Babies Born December 1st ~ 15th 2008

[littlelalla75]

ll80 - yeah i thought that's what it would do (indent) and that was my main reason for not putting it on him. omg ochre blows dribble bubbles too!!! i think tomorrow i'll pop it on him for his awake time...i don't know what his problem is atm but he's not doing long sleep stints in the night and wants boobie every 3 hours but only wants it 4 hourly (sometimes 5 hourly) during the day now!!??! surely he hasn't got his day and nights mixed up??

sararose - thanks hon - oh let me know how the trip to the gold coast goes. we are planning a holiday there very soon as hubby is keen to move there!!!! he's thinking Palm Beach/Currumbin/Elanora way. i've only briefly been there (Coolangatta) so can't really remember it that well. such a big move and no family up there so it's not a decision we can make lightly. wish i had a crystal ball at times like these

kitt3n - she just loves your cuddles too much hon i know what u mean though - i can only get on here when ochre is napping. even when i'm breastfeeding him and i start talking he begins to play up as if to say 'oii mum...no talking while im feeding!" very cheeky

skyeblue - a teething necklace is a necklace made up of small baltic amber beads that babies and young children wear. baltic amber is reputed to help ease teething pain, fight toxic free radicals, as well as boost the immune system of the wearer

[Novella]

Hi girls
aimee is still a great night sleeperand I ams till waking up with sore full breasts, hence why I am up now even though she is asleep. I gave in this morning and have gotten up and pumped off 150ml of bm and still feel full! and now I cant get back to sleep. Oh well, better than not enough milk I guess. Aimee is deliberately rolling onto her side now to try and get to me, I love it she is also starting to giggle it is so beautiful. I cant believe how strong she has gotten, she can now sit with a little help. They just grow up so quick

I think the jealousy thing has settled over all but Jasmine has worked out that when I am feeding Aimee I am stuck in the chair and she likes to push the boundaries and do lots of things she knows she isnt allowed. Too smart for her own good Im sure she just wants some attention but it can be frustrating. I try and make bf time book time for jasmine

Just curious for those mums still bf does your bub look at you during feeds, I see all these lovely nursing photos with bubs looking at mums lovingly and aimee and jasmine both stared at my armpit lol. I think my nipples might be angled sideways a bit, not centred on my breast. And aimee concentrates so hard on her feeding at first I dont think she is even thinking about mum then she gets all drowsy

kitten- they know when you want to do something dont they lol, Aimee sits on my lap sometimes when I am on the computer and tries to grab the table, she concentrates so hard on it

[littlelalla75]

Ochre stares at my arm pit too. I don't know how u would get bubs to look at you while feeding - it's not very comfortable. the brief times Ochre has looked up at me he has stopped feeding so i'd rather he stare at my armpit lol what a strong little girl!! u will have to get some pics. gotta run - it's tea time for ochre and he is making sure everyone knows about it. oh his tooth has disappeared back into the gum!! i've heard of this happening to other babies - maybe it decided it's not ready for the world yet lol xx

[**Helen**]

Hi guys, been a long time. Have been super busy and was unsure for a long time about what group to join as the twins were born on Oct 26. However they are meeting developmental milestones that match their edd 13 Dec. So even though Gabriel and Tallulah are quite a bit older, I hope that you dont mind me joining in as I like to make sure that they are still doing the right things and sharing experiences etc.

I havent read a lot of what has happened, but am hoping to catch on from here if that is ok with all of you?

Take care and I hope your bubbas are sleeping well for you.

[littlelalla75]

Welcome back Helen Great to hear from you hon! I can imagine how super busy you are....life with 3 is definitely busy for me! There are a lot of us in here with Nov babies so don't worry about the twins being older. It's really nice to keep talking with the same girls...I was also posting in the Nov thread but haven't for awhile now as it's mainly the Nov due date girls in there now.
We had a record sleep from Ochre the other night! He did 8pm to 4am which was just incredible...my other two boys were at their grandparents having a sleep over so i also got a great sleep in too Hope u are all going well xx

[**Helen**]

Thanks Laura.

Wow what a great sleep from Ochre. Bonus having the boys looked after. I hope you didnt wake too much waiting for Ochre to wake up.

Well I think the twins are having a growth spurt. All they want to do is drink. Gabriel gets really worked up and beetroot red when he is hungry and you are taking your time, whereas Tallulah keeps on crying and if you pick her up, she is really stiff and she punches and pinches she gets so worked up.
They both smile all the time, Gabriel is a real talker.

Hope you are all well.

[Novella]

Hi helen great to hear from you
things are quiet here again? These bubbas are keeping everyone busy. Aimee is doing so well she will be 4 months on wednesday, its gone so fast! She just loves being part of whatever is happening, very interested on the world around her. She is still refusing EBM but I shall keep trying. Hope everyone is well

[Nadine216]

Hi :wave:

I'm jumping in here, can't seem to find the Babie buddies for 16-31 Dec Hope ya don't mind me joining.

I gave birth to my DS via c/section on the 17th of Dec. He weighed 3.525kg and are a beautifull, healthy little boy.

I just want to hear what other babies his age are doing and how their mommies are coping with the kiddies.

[Skyeblue]

hi guys

Nadine, welcome! I did see that group but it has fallen to the 2nd page I think but you can join here too of course!

Sara- you are so lucky for getting good sleeps. Yep, you are right they grow sooo fast, it is sad in a way, but I am enjoying watching every new thing Mia does.

Littlelalla- how are Ochres sleeps now? I hope he is still sleeping for a while for you! Thanks for explaining the necklace, Id be too scared to put one on Mia because of choking, but it would be ok while she was awake I guess


Hiya Helen, great to hear from you! We have all joined this group,Mia was born Nov 15th but this was my belly group, so I just joined this baby group too because I know everyone. Hope you guys are doing well x

Kitten- hehe always the way isnt it, just as you start to do something, they cry!

We are going well here, last night was a bit blah though, she was unsettled and crying but finally went to sleep at 9, woke at 12am but then slept til 6. I dont get the 12am wake, she never wakes that early.
She has been a bit grumpy and unsettled in the last week, little outbursts of screaming! Not sure what it is. She loves blowing bubbles, drooling everywhere, and her gums are really ridgy...maybe the start of teething??

Have her 4 month needles on Sat, I made it Sat so DH can come too, I was a mess after her 2 month ones, need some support this time lol!

How is everyone? Hope you are all well xx

[Kitt3n]

OK......... I am here in this thread, and am going to do my post even if she cries! LOL

no tears yet......

well how is everyone?

laaa is doing really well - almost 6 kgs, smiling, happy, content - we got her first real laugh out of her last week! On DD1's birthday, i told her it was her bday present. She really cracked up - but hasnt really done it again! ah well. but when she cries she really, really cries. I need to get anotehr sling, the HAB and the mei teis I have just dont cut it in comparison to the close carrier, i need two so this one can have a wash!

we are still co sleeping, bfing, slinging it etc.... and she hasnt worn a single sposie, very proud here my mornnings have become a little easier as a neighbour now tkaes DD1 to school - ah so much nicer than a hurried walk every morning!

Left laa for the first time ever on saturday night, with DH, first time expressing and didnt even give it a shot first. I figured if i was here she would be less likely to take it KWIM? So DH did well, i came home and they were both asleep Took DD1 to see Abba Mania for her birthday, it was really awesome!

SB - could be teethting hun. i thought laa was for a while but its just so hard to tell. she looks cute in her amber necklace though (hubby bought us matching ones for valentines!)

sararose - laaa is the same, sling is so handy! she is very alert and inquisitive - doesnt miss anything.

helen - your twins sound so cute. DD1 has told me "mummy, you need to have another baby and then after that can you please have twins? "

little l - whoa great sleeper there! matisee goes down around 9pm and gets up at 7/8, but she does have 2 dream feeds (one of each boob) through the night. I still just plonk the boob in her mouth and go back to sleep though

and the armpit thing - oh if laa did that it would be great, she is too busy checking everythig out or smiling at me to have a proper feed! She looks up at me, does the most amazing heartwarming smile and i just cant help but smile back at her, then she pulls off and just wants to chat.

its the end of the post and SUCCESS! she has fallen asleep on the lounge. off to make use of the time!!

[ll80]

HI all
Welcome Nadine and WB Helen
Elise has just gone to sleep this morning phew!!!
So hard trying to get her into a workable routine that doesn't see her absolutely exhausted before she falls asleep.
With work/school pick ups and drop offs it's hard for her to get enough sleep by the end of the day she is beside herself.
Her problem is as soon as she is moved she will wake up. Abby would stay asleep and was very portable but Elise is opposite, as soon as she is disturbed she is up and alert, even if she is tired.
On the up side she is sleeping from about 7pm til 7am, will give her a dream feed at 9-10ish, sometimes she won't even have that. First few nights my poor boobs were exploding but my supply seems to have sorted itself out. Not leaking too much anymore except for the mornings sometimes.
At 11 weeks she was 5.970kg and 62 cms, long little girl.

Kitten - we had giggles once too a couple weeks ago but havent been able to get them out of her again. Awesome you got some time away to spend with DD1. I really need to do that with my DD1, she feels a bit neglected I think sometimes with Elise permanently attached to my arm.
Does your little laa always wear her teething necklace? I have one here but haven't put it on Elise much yet.

Speaking of which Elise has a bit of tooth poking out but it's at the side, not a front tooth, I don't thnk it's a molar maybe eye tooth or something. Will have to get it checked out. She is always desperate to put things in her mouth, her hands just haven't caught up with being able to put things in there yet so most of the time she chews on her sleeves. ICK!

Oh and she rolled for the first time on Sunday from her tummy to her back, so cute!! She was so proud of herself lol.

I won a competition where they do your hair and make up and you get photos done. so we are doing that on SUnday, which will be nice, i think I have had make up on three time in my almost 29 yrs lol so that should be interesting.

With the feeding Elise has become a fidgeter. She looks at my armpit but her octopus arms are everywhere. She has taken to pushing my boob with her free hand and pressing it down, so she then loses suction and the nipple comes out. grrrrrrrrrrrrr I need a baby straight jacket. She does it over and over, I am not sure if she is trying to get more out of it as she tends to do it alot more after she has been on for about 5 mins so maybe she is getting frustrated at the milk running out.
no issue with supply or weight gain though so I think she is just a very efficient feeder.

Btter sign off before this becomes an epic lol
Hope you all are well and bubbas are happy

Laura

[Nadine216]

Thanks for the welcome guys

I don't breastfeed He sucked me raw in two days and I tried to express, but the milk was all bloody and my nipples were not healing. And not like strawberry milkshake bloody, I mean red cordial bloody. I just felt bad about giving it to him and I had issues with him hurting me so much at latching and during feeds, that I made the decision to FF so that I can bond with him in a relaxed atmosfeer. I was crying each time I had to put him on the boob, so instead of resenting him for hurting me, I just did what I thought best and started formula. He does not seem to mind and are perfectly healthy and we are bonding better and I am MUCH more relaxed. I'm sad that I don't breastfeed and now reading all the post about mommies that do, I feel like I should have tried harder. I knew that when I made the decision to stop my boobs were sore, I did not like my baby and I was in a state, but somehow I now feel that I should have persisted. I should have just bit down and bear the pain to get through the first three weeks. On the other hand, DH love that he can feed ds and that I am not crying every feed.

It's weird for me to experiance this baby. This is a "real" baby. I love that you can wake him up just before you go to bed, give him a bottle, change is diper, break some wind, get some smiles and just pop him back into bed and he is off to dreamland for a night of sound sleeping. Ok he still wakes between 3 or 4 for a feed, but I don't mind, because afterwards he goes back to sleep without me having to rock/shhh/cuddle/sing him to sleep. I love that you can pop him on a blanket in the kitchen and have him actually enjoy looking at his toys, so that I can cook and bake. And I LOVE that sometimes I turn around because he stopped chatting and I would see that he has fallen asleep. I love that I can read his hungry and sleepy signs. OMG and he is heavy!! He weighs about 6kg now and I am really really glad that he does not need to be "walked" to sleep. DD were about 7 months before she weighted 6kg, so this is truely a new experiance and I'm loving it!!

DD were prem. She was in hossy for a month and I expressed BM for her. She came home, but did not smile till around three/four months. She was colicy and had silent reflux and was crying permanently. She did not sleep if she were not held and she drove me and DH bonkers. For the four months I was at home with her, I sat on the couch and held her. I could do next to no chores around the house, because I had to constantly hold dd. We had no sleep and no clue as to what to do with her. To be honest we are still struggeling with her sleeping and she is not sleeping through ... or even in her own bed .. not that we mind Nothing nicer that a little girl curling up in your arm at 3am in the morning

Anyway ... I also got some chuckle's twice, but have not been able to get him to do it again.

Can I ask a really weird question .. going to anyway. For those of you that now had your second/third child ... did you love that child straight away? I feel like such a bad mother for not loving my ds from the moment he was born. I liked him .. I think I liked him, but I did not feel half the love towards him that I felt towards my first born and she was the "difficult" baby. I even feel that he is taking away me-and-dd-time. I wanted this baby, but ... I don't know. I am growing to love him now, my heart melts when he give me those gummy-smiles. I just need to know that I will love him as much as I do dd.

Should they be starting to roll over now?? I know ds can go from his side to his back and to his side again, but no rolling over yet. Hmmm will have to check him out over the weekend, more tummy time.

[Novella]

Hi Nadine, not a weird question with both my DD I have fallen in love with them over time. I felt something for them from the start but it has grown so much stronger as time has passed.

You poor thing, your nipples sounded so painful, I can understand that you might feel disapointed that you didn't contiune with breastfeeding but it doesn't mean you made the wrong choice. It sounds like you have a good sleeper there. Aimee can roll from her back to her side but not over completely yet and she is 4 months tomorrow. She was due 8th dec but came 4 weeks early so I have joined this baby buddies group to keep up with the same girls from the belly buddies group.

Well Aimee woke up for the first time during the night last night in 2 months. DF has a sore throat and Im sure she does too she was screaming everytime she swallowed I felt so sorry for her. Baby panadol worked wonders but I think tonight might be another sleepless night. I hope it doesnt last long. Its so horrible when they are i pain and dont know why and you cant explain it to them

[Nadine216]

Poor Aimee, I hope she feels better real soon ... and your DH. And I hope they don't spread the "love" around so you get sick

Thanks for the support and for answering my question. I am sure that in time I'll love him just as much, it's just that DH is asking me constantly if I love him already and he makes remarks that I don't give as much attention to ds as I did with dd. But in my defence (and I have told him) dd were so small and this one is just growing up overnight by himself. I could be a bit oversensitive also, just because it's bothering me. I should just sit back, relax and let time do it's thing.

[Skyeblue]

Hey Nadine we are FF here too. It was the best choice for us at the time, but you are right, Im always thinking if only Id tried a little harder, etc. But I have accepted it, and bub and I are both happy because of it. Feeding is a relaxed and happy experience now.
Sorry I cant offer any experiences about a second child, DD is my first, but it sounds like you are doing a wonderful job. And of course you arent spending as much time with DS because you also have DD to look after, and when DD was a baby she had colic.

ll80- wow, 7-7 now that's a sleep I dream of. At the moment M is going to bed at 8, dream feed at 11, then sleeping til 4/5, feed then awake at 7ish. So not too bad, but I dream that one day she will sleep through! lol.

Sara- I hope little Aimee is ok poor thing Glad the panadol worked.

M is laughing alot, it is sooo cute. Absolutely no signs of rolling, heck she can barely lift her head while doing tummy time. I dont think I do tummy time enough... will do it when she wakes lol.

It's DHs bday today, I have planned a dinner of pesto & sundried tomato chicken and roast potatoes....his favourtite meal. Not so good for the waist line though hehe.

It's our last Mothers group today, have you all finished yours? Not sure if we are meeting up after...

[ll80]

oh Nadine don't feel bad one little bit about FF your beautiful little bub, you are doing what is best for you and your family, that is all we can do.
Elise is my second bub and it certainly is different this time around. When she was born I had a definite feeling of needing to protect and nurture but the love has come gradually, I am enjoying Elise alot more though, I am more relaxed maybe becauise I know no matter how fussy or whingy sheis, how little she sleeps, that it will pass and it will all be ok.

Skye - that sinner sounds yummy, want to make me some too lol.
Don't stress about tummy time, I think I have out Elise on the floor maybe 4 times lol on her tummy, she is just a very strong little bub. I was so surprised when she rolled as she is literally never out of someones arms unless she is in the cot, pram, sling. she has been able to hold her head up from about 2 weeks on her own for long periods of time, so don't go by Elise she is not the so called "norm"
They all go at their different rates and once they are up and about rolling, sitting etc you will want them to be oh so nice and floppy and cuddly again

[Nadine216]

Thanks Skye & II80

Happy Bday to Mr Skyeblue Hope he apreciates his dinner. How bout you come around my house tomorrow and cook me that dinner too I'll make it my bday tomorrow

We have limited tummy time too. Thing is I have to WATCH him if he is on his tummy and with me working and only really seeing them after day-care, I want to look him in the eye as much possible. And honestly .. these old bones don't like laying on the floor eye-level for little bubs

They all go at their different rates and once they are up and about rolling, sitting etc you will want them to be oh so nice and floppy and cuddly again

DITTO!!!!

DS has also been able to hold his head up since about two/three weeks. He is really strong. That surprised me, because I did not know babies can be that strong this young.

[Skyeblue]

Lol Nadine, sure! I LOVE cooking! When DD was born I didnt cook for the first few weeks, it was very hectic, but I missed it so much. now Im right back into it! I missed cooking and reading, didnt get time to do either, but now I do thankfully.

I feel a bit better about the tummy time now, I guess I put it off because she doesnt like it. But her neck is strong like when I carry her over my shoulder she lifts her head right up.

We just wen out to the shops and I bought a massive coffee, now I am buzzing! hehehe.

How does everyone get their little ones to sleep during the day>? Mia used to go down ok, but recently has started to scream and protest as soon as I lie her down. This morning I had to go in 6 times before she fell asleep. Should I just persevere with going in every 5 mins to put the dummy in and stroke her head? I figure doing this is better than picking her up, dont want to start that one! hehe.