Babies Born December 2007 #20

[MistyFying]

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There are many issues that you will encounter as a new parent. We have put together this list of useful articles and threads in order to assist you with some common questions or issues you may have, and to provide you with bit of extra support that we all need as new parents:

Feeding Support:

Breastfeeding General Chatter
Breastfeeding FAQ's
Is My Baby Hungry?
Baby Formula - What Manufacturers Don't Want You To Know
Bottlefeeding FAQ's and Useful Information
Is Feeding Your Baby Taking Too Much Time?
Bottlefeeding General Chatter
Feeding Your Baby
Lactose Intolerance
Starting Solids/Homemade Baby Food
Starting Solids - When Is My Baby Ready?
Starting Solids General Chatter

Please contact the Australian Breastfeeding Association (ABA) or a Lactation Consultant if you are concerned that you may have breastfeeding and/or supply problems, and before the introduction of solids or formula.

Sleeping Support:

Comforted Sleeping & Sleep Issues Forum
Comforting Tools to Aid Restful Sleep
Babies & Sleep
Controlled Crying/Comforting/Sleep Training
The Con of Controlled Crying
The Crying Game
15 Ways To Help Your Baby Sleep

Other Useful Information & Recommended Reading:

Baby Massage
Cuddle Me Mum
Infant-led Feeding & Weaning
Baby Wearing
Recommended Reading List

Got questions?

Post your questions in the forums mentioned above, or in the following forums where you're sure to receive many friendly responses!

General Baby & Toddler Forum
Breastfeeding, Bottlefeeding and Solids
Gentle Parenting Forum

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[Trish]

Aww Nic, that is a crappy night. I do know the solution. Medication !! But seeing as how it's not a ncie thing for us to use I guess we all have to put up with it.

Tehya has been up since 4.30 this morning and is still going !! She's got to crach and burn sometime soon.

[aussienic]

I don't want to put up with it anymore **pout**

I sometimes think of introducing a bottle of formula at night.. I don't think she is waking from hunger though as she rarel feeds or has small feeds if she does.. She just likes to wake up kwim?/

[Liz]

Hey girls. Not a great night here either. We were up for over an hour at 3am with her screaming. Pretty sure it's wind pain. Gave her nurofen anyway tho because her top tooth is slooooooowly pushing through, but it didn't really help. Tallon was awake that whole time too, and he was trying to help. It was so sweet. She settled for a little bit while lying on her tummy across my legs and he was there patting her hair and giving her kisses and putting her dummy back in. I couldn't help but let him stay & help. So sweet. Normally he sleeps through the ruckus.

Of course she's up playing happy as larry now, and my eyes are hanging out my head. That wasn't the only wakeup, but it was the only one that took ages to settle her. So I dunno how many times I actually woke. Anyway... we survive.

Had a mini breakdown yesterday. Attempted a mummy sicky but alas, still had to clean the kitchen and do washing, and prompt DH to do stuff for the kids and around the house. It just got me down. We're having a few issues with DH not bonding with Kayla too. He cannot stand her screams and he says when she smiles at him or anything he feels a wall come up. He feels bad about it, and doesn't understand why it's different with her than it was with Tallon. He did take a while with Tallon, coz he's clueless with babies, and he bonded once Tallon interacted more.. but with Kayla he actively dislikes her.. if that makes sense. Anyway, it affects our relationship when he's like this with her, coz it just breaks my heart.

Anyway, we had a little talk last night about me feeling like a single mum most of the time, and how unsupported I feel around the house etc etc. He immediately wanted to get up and clean the entire house for me.. argh. He just doesn't get it. I don't really get it either I spose, lol.. coz I know it goes deeper than having him clean the house for me, but I dunno what's gonna fix it. I suggested perhaps he needs professional help re how he feels about Kayla. So we might look into something for that. I looked up Relationships Australia and they have sessions for fathers.. dunno what's involved tho. I looked up male PND too, but I don't think it's that.

Anyway, I'm giving him help with WHAT to do with her.. he doesn't even play with her when she's happy - no wonder he can't stand her when she screams! (and it really is a horrible scream). So he managed a few awkward games with her yesterday, and he bathed her last night. So hopefully things might improve if I MAKE him get more involved. We probably have slipped into the habit of me having her and him having Tallon.

Whoa sorry girls. It's like I just lay down on the couch and let it all out! LOL. But it's nice having this little group.. don't have to post such a public post to let it all out

Trish - hope Abbey is better soon, poor little chook. Kayla had a temp for a couple of days, but it didn't seem to develop into anything. She had a couple of coughs but that's about it. Tallon's got a cold at the moment, but nothing too bad, just a cough and runny nose.

Hi everyone else. Will come back later no doubt, so will try and catch up then.

[Liz]

Hey Trish - our girls are the same weight now? I don't think Kayla is in the 25th percentile tho? hmm.. should have a look. But then her weights are done on corrected age, so she was checked as 8mths old.. not 9 1/2 months. So that puts her nearly a month younger than Abbey. Ugh.. the whole thing is dumb if you ask me. LOL. I reckon we should just go by how many rolls are on their thighs LOL.

[Buzzie]

Hey liz - feel free to let it out, its wat where here for

Omg i cant believe all these sick babies
Last night was a little better, Ash is really sick with a cold now and i have a sore throat. I think mum bought something home as her boss was really sick too.
Everytime ash coughed he cried cos it hurt his throat.. poor little thing...

Off to see a natrapath at the preggy centre. hope this helps him!!!

[aussienic]

Liz.. i don't have any advice but I am sure it helps even just a little to write it all down..

I am so sick to death of Simon not helping either. I hate getting handed he crying baby everytime and being told she wants boob.. yes when she was a newborn maybe but for petes sakes.... before she was a little cranky and I thought stuff it and went and sat in the bathroom for half and hour Simon got her to sleep without "the boob" oh and I am not a COW.. MIL words.. she always says here come the cow.. or if Olivia cries She wants the cow *sigh*

I got this house looking all sparkling last week and Simon came home and said how lovely it looked. i said lets attempt to keep it this way.. I said I need your help to maintain it. Of course the house looks like crap now. I just did the dinner dishes and I need to vac and mop while Olivia is napping. Isaac is sick with the vomits now.. and where is Simon...............chooses to go out now.. yes he has to pay bills but he didn't take Jacob cus he had to get in and out of the car a few times.. well ****e hey!! seriously how difficult is it to take a ONE child with you.. I manage 4 on my own and he complains abut one..

Anyways sorry for the ramble but it does feel good to let it out.. I need to go clean this bloomin house again..

I am sick of vomit and sick of kids snotty noses.. sick of housework.. sick of doing it all while Simon gets to go out on hiw own or do exercise or whatever the heck he wants..

amazing he is home already.. better go

[Lolli]

Hi all,
What a beautiful day it is in Sydney Even warm enough to open the`windows`and let some air in the house.

Trish- Abby and Ty are pretty much exactly the same size. He's put on not much at all in the last two months either. But is healthy looking and happy enough so

Lauren- Good luck with naturopath, hope it helps.

Nic- Am so sick of the nights. I've been contemplating a ff before bed too, but I'm in the same boat- not sure it'll help, he just likes to wake. Might try it anyway, can't hurt. I was enjoying saying he's never had formula though.

Liz- Let it all out, that's what we are here for. What a rotten situation to be in.

Hmm... I'm sposed to be doing training at work tomorrow, sposed to start at eight thirty am. Which would mean dragging Ty out of bed at 5am, dropping him off with MIL and driving two hours in peak hour to get there, then hour and a half home. For three hours training. And Ty hates being with the MIL. I'm not sure it's worth it... I think I might call them and say I'm not coming. I am worried they will fire me but I figure I'm only doing 5 hours a week so surely I could pick that up somewhere else closer to home. And Ive got tickets to the ballet on Wednesday, so I'll have to leave Ty with MIL for that too. Two days in a row... nup I can't do it to the poor little chop.

ETA- Nic- Hear hear!! Dh does the same... convientantly excuses himself when anything gets too tough and doesn't seem to understand that there is no cleaning fairy... it's actually me picking up after him!

[aussienic]

how come he doesn't like your MIL.. Kinda made me giggle

[Lolli]

I'm not quite sure Nic but I'm not a big fan of her either so I don't blame him She's just loud and quite abrupt- dh and I are really laid back so he's not used to all the noise and commotion. And she doesn't seem to understand the concept of putting the baby to sleep so he won't sleep all day. Normally when I pick him up from her he is sobbing in great big gulps breaks my heart.

[Buzzie]

Hi all, Had a great apt with the natrapath! She says Ash has a build up of too much mucus on his stomach - explains the mucusy poos. And issues with his spleen as he drools to much and has alot of fluid. hes gonna start some natrual herbs stuff to clear out his system and get rid of all the gunk which will help with the wind. Will take 1-2weeks but cant wait!! i felt so happy and confident in her.. if this works im hoping he can start sleeping through the whole night.

[BellyBelly]

Sharmaine is a traditional chinese medicine practitioner who does paediatrics

[Tinsel]

Excellent Buzzie, sounds really positive! Hope it works for little Ash.

Well, I was almost over pushed over the edge today. This morning started out ok except that Monique was really unstable last night so any little noise woke her (doesn't help that I have a terrible cough) and I wanted 10 more minutes sleep in. Anyway, I mentioned before that she has been squealing very loudly and this afternoon she just wouldn't stop. I tried to entertain her, feed her, change her - anything. I had to put her in her cot to scream because I was at my tether. After a few minutes I picked her up and she finally had a lovely cuddle with me on the lounge watching play school and then finally had a sleep (she had been up for 2.5 hours). I always said I didn't want to be like my mother who snaps but today I was that little bit close to being her. Thank goodness DH helped out a little tonight and we played tag team. She wants to be cuddled to sleep as well and I was happy to when she was sick with a cold but she wants to be cuddled all the time, even the early hours of the morning. On the plus side, she has finally stopped biting at feeds (it went on for a month!).

Has anyone tried out a child seat on their bike? Are they any good? I like the trailers but they are so big and we don't have the space.

Lori, I say skip the training esp if you are only doing 5 hours per week. I'm sure someone can get you up to speed if it is something you need to know. All that travel and mucking around doesn't seem worth it. Monique doesn't really like my MIL either and we aren't sure why. It's terrible when MIL takes Monique for a cuddle and the little bottom lip drops and she starts howling. We have had separation issues with Monique but after being with the in laws on Friday, she might be getting over it a little thank goodness as we need babysitters in a couple of weeks. Let me know what the ballet is like. I have always wanted to go.

I better be off to get some sleep. Night.

[kitten2b]

LoriRae - I would skip the session as well, no point upsetting your little boy.

Sofia has had wind lately and has been very cranky but at least she ate a CC today, still won't drink her breastmilk, but will have it in cereal so she is getting some liquid, I give her a big bf when I get there and another when I pick her up, today however she cried the whole way from Kemps Creek to kensington unless I sing twinkle twinkle, I used to sing it to Maria heaps when I was pregnant and now it is the only song Sofia will settle to.

[Trish]

Liz, for you huni. I have been in a very similar situation with my DP and Tehya. He was sooooo standoffish with her for so damn long it wasn't funny. Used to do my head in. He would make precious little effort to help with her or look after her. Even now you can see that Noah is his clear favorite. I am at him often for the wat he treats and talks to Tehya. Tha being said, to Tehya, daddy is just the best. DP can't fart without Tehya being there. Now when she wakes overnight it's not me she calls out to it's daddy. It's him that goes and sleeps in bed with her.

That was Abbey's weight on the 9month scale. And yes, I agree with the thigh rolls. Abbey has a few of them. We were so sure she'd gained a heap, she looks much chubbier, even her face is nice and round. When will they start doing Kayla on her birth age ? If that's what they call it. LOL.

I was so worried about how he was going to be with Abbey, especially with the rocky start we had when she was conceived. He was more actively involved in her birth and I have made sure he has no choice in being involved in her care. I will get her bath clothes ready and leave her with him, go jump in the bath and make him bring her to me. That way he has to get her out and dressed. Or I get him to feed her her food.

I think yes, one of the best ways to get your DH more "interested" in Kayla is to get him to start helping out with her. Maybe you can take Tallon out and leave Kayla with him for a hour or so. I think the counselling idea is great. Just a question, do you think it could be because she's a girl ? Just throwing it out there.

You know I am always up for a cuppa and a chat hun. We aren't that far from one another and it would be great to see you again.

Nic :hug for you too huni. Geez we are all having a crap time lately. For starters I'd be telling your MIL where to go. How damn rude. It doesn't matter if it's said in gest or not. Was she a breastfeeder ? I'd be tempted to say something like, Oh from one cow to another. Come on Olivia... I'm not known for being shy.
You were so happy last week with your clean house. I'm sorry it hasn't lasted. Somedays I just think what's the point, you give it a few hours and it's back to its natural state anyway. Around here, it's back to a pig sty before DP even walks in the door. Gives me the ****s.

LoriRae- I'm another one that says skip it. Aren't we all bad influences No point in upsetting Ty unless its completely necessary.

Tinsel, a for you too huni. Sometimes things just totally suck hey. I am with you though, I have a spit last night, say around 4am! Was sick of it only being me that deals with Abbey's nighttime crap. She is another one that wants to be cuddled all night long. Which I wouldn't have minded so much lastnight if she slept. But was was awake constantly too.
DP has a kids seat on his bike. I got him the bike and seat for Christmas 2 years back. My thinking was that he could take Noah out on his bike and Tehya could go in the the kids seat. Worked great too

Louise, buggar about Sofia not drinking during the day. Obviously she only likes booby milk in it's natural state hey. I drive singing twinkle twinkle too. Must sound like a complete twit. BTW, think it's time for a avatar update hun.

Lauren, fingers crossed it all works for Ash. I would have thought loads of drool at this age was normal. They are teething afterall.

As I said I had a crap night. Abbey was ridiculous and I am stuffed this morning. Despite my dummy spit at 4 am. DP ended up coming in and getting her (he's been sleeping on the lounge since his snip- no excuse now though) P's me off with him out there, I know he wouldn't be getting comfortable sleep, but atleast he doesn't have Abbey waking him every 30 minutes or so like she was lastnight. He brang her back in around 5.30 when he had to go for his shower. So I got some semi decent sleep between 4.30 and 5.30.

Mummy is not in a good mood today. Tehya has already spilt her weetbix all over the lounge - don't ask. Can't even sit at home and bum around. Tehya has swimming today.

Abbey is still grumpy, her temp was ok lastnight. One of the mums at school msged me yesterday to tell me that her 18 month old has slapped cheek. It's going around at Noah's school. I did wonder briefly if Abbey has that. Not bothering with the Dr though, it's not like anything can be done about it. Her cheek was red a few days back but I put it down to teething. LOL. Who know's hey.

Much love to all, today is another day. Hopefully better than the last...

[aussienic]

Tinsel: We have a bike seat and a trailer. The seat I can't ride the bike I just find it to heavy at the back.. The trailer well they fold flat small enough to go under a bed if need be or beside your bike kwim? And you need NO tools at all to put it back together ect

Louise: I hate when the kids cry in the car.. Does Sofia drink from a bottle or a cup at CC??

Trish: We all need to do something about these crap nights!! surely it can't go on forever!!! Sorry you can't just stay home and be grumpy..

Liz: How are things today

My night was ok I spose, olivia woke screaming at 10 but only took about 40 mins to go back to sleep. She woke again at 4 for an hour and we slept til 7 and now I feel super grumpy at the kids for no good reason Olivia won't stay in the lounge, Jacob is running around like a lunatic . Simon was meant to finish at midnight as he had a meeting this morning but someone called in sick so he had to work all night. I have no idea what time he ended up getting home but I know he left again at 7 as the kids were otu the front yelling as loud as possible goodbye , *sigh* I would have thought he would have woken me to tell me he was going and that the kids were awake.

plus we had a few things planned today as he wouldn't have gone to have a sleep till this afternoon (night shift tonight) oh well.. guess i will get on with most of it by myself.

Hope everyone else is good..

[Liz]

Thanks Trish. I can see how it's our own doing, coz we did slip into me doing everything for Kayla and DH watching Tallon while I do it. So we'll be making the effort more for him to at least have play time with her, if not doing more of the 'chores'. Plus we've let it slide so long because he did take a while to bond with Tallon too, so we were kinda giving it time. But she's a heap of fun these days, and he still hasn't bonded with her.

We were awake every hour on the hour last night. I saw the clock click over to 1am, 2am, 3am, 4am, 5am, 6am, 7am. How does she know when the hour is up I ask?? A couple of times were just a quick cuddle while she did some massive farts. And they were ones that really popped... like they sounded painful - iykwim. LOL. So some wakeups were only about 3 mins long. But OMG.. talk about chinese sleep torture. We haven't got a lazy day here either coz we're going to music lesson this morning.

*sigh*. Sorry, haven't got time to write to everyone.. hopefully I'll get some quiet time later today (ha! )

[BellyBelly]

Trish - Asher has been drooling bucketloads since I have known him LOL