Babies Born April 2008 #5

[Trillian]

This thread is for parents who's baby was born in April 2008

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MistyFying

There are many issues that you will encounter as a new parent. We have put together this list of useful articles and threads in order to assist you with some common questions or issues you may have, and to provide you with bit of extra support that we all need as new parents:

Feeding Support:

Breastfeeding General Chatter
Breastfeeding FAQ's
Is My Baby Hungry?
Bottlefeeding FAQ's and Useful Information
Is Feeding Your Baby Taking Too Much Time?
Bottlefeeding General Chatter
Feeding Your Baby
Lactose Intolerance
Starting Solids/Homemade Baby Food
Starting Solids - When Is My Baby Ready?
Starting Solids General Chatter

Please contact the Australian Breastfeeding Association (ABA) or a Lactation Consultant if you are concerned that you may have breastfeeding and/or supply problems, and before the introduction of solids.

Sleeping Support:

Comforted Sleeping & Sleep Issues Forum
Comforting Tools to Aid Restful Sleep
Babies & Sleep
Controlled Crying/Comforting/Sleep Training
The Con of Controlled Crying
The Crying Game
15 Ways To Help Your Baby Sleep

Other Useful Information & Recommended Reading:

Baby Massage
Cuddle Me Mum
Infant-led Feeding & Weaning
Baby Wearing
Recommended Reading List

Got questions?

Post your questions in the forums mentioned above, or in the following forums where you're sure to receive many friendly responses!

General Baby & Toddler Forum
Breastfeeding, Bottlefeeding and Solids
Gentle Parenting Forum


Your previous thread can be found https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...-2008-4-a.html

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[shellbell]

Hi ladies, I am finally back online after a week in QLD visiting my nan. It was so lovely to be able to introduce Luke to her. He was amazing on the plane - slept the whole time through changeovers and everything and then such a trooper on the 12 hour drive home. He has also started sleeping from 8/9pm until 5 -6am which is awesome... I am loving it! He is however quite grumpy in the afternoons.

I am, sadly, returning to work full time next Monday. I knew all along that I only had 11 weeks (thanks so much to the unpaid maternity leave scheme in australia - but I won't go ranting on that again!) but I thought that Luke would be bigger somehow, or more aware - i don'tthink I am explaining myself well. Anyway, I had managed to talk myself into the scenario that Luke would be fine and his grandmother (my MIL) would be able to look after him in the same way that I would.... and then DH takes Luke to his folks place yesterday afternoon and comes home with a screaming Luke and relayed his families concerns that Luke isn't eating enough and needs solids and/or formula. Lets keep in mind that Luke sleeps really well at night and weighes about 6.8 - 7 kg's - he is really quite big. I felt so undermined and upset that I had a minor melt down and starting thinking that I wouldn't be able to keep BF'ing him. This in turn made me angry as I have been so upset about how my labour eventuated I have been consoling myself with the fact that I have been able to BF my big boy without ANY problems. I do appreciate that Luke is a big bub and it si possible that BF'ing won't work with me working full time, but to be told what to do by people who have had very little to odo with him really rubbed me up the wrong way...

... and that is my rant for today.

I hope everyone else is doing well.

[bellelass]

Michelle- I know how you feel about being undermined by ILs. You're quite right to be proud that you breastfed Luke so well with so little problems, he sounds like he's doing perfectly with being so big and sleeping so well. Maybe sit down with MIL and be very firm with her about how he's to be looked after (i.e. ebm only) because he is your son and you know what is best for him. There's nothing wrong with that. It sucks to have to leave him, but at least he'll have heaps of 1 on 1 contact with someone who loves him. Its better than being one baby in twenty looked after by some person.

Janine- Woohoo for getting some sort of sleeping! I hope it lasts for you. And you know... I usually sleep Lila on her tummy. I know its so frowned upon but that's what works and anyway MIL and Mom did it so whatevs.... Also, what do you mean by "milk bank"? And I'm pretty inclined to ignore the loans except it just feels like the wrong thing to do and I have this huge fear that it might somehow queer my bid for permanent residency or citizenship.

Sarah- That's fantastic about getting so much done, its such a good feeling. I generally keep the house decent and my man fed, but its always in such little chunks. I wish I could get it all done in one whack like that.

Been good here. Lila sometimes won't go in her sling anymore, i need to work out one of the other ways to wear it. Made some apple butter today because I mentioned it the other day to DH and the poor thing had never heard of it. Mmmmmm. And made a huge pot of Chili. Yum. And the washing is up to date and I got a nap. Lila's still sleeping like 9 hours a night, last night I actually had the energy to stay up a bit with DH and be the girl he married. She's down to only having maybe one bottle of EBM a day, its sooo much less work. So everything is boring and good.

[Fire]

Michelle, that sucks. Your son is gaining massively, are they out of their minds? Are your ILs going to be minding him when you go back to work? With your obvious grand bfing prowess, I'd say you'll manage no worries at being a pumping working mum! The proof is in the pudding, let them poo poo and you just show them you can do it. My mother was a 50's mother, back when cow's milk was given instead of bm (not formula), and there were rarely reactions (better milk, I guess) and little to no research done on anything. So that generation really doesn't understand our determination to bfeed. All that mattered back then is "sleeping through the night" and if solids or cows milk did it, then they did it. So they seem to fall back to that advice for every baby ail - "He has gas? oh, he needs solids... Can't read yet? He needs formula...whaddaya mean she's still in nappies at three months old! She needs a good dose of goat's milk..." Seems food solves all their problems (kinda explains a lot, eh).

Steph, WOW about your sleeping babe. I'd take your apple butter recipe if you were up for sharing it, and as for chili, how does Lila go after you eat it? I'm worried about eating curry (my favourite), but I wanna I wanna I wanna. re milk bank, I was so engorged I had to pump and got 60mls in five minutes so I froze it. My own little milk bank. I'm kinda excited about building up a milk bank in the freezer. I also think, for emergencies should I be unavailable for some reason, that DH should have something to feed DS. I also plan on getting him to let me sleep through a feed if I'm totally wrecked (let us pray it doesn't come to that). So yeah, milk bank. 'xcitin' stuff. FWIW, residency here is a cinch. They barely check anything really. DH had a medical and showed police records from one of the states he lived in. Where as I was all but anally probed in the States for my residency. It was a nightmare (michigan). I refused to be vaccinated which didn't help. But yeah, I think you'll be fine. Not that I'm advocating running on a loan (who, me?) but just advocating less stress on your behalf, and don't knock yourself out or miss more time with bub than you need to just for that. I think they just like to know you aren't a criminal or otherwise up to no good.

Ci had a MAJOR breakdown today. Cried harder than he ever has, almost lost his voice. Just woke up screaming, and it's not the first time. Weird, can't figure it out. Took half an hour to calm him.

[shellbell]

Fire LOL - you are so right!! Even my mum - who is very suportive - keeps asking "why can't you give them cow's milk at 6 months?". Theory seems to be that we survived so it musthave been OK. Yes, my MIL will be minding Luke everyday that I am at work unless DH has weekend rostering and has days off during the week. My folks live an hour away and would have come over once a fortnight for few days but they are leaving for a 9 week OS holiday next friday (Canada, Alaska, Europe -not jealous at all!). I kee telling myself that it will be OK, but DH refuses to tell his mum exactly what we (I) want so it will probably fall to me to have that conversation. Yay for your milk bank. It is awesome to be able to get DH to feed Luke and give me a break.

Steph Yeah, I came to the same conclusion that at least he will be with family and have consistency of care. My MIL did the same with SIL's 3 children so she is pretty adept at looking after little ones, only real difference is that SIL didn't BF any of them. Will have to be quite firm.

Luke is a trooper! Spent all day yesterday stressing about whether he was getting enough to eat and wondering if I should comp feed him with EBM (I have about 3.5 litres in the freezer) but decided just to feed him as usual and see what happened. Put him down at 7.15pm and he woke briefly at 5am (had his arm jammed in the cot bars and after I fixed him up and went to put some warm clothes on to feed him he was asleep again) and then woke up hungry as a hippo at 7am. He fed lots and lots and went down again at about 8.45am. Pooey to those who think he is starving. We are off to the MCHN today so looking forward to seeing how big he is.

[loulabelle]

Hi,I'm new to the site so i thought I come by to say hello and introduce myself.
My Son was born march 31st but I cant find a thread for march so this is will do (i'm only 1 day out).I would be very interested to speak with other first time mums(or any mums for that matter!)

[Fire]

Hi Laura! Welcome. How are things going for you?

[alittlegrubi]

Welcome Laura....
Feel free to join in our little group and open up any topic you have an interest in.
There are some first time, second and even thrid time mums in our group and everyone's differing perspectives make for some interesting posts at times but we are all happy to hear what you have to say.
I've had a chucky bub today - thinking that it is bread or the cold that is causing the chucks. Will stop eating bread and see if it makes a difference.
Feeling like I'm not getting anything done today

[BabyWrangler]

Hi all,
well my little piggyioli settled with his feeds for a while today, then ended up having another 200ml on at 5pm!
We took him down to Geelong to see my dad today (about 1 1/2 hour drive each way), gorgeous little boy slept in the car for some of the way there, then talked to me (I sat in the back cause in our new car, its so big that if he loses his dummy I can't reach around and put it back in, and we knew he was ready for a sleep when we got in the car) was awake at dads, slept at the restauant, awake back at dads then slept in the car on the way home.
Had a big feed then went down to sleep....still sleeping now!

We also got our first full on giggle in response to tickling...I nearly wet myself! He's always done HUGE grins when we tickle him, but this was a laugh....oh my goodness it was great, and Daddy, and MY Daddy were there for it!

[Butterfly_Princess]

Hey
Well, we were putting isabell in her cot a bit too late, so she was over tired by this stage, but not crying, but putting her in her cot would set her off. So now we act super fast at getting her in her cot, dummy in, and she will dose off. Thats my secret.
Also, taking her to a chiro i think is making a huge difference too.

[Zennie]

Morning everyone

as your all aware Russell is not well, tookhim to the DR yesterday who sent us to the mater childrens hospital to have him checked by the Pead. turns out he has a viral infection of some sort bronchilitis is what they mentioned. Poor boy cant hold down a feed and cant sleep anywhere except cuddling one of us. i am so rat **** and my boys miserable. They stuck tubes down his nose to clear his airways . not to mention DP is sick aswell and my house is trashed. well better get stuck in so that when the boys get up i have eased the burden of house work and loads of washing

[Trillian]

Hi everyone.

The Mod team have decided after much discussion that once this current thread reaches 140 posts, we will be splitting the group into two groups, along the lines of Belly Buddies as we have done with all the new Baby Buddy groups since May 2008. As some of you may have noticed the March girls also have a split group, so this is what initiated discussion to split this one. We understand that it may not be a popular decision, but this is what we feel is the best thing to do so it is in line with the March group and all the other groups from May onwards and there is no confusion to new members looking to join in and wondering why the difference.

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[BabyWrangler]

HI all..
Just thought I'd pop in cause I'm feeling a little bit like "mean mummy" and need to vent!
We decided, after 2 nights of going in to put the dummy in 100 times before the overtired boy managed to get to sleep, that its time to take the dummy away!
We also think it may be the reason he's grazing on his bottles rather than feeding properly as he's using the bottles as a dummy rather than as a food source!

SO...today for his arvo sleep (mind you he'd hit overtired by then....) I decided to start with the no dummy rule.
He was overtired so before I even decided that he screamed for 20 minutes!, After I got him to actually latch on to the dummy, I let him have it til he calmed, then took it off him and patted him til he was very quiet and quite dozey then I left him, and after talking to himself for 20 minutes he dropped off to sleep. He's been asleep an hour and 45 now and ha re-settled himself twice without me going in...he's wrapped with one arm out, and is laying on his taggie...I don't mind him doing that cause it doesn't involve us intervening!
The big test will be tonight....I feel awful as I know he likes his dummy, but he really was only given one because of his reflux, and now that thats sorted (and he keeps spitting it out anyway) I think its time for it to go. I read somewhere that habits for requiring dummy's etc form between 4 and 5 months, so if we can get rid of it before then that would be good!

Anyway...this mean mummy is off to check on her little man (I've done it about 10 times already cause I feel so awful, but its not like he's sobbing in his sleep like they do when they are really really upset...I just need to re-assure myself that he's ok!)...
Thanks for reading/listening!!!

[alioops]

Fire, Have a look at the videos on bubzilla. they will work with the ring sling also have a look at the babywearing threads for tips

BabyWrangler, Try to settle him before he gets overtired, that will reduce the crying and make the dummy removal easier

[BabyWrangler]

Hi Ali,
Yeah we rarely have him hit overtired, but today I was actually out and didn't get home til the "sleep now" window had closed!

Tonight (after waking him at 6pm cause he'd already slept through one feed) he had 120ml, then a bath, a little play in daddy's study while daddy made shelves, then 100ml bottle, into bed...bit of a scream, 1minute (if that) suck on his dummy, then a little cry while mummy patted, then because he was still upset after 10 minutes, I offered more food (due to him sleeping through a feed, I was pretty sure he'd be hungry) had 70ml, when his eyes started to droop, I popped him into bed, patted for a minute then left him talking...about 5 minutes later I went in cause he was quiet, he was stil away but patting his taggie....7 minuts later, sound asleep.

[Nettie]

BW - sounds like you're doing a fab job at losing the dummy. Liam's just discovered his mouth and has begun sucking at his hands/fingers. I'm kinda hoping he sucks his thumb (I did as a baby) because then we don't have to settle him with a dummy for sleeps (we have to hold it in for him because of his cleft palate). His teeth will probably need 'fixing' anyway because of the cleft - and he's completely covered for dental/orthadontics/plastic surgery on Medicare because a cleft palate is considered a birth defect. We won't know the extent of any teeth problems until they begin growing.

Boo hoo on the splitting of our little (big!) group. I've forgotten which of us have bubs born at which end of the month... Liam's b'day is 17th, so I'll be in the middle somewhere! I'll probably visit both groups to be honest...

Janine - don't some ethnic cultures carry bubs on their back from newborn? I'm sure some African cultures do... so it must be able to be done safely.

Liam's latest favourite toy is his hands - he's fascinated by them! Looks at them constantly and is always twiddling his fingers together (like he's plotting some evil plan! lol!) Can't wait for him to discover his feet because I've been given some 'foot rattles' - little animal faces with a rattle in them on a pair of socks... can't wait til he plays with them! So cute!

[Sequoia]

Liam's latest favourite toy is his hands - he's fascinated by them! Looks at them constantly and is always twiddling his fingers together (like he's plotting some evil plan! lol!)

Nettie, Baxter does this too! Especially in his car seat. We think he looks like Mr Burns from The Simpsons when he does this!

BW - woo hoo on taking the dummy away! Baxter loooooves his, and he settles so easily with it, it's going to be hard to take it away.

I'm away for a few days everyone, I turn 30 on Friday and DH is taking me to Perth for shopping, eating out, etc. All the fun things I like to do! Have a great weekend all.

SG
xo