap. FYI Russell hates formula with farex, prefers BM or water
Nettie my BF says that while she loves Oliver to bits, when she comes over it is mainly to see me, and that is so nice. Sounds like a great night. I am planning on getting the Wii Fit soon, it looks like so much fun, I love my Wii :D as for Liam's bottles, I was told that if bubs drains all bottles, then you should increase the amount. Oliver is still having between 120-160 and he really fusses with morning one the most, I usually give him a 10min break, re-heat bottle and then it's a bit of a struggle, but he does eventually have most of it.
alittlegrubi how did the rest of your ebay stuff go, I think the only reason I got so much was because I had a few 'big' items, I really didn't expect the monitor to go for $122 since most of them on ebay seem to go for around $80. Sometimes it is hard when bubs are feeling under the weather, especially when there aren't any major signs that they are unwell, hopefully she will start to improve in a few days.
sarah good luck with your HPT today, hope you get the result you want, let us know how you go. I think that all DH's wouldn't react the way we want them to when a pgncy is unplanned and so close, but he will have to come around eventually.
BabyWrangler how are you going, and how is BJ going with his Farex? I have given up with Oliver and his Farex for now, he really isn't interested at all and ends up with more on his face and bib than in his tummy.
Zennie Oliver is currently on 5 bottles/day and really wouldn't want to decrease that but at the moment if I was to increase his solids he would definitely cut one out, the only reason I started the Farex was because he was fussing with his first morning bottle, but since he is so disinterested have decided to stop and will try again in a few weeks, am also thinking that he may be lactose intolerant which would explain the fussiness with his bottles (I think LOL)
OMG it is FREEZING here today! there is definitely snow on the mountains as the wind blowing down is so cold.
Does anyone here know about lactose intolerance in babies? I have heard that 'frothy' bowel motions are one of the symptoms, and since reducing his Zantac (which can cause constipation) his poo's have been REALLY loose and look kind of frothy, and I think the reason it hasn't shown up before hand is because the zantac was making his poos firmer IYKWIM. The MCHN said that it was his saliva that was causing his poos to be loose (never heard that before) so I am kind of skeptical about that. I will try and get in to see my Dr in the next few days and see what she says.
Morning again all,
Quick update, took test (10am) and SNAP i'm NOT pregnant... THANK GOD...
Will tell Dh to go and talk to DR about getting snip. However if he hasn't done it until when Wyatt is 8-10months old tuff luck and I no doubt we'll be fine to fall pregnant than.
Am so realived, the thoughts have been racing through my head of having to buy a new car, only update ours 2 years ago. Along with DH stressing about buying or looking for bigger house, as this is only 3bedroom house. First house is never a forever house, it was something we could affort to buy at the time.
Am copping fine now, it was only when Wyatt was first born, and DS#1 wanted to play with him like a toy. Every morning I write myself a list of things I would like to get done before 10am. If I don't get them done then they go on tomorrow list.
Thanks all for you words of advice. I really dont know how you all cope with them all so close together but it all gets easier.
WEll that is my little huffalump waking up just thought I would update all.
Sarah You really can work yourself up worrying can't you. I've been doning it today as well, worrying is thinking without the facts and once you have the facts it is easier to deal with.
I am paranoid and overly anxious about so many things of late. I just want to escape my life right now - Sharon maybe you could chuck a couple of happy pills my way :cryinglaugh: I think I need them.
Grudi: What's going on that you want to escape? I can understand if you want some time away from family to feel normal.
It's not that I don't want another baby, just not yet, let me lose some weight and enjoy my time with Wyatt.
Speacking of which I had a dream the other night I was pregnant, had wyatt and 2 months later my tummy wouldn't go down, and I was pregnant with twins. One was Greer... I was horrify to know I had twins.
Anyway how is Greer going? We have appiontment at CHC on Thursday to find out how much my little huffalump has put on since his 6 weeks check.
Well it appears that BF is just a comforter for russell during the day now :( . hes feeding in the mornings and thats it , he pushes me away now and my milk has all but dried up during the day and only filling overnight for his breakfast. hes growing so quick and i didnt expect him to only be snacking on BM for ages yet. he is opting for formula instead. it makes me sad and like part of our bond is disappearing. BF gave me so much pleasure to. :(
Sarah I think yesterday was just one of those days where the mole hill turned into a mountain. The stupidest of things had triggered me yesterday - but I'm not going to go back over it now.
As to what I wanted to run away from.... Greer's screaming, having to do the 101 things on my list that never get done including completing school enrolment forms for DS, the clutter, everything.
It's okay though it was just an isolated day, by the witching hour it had all past. I found a Nuk dummy in a box yesterday and in desperation gave it a go and she didn't spit it out straight away. As much as I'd prefer not to use a dummy, for my sanity I happily put it in her mouth yesterday afternoon, it was that, throw her in the bin or drive away and never come back. Really don't know what has been wrong with her. It can't be being sick as she is perfect at night, maybe waking a little more often, but that is wind or bowel movements causing that. She seems happier this morning, but I'll let you know at the end of the day if I have hair left. :lol:
Sharon I still have a quarter of my auctions to finish and currently less than a 3rd of those are going to sell for a whole $9.18 plus the $149.99 already sold, I've got until Thursday afternoon before I know for sure. Next I'm thinking I'm going to get into the baby clothes and start decluttering with Greer's stuff to make room for the bigger sizes. The worst thing is that no sooner was the money in my Paypal account than I had spent it, admittedly I bought blockout curtains for the nursery and things for DS's birthday party so it was well spent. That wasn't the whole $150, only about $75 - not everyone has paid yet.
Being that I have both kids home today, we are going to venture out today, especially after my day yesterday. Going to visit BF and her 2 boys.
Hellllloooooo!!!! This thread is so empty today it is echoing :p
Had a much better day today, we've only had screaming during the witching hours today and even the dummy isn't working so I'm holding and trying to do things with one hand. She is heavy and my arm feels like it is going to fall off.
Zennie Russell sounds like he is selfweaning :(, but look at the bright side at least you can drink now :lol:
It IS quiet in here, isn't it??
Not much going on here... very cold so we're not getting out much lately :( Am reading the 'No Cry Sleep Solution' book and will be doing my 'sleep logs' tomorrow - wish me luck!
Am about to post a new photo of Liam doing 'tummy time'. We got him a special cushion for him to use to help him enjoy tummy time - it's in the photo...
Tried to start a diet today but kinda fell off the rails when DH wanted chips for tea. Didn't want to go out, so I made beer battered potato cakes. Don't think it was any healthier than bought chips - except at least I know there's real potato in there! Also had half a piece of fish (only one left in the freezer, so we went halves!). Then DH went and found a pack of yummy bikkies (**** Smiths melting moments) in the cupboard, so I HAD to have 2 of those! :lol:
*sigh* Oh well - will start again tomorrow! :wall:
Nettie - I think you are very good for only having 2 melting moments if my DH brought out melting moments I'd have polished off the packet.
I need to start eating better, not so much am I concerned about weight as I am about being unhealthy. I was sooooo good for soooo long and then I went to eating garbage again. Must get back onto a more natural diet, give DD some good milk instead of this calorie laden milk.
She is asleep now and since I am having "it's difficult to cope" days I'm going to have a glass of red wine to settle myself for the evening.
Morning all, Grubi and Nettie.
How are things? Everything fine here... Could do with extra pair of hands at times.
Nettie: I am wanting to get on the diet wagon as well. I try and eat right, but what I think is right might not be right. I mean I have meat and vegies, sandwiches, pasta, and breakfast.
*Excerise well we are in same boat here, its to cold to get out and about. DH not home early enough for me to go to gym with GF.
Grubi: Its good to here you had a better day, yesterday.. Wyatt going though same sort of thing, little bugger during day only have naps, but sleeps fine at night time...
* How did you go getting Greer to sleep by her self in cot?
Will dash Wyatt is calling, will check back in here later and ramble on some more, so you all have something to read. LOL
sarah must be a relief to find out you aren't pregnant. I think most of the bubs in here seem to be catnappers, I know Oliver is most of the time during the day, although he will occasionally do a 1.5 - 2 hour sleep (usually one of the morning ones)
alittlegrubi I know how you feel about wanting to escape sometimes, there are some days I think I need a 'double dose' of my happy pills, and I constantly get the 'don't want to go's' as I like to call them when I am supposed to go out somewhere just because I don't want to have to deal with (socialise and put on a happy face) other people, would prefer to be on my own. Hope you had a good day yesterday with your BF.
Zennie it's a shame that Russell seems to be self weening, but you have done a great job to BF him for this long.
Nettie where did you get Liam's tummy time pillow from? Oliver hates being flat on his stomach and I think that something like that might help him to enjoy it a bit more. As for the dieting thing, while reading through yesterdays posts, I have eaten 6 mint slice biscuits :p and I enjoyed every one of them.
BW haven't seen you here for a few days, hope you are going ok.
Hi to anyone I missed.
It is so quiet in here lately, maybe people just don't have much going on or happening at the moment so they don't feel the need to post.
Sarah Greer sleeps in her cot by herself for the sleep that starts at around 1-2pm and her first nighttime sleep usually starting between 6 and 7pm. Last night she slept from 6.30pm to 11.30pm in her cot.
Sharon Yum, mint slice - I'm going to buy some chocolate biscuits and melying moments when I do the shopping now. Yes Monday was definitely one of those I don't wanna days for me. Spent 3 hours with my BF, it wasn't too bad, just watching DVDs with the kids and chatting - was pooring with rain yesterday so we couldn't do much with 4 kids in toe. We talked about organizing DHs to have the kids one night next week and go out for a coffee or three and cake.
No dieting for me :p
It's always good to know you're not the only one having these experiences, both how bubs is and how we are.
:grouphug: thanks everyone for making me feel better.
Second Sharon's concern for BW, Shellbelland Clueless hope you are all just too busy and not having a hard time.
Today is shopping day so there won't be much exciting going on for me today, but I'll pop back later in the afternoon - your evening since you are all Eastern Staters.
Afternoon, all
Sharon: It was a hugh weigh off find out we are not PGT. I think since the slip people are just busier now. I know its the case for me. Only on here now 'cos wyatt sleep in pram behind me and I give him gentle rock now and then.
How is Oliver doing these days? Getting any bigger?
Grubi: So when Greer wakes up at 11:30 where does she go then? Back to her bed???
Well we went to playground at school and as always it was good to get out of house. Landon DS#1 rode his bike over, and we did painting. We took over out bubble blower to show teachers and all the kids loved it so they are planning to buy one now.
Had a lovely informed talk to another mum there. She has an adoptive son from Ethiopia. She was telling me he was about a month old when they FOUND him at local police station. Along with how long the process took, and what they have to do. At 7 months old he only weight 4.5kg. That was Wyatt when her was born. I was almost in tears. Though both her son and Landon get long good, and they will be in the same year together. She has just had a baby, and Wyatt and him will be in same class too.
We I am still trying to put these books together of some familys I took their photos for. It's has taken me 2 days, a few stuff ups at the printer. So hopefully I will have it done by this afternoon. Also I didn't plan on how many photo I was going to put on per page. So if I run out of pages tuff... They have a copy of all the prints of a CD and I made them a DVD slide show of the photos, which see really loved.
So now I am just rambling. To give you all something to read.
I had plans on painting my nails today they are at their longest, which is what also made me supect I was pregnant. I don't normally let them grow this long but, I am not really noticing them this time around.
While I'm on the subject, a HPT can't come back Neg can it? I broght twin pack so I might re-test in morning just to double check, 'cos I am still waiting for my AF. Am starting to get worried now.
Well I will go and let someone else ramble for a while. I have plenty to do, but am going to get a DVD out and a glass of milk and sit of cough and dip some choc-chip cookies in there. Haven't done that for a while. But gee its good.
P.S. Que for wyatt to wake up then.
Sarah Thanks for rambling, I enjoyed reading it.
Obviously I need to get a life :lol:
HPTs can be negative if it is too soon, but don't worry about it yet, you might not have another AF for a couple of months and it not be due to PG.
Greer goes back into the cot if I am not being lazy and put her back in, she'll sleep for at least an hour and a half if I do that and it is usually wind pains waking her. If I fall asleep during the feed or it's too cozy I leave her next to me in the bed. She'd probably sleep in there all night she did for my Mum the night she took her, but I'm just lazy - like my sleep. Need to get to the point of not being lazy real soon though and move out of the nursery as I think DS and I wake her sometimes being in there.
I wish I had a friend like you to come and do some family pics for us. DH has a female friend who take photographs - see signature pic, but I'm not sure she'd be comfortable doing family pics. I know she secretly wants my DH, I don't care, but I think she is uncomfortable around me.
Pooey nappy alert - GTG!
HI Guys,
Sorry I've been a bit awol the past few days, the week has gotten away from me a little bit, plus the BB website seems to poo its pants every time I try and log on (then I crack a tanty and give up).
I'll try and get to personals in the next day or so but just quickly
Sharon: BJ used to eat his farex but it was "mouthful in...half out...other half in....repeat" I got a bran called Rafferty's Garden Organic this time around (mainly cause it was on special) and I have to say the change is insane...he had 2 and a half bowls of it last night and was getting grumpy when I didnt get the spoon in fast enough!
I even dont mind the taste...its made from brown rice instead of white and I think that gives it a bit more flavour, might be worth giving Ollie a go on that? it was only $1.74 last week.....
Sarah:Glad you're not pg if its not what you want just now...I know DH and I are not planning to have another one for about 4 years!
Grubi I wish we had someone to take beautiful pics like Greer's...I'm a shocking photographer and BJ hates the camera, though the past few days Ive been making a point of getting the camera out eveyday to try and get him used to it...I've managed to get some pretty cute shots (quite proud if I do say so myself!)
Nettie Liam looks like he's doing ok with tummy time! We got one of the Lamaze Spin and Explore play Gym things but we barely used it...BJ has been good with tummy time all along and now, he pushes himself up and looks around!!
Just on the ebay thing...managed to sell the baby bjorn air we got (I use the active as I need the lumbar support) for $120...quite happy with that...
I'll try and pop in and catch up properly tomorrow....DH has been working late the past few days so by the time I do all BJ's stuff, and DH gets home, we are often eating dinner at about 10pm!
Just a quick one...
Sharon - I got the pillow from the Reject Shop for $4. It's a giraffe curled in a circle. They also had some other animals, but for some reason he seems to attracts giraffes so we've made them his 'signature animal'.
Sarah - I like your rambles too! I think I'm on here more than most of the other mums (owing to the extra time I have because I'm lucky enough to have DH home with me) so I really look forward to the extra posts.
I've been doing my sleep logs for the NCSS book today and I can see clearly that we need to start instigating a bedtime routine! What does everyone else do to settle down for the evening? Do you do it in the main living room or the nursery? Help me with ideas people! I'd like to start reading to him, I know that!
Hi Girls,
I haven't posted since I bought my little boy Ryder home from hospital. I've been reading this thread from time to time, so kind of keeping up to date with how everyone is going :-)
I feel I need some advice on Ryder's sleeping pattern at night. Between 6-7pm every night, Ryder will want feed & then cries until I put him to sleep. He will not stay up any later without the crying & whinging etc. He wakes between 10 & 11pm for a feed, nappy change & no fuss going straight back to sleep. He then wakes between 2.30am & 3.30am for another feed, another nappy change & straight back to sleep. But then, without fail, every single morning he wakes at 5.30am, does a poo, wants compfort feed (I know its for compfort as he mucks around & doesn't drink for long), goos & gars for about half hour, then whinges to go back to sleep. We usually settle him in our bed after I feed & change nappy at 5.30am & I might get about 1 to 1.5 more hours sleep out of him (on a good day). I am still breast feeding, so every time he wakes it means I have to attend to him. The broken sleep patterns are really taking its toll on me.....
How can I get Ryder to sleep longer than 4hrs through the night????
My girlfriend's baby boy is 5wks younger than Ryder and has been sleeping through the night from 8pm to 5am since he was 4wks old! My friend says she cluster feeds Zac between 6-8pm. I don't know how that would work as once Ryder feeds from me, my boobs are empty & it takes 3-4hrs to be full again.
Does Ryder's sleeping pattern at night resemble any of your bubba's? When can I give him a teaspoon of Farex at night? Would that help fill his tummy a bit better & give me a longer sleep between feeds?
Nettie I was told to and have always moved away from the hussle and bussle of the main living area to start settling for the evening. As they get older they get more easily distracted by what is going on around them. I'd recommend sitting with Liam in a chair in a quiet room, not necessarily the nursery if you are not going to have him in his cot whilst starting your settling routine. The reason I suggest a chair is that you can't sit in the cot with him :lol: and that way you are getting the body contact and can then settle him off to sleep in the usual way unless you want to give him the message that he lays down, you read a story and then it's lights out sleeping time. I definitely wouldn't do it in the main living area, not that the noise should cease when you put him to sleep, just that he should be removed from it.
My turn to do a big post for you to have something to read :p
Jodie82The questions you are asking have been asked by others before and the response is usually the same. Farex won't make a difference to their sleeping pattern. The routine you are describing sounds much like Greer's only I tend to get either 5am or 6am for the wake and play then back to sleep and hour later for about 1-2 hours.
I find that the 5.30am poo wake that you are talking about is just that being woken by the bowel movement, he doesn't need to be fed then. Can I also suggest trying not changing his nappy everytime he wakes unless it has leaked of he has done a poo. Get him used to the idea it is night time by having a different routine. Try cutting out the 2.30am change. Do you burp him at the 10.30pm feed? I was finding that wind would cause Greer to wake more often during the night. By getting the wind up before putting her to sleep helps. When you have the 2.30am wake do you automatically give him the breast because you think that is what he wants? Try just putting him near your breast whilst patting his back and see if he searches for it if he tries to get it then he is hungry, if he doesn't it could be wind.
Don't try to keep him up, the crying is signifying that he is tired. Try feeding him and putting him straight to bed at the 6-7 feed time. The other thing you could do for yourself, which isn't ideal is go to sleep when he does at 6 or 7 to get the bit of extra sleep. When do you normally go to sleep is it after he wakes for the 10-11pm feed? Maybe try dream feeding him just before then see if that works for getting him a little further through the night. Another thing you can do is express off some breast milk and get DH to do the 2.30am feed so you don't have to attend to him, even if it's only every other night that he does this just to give you the chance to catch up.
For yourself you need to make sure you have vitamin B and fish oil as it helps the brain to manufacture the chemicals that it doesn't get the chance to do because of the broken sleep it just helps you cope a bit more and is good for bubba too.
I tried cluster feeds and it didn't help us. If you want to try it you'll have to attach Ryder for the feeds, remember it is supply and demand. If he starts having cluster feeds your supply will improve. Earlier threads have suggested using MILO or fenugreek to improve supply.
Please bear in mind this is just what we have found with Greer and it may not be the same with Ryder. Also sleeping through for a baby is anything over 5 hours so Greer is sleeping through from 6.30 to 11.30pm and I think a lot of the midnight to 6am waking is just because of my being lazy and not burping her because I feed her in bed with me and fall asleep.
BW Check out the tips on how to photograph your baby on the Jeans for Genes website - you might find BJ hates the flash rather than the camera - use natural light if you can. That said professional or hobby professional photographers do it so well like Sarah and DH's friend.
I bought a BB Active off ebay for $98 including postage as the original BB was killing me having had a c-section I needed the additional support also. Must get around to listing the original one even if I only get $10 - $20 for it.
Sharon One day left for Ebay, but one of my 99cent items sold for $41.00 - I think I paid $20 for it new - so I was having a party over that one.
Okay now it's DS's bed time and DH is off to band practice so I have to go read stories and will no doubt go to bed myself. Have a dentist appointment tomorrow so that means a minimum of 5 hours out of my day with dropping DD off to a friend in the opposite direction to look after her.
Jodie - welcome! I'm sorry to say that there's very little you can do to force your child to sleep more than he wants. You can try getting the 'no cry sleep solution' book to see if that helps, otherwise you could start trying to express milk after his evening feed to encourage your breasts to make more milk at this time. Then about a week later, try to get him to feed again to encourage the 'cluster feeding'. My Liam still gets up twice a night and I think you'd find if you went to the Jan baby buddies or the Oct 07 baby buddies that some of those babies are still getting up in the night too!
In regard to the crying - that's completely normal. Babies often need to 'let it out' at the end of the day as just seeing and experiencing normal things can be quite overwhelming for them. I think most of us on here would agree that our babies have a bit of a 'let it out' session at the end of the day. Just hold him and let him cry to get out all the frustration and angst he has bottled up... :baby:
sarah I think we all like to ramble on sometimes, and now that the group is a bit smaller I think it is easier for everyone to keep up.
alittlegrubi I try to be good with what I eat, but if I see something and I want it, I eat it, which is probably why I am overweight, but I think trying to diet and exercise while i'm having a rough time just wouldn't work. One of my ebay items sold for 50c less than what I paid for it, I love it when ebay bidding wars work in your favour
BabyWrangler where did you get the 'new' farex from? i've only ever seen the heinz one at woollies. That was a great sell price, I like it when you get more for something than you thought you would.
Nettie I decided to try Oliver on his boomerang type pillow on his tummy and it worked really well, he lasted a whole 5 mins which is really good for him since he would barely last 30 seconds when he was put straight onto the floor. As for the bedtime routine, it is usually, bath at 5.30, out of bath and dressed by 5.50, bottle at 6.00 and he is usually nodding off at the end of his bottle, so when he is finished, he gets wrapped, dummy in and into bed, but have been thinking of starting to read to him before his bottle.
Jodie82 nice to see you posting in here :D as for the farex making a difference to sleep patterns there is no proof that it does, what works for one baby doesn't always work for another unfortunately, just like some babies will sleep through the night from an early age and some continue to wake once or twice a night until they are 1-2 years old, grubbi gave you some good suggestions that you may like to try, good luck hun.
Not much happening with me today, just going to have a day at home. I have an awful ingrown toenail that has been causing me pain for about 2 weeks and I keep putting off going to the dr for it even though it is infected. We finally got Oliver's birth certificate yesterday, we sent all the paperwork off the week after he was born, the registrar didn't sign it until the 15th July!
Morning all,
LOL about my rants, and rambling...
Well I'd though I would do a quickish one now. I am in office doing DH book work for the business. Am almost in tears, cos I have just paid all our accounts and is it just to depreassing knowning how much my DH spent. Lets say in near $45,000 for 3 month. Now if I spent that about I would be DEAD. Farmers... We had decided to NOT grow potates this seaons. It really isn't worth the hassle for that little lump sump you get after you pay off all your accounts. However we will grow poppies this season. DH killed them last seaon. Idot put the wrong spray on them and it killed them. He still kicking himself, along with me through a kick in now and then.
Grubi: Well arn't you the luck one to have your DH and not the other woman. DH has a friend like that. And every time we see them I make sure to drap myself over DH to show her he is MINE...
* On tips on taking better photo's of babies and general stuff I will list a few and I EXPECT to see some in your galleies. It will give you and NETTIE
Have to go and get show now, I'm a bit smeelly and DS#1 has beeing using my office stamps and has ink everywhere.
Along with Annoying the CR*P out of me with littlbe bugging questions. He sound like a broken CD skipping on one thing...
Be back later with some tips
A quickie before I have my madhouse day of running around and sitting in a dentists chair for 2 plus hours.
Sharon all my ebay items finish in two and a half hours and so far we have gone over $212.00. Not bad considering only 60% sold and they all started at 99cents or less. And I've been really good and haven't bought anything more since buying the curtains, so I should get at least $150 into the Paypal account so that I can transfer it to the bank without paying any more fees.
All ended now - $227.
Last night I took notice of Greer's sleep pattern for you Jodie 5.30-9.45pm wake for feed 1.30am wake for feed 5am wake for poo, nappy change no feed, play until 6.45am feed, in arms nap 7.30am crying and having trouble settling her - refusing breast, just got her back to breast and sleep now at 8.10am, she did a huge fart before settling. She went down an hour early last night so the wake times are usually 10.45pm and 2.30am. Very much like Ryder. So you can take comfort in knowing that you're not the only one.
Afternoon all,
Just finished reading all post. Quick personals.
Jodie: Great to see you again... How is Ryder going apart from the sleep? And yourself?
Do you wrap Ryder up?? That is a big thing for baby to feel secure and wrapping is a major help. Think about it, 9 months in small tight place, then come into this world with the limbs, which have a mind of there own. (hit him self in face)
*Wyatt routin for bed, is bath around 7-7:30 wrapped up TIGHT or he'll escape. Boobie, then into bed awake. He has a little grizzle, which is getting less and less then he's also. I too am with Grubi, don't change a nappy unless you have too. The less stirring you have to do the quicker he will get back to sleep.
You can only try and see how you go, but get back to us and let us know what you did different.
Sharon: Today I'm having a lazy house day. I got all cleaning up done, did DH book work, and now am sitting on computer for a change. Oh, on the diet thing, you could say you are on a SEE FOOD DIET.. (get it??) but say it fast so people think its a seafood diet.
Grubi: Hope all goes well at Dentist, and you not there that long or experince to much pain.
Nettie: I do what stated above, but I do it in lounge room if other kids have already go to bed. I also turn all lights off, and put lamp on. If kids are still up I go into our room, and sit on bed. A quiter area, I leave TV on for background noise for Wyatt when he is in his bed, 'cos when DH goes to be he only going to turn TV on anyway so I just take out the starlte factor in it.
Ok, so I said I would give you some of my tips which I use when doing my photos.
1. Get down to there level. Lay on you tummy if they are.
2. Use a simple background. Get rid of all the different clutter
3. Capture all emotion and feelings. (E.g. smile, tears, sad, happy, laughing)
4. Move in close, fill up your view finder with the subject. Do you want to get a lovely little baby or the big mess on the floor photo?
5. Try using you camera at different angles. E.g. looking down, up, tilt you camera a little?
6. Include other people. Remember to keep baby/children at the same eye level as others.
7. Turn your camera and get some vertical/portrait shots.
8. Try and use natural light near a window, instead of a flash. But no direct sunlight. If you have a silver Car Sun Visor, use that on floor (out of camera sight) to take away double chin.
9. Take lots of picture. Even if you take 50, you may only get 5-10 really good ones.
10. Take picture frequently babies/children change so fast.
11. Get a tripod and get in the photos with your kids. All you do it put self timer on and run like made, make sure you don?t trip over tripods on way back or you have photo of carpet.
There are get website out there we can all copy photo from. to try and re-do ourselves. Have a go...
Well Me, am off to sit on lounge and have a large glass on water and very thurst today.
Will check back tonight.
Sharon I say eat what you want, but believe it or not, exercise is actually a very good antidepressant, so maybe getting out to do some exercise might make you feel better, don't worry about it actually helping with the weight, just do it to help the chemical imbalances, and make that rough time a little less rough.
Sarah Lucky for me dentist isn't painful except on the hip pocket... I'm about to spend more than your DH spent on farming on my teeth. I spent $7000 before falling pregnant and now have to redo the treatment as it had to be stopped whilst pregnant - so far that has been $4500 and next week we meet to review the actual dental work plan and although 12 months ago the cost was to be $44000 it's likely to be more now - inflation ;). So far the dentist visits are just to adjust my bite, the actual work involves crowning every tooth to compensate for the 2 to 3mm I have worn away from night grinding to the point of getting through the enamel and exposing the dentine (soft centre). If I do nothing eventually I'll wear my teeth totally away and in the process end up with headaches, back pain, poor sleep and a whole bunch of other symptoms caused by the fact that my muscles are working overtime trying to get a comfortable fit with my teeth. (Didn't explain that well). So I am taking enough money to buy a damn good car, a sizable deposit on a house etc and sticking it in my mouth :rolleyes: It was not an easy decision to make, but I worked out that it's about as much as DH would spend on his supplements in 3-4 years, I'm just spending it in one hit. :wall:
In relation to me being the lucky one to have DH, it goes both ways, we are lucky to have each other for various reasons. I feel absolutely no need to show displays that DH is mine with said friend or anyone else for that matter. I'm actually the total opposite and give him so much space that most people think that we must be having problems in our relationship because I don't treat him like a possession. He can do whatever he wants and because I allow him the freedom he doesn't feel the need to take advantage of it. I'm sure that if the shoe were on the other foot , i.e. he was with her and I wanted him he wouldn't be allowed to see me alone. ;)
Thanks for the photo tips Sarah. Maybe one day I'll get the enthusiasm to actually do some photography rather than happy snaps.
DD had another screaming day today, fussy with her feeds, explosive poos and one big chuck this afternoon, she was in bed before 6pm again tonight. Really don't know if I need to take her to a doctor. She does have some happy time during the day and is fine at night... no temp. Maybe it is just because I'm being so bad with my daytime eating atm. Chocolate and Iced coffee are the staples in my diet - naughty me - (see Sharon definitely not a dieter myself - great comfort eater I am).
Off to put DS to bed - I've missed his usual bed time being on here, so better go now before it is too late.