Have been away for few days. Got wardobes in they are wonderfull. Still trying to get orgainsed at the moment. I have boxes everywhere in lounge room. I washed all of my 00 clothes and hung up in NEW wardobes on Wyatt side. He is only just moving up, some stuff he still fits into 000 and he's got to be near 6.5-7kg. Love DS wardobe, have moved DD old pooh stick of old wardobe and put on his. Even love the design of a few draws on one side and double hanging on other side. DD, and Wyatt's not so much. We went to spotlight and brought some wall art sticker but haven't put them on. Would like another draw under the draw already there, so will have to get builder back. DD and DS will move rooms when Wyatt sleeps in his cot, and can settle himself.
I haven't even tried to change Wyatt over yet, were still only in there for playing. Everyone here is SICK AGAIN. Wyatt is so congested I feel sorry for the little bugger. He seem to be back in routine again, which is GREAT.
DS who we thought had cold/flew has an ear infection, which would explain why he is beings such a princess at the moment. He can cry at the drop of anything.
FIRE: Is the room you put Ci in cold? I know Wyatt wont go to sleep in cold room, so we put heater on when he in there which help him sleep longer. But I would recommend buying the Ergo infant insert for the cost of $33 it will save your back/front. I couldn't manage without mine. Wyatt will sleep in his for up 4hrs along as I get up and guggle him now and then.
BW: GREAT job on taking the dummy back. Nettie: We too go to town on our hand over here. It's like gold take it away from me and I will cry.
Oh well I better go, we were ment to go to SNOW today but seem everyone is sick will have to go another weekend. So it's back to finish orgainsing kids wardobes and through heapsof junk out.
Hope all are coping well.
Cheers
Sarah
P.S. Will put photo of my GREAT wardrobe in galley.
Well first week back resulted in a trip to Sydney for training on Thursday and a very tired mummy!! I am luckythough, they let em take Luke to Sydney with me and are fine wiith me sitting in my office expressing and organising my appointments around expressing. The only problem I have had is that he tends to get fed more with his Nan than I would do. I think part of it is that DH's sister likes to feed him when she gets there in the afternoon and she didn't BF any of her 3 kids so neither her or Nan really get how precious the EBM is (i have found that this bottle only gets half drunk because Luke really doesn't need it so the remainder goes down the drain!!) I have had a chat to DH's mum and i think she gets it now. Also trying to train her to call me at lunchtime so I can feed him - had to have a talk about not only is feeding him a lunchtime something I want to do, it helps my supply and doesn't waste precious EBM! Luke is doing so well though - now into 0 sized clothes - giant big heffalump!
Fire If you only want to express to build a supply and don't want to increase supply, express 20 - 40 mls after a feed when you feel quite full. Expressing will increase your supply so I did it gradually (and regularly) so that I wouldn't take food off Luke and wouldn't increase my supply to the point where I couldn't manage it.
Have read all the posts, but tired and need to go into town to get more antibiotics (had mastitis last weekend and didn't get enough tablets for the 10 days). Miss you guys and it is great to hear that everyone is doing well.
Shellbell:
Cos Wyatt is sick, my boob's were hugh yesterday he hasn't had a good feed all day and he was fast asleep. So i got out my pump and expressed. However what i forgot to watch was how fast the little bottle filled up. Was off in own world and within 4-5 minutes of me pumping away the 200ml botle was full. Opps!!! So i got out some little sealer glad bags wrote date and into frezeer with it.
So that boob felt good, just enough to take the hurting off still plenty left incase he woke up early. But my left boob was still acing, so on went the pump. I timed this one, it took me 3mins 35sec to fill it to 150ml. Again into bag into the frezeer it went.
I never really expressed with 1#DS. I did a few times when I was too sick, and it took me like 10mins to get 150mls so never bothered. But this time am going to re-think it so I can go out without no children one day. I was so proud of my self.
Question??? How long does Breastmilk last for?? It's in chest frezeer... And how long does it take to defrost??? what is the best way to heat up? In bottle in a container with hot water around it?
Cheers
Sarah
Hi Sarah, this is what I've always been told about boob juice:
It can be stored in the freezer for 3 months, best de-frosted slowly at either room temp or in fridge, ok to use for up to 2 days after taking from freezer as long as it isn't heated, and isn't allowed to become warm (so must be still cold when you put it in the fridge if defrosted at room temp) prior to being heated for bubby to drink and must be heated by using warm water, microwaving it will kill the nutrients in it.
It can be used for a second feed (if not all used) as long as it is kept warm between feedings and not returned to the fridge and re-heated.
Last edited by BabyWrangler; July 12th, 2008 at 04:26 PM.
Sarah I have been told that you can keep it for 3 months in a fridge/freezer with it's own door (IYKWIM) and 12 months in the deep freeze. It is best defrosted in the fridge and should be used within 24 hours. It shoudl NEVER be microwaved and can be heated in a container of warm/hot water ( i have a bottle warmer). Once a feed has started any leftovers should be thrown away. My midwife said if all else fails give it to him cold (luke is a piggy who will eat anything!). Yep - once the milk is in I have found it easy to express - 240ml in 15 mins during the day at work (and that is after feed and after expressing the other booby for comfort) - needless to say my boobs are huge!!!
Hi all!
Well we tried Farex tonight and it went really well...I'd been told to make it really runny, but having had 8 years experience of introducing solids, I've actually found thicker is better.
I made probably about 2-3 teaspoons, mixed with formula, and Benjamin ate most of it.
He did the usual thing of pushing most of it out each time as he used his tongue to "chew" it, then we started putting in big mouthfuls, which did result in gagging, but also swallowing!
Will see how long he sleeps, I doubt the length of time will change though!
Still...was all good...we are set to have "dinner" every night now!
After a week or so of farex we'll move on to some potato, then some pumpkin and broccoli! (doing fruit last as experience tells me if they have the "Sweet" fruit first, the vegies don't stand a chance!!)
Last edited by BabyWrangler; July 12th, 2008 at 10:23 PM.
BW - that's a good tip about the veggies... I hadn't thought about that!
Sarah - if you check the ABA site, they have the full list of safe storing of EBM - 3 months in freezer (at the back/coldest part of freezer). It's best to defrost in the fridge before warming, but you can directly warm the milk from cold or frozen if you need to. Just put the frozen milk in a bottle (ABA sells the freezer trays which are great for this) and sit the bottle in hot tap water (not boiling water or you may curdle the milk making it useless) until it warms up. Can take about 5 minutes for frozen or cold milk (just to warn you in case bubs is already STARVING and is screaming the house down like Liam does sometimes!).
Liam's given us the shock of our lives tonight by downing nearly 170 mls of formula! Was over the space of an hour or so, but seeing as we were struggling to get him to eat 100 mls, that's amazing! He's also been a bit niggly the last few days and I'm wondering if he's having another growth spurt or is preparing to change routine. I'm hoping this huge feed means he's about to sleep through more than 5-6 hrs at night (only does it occasionally now) or he's about to leave more than 3 hours between feeds. Either way would be wonderful!
I've also made the decision to stop expressing BM over the next couple of weeks (am taking it slow so I don't get mastitis). I'm very proud to have gotten to 3 months, especially when my goal was 2. It's becoming so much harder now and I'm only getting just over one feed a day for him anyway. It's costing more for the pump!
Hope you're all doing well and having a fab weekend. Am sick of the cold already... Makes it hard to give Liam massages and nappy-free time.
Hi. I have been reading some of your posts and noticed a few of you are unsure as to why we are splitting the group. It isn't because it is a large group or anything, it is so we can keep it in line with the March groups and all the groups from May onwards.
So the new groups will be April 1st - 15th and April 16th - 30th - but you are all more than welcome to post across both groups.
so we're being split for the sake of consistency? surely the best interests of our group as a whole should come before the interests of consistency. trillian, do you really think it will be so confusing to have one april group instead of two? i'm sure future bellybelly members will be able to work it out - we're a smart bunch after all! please reconsider!
Hi all,
Well the Farex intake is going well, Benjamin had some more for dinner tonight.
The dummy removal, not so well.
The first couple of days were good but I think that was cause I'd substituted the dummy with patting, but now the patting isn't enough.
The past 2 days have been awful...making ME cry cause I'm making HIM cry.
DH heard it tonight at full force and agreed, dummy back....put it in his mouth and he was out like a light.
So we have agreed that he has it for bed only...so, when we lay him down, he gets it...when we pick him up we take it out first
I feel a bit better now!!!
sarah the wardrobes sound great, would love to have big enough bedrooms for the boys to have built ins too. shellbell glad to hear the 1st week back went ok, and I hope you manage to get your MIL to understand about how precious EBM is. BabyWrangler That is great that the farex is going so well, I know from experience too that thicker is better. Bugger that the dummy removal didn't go as smoothly, Oliver usually only has his when he goes to bed or when we are out and he is getting tired, he usually doesn't want it at any other time anyway, just pushes it out with his tongue. As for vegies before sweet foods, totally agree with you, when I had Anthony he would usually have a chocolate or banana custard for his lunch, and of course loved them, he was a shocking eater when it came to trying to get him to eat vegies, Jordan, only ever got vegie's for lunch and dinner up till about 8 months or so (can't remember exactly) and when he started finishing his main evening meal and then wanting more he then got the deserts, he is now a boy who LOVES vegies, they are the first thing on his plate to disappear every night Nettie Congrats to making it to 3 months with the BF
I got Oliver to re-settle himself again this morning, so i'm hoping that once he has the hang of it in the morning, he will follow through with the rest of his sleeps. This morning though before I put him back to bed I noticed he had done a poo, so I start changing his nappy, just as I pull the nappy out from under him he decides he has more to do, we got in such a mess, there was '$hit' (literally) everywhere, even all over my hands, Oliver found it quite funny and let me know this by the huge grin he had on his face
Just a quick visit from me.
Had first night without both kids last night and it was great, spent 3 hours with DH had dinner and cake and coffee then had drinks with friends, got home at 1.30am and DTD for the first time since DD was born.
Of course my concerns were founded - that is shame about the boobies needing expressing resulting in a sleepless night anyway .
Sarah 12 months in the deepfreeze. Everything shell said is right about storing breastmilk.
Shell If your Inlaws think Luke needs extra feeds maybe try adding the farex to the EBM like BW is doing, save that precious milk. Can you give EBM in smaller serves like 60mls so that if he needs a top up there isn't so much wasted? on the 240mls. I only got 120ml on each express that I did without DD around last night. Will be freezing the last 4, discarded the first one as I was drinking red wine when I did that one.
Sharon - we've had 'poo drama' here before too... not pretty! Just remember, we have to do these things so we've got something to embarass them about at their 18th birthday party!!
Grubi - sounds like a wonderful night... lucky you! I'm kinda hoping I get a free pass to see the new Batman movie! I'm a sucker for men in tights...
BW - sounds like you've reached a bit of a compromise with the dummy removal. Maybe you could try again in a few weeks...
Mgm - it certainly sounds like we're splitting for consistency. I'm really bummed because Liam was born on 17th - so we're right in the middle. I find it very beneficial to be reading about the older babies so I can know if Liam's on track with his development or get warnings about issues that may come up for us.
I don't think it will change much anyway as we'll all probably keep posting in both forums, so it will be a moot point... jmo
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