Babies Born August 1st - 15th 2008

Just a quick one about being emotional and crying when bub was born... I cried when I heard her cry, because when I was getting the epidural topup before the c/s they lost her heatbeat for a bit, they don't think it stopped but no one told me anything all I knew was they had the doppler and no sound was coming out so I freaked out, and didn't relaz a bit until I heard her crying. But I found it hard to get emotional - bonding emotional - as I only got to see her for a minute before they took her away, Shel left as well and I was in recovery by myself trying to process what the heck had happened. One moment I had her inside me and Shel next to me and hospital staff telling me what a great job I had done, the next she was on the other side of the hospital and I was alone. It really was one of the loneliest and emptiest times of my life, and I was so numb. I am only now starting to fathom that I did give birth, because it just didn't seem real. Physically yes but emotionally not, and I've only just started to bond with Jazz since I have started to accept the birth as a birth.I am still finding it hard to call myself a mum,a nd call Jazz my daughter. My emotions during the birth weren't that rush of love and joy about giving birth, but relief that she was ok and then a lot of mixed emotions about the actualy event but none really about Jazz or about being a mum.

Woot I was at work for just over 6 hours Wednesday, and spent a lot of that time working, always bf'ing at the same time hehe, my "boss" is very encouraging and this was a deal we agreed to 3 1/2 years ago. I am a Landscape Architect, 5 years of Uni, 2 degrees and Honors. Finshed and got a F/T Permenant Gov job, after 18 months I became Senior LA, then by 3 years out I was managing 4 other designers and a few Million $ worth of design/construction work, it was great experiece, but I was getting bored as I had turned into a Manager.. wasn't doing design work anymore.

I did a Design Construct, of a $800,000 Japanese/Australian Garden, in the end due to staffing shortages I ended up being Site Supervisor and was working with a Lead Contractor from one of the major developers in the country. We got along really well - had been working together for a couple of years but not as close. I left site one day thinking I'd like to work for him one day! LOL!

6 months later some of the pipeline projects we had chatted about had come to fruition and he offered me an awesome opportunity. Start my own business, sub-contract to him (plus open to do my own work), he would pay for all equipment - cost about $30k to set up a design side of the business (laptops, large format printer, design programs) on top of that he bought a town house which we use as an office. Then we negotiated a good pay rate (hourly). I worked both Gov and for him for 6 months while we got established, but I had a lot of committments coming up in the ACT, and decided that after 5 years with the Gov that I'd had enough, so resigned and we FT my own business, and commuted to Canberra for 18 months, while we built a more local base. So I do the major design work and documentation, along with Site Supervision/Construction. And because we set the office up to be portable from the start it meant i could do what I liked really and W knew I was going to be trying for kids within a couple of years and set it up so I could work from anywhere - anytime :)

Our office started with the two of us, we now have 2 LA's, one Landscape designer and another Site Supervisor, plus the "boss". We have most of the design work for the major Land Developers in Adelaide - I have the best job!!!!

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Hey a question for you all I was curious about... when you gave birth, did you cry and get all emotional about your new baby? Or what was it that got you and/or your partners emotional (in a positive way!)?

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We cried, we were both in shock that is was all over so early and quickly, she was on my belly for quite a while (not sure how long) as her APGARS were 9 and 9 then after they took Nakita to Special Care and DH went with her I was getting stitched up, he did drop back to show me video and photos he had taken of her so that I could still see her, I then and then had a shower, I was just shaking my head, stunned.. After all of that it was about 3 hours after the birth that I got to see her again in the Humidi-Crib. I got pretty teary as she wasn't doing as well, her blood sugars were extremely low, she was on oxygen, IV drip was in and a heap of monitors plugged in, that was a lot scarier, we didn't take any photos at that time...but have others on our blog in the HC. The next day when I went down by myself, it felt like the longest walk and doing it alone was very scarry. When I saw her in the crib again it was pretty emotional :( the tears just flowed and I could hardly say a word, until the nurse spoke to me and explained everything. I was still very emotional when I got to cuddle her for the first time after the birth, I couldn't believe it... the machines kept going off, and I didn't know what to do...

I also got really emotional while she was back in the humidi crib under lights, after being in an open crib, as she was so scared, she was screaming, and I felt such a terrible mother, because if I took her out to cuddle her it would increase the amount of time she would have to stay under, and it just broke my heart to be able on only hold her hand, or she would be in there even longer.

Also Nakita had a lot of blood tests which really upset her, they try to do most of them when the parents aren't around, especially when they are trying to squeeze blood out of their tiny bony feet, they are not nice to see, and hear bubs screaming! We had a another round of BT?s to get done, but I was due to try a BF so we spoke to the pathologist and she agreed that I would feed her, poke her legs out under my arm and she did the BT's, it was a brilliant was, and she didn't get stressed out :lol: the boob was much more interesting!!

I think anytime see your child requiring assistance to keep them alive, get poked and prodded with needles (oh don?t remind me of the day I had to take her back and she had needles in both arms then the Heel pr1ck? aurrgghhh!!!), or is in a humidi-crib, very upset and the only thing you can do is hold a hand ? each of those moments make me very emotional....

Sorry that was long!

Wow Eli is doing fantastic Rachel!!! Growing so much!! Hooray for the sleep too. Yeah it was great to be back at work, for more than just a visit too!

:hug: Leasha, I am glad that you are seeing yourself as a mum, even if it is taking a little bit more time

Squidipa - glad to hear the smell has dissappated

Sunny blue skies here today Mel, think we will have to head outside!

:grouphug: MM, the Bear and the Pixie, it must have been a very scary time when bubs weren't breathing - I glad Nakita came out screaming!

Must run have a shower if Nakita will let me, sounds like she might be working up to a bit of a cry....

leasha i so understand having now delivered both ways i know the difference. Its like all of a sudden you feel empty and alone its when they take bubs out of you its an over whelming change of feelings. You know exactly at that time the baby has been removed. i remember saying the baby is out i feel empty now tis was before the cries. Un complete i felt. Its a very unsettling feeling. But i do trully understand leasha:hug::hug:. Theres no real gradual process to a c section is there??? its just bam your a mom.

hey just a quick note probably as the little man is stirring.. but i have been really moved by all your stories in response to my question (e.g. thebear - that photo soo made my eyes well up, that is such a full on special and emotional photo) and your posts have made me realise how much we have to process after the birth - like get our heads around everything that's happened and talk about the birth and remember different things over time (just yesterday i remembered something little that i hadn't since the birth!).

I can't imagine being left alone in a room by myself leasha and thepixie after the birth. leasha - I have heard your experience is really common for women who have a c-section - like the whole bonding side of things as well - but i am glad you are working through everything *hugs*.

mm - hope you hear news from the report soon. i hate it when i dont get to read reports arghh.

must go sorry, time to bf.

*hugs* to everyone xox

Morning all

Veygas has become my little alarm clock - he wakes every morning between 5.30 and 6am, and that's the start of my day! It's good in a way, because I have time to get everything done and get everyone organised for school and preschool etc ... but my days are so full on that I really feel the need to crash out by about 7pm!! LOL!

He's a little unsettled today - won't sleep unless I'm holding him (but at the moment, he is having a little whinge in his cot) I desperately need to eat and have a cuppa!! :rolleyes:

Vic - it's funny, none of my kids came out screaming!! So it wasn't until they took Veygas away from me and all these people rushed in that it clicked there might be something wrong!

Bear & Pixie - that is such an emotion charged photo ... I think someone else said this as well, it's so beautiful and tragic at the same time. It must me so hard (and Vic too) to see your little baby in that situation.

I know I am getting worked up about this appt on Monday - it's hard to think that such a tiny person should require surgery, but at the same time, it makes you appreciate that some parents have it alot worse (like those kids on waiting lists for heart surgery that keeps getting postponed - on the news the other day) And I don't even know if it will come to surgery, but the ECH nurse said more often than not they will do the surgery to ease the discomfort of the hernia ... kinda puts life on hold for a bit, but I would do anything to make sure my kids are healthy! :rolleyes:

MM.. good luck:goodluck: with Master Veygas's appointment monday. i hope you get all your answers your after and you come out feeling like you know whats going on:hug::hug:

i have a permanent velcro baby one handed typing.. just repaired the blocked up vac for hubbie. it had two barbie doll house things in it a large lot of fluff from a broken pillow and leggo in it blocking it up and a hook . hubbes vacuuming the salt up for me.. the rain i intense today hey!

Thanks for the support guys, it was pretty full on and it really didn't sink in at the time. I think that's how I got through it, it was all just a daze and a bit of denial and I didn't really think about how bad it was till it was over.
Mel - I am better, and I did start writing my birth story, but unfortunately it's developing a resemblance to war and peace. I'm on page 3 and I'm only 3 cms dilated! LOL
Beema, Leash, MM and squidipa :hug: thanks for sharing, and I really understand how you feel - not the C-section thing, but being alone and not knowing what was going on, feeling like you had gone through this huge thing and all of a sudden you were totally insignificant, no one would even tell you what was going on. Even your husband had left. That's how I felt anyway. TBH when I was alone in the room I was kind of proud of myself for getting through the birth with only gas and no tears or stitches. Then afterwards I felt stupid for feeling that way while my baby was in intensive care.
Leash, I saw your other post about birth anxiety. I know what you mean. The birth itself I could do again I think, it was hard and scary and painful, but I think I could do it again. The part I'm a bit traumatised by is that she wasn't breathing, I think I would have a hard time if I was pregnant again, getting over the fear that it would happen again KWIM?
Anyhoo, back to the present and Beth has managed to get that cold the Bear and I have had, so we are discovering the joys of fess.
MM hope all goes well with Veygas' appointment on monday, I know it's hard not to stress, but remember we're all here if you need to talk about it.
:hello: & :hug: to everyone

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Beth has managed to get that cold the Bear and I have had, so we are discovering the joys of fess.

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:hug::hug: its awful to have to syringe it out do it very slowly.. But on the upside it helps even tho baby hates it and it breaks ya heart having to do it. The drops arnt much better but it does help and to sleep bubs in a more upright position. Josh has this bug too.:(

I swear you ladies (and Squidipa's DH and The Bear :p ) are my lifeline ... with my DP away so much, it's great to come here and get support (and give it too!) I think I would be having a much harder time coping with no-one to talk to (or type to for that matter!) I do get to talk to DP on the phone every night, and on weekends, but not having him physically here is hard - at least he'll be there on Monday.

Well I had a look at the u/s scans and it has special instructions for "the patient to take it unreported" WTF??????? :wall: How on earth is that gonna help the paed surgeon?? And I can't get a hold of the hossie atm to see if I can pick up a copy of the report from them :( I just don't want Veygas to have to go through more unnecessary u/s's IYKWIM?? Especially if having a copy of the report could prevent that!

Pixie - I think you have every right to be proud of yourself for getting through the birth with only gas, no tears and no stitches! I can imagine you would have mixed feelings about it though, knowing that Beth was in NICU :hug: But don't feel stupid for feeling that way!

Damn, there was something else I wanted to say, but my mind is like a sieve these days! :doh:

On a totally unrelated note, my 4.5yo DD is TOTALLY toilet trained, day & night! She hasn't had any accidents in the past week since wearing undies to bed (and her pullups were dry for about 2 weeks before that!) but she has been day time toilet trained for over a year! 2.5yo DS on the other hand has no interest whatsoever and will even hold in his morning poo until AFTER his nappy is changed! Little bugger! Oh well, not gonna push him ... YET! :p

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Pixie - I think you have every right to be proud of yourself for getting through the birth with only gas, no tears and no stitches! I can imagine you would have mixed feelings about it though, knowing that Beth was in NICU :hug: But don't feel stupid for feeling that way!

my 4.5yo DD is TOTALLY toilet trained,

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MM you took the words outa my mouth with your comment to pixie. Heck i had several shots of peth with my first born. I was in tears Saying "i cant do this, I want to go home This isnt happening" i was 18 years old delivering on my back. In the end i was so exhausted the hubby held bubs for 1 hour before i got to.. I couldnt even see her face. i was just so tired and had lost a lot of blood and was being stitched up.

:clap::clap:Congrats on toilet training good work DD and mom!:dance::dance:

sorry double post!

ahhh did u double post?

yeah, Suidipa, I had a couple of shots of pethidine with my first - same thing, delivering on my back. #2 I was on my back again, only one shot of pethidine. #3 and #4, I didn't trust myself to get through it and ended up getting pethidine only 5-10 minutes before each of them were crowning! So it never kicked in until after they were born (cause they were both so quick! 8min and 5min respectively!) :cryinglaugh:

And pixie, I didn't see a double post :dunno:

MM i was induced too so very ouchies very traumatic for me :) But it does help with the bonding rather than here is ya baby and u almost feel like they could have just given you some random child!

The pixie's delivery was augmented with syntocin, so she was also on her back for most of the time..

Not to mention wired up to a drip and CTG monitor so I felt like a cross between an octopus and a beached whale LOL

Hmmm no time for drugs, except gas but that didn't appeal to me!

pixie I know how you felt! I had syntocin, monitor and IV fluids and antibiotics, which meant stuck to the bed, and eventually also an epidural which meant a catheter plus I needed oxygen too... i had tubes and wires coming outta everywhere! Not fun! And really no room for modesty either :redface:

I do sympathies leasha, however i have been lucky NOT to have an emergency c section. I had a spinal and an epidural in so i could administer my own pain relief after delivery. Also fluid bag and the cathader. Im so over cathaders it now doesnt bother me heck saves me getting up to go toilet as the first time ya get up OH MY GOODNESS SO PAINFUL!!!

Once in hospital after an op for a prostier repair and even for c section before iv had nurses watch me do a poo and collect it for specimen thats really oh my not so great put it that way! Ive also been woken in hospital with out warning with some random nurse with there finger up me butt giving me a suppository for pain. Thats happened over two ops but quite a few times over the stay in hospital its really is an invasion hey hello my a**!!!

"bed goes up, bed goes down" - I was also hooked up to drips and monitors but the midwives kept me upright in the bed-that-converts-to-chair thingy, and even let me adjust it to the most comfy possie for me! In fact one of the docs insisted that I be as upright as possible to 'let gravity help get that baby out" (in her own words!) So I think that in that respect I was very lucky!

My 1st ,I had the internal foetal monitor attached to his head so I had the catheter and wasn't allowed to get up sit up or move! Even though I was 27 when I had my 1st, they treated me like a know-nothing teenage mum :rolleyes: (I'm not saying young mums don't know anything, just that's that how I felt) ... doesn't help that I look young (or did at the time) :cryinglaugh:

Hey all,

Checking in for today - havent read back on all the posts. Man I am finding it hard to keep up now :lol:

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Sasha - a heated doona??? WTF??? I've never heard of that - but DAMN it sounds nice!!!

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Yeah its a Sunbeam one that you put inside your doona cover. Instead of it being like an electric blanket underneath you its over top of you, the best invention!! And even better it is dual controlled so hubby and I can have it at different settings! :dance:

Well its a horrible day here today. Been raining constantly and it is freezing :(

Have had a up and down day with Kye. Last night he slept really well. I put him down at 9:30pm and he slept right through till 2:30am this morning. Back in bed at 4am and woke up at 7:30am. This afternoon was a bit of a shocker though. Had a restless couple of hours but finally tuckered himself out at 2pm and is still asleep which is great I needed the time to get a roast chicken in the oven, yum!!

Anyways thats it from me, gotta check on the vege!

HUGE :grouphug: for all you lovely mums that were hooked to to soo many machines that go "ping" :( I was on my back only for a short while at the end, to do the episiotomy, and the pain was excruciating (all my labour pain albeit short was in my back) I could not have imagined being stuck on my back any longer it was terrible, but very lucky it wasn't for long.

OMG Squidipa - what a shock waking up to that!!!

Did anyone fid it really painfull on your belly when they used the doppler to find the heartbeat - towards the end of my labour the were pushing it soo hard on my belly it was hurting more than the contraction?? I ended up telling them to PO cos I could feel her kicking, she was fine, so they stopped, and let me get on with it....

Hi everyone,

:hug: ladies and the Bear I was fighting off tears reading your stories until I read MM's bed goes up bed goes down comment reminded me of a simpsons episode :cryinglaugh:

Answer to the question about crying after the birth yep I cried partly because I had to hold on and stop pushing for an hour and partly because this is the last time I was going to have a baby and experience this special moment.

The only time I was on my back was when they checked how far dialated I was and because Allegra was on my back it was soooooo painful. But I did have Cadence on my back and boy it hurt!
Sorry Vic I didn't find it painful when they were looking for the heart I was in the bath did anyone know they can go under water? I was trying to climb out far enough so it would get wet and I wouldn't get electricuted I had no idea they can go underwater :doh:

MM- I wish you heaps of luck with Veygas's op. YAY for your 4.5 year old it's sooo much easier when they can use the toilet :clap:

Squidipa- how are you going chicky sorry I haven't been in contact

Pixie and The Bear- I agree with everyone about your picture of Beth It would have been so hard :hug: she's beautiful guys you've done well

hello to everyone I hope the weather is better in other parts of Australia then it is in South East QLD

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I hope the weather is better in other parts of Australia then it is in South East QLD

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Nup, p!ssing down here ... we were hoping the warmer weather was going to stick around cause we've nearly run out of wood for the fire and didn't really want to have to buy any more this year!! :doh:

Dumb question, but for you Qld-ers, (or anyone who may know) does anyone know anything about Stanthorpe? eg is it nice, rough, houso etc ...

hey kel ... we all good babies take up so much time there will be time for you and i to meet up again some time k sweet.

Beema.. i hated the band on my belly to monitor the heart rate with baby 1 it hurt especially with contractions it was resisting the belly. My waters broke at 2am and i delivered at 7.23pm labour as the hospital would say was 12 hours very ouchies and i was induced. I remember after giving birth all i wanted in my daze was a drink of 7up and something to eat as i wasnt allowed to eat from waters breaking. The ex hubbie ate in delivery room and got food poisoning and was throwing up everywhere, i found this funny hahaha. While pushing i Bit him real hard on his tummy.

When she was born the first words i said was this "how the f*** did she fit in there" I was gob smacked at her 8.5 pound size. I cried when i saw her they layed her briefly on my belly before cutting cord then tried to make her breathe. When i did shower after i turned the shower off the blood would not stop running my feet were covered in it. My support person and hubbie at time had this real bad look on their face. Being my first i had no idea if it was k. The MW walked in and she rushed out of the room then i was concerned. I stuck two pads to my hands and wiped right up the inner parts of my legs starting on my ankles. In hospital i had 4 pads on top of each other and felt like i was constantly in a pool of blood. I remember being wheeled back to my room and i made the MW stop as we passed some scales and i jumped on i had lost 4 kilo :) pretty cool being i gained 40 in that pregnancy.

I never saw my mother intill 1 week after delivering. Second born it was 1.5 weeks after 3rd born my sister made her come so saw her on day 3. baby 4 well i am in diff state. My mother didnt live far away. Her priorities obviously was not i. While on the topic of special event and not having family there my first wedding both my sisters did not come. My sister inlaw arrive 1 hour late so we delayed wedding. The second wedding i decided to marry in NZ without any family there just hubbies family. It went real well every detail was planed for a real reason. Everything defined who we are. We didnt have a big cake just a small mudcake but over 100 mud cupcakes towers down on a several level cake stand.

Gee im going off on my memory banks arnt i hehe :D gotta scoot now hubbie made me cake. In a love heart tin. Well sorry hubbie im still bleeding so no deed today hehe Any one esle still bleeding?
Naaa i know he aint after that!! he isnt lika that :) Sleep is such a luxury these days hey!:pray:

hopefully all will go to plan and tomorrow ill get my blood work back at dr's and get Joshie weighed.

question do you pronounce josiah same as Josuah???

Squidipa - I would pronounce it Jo-sigh-ah, goodluck tomorrow

Blue skies here today!!

Oh yeah, tomorrow they should have all the framework for the bottom story done, next week is upstairs - :dance:

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So DH came home from work today and said that MIL is coming down next Thursday and she wants to babysit for the day and that I am to go out for the day and leave some EBM behind for Nakita!

Ok so this was a bit of a surprise to me, would have been nice for me to chose when I was ready to leave her home without me, she will be 10 weeks 3 days/4 weeks corrected, she is doing fine, fully BF'd generally pretty happy bub.

I have left her with DH one evening and went to the movies, but was in tears driving into town and couldn't get home quick enough.

How did you go leaving your little one with someone else for the day? What did you do? I just don't know if I am ready for this and would have preferred it to be me that made the decision, not be "told" IYKWIM.

I would be more than happy for her to come and spend the day with us, but I don't wannt be "kicked out", or forced to leave her!!!

There are times when yeah I need a break and just need to get out for a bit, but I'm just not mentally prepared for this - I was thinking about having to maybe organise something at the end of the month when we have a wedding to go to, and not sure if Nakita can come or not.

Aurgghhhh... I just don't know... any support would be great!!! Ways I can deal with it, suggestions on what I should do...
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Beema - Probably not what you want to hear, but this may not be a bad thing...

I suspect it's one of those things that you are just never really comfortable doing for the first time, and the only way forward is to try it and get better at dealing with it each time.

We pre-booked tickets to a show several months ago, so that we would have a fixed deadline for letting Beth spend the evening with a baby sitter....the show is next week, so she will be 4 weeks old.

You have a week to prepare for it, you can control how it works and what you do - try to come up with some ground rules that you can be happy with, maybe plan a couple of shorter things to do and come back home in the middle of the day to check how everything is going....just try to find some compromise situation that you think you can accept.

The Bear thanks for your opinion :) - I guess I have in my head the end of the month, and was working the logistics out for that, and am I am annoyed that I have been told that this is what is happening, that it wasn't a joint decision.

I am not as fussed with evenings as DH gives her a bottle of EBM anyway, so it is part of her routine and I have found that when we switch the feed we do the bottle it throws Nakita outa wack, so I prefer that when we do that, I am around to read the signs for giving her more or less, determining if there for a top up. Nakita is a pretty routine girl, which comes from being in SC for 11 days, and continuing with it when we were out cos of the need to gaim weight.

And really there are a heap of things I want to get done around the place but can't really do atm - like whipper snippering - I have no chance hearing that baby monitor with the engine going - and we have only just started getting good weather, weed spraying (I don't want to be halfway through and need to pick up Nakita). I think I will be best to go out and do a couple of things then get a heap of jobs done at home while MIL looks after her.

Squidipa - I live in Nambour. But I'm happy to come down to Morayfield to meet up next Thursday if you want? And I can't believe a nurse shoved something up your rear end without asking first... helloooo thats shocking!!!

Leasha - I understand about not immediately bonding with your bub - sometimes I still don't feel like I'm DS's mother - and he's 20 months!!!

Vic - I think I need your talents as a LA here - our gardens are a mess and we need to do some serious work before selling!!! And I think I would like to be asked if someone wanted to mind either of my children, but I would be ok with leaving them, IYKWIM? Hey, you should get fluffy mail today :)

MM - I hope V sleeps well for you today - without you holding him - we had a day like that yesterday :) I hope you are taking it easy - try not to worry too much about the operation, I'm sure they will only do it if absolutely necessary :hug: I hope something happens with that ultrasound?? oh and woohoo for toilet training!! I know who to come to for tips now...(oh and don't know anything about Stanthorpe except for where it is!!)

Pixie - you have every right to feel proud of yourself for what you achieved. Please don't let anything interfere with feeling that - because you own the right to have that.. *mwah*

Sasha - that doona sounds way cool man...are you going to come up the coast and visit us as well? We could all meet up in Brissie!!!

Hi Kel - you should come next Thursday too ..

OK, think i should burp the girl - been feeding for 20 mins and she has only drank 45mls - slacko!!!!!

Well stuck at home today - something wrong with car - bugger!!!!!

Hope everyone has a great day!!!

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When she was born the first words i said was this "how the f*** did she fit in there"

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LOL squidipa! my first words when they put DD on my chest were "ew she's so slimy!" that will sound great in the mini-series hey!
Beema - I know what you mean, I wouldn't be too keen on being TOLD you will go out and MIL will look after the baby. But maybe your DH is just trying to give you a break. The Bear encourages me to go up to the shops while he looks after DD, and it is good to remember that you're a separate person sometimes! Besides shopping is sooooo much easier without the stroller, car seat and time constraints. Maybe instead of doing things around the house you could do something nice for yourself like going shopping for some new clothes, getting a haircut & colour/manicure/massage. That's so hard to do with a baby and you have really earned some pampering. Beats whipper-snippering too!
MM bummer about the cold weather, and unfortunately it doesn't look any better today!
Leash - I had a slightly different thing. When they first let her out of NICU, I was too scared to do anything but feed her, change her nappy and put her down to sleep. and for about the first week when we got home I would sometimes think it was all a dream and that she hadn't made it. that was really awful.
Mel - Just :hug:
Big :hello: to kiwigirl, sasha, kel etc hope you all have a good day!

Hello,

MM- I have been to Stanthorpe it's sooooo beautiful in Autum. I didn't get to see too much it was a school camp. I would love to go back down on a wine and cheese tasting tour mmmmm wine and cheeeeeese :cryinglaugh:

The pixie- HAHA I thought that about Cadence and I couldn't believe they wouldn't let me wash her for two days!

Vic- :hug: sweety I remember how empty I felt when I left Cadence for about 20 mins just to get something from the local shops. But later when she was 6 weeks old I went for a girls night out I really needed it especially after 9 months of pregnancy and the first month and a half of constant feeding washing and cleaning I was able to let my hair down for a night. We lived in Darwin and when Cadence was 2 weeks old the army sent DF away for almost 2 months. Mum and Dad were up and looked after her for that night I went out.
Sometimes it's good to have that YOU time when they are so little cos when they get older it's actually harder to leave them

Mel- A meet up would be great I'll have cadence thats all and she can be a little poo hee hee

Squidipa- HAHA I agree with you new borns are so little but it's amazing how they fit inside your tummy. I was looking at Allegra's head the other night and put my hand over it and said to DF How the Heck did i manage to push that out my hand just fits over the top of her head! I'm shuddering at the memory of her crowning.
How sweet of your hubby to make you a love heart shaped cake, I 've banned DF from cooking anything cos he never cleans up after himself HAHA

Hello to all mums and bubs out there sorry for lack of personals

I'm a bit PO'ed at the moment we were suppose to have a realestate agent come to do an equity Evaluation on the house at 9:45 um that was almost over an hour ago! Not proffesional at all! and now would be perfect as Allegra is asleep :rolleyes: better go give Cadence some food she's hungies and so am I

Kel - mmmmmmm wine and cheese!! I could handle that! :cryinglaugh:

I went shopping this morning and on the way, dropped into the hossie, where they gave me not only the u/s reports that had been faxed to them (they too were amazed that a copy hadn't been put in with the films) but also the reports from the x-rays he had there on saturday!! So I think I am well equipped to see this surgeon on Monday now!! :dance:

I know this is going to sound gross, but the last few nights, we have had curry for dinner, and the last couple of days, Veygas hasn't had any problems shifting wind (or poo for that matter!! :p )

Vic - the first time I left my 1st born with my mum was for a whole day when he was 3 months old ... I had an on campus session at uni and wasn't sure on their "baby policy" (spewing when I found out I could have taken him!!) When I got home, he had refused all the EBM I had left, he refused formula that my mum had bought and he had pretty much gone hungry for 12 hours! (poor little tike!)

Squidipa - I haven't heard from my mum at all since Veygas was born, in fact the last time I saw her was in march for Khaemon's birthday ... it upset me at first, but now I'm more disappointed than anything cause I KNOW she's gonna call in about a years time and be all sad about missing out on her grandkids growing up.

My IL's on the other hand want to be here ALL THE FREAKIN TIME ... my FIL rang DP the other night to tell him they were coming up on Sunday (not ask!) and he told them they couldn't and explained what was happening with Veygas (personally I would have rathered he didn't cause I didn't really want to alarm people) and that we didn't want him getting stressed / over stimulated etc so FIL says they'll come on Saturday instead. DP says if sunday isn't good, what makes you think saturday will be ok, and now IL's are all offended that we don't want them here.

Re: Stanthorpe, for some reason, I want to move there ... DP says I don't know what it's like, but when I first moved here (before I met him) I had no freakin idea where the place even was, all I knew is that this is where I wanted to live. I have that same feeling about Stanthorpe now! Call me crazy, but sometimes I just gotta go with the flow! :rolleyes:

:hello: to Mel, Pixie & Bear, MT, Rachel, Sasha, Leasha, Kel, Vic, Squidipa ... have I forgotten anyone? Oh yeah, Katti, hope you and Shane are doing well ... sorry if I've missed anyone!

Good morning everyone!

OMG, we have gone quiet!!!! :O We even got bumped to page 2!!!

Well, i have been up since 4am - I think Veygas's hernia is giving him grief - he hadn't fed since 2am and spent from 4am screaming, even a warm bath didn't calm him down, but I think it helped a little bit :dunno: ... got him to feed again at 8am (finally!) and although he whinged a fair bit, I was able to put him back to bed and calm him enough so that he sleeps. I think the panadol I gave him at 6.30am may have helped ...

So I am feeling a bit like a zombie atm, but so much housework to do - dishes to be done, washing to be folded, floors to be steam mopped (they have been neglected for 6 weeks!! aaargh! :doh:) and all I wanna do is sleeeeeeeeeep :rolleyes:

Oh well, hope y'all are having a better day than me so far!

Morning MM and everyone!
Well, we took Beth to the doctors this morning for her cold. It was freezing cold and pouring with rain so I wasn't happy having to take her out. And the doctor said basically we were doing everything we can for her and there is nothing else he can do! so it was a bit of a waste of time but at least we got some reassurance that we are doing everything possible for her. Not much going on around here except a whole lotta snot!
Hope everyone else's day is a bit more glamourous! LOL!

MM I so hear you about inlaws and family members. On the case of not wanting to to worry them we didnt tell anyone that Josh was he is deaf he doesnt respond to loud noises only vibrations. We didnt tell anyone about he crooked winkie. Goods luck for monday:hug:

We had a weight gain on Thursdays:dance: weigh in but baby book is in care so cant yet tell you what that is. As the EX came ova today and fixed my boot lock and the seals on my car and we cant open doors till tomorrow. So tomorrow ill give ya the details as i have to take kids to their dads for fathers day and will be opening the car anyhow.

Dr we saw on thursday was real good :D and thourah. He said that there were signs of an infection and high protein levels and other stuff in my blood work. He thinks its kidney stones. Oh gosh i hope not had them before. he told em to stop taking the antibiotics as there not working and try an antihistamine. As for protien heck i dont eat enough meat normally and everything he said have you been eating this and that the answer was all no nope. The 3 year old we believe has asthma so he has a script for a puffer.

I am exausted run down and feeling real flat :( my iron levels were not so great either i am already taking 4 teaspoons of fiber a day to compensate for the iron so now it will have to be at least 6.:wall: i think i might need to swollen a blinking freight train to keep this ***** moving:cryinglaugh:

Oh BTW josh started rolling at 1 month 1 day.:dance: It was also then that he started communicating differently with squeals. Question the dr i went to seems to think that even tho ya boob goes soft after feeding he reckons its not outa milk and i should feed till no more milk comes outa that boob. Its blinking aweful i dont think i make enough as when it goes soft there is still milk there but its bloody hard to get josh to stay attached to a very floppy soft over pliable thing its sorta like trying to put jelly in ya end of ya pinky and expecting it to stay there and not slip around and move:rolleyes:. Any one else get this issue???

Vic... my mother inlaw once said to me and the Ex hubbie go out i will watch your daughter and gave us a date. We felt almost pushed into it. We had to drive for 40 mins to drop her off. And the mother in law was like go see a move have time together. Nice thought really it was. But we also wernt ready we would have loved just to rest at home and not even gone out. We waisted a whole day. We took her to the grandmothers house and drove to the local shop and sat there for 3 hours doing nothing as we didnt have any money for lunch or anything as we used it all up in petrol getting out to the inlaws place. Not that we told her that. But back then money was real hard for us. We had no savings at all. Hope you sort this out soon with a desition your comfortable with.

Hello everyone else sorry if i missed you. I wish josh had a routine in the day. I cant seem to get anything done or anything busted my but doing tea last night and i burnt it Grrrr!

Gudism want to meet thursday morning? if so what time would suit you and where in the morayfield shops ay want to meet?

Happy fathers day every ones DH and DF and happy fathers day Shell!

Kel you free to meet to on Thursdays or leasha too if gudism doesnt mind???? Meeting at Morayfield shops k

Oh and just as an add on finally its been over 3 years and we have finally put 4 claim's in for criminal comp there is still more to do and w are asking for an extension on it but have put what is so far completed in so far. This is a huge step for us and in October we start, well start to try to start, adoption so things are going to get very emotionally tough for us here, so everyone whom prays in this group .... please keep us in your prayers.!!!

Happy fathers day to all the new daddy's and Shel!!

Hope everyone has a great day!

so just a very quickie, what did you get the fathers?
i got hubbie the proof set of 1980 nz coins his birth year
kids got him candle, and a gift basket full of cow bath stuff. Very thoughtful because he is not a fix i person and he odes use all my nice stuff. Plus the gift basket had cows on it and he grew up on a dairy farm. he also got another gift boxed set of bath stuff too.

GUESS WHAT!!! we put the clock up yesterday FINALLY had it boxe4d since MAY :rolleyes: Just gotta charge the batterie's for it now :)

hopefuly we will be going to weigh joshie again today
gotta scoot bye
have a great day!!!

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Squidipa did i read that right>??? Are you adopting more children??? or do you mean DH is going to adopt some of yours??
How was everyone's father's day? Ours was OK, went for lunch with my dad and his family and then the Bear's parents came over for dinner, so the poor Bear had to cook a huge meal. But it was absolutely delicious. I got the Bear a Bill Bailey DVD - felt a bit bad because with Beth being sick I really haven't had a chance to get him something nice. But I hope he knows that Beth and I think he is the best daddy in the world.
My dad rang at 8.00 yesterday morning to say happy father's day to the Bear which I thought was really sweet. He was very cute with Beth at lunch yesterday too, carrying her around the restaurant and saying to everyone "have you seen my granddaughter? Isn't she beautiful?" it was really nice.
Anyway, hope everyone had a great day. Got midwife coming shortly so gotta scoot... but :hello: to all

The big news for the weekend was that we managed to find a device that deals with blocked noses in newborn infants properly - it's about twenty times for effective than the little fess bulb thingy and causes much less distress, we picked it up on Sunday morning and that made the rest of father's day go a whole heap better without having to listen to Beth snuffling, wheezing and coughing.