my little man, Harris, was born on February 13th, at 11.36am. He weighed in at 8lb, 52cm long.
So far we aren't having any problems with feeding or milk supply. He is definitely putting on weight like a little champion.
As for sleep, he has been co-sleeping with us. I think it is working to give us all a bit better sleep and improved sanity. At night he wake every three to four hours - sometimes longer but
I don't mind.
I have noticed that he seems to be havng more awake time now - in the da he probably stays awake for 40min to an hour after a feed. Sometime i wonder what I should do with him when he is awake. I feel neglectful if I just leave him to it in the rocker.
I find I get a little bored at home all the time - haven't really figured out what i can do about it though.
Will try and keep up with all you girls and how you are going.
Hi ladies,ive been looking for this thread and only just found it yah!I know some of you from our belly buddies thread!My baby girl summer was born on the 5th of feb at 8pm weighing 5lb5 and 45 cms.The first 2 weeks were quite good but shes fallen into a bad pattern of crying when shes tired like she will cry and cry but refuse to fall asleep where as before she used to just sleep after a feed,now if shes been awake for a bit she will just cry,only way to get her off seems to be in our arms at the moment when she has these times,other than that things are good,i had a few concerns about breast feeding as i was worried she wasnt getting enough and was hungry and thats why she was crying but it seems to be weve worked out what the problem is so thats good.
Andjxx-Hi,I might have to try the co sleeping thing,we arent getting much sleep at night at all,she wakes up every 3 hours sometimes less.I feel as you do,i feel a bit bored being home and sometimes even lonely,maybe its just hormones but its a big difference i guess from work.
Blip-I hear you!Im so over not knowing who to listen too!Ive been told the same,wake her for feeds,no shes tired let her sleep bla bla,i think i have to work it out for myself,i give up otherwise!!Yes mine is doing the feeds for 40mins then awake but lately its then cry time then sleep but 3 hours if we lucky.I cant sleep really during the day.
Melaniekate-ive had those concerns too and everyone i spoke too(except 2 ladies i know old school who told me to stick her on formula)said to stick with it and your breasts will make enough milk,my sister told me sometimes you have lower milk in the day so bubs cluster feeds but later on during night etc builds up again,im not sure if any is right or true but i know how you feel,ive actually had formula and a bottle ready to go for the last 3 days worried she isnt getting enough off me,i just havent done it yet.Mines also wont suckle properly at times and like thrashes around and pulls herself off then looks for it again,its like shes fighting it but wants it,then i think is she not getting enough or is it the opposite and its coming too fast or is it something else??Sure wish they could tell us!Hang in there with me!The other night she took soooo long to settle i was just in tears all night.its gotta get better!
well i finally got her to sleep and am thinking should i try sleep also or finish brekky or clean up or get out of my nighty???sigh!Sorry girls its been a bad 2 nights,we'll get there!
Lachlan just won't settle anymore! He was always crying and nothing could settle him... not even mummy's milk! So he is on formula but I am also expressing as much as I can which isn't much!
Wow - I used to be on BB all the time. Having a baby certainly puts a stop to that (not that I mind) .
Welcome to the new mumma's joining our group. Andjxx - your bub Harris and mine share their birthdays. And welcome (again) 1pj - good to see you about. Glad you and your little girl are doing well. MelanieKate: You're doing everything you can for you little guy.
I have a spare moment while Oliver is sleeping, so I can update on how I'm doing.
Oliver is good most of the day, but of an evening/night he gets really fussy and wants to feed continuously and doesn't want to sleep. Then about midnight he'll go down for a sleep. I've asked the child health nurse about it, and she says it's actually quite common. I'm hoping it settles down soon - it's very tiring. We've had a few long night sleeps, but more recently he's waking every 3 hours in the night for a feed.
Feeding is going well - I'm still using a nipple shield due to my silly flat nipples. I'm trying (slowly) to stop using them. I've been using the shield to begin with until the nipple is drawn out, then take it off. Sometimes it works well, other times it doesn't (usually at night when he's really fussy). I'm assuming Oliver is getting plenty though - he still has heaps of wet and dirty nappies, and he's put on 220g in the past week. Definitely a growing lad - he doesn't look like he's drowning in his 0000 clothes now!
Oh, and we've had a few pea green nappies. I was worried about it at first, but from reading and asking the child health nurse, it seems it's pretty normal.
I think I'm coping okay with motherhood so far. Better than I thought I would actually. Oliver is a really good baby which helps a lot. The hardest thing for me is feeding in public - I haven't done it yet, we've managed to avoid it, but I'm nervous about it, cause with my huge boobs there's absolutely no modest way of doing things. I wish it didn't bother me so much.
'ello lovely ladies!
Pj- glad to see your doing good!
MelanieKate- at least your trying still! you can do it! i guess i'll sound like a nutter but..relax. take it easy and just let it happen. milk production is as much mental as is it physical! have you been into the breast feeding help and support part of the forum? that may help (its helped me the last 48hrs...)
Sterla - aww, im sure you'll be fine. i used the parentals room at the shops the other day...i think useing that will help build up confidsance. (even though its behind a curton..) i know i'm overly confadent with it after darrens stint in SCN - having several MW grabbing at by boobs trying to get him attached kinda takes the sting out of having 'em floped out! im glad to see oli's growing!
anthiea - Hello! glad to see your still around!
AFM: darren lost 10gs. my stupid MCHN made me feel like crud beucase of it. not to mention she made me freak out about the whole 'hydrated' caper over the weekend. she buggs me as i tried to point out i felt darren had grown longer (hes not a been pole...) and i tried to find out if the fact he is a strong little vegimite would have some kind of affecton waight gain. but she brushed it off as "thats not really applicable" for both but i got my own back X2! she told me if he didnt put on waight (im going to a b/f clinic thursday..) that we'd have to put him on formular. which made me cry...whilest darren was feeding and she goes "oh we better just take him off..." and i snaped at her and told her not to tuch him. she tried again and i said "JUST LEAVE HIM hes fine" which made her pull her head in. then when we talked about settleing him she told me to swaddle him, roll him on his side and stand at his back and pat it so he's settled and i turned around and said "thats just crule! i understand not looking at him...but not allowing him to see me? THATS WRONG. and far, far too much like the toby king methord!" she told me it was NOTHING like it. when i said "not much differance in the cold comfort of a blank wall or a swaddle is there?" but im feeling much better today. i feed him if he looks side ways at me. im waking him for feeds every 2.5 hrs (cus it takes half an hour to settle him) and he seems better for it! but he had his 'awake' time from 2:20pm untill 5 pm with three feeds in there (he seemed hugry and i wasnt going to make him wait!)
Ooo speaking of darren and sleeping...hes awake...im thinking wet nappy and dads settleing skills! hehe. chris will get better im sure
Hi Ladies, my name is michelle and became a 1st time mum to my baby girl Anastasia born on 1st feb weighing 3.5kgs.
I have been looking for a forum of mums with bubs around the same age as i am the only one in my circle of friends that has a baby so no one really understands what its like!
The first 4 weeks were great with bub but she seems to have Reflux, we have the awful times during the day where she just wont settle and seems to be in so much pain... have started her on Zantac so hopefully this will help. Anyone else experiencing these problems?
1pj - Try the co- sleeping - it is a bit scary at first but you get used to where the baby is.
Melanie Kate - Have you tried talking to someone about the bf probs you are having at all? I think you can call the Aust BF assoc counsellors without having to be a member. Also perhaps your child health clinic has a breastfeeding help part - I know ours does. Don't give up hope yet - do some research on improving milk supply.
Sterla - cool that our bubs share a birthday. Cheeky little monkey's to come on Friday the 13th.
Blip - go with your instinct I reckon - it seems to me that every nurse type person has their own ideas about what you should and shouldn't do when it comes to bf. 10g is nothing and could be the calibration on the scales!
MKart - thats no good about the reflux! Hope it gets better.
As for Us - We went to the baby clinic yesterday just for a chat and a weigh. Harris has put on 600g since his birth which is great. The nurse there was great to talk to and gave me some tips about signs of overtiredness.
I bought Harris a baba sling today so that I can be more hands free around thehouse. I still haven't qite got it worked out yet - he doesn't like being in it to sleep in the cradle position. He is sleeping on me upright though which is good enough. We will see how it goes!
melaniekate-Is Lachlan settling now hes on formula?Please Stop being so hard on yourself!!!I am having the same issues and i feel soon i may have to totally formual feed,but you know what?after beating myself up ages i suddenly thought,well everyones different and sometimes you have to do whats best for you!!!For peace,or sanity or for bubs,if mine hasnt gained any this week i will have no choice and feel what do i do?let her go hungry or not?i just not sure if her unsettling issues is hunger or not!!??But I think Bfing for any amount of time is better than none!Hang in there!I am also trying to persevere with the BFing but if i cant i cant,i just cant keep worrying if bubs is getting enough,i may also contact the BFA.
sterla-Glad things are going well,i too have trouble feeding in public,its hard to get the hang of,i did it today and sorta got there!
Mkart86-HI!Sorry your bubs has been in pain its heartbreaking watching,im not sure to be honest but ive been worried lately as My bub has had a few high pithced screaming episodes lately and an older lady friend of mine feels she has colic or reflux,(or shes still hungry)can i ask how you know?I feel i would see it!
blip-Thats awful!Talk about put you off seeing those ladies!!This is my problem with the BFing too,she doesnt seem to be putting on much wieght and everyones telling me to formula feed its frustrating i just dont know what to do!
Andjxx-Can i ask what they said the signs of overtiredness were?I feel she has a feed at times then is awake for ages so then starts to get grissly then ends up really crying untill i finally get her to sleep!Its just someone told me that newborns dont get "overtired"so it must be colic or that shes still hungry!!
well we had a better night but we went shopping today and she just screamed i almost came home but eventually she settled,im not sure whats up,i feel she gets overtired but others have said maybe colic or still hungry.she seems to sleep when she finally gives in i mean surely if she still hungry or in pain shed still cry not go to sleep???sure wish theyd tell us!
sorry me again,i tried to edit but the computers gone nuts!!
Andjxx-do you mind me asking what they said the signs of overtiredness were?Its just i was told today that newborns dont get "overtired".Its just she has a feed then is awake for quite a while then gets grissly then really crys until i get her to sleep and i was told no it must be colic or shes still hungry.
moring ladies!
pj- i think some one in the bellybuddies put it really well with bfing - 'when in doubt whip it out!' i've gone back to that (ignoreing the MCHN ) and it helps darren...mind you he's asleep on my chest atm! im going to a bf clinic at the hossy in a few hours, so i'll post 'bout it for you! as for tired signs yawns and the rubbing of the eyes are the first ones.
I'm feeling really good today. I feel like I'm getting into the swing of motherhood - feeling a lot more relaxed and confident with everything.
Hi Michelle - welcome to the group! Sorry to hear your bub has reflux. I hope things settle down soon.
Andjxx: That's fantastic that Harris is putting on so much weight! It's nice to find out how much our bubs are putting on! Oliver had put on almost 500g since birth at our last check-up. Getting those tips on over tiredness must have been great! Do share .
1PJ: Oh, I know what you mean about wanting to go home when bub screams in public. I'm not so nervous about it now, but I remember the first few times I went out with Oliver I was really nervous about him starting to cry and me not being able to settle him - something about having an audience with your new and developing parenting skills.
Antheia: Glad you're still about. How is Orson doing?
Blip: That sucks that you've had such a long and confusing/contradicting time with the MCHN, etc. I think the "If in doubt, whip it out" idea is great. Our bubs know when they're hungry! And if it helps Darren to settle, why not? Congrats on the RAK! I suppose you'll get an avvy soon - that must be exciting!
AFM: Oliver has been feeding and sleeping really well the last couple of days. He was doing crazy-cluster feeds of an evening/night where I felt like I was feeding him non-stop for a few hours... but I think he was just trying to trigger more milk - cause he's not doing it anymore and seems to be getting plenty of milk each feed. I'm still using the nipple shield though... I think I'm getting too comfortable with it - I need to start trying harder to wean us both off it.
Here is the list the nurse gave me, it is for Babie aged 0 - 6months
Tiredness - General
- Jerky movements
-facial grimacing
-clenching fists
-frowning
-grizzly
-Yawning
- a lull in activity
- staring off
- Calmness
-Becoming generally quieter
-Sucking
Overtiredness
- Irritable
- Tense
- Arching
- Fighting sleep (falls asleep in arms then wakes when put to bed)
- Fusses on Breast or bottle
- Crying as if in pain - loud, distressed
- Short sleeps (cat naps of less than 1 hour)
- Looks Tired
- Startles easily
All these are well and good but, what to do when you have an over tored baby who just wont settle! I'm still trying to figure that one out. I think Harris gets overtired very quickly.
The nurse recommended the baby only be awake for an hour at a time - including feeding - and that the baby should always be settled in the same place and manner i.e in their room, calm quiet environment, dim lights etc - It's not always practical though is it?
We had a bad night last night - HArris had a great deal of sleep during the day and just would not settle after his last feed. Unfortunately I get irritable and angry when he is like that at night. He probably picks up on that too. Had a bit o a cry to husband last night because I miss my friends in Brisbane who all have small babies and I get very bored at home. It just feels like there is no purpose to each day (apart from feeding and calming Harris) and then when I'm not looking after him it's all house work - makes for a boring life!
baby_blip - Why can't MCHN get their stories right? Always telling us one thing at an appointment and then something completely different at the next appointment. How is Darren doing?
sydney moose - Hows Sammy doing? She sounds like a good feeder. I was getting 8+ heavily wet nappies!
Cyathea - How's Marley? You sound like you know what your doing! How are you feeling?
Will be back later to finish of personals need to feed lach!
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hi all! im so glad to hear that everyone is going so well! especially all you first time mummys! dont have time to write much. just want to know if anyone else is expressing? i expressed 120ml off one side today and bella drank that with no worries.. how much do babies usually drink per feed?
I haven't been expressing, but have been quite curious as to how much DS is getting. He's obviously getting enough as he's satisfied after a feed, has plenty of wet and dirty nappies and is putting on weight... still, I'm interested in how much he's getting.
Laura: I just noticed your Bella is another Friday 13th bub! There's a few here!
moring ladies!
sterla- glad olivers doing well & putting on waight! as for the nipple sheald - try taking it off at the end of the feed. thats what the LC told me yesterday...that way they're nice and relaxed and should (as a guesstimate) go back on.
andjxx- fed, settled in an hour mg: how the hell do you do that. darren takes an hour to feed! as for always settleing in the same place, im sure i could lug my couch to the shops i understand how you feel getting frustraited late at night, i know i do. esp. when my DH chris is 'too tired' after a day at work...and feeling like you dont have any friends. i can also relate to that. you'll get there!!
laura133 - i know that if you want (at this stage) bubs to sleep for 4hrs they need 90mls. and for three hours its 80ml. (mind you 90ml is more nursry and rather un-realistic!)
AFM- darren has toung tie (not bad though) and bad reflux. from what that LC told me yesterday, that is the main reason for the waight loss. he throws up half his food! so im ment to express after each feed (and still one boob a feed ...i think not!) and im going to my GP tomorrow to get something for the reflux, so that he can keep his food down, but the LC also told me to 'hold him up right' for 20mins half an hour after a feed. she also told me to get a bouncer for him so he can sit up right and i can have my 'own time' (which i didnt like...i like having darren with me all the time!) but going to the hossy LC was FUN. it was the first time i'd gone out with darren AND the pram...with rain clouds looming! i managed to get the pram all set up darren was hungry (had been for half an hour) so i thought "stuff this" and started to feed him. so i walked around the hossy bfing darren..the then LC told me i should have waited and i potined out that i had NO IDEA where i was going and i wasnt going to have a screaming babie. but towards the end of the appt she told me he has toung tie and reflux. i go back next wednesday (at the same time, so i have to feed him at 7am!) and my MCHN needs a kick in the...face. she called me on wednesday and asked if i wanted her to come over and waigh darren..when i said no. i felt pritty good about the feeds we where having and just really good within myself feeling like i was getting there - she said "it seems like im more worried about this then you" but im ok with that now. darrens put on 20g. so im happy. plus the LC told me that the MCHN got it wrong with the waights, he orgianly lost 80g. not 100g. i know its only 20g differance...but i feel SO MUCH better!
any one else found that now *every time* they hear a baby cry if their bub is down they go running to check on them? chris laughs at me when i do it!
Hi ladies,ive been looking for this thread and only just found it yah!I know some of you from our belly buddies thread!My baby girl summer was born on the 5th of feb at 8pm weighing 5lb5 and 45 cms.The first 2 weeks were quite good but shes fallen into a bad pattern of crying when shes tired like she will cry and cry but refuse to fall asleep where as before she used to just sleep after a feed,now if shes been awake for a bit she will just cry,only way to get her off seems to be in our arms at the moment when she has these times,other than that things are good,i had a few concerns about breast feeding as i was worried she wasnt getting enough and was hungry and thats why she was crying but it seems to be weve worked out what the problem is so thats good.
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but i got my own back X2! she told me if he didnt put on waight (im going to a b/f clinic thursday..) that we'd have to put him on formular. which made me cry...whilest darren was feeding and she goes "oh we better just take him off..." and i snaped at her and told her not to tuch him. she tried again and i said "JUST LEAVE HIM hes fine" which made her pull her head in. then when we talked about settleing him she told me to swaddle him, roll him on his side and stand at his back and pat it so he's settled and i turned around and said "thats just crule! i understand not looking at him...but not allowing him to see me? THATS WRONG. and far, far too much like the toby king methord!" she told me it was NOTHING like it. when i said "not much differance in the cold comfort of a blank wall or a swaddle is there?" but im feeling much better today. i feed him if he looks side ways at me. im waking him for feeds every 2.5 hrs (cus it takes half an hour to settle him) and he seems better for it! but he had his 'awake' time from 2:20pm untill 5 pm with three feeds in there (he seemed hugry and i wasnt going to make him wait!) 
Hi Michelle - welcome to the group! 
mg: how the hell do you do that. darren takes an hour to feed! as for always settleing in the same place, im sure i could lug my couch to the shops 
i understand how you feel getting frustraited late at night, i know i do. esp. when my DH chris is 'too tired' after a day at work...and feeling like you dont have any friends. i can also relate to that. 
but im ok with that now. darrens put on 20g. so im happy. plus the LC told me that the MCHN got it wrong with the waights, he orgianly lost 80g. not 100g. i know its only 20g differance...but i feel SO MUCH better! 
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