Babies Born July 2007 #4

[Ngala]

( I somehow managed to close my window and I wrote a huge post!!!)

Mel - I dont think that you sound pushy or nasty. You are jsut saying it as it is because you have gone through it. And I think I will trust my motherly instincts and go and see a paed, if nothing is wrong, then great! But if there is something wrong, then atleast we will be on the way to getting Avaleigh better. How is Jack today?

Jessikah - Thats great growth from Ethan!! Avaleigh is going in for her 6 wk check up today so it will be amazing to see how much she has grown.

Avaleigh is asleep at the moment. We had an OK night. There was actually no co-sleeping but Avaleigh was grunting and grizzling a bit in her bassinette. I am still sleeping out on the couch. Jason asked when I was coming back to bed and I said soon. I am starting to put Avaleigh to sleep in her cot during the day and once she is sleeping in that, I will start putting her in at night. She has gone in her cot a few times but normally just lays there and watches her mobile go round!!

Hope everyone is well.

I've just read the rest of the thread created by Caro (relux/colic/windy baby) and the thread that Tracey created about silent reflux and I am definitely going to see a paed. I will mention all this to the CHN today and see what they say. I will make an appt with my doctor today and get a referral to see a paed and hopefully I can get in there nice and quick and get Avaleigh all better!! She is awake now, only slept 1 hr since her last feed. I am going to have a shower and take her out for a walk so hopefully she can sleep a little more.

[bridee]

Hi All,

Thanks for your support. Paed called yesterday and has arranged for us to see Orthapedic surgeon next Thursday. He told me her right hip is completely dislocated and left is slightly immature. So the right hip is the bigger problem. Not sure if the brace will be fitted next Thursday.

As everyone has said weare pleased it has been picked up early, at least she isn't at the stage of wanting to move around - she is happy to be flat on her back.

On another matter, a tip for those with unsettled babies (Georgie was yesterday evening, I swear she was picking up on DH and mine being upset), to help settle babies, hold them while you sit bouncing on a fit ball. The paed physio I saw on Monday told me this, I tried it last night and it worked, within 1-2 bounces she had stopped crying. The problem is it is tiring but I was thinking of it as exercise. Apparently it has something to do with there inner ear.

[kungfubecca]

Hi all

Bridee. It is good that the hip problem has been found out now, I think it is more common than you would think. I know of other babies who have had to have a brace and they are doing great now. Great tip on the fit ball too.

Fran, I know how you feel, Xavier decided day time sleep was for suckers this week, the HAB has been my saving grace. Even though he's now attached to me, he is also actually getting sleep and isn't in so much of a filthy mood. and when he was awake all the time he constantly wanted food. it also means i can eat, although with difficulty. I have been finding it hard to get food organised for me.

Mel, glad to hear you have some answers. I hope it all works out and that you have a very happy bubba, big sis and mum in no time at all.

Jemima, I got a nice black one. to make me look slim sry couldn't help myself. Today I was wearing him while I fed the dogs, and he could hear all these noises behind him and didn't know what was going on, he was intrigued it was so cute.

Veronica, I'm with mel, go see the pead, esp 'cause it sounds like jacks and zyons was gradual. You might catch something early.
I don't know how you manage to get avaleigh to just lie under a play gym, Xavier will have nothing of it.

Jesikah, he appears to like his HAB, that or he just likes being straped to me. you should try one they are great, and so comfy you just have to watch for the crumbs you drop on bubs head . How good your walk sounded too.

Well the weeks sure are moving fast and these little bubs do grow quick huh. almost at 5 weeks, and before you know it we will be at 6 weeks. I got proper smiles this morning, don't know if they were actually for me or the reflection in my glasses but they were in my general direction. I look down at him while he's feeding and I swear he has grown in length again.
Well today I best not come back to the computer, although I'm sure I will as more often than not I get into live chat and stay there until Nathan gets home from work.

Bye all hope you have a good day.

[~*Niadalla*~]

Hi there everyone,
Been busy packing for our trip tomorrow, so havent been around much.

Hope you are all going well.
We have got Lach on wind drops, but only use them for one feed at night, when he is at his worst... he seems tohave a really bad cranky speel between 8pm and midnight. It's not too bad now that I expect it to happen, but early in the week it was hell.
I saw a couple of girls who were in my birthing classes on tuesday, and Im amazed at how much bigger lach is than their little girls are. ALthought their little girls are only 2 weeks old, I do not remember Lach being that tiny!!! He is def gonna be one giant kiddie!

I will be having my first mothers group thing next tuesday. I am looking forwrd to meeting a few new faces. Its goes for 6 weeks, and at the end we all go out for a meal or coffee. Hopefully I can make a few friends in the group and catch up with them on a regular basis.


I played netball for the first time in over 2 years on tuesday night!
It felt so good getting back into sport, and I can still shoot pretty well! lol
The team won their first game all season and they have asked me to be their Goal shooter on a permanent basis... I can't wait!


Well, off to wagga tomorrow. We will be leaving at sparrows fart. lol
Whenever Lach has had a feed anytime from 5 am, we are leaving. Should only need to stop for a feed once on the way up. Hopefully, the car ride goes well. I can't wait to see my sis. SHe is going to freak out when she sees Lach. He has changed HEAPS!!!

We are having a few bfing issues here... hes being very fussy, and hates feeding from right side, no matter what position I put him in.
I tried using a nipple sheild, and he fed heap better from it. I also expressed into a bottle and he loved it!
He drank 150ml and still wanted more!!!

I think he hates my right side cos its too full and it lets down far too quickly for him to keep up.
Hopefully it will sort itself out, otherwise I will go and see a lactation consultant.. as I really want this breast feeding to work.
Well guys, have a great next 5 days. I will pop back in on tuesday and see how you all are going.

Hugs and sleep vibes to all mummas and bubbas

[Tracey]

I am back to the land of the living!

Basically We have spent time at the Royal childrens Hospital (Fathers Day!) & then yesterday at the Angliss where Zyon was born...
Finally being told yesterday he has silent reflux & he si now on Gaviscon & I have an appt to see someone tomorrow about it! I am like Mel, kicking myself for listening to ****ers who dont know or feeling like a neurotic Mummy & not trusting my instincts!

Mel,
I was told at the RCH that he was simply a needy baby, with beahvioural problems as we have always tended to his cries!!!! She also said she thought he was Lactose Intolerant, but it's now deemed UN TRUE! She had also told me to give up the breast & give him Lactose free formula which I did Sunbday night & Monday morning but after a few bottles & no difference I put him back on the breast!
So you might not really need the Lacteze, he may not REALLY be LI!???

I am so so angry at the MCHN & will let rip at her next appt, also my GP as these ppl both told me he needed settling school & sleep school as he was crying to get my attention!!! Isnt that why babies cry anyways? I was told to let him cry it out & put him self to sleep!
I never did (thank god) but I knew my son was in pain...!

Finally after sobbing to the Midwives to bring my 6wk check up earlier I went in yesterday & the lady knew immediately.. She looked at his weight gain which has been over 1.5kgs since birth, plus his sodden wet nappies, the arching of the back, hiccuping, seeming to swallow & then screech in pain & he will sleep hours & hours upright in the HAB!
So she gave me the name of a Dr to see whom I am seeing tomorrow (well her partner & if she cant give me answers they'll discuss it, as the1 I need to see is booked 3+ wks in advance!)
I saw a chiro today & he gave me some natural stuff to take that will pass through my breast milk & help mature Zy's guts & also 1 for weakening the acidity in his gut!
He has had gaviscon since Tuesday afternoon & slept 4+hours between is night feeds the last 2 night! OMG I feel brand new, we were getting 25mins at the VERY most!!!

PLEASE, trust in yourself & your instincts is all i can say. I also removed Dairy from my diet as the MW explained that the Dairy Protein sits in bubba's tummies & doesnt digest quickly like breast milk, therefore it sits there & regurgitates back & fourth causing the reflux & so no dairy for me, but she also ex-lained that after 2 yrs of age our bodies dont really absorb much calcium from Milk & it's not necessary in our diets (the commercials are because Dairy is 1 of our major commodities!)
So no milk/dairy for now...

I also am P'd off at the paed whose first comment was....... Is this your first??? Hmm, Nope #3 I smiled back! I think if I had said YES, she'd have fobbed us off, it just seemed like we were making it up!

I am so glad & relieved that I am getting answers, NO BABY SCREAMS IN PAIN 24/7! But MCHN, GP & Paed believed they do!!!

Well I havent read everyone's posts too much to catch up on..

I just wnated to share & if you think something isnt right, get it checked & if they fob you off get a nother opinion!!!!

[Fruitloop]

Hi girls...we had a visit with the MCHN today and Alessia has put on some weight...not alot...but I guess any gain is better than a loss. She only put on 80g in 9 days. The nurse seems to think this may be linked to my very sore boobies...who knows. I've booked another stay at a breastfeeding clinic in a week and a half's time so we can get some more help. We'll get there...through the pain...although I must say my nipples hurt all the time now At least it's not thrush (MCHN checked this).

Alessia is one very long little girl! At birth, she was 51cm and now she's 56.5cm! No wonder her growsuits are getting a bit tight! That puts her in the 90th percentile!

Anyvays...onto some personals while she sleeps!

Rebecca Oh I'm hearing you on the crumbs! I had Alessia in the HAB yesterday and regretted getting black when I ate a biscuit that had icing sugar on it! *lol* How cute that you are getting more smiles from Xavier. Any chance of seeing some more photos of your cutie pie?

Bridee Big hugs!!! *hugs* Definitely here with the other girls in that better the problem be picked up now rather than later. What I think is great though, is that you are getting appts and so forth organised quick smart. I just hate waiting weeks and months for appts!

Veronica How did you go with Avaleigh's 6 week checkup? She definitely looks like she's grown a lot from your photos...can't wait to hear the stats! It can't hurt to see a paed if you are concerned that Avaleigh has silent reflux. I've booked Alessia in to have a follow up appt from the hospital (b/c she was jaundiced) even though everything is ok now.

Jessikah Thank you for your words of support regarding my struggle with breastfeeding. Knowing that you know exactly what I've gone through helps and yes, if I need to give her formula I can make my peace with that. I just don't want to regret not trying to sort out our problems if the help is there...admittedly it's darn hard to get it! Well done for Ethan's growth!!! That's a great weight gain!

Jem 9 weeks off with my hubby would have been a dream...unfortunately I had to be content wih 3. Admittedly though, I'm finding it harder moreso, b/c my mum and sister who would have normally been able to come by and give me a hand, have been really ill...so it's just me and Alessia until David comes home. I definitely can sympathise with the clock watching! The fact that you have a spare 5 minutes to jump on the computer is awesome...must be testament to the fact that you are 1 organised mumma!

Mel That's great news that you're making progress with Jack! You should be so proud of yourself that you have worked so hard to help him out! *hugs*

Okies little miss is cracking it so I better hop off! Take care everyone!

[kungfubecca]

Hi all

Tracey, you go kick some @$$. My sis had a couple of docs and nurses treat her like that too. It's not on, regardless if it's your first second or 10th even. they don't hear all the cries and spend 24/7 with the bubs. Besides I didn't think babies that young were capable of that level of manipulation, and there is a definet difference between attention crying and the blood curdling pain cry. You are doing all mums a service by standing up for yourself

Fran you are doing great, but I wonder if when they weighed allesia they considered the great length. she may have only gained 90gm, but 4.5 cm in less than 4 weeks, maybe all the effort went into lengthening those bones. I know you said you had a nipple cream but when you go back into the breast feeding clinic ask them if they recommend one. My hospital offered me a sample of the marcalan, but I already had the tube my sister passed onto me.
I will try to get some more pics on soon, our website has some but it doesn't seem to be working, so will have the link for that one back soon.

Nicki have a nice trip, how exciting your first big family trip. My MCHN didn't even tell me anything about mothers groups, I really should have asked though. Personally I think that's one of the first things they should organise. I think being with other people is really important part, 'cause if I go insane everyone will suffer.

Well i'm tempting fate being on here, i swear xav has a 6th sense for knowing when i sit down at the computer, and he has actually slept in his bed today!! yay I think he may have just been overtired so the bed wasn't doing it for him, a couple of days of good sleep in the HAB and he's a new little man. I'm glad too if he had gotten too used to sleeping in mums arms I don't know what I would have done.
Well best go while the going's good, i've even half preped tea, i'm on fire today, and Nathan might be home early from work.

Catch ya's all later

[Starfish]

Hi everyone

Rebecca - I hear you on the HAB and crumbs in bub's hair. I have resorted to putting one on my hats on Diana's head when I eat something and she is in her carrier. That way, any crums just fall on my hat and don't reach her.

Tracey - OMG, poor you and Zyon, being treated like that by people deemed to be professionals. It makes me so angry whenever I hear anyone saying that you are spoiling your baby by attending to them. How can a child so young have behavioural problems? Stupid people! Good on you for standing up for yourself. Hope that you and Zyon are doing better. Hugs.

Fran - good on you for perservering with breastfeeding. Hope it gets easier for you soon. Was Alessia weighed on the same scale as the previous time? Different scales can account for a lot of variations in bub's weight. I once weighed Diana on two different scales on consecutive days and one scale read about 500g more than the other. Seriously! Yesterday I weighed her on a different scale than normal and she only seems to have only put on about 50g in 8 days. I am hoping that this is just the scale and that she has put on more than that (or maybe she was so light because I weighed her after she had done a HUGE poop, lol.

Bridee - hope the treatment works and that Georgie's hips heal soon.

Nicki - hope your trip goes well. Good luck.

Veronica - like Tracey said - if you feel that there is a problem you should definitely trust your instincts and take Avaleigh to a paed. Hope it all goes well and she gets better soon.

Things are ploddding along okay at my end. Diana is 11 weeks old now! She is still a very good and content baby (please don't hate me ), although she has yet to sleep for more than about 4 hours at a time during the night. How do you ladies do it?

[Ngala]

Hey Everyone

Avaleigh's poo has gone a dark green today, should I be worried?? She hasnt dont a full poo, just a skid mark so I am wondering what her full poo will be like. I guess I will see with the next nappy change..

[Tracey]

Veronica, Zyon only ever did 4 or so yellowish poo's when he had the lactpose free formula, his have always been green...
I am seeing another DR today & will ask her, but I was told weeks ago poo is poo dont worry about the colour & that green poo just means that it is going through their system quickly?

[kungfubecca]

Hi all,

Zofia lol at the hat, good idea though.

Veronica, Xaviers poo fluctuates between yellow and green quite often. I think it has something to do with what I eat. maybe it's chocolate, as I have not been very good at avoiding it. Have you eaten anything new recently? or any of the non recommended foods while bf? just a thought.

[Ngala]

Hmm maybe! You knows.. haha just a shock to see green poo when they have all been yellow!! Avaleigh just had a dirty nappy (and I think she has another for me!) and its back to the yellow poo so maybe it was just something odd in her system??

Just called and made an appt with my doctor today. We are going in to see him at 11.20 and I am going to ask to see a paed.

Oh our appt with the CHN yesterday went well. I told her that I thought Avaleigh has reflux and she asked why, I told her all my reasons and she said that yes sounds like she has reflux and that I can get infant gaviscon if I need it. I also told her that Avaleigh is not sleeping during the day in her bed, only sleep when someone is holding her and she told me I have to train her to sleep. She said that I have to feed her, play with her and then put her to bed and if she wakes up again I need to go in and soothe her to go back to sleep, turn a mobile on and then leave her once she falls asleep. hmmm But I am not too sure how to do that with a reflux baby!! Cause you are told to keep them upright after a feed for atleast 30 mins and by the time the 30 mins is over, she is asleep!! But then when she goes to bed, she wakes up.. hmm cant win!! I might not worry too much about it for now, I will wait and see what the paed says.

Oh and she weighs 4.890kg and is 58cm long!! So she has gained 1.38kg and has grown 7cm!!!

Rebecca - I dont think I have eaten anything different and I am not eating chocolate. Its been 2 weeks since I last had chocolate!! AHHHH I want some! LOL

[Meluchja]

Wow V, yey on Avalieghs weight gain. Jack doesn't sleep in hit bassinet during the day either. But he does sleep in his automatic rocker, god love that thing. We have it on top of the table so Charlee can't get to it. If it weren't for that I would have to carry him all the time too. I think the motion of being held or the motion of the rocker helps soothes his tummy, I don't know it's just a guess, but it works for us. Do you have an automatic rocker or swing? That might help her to settle on her own?????? Good luck at the paed.

Fran sorry to hear your still having some probs with B/F. But a weight gain is always better than a weight loss. So your still doing a fantastic job. Hope you get some answers at your next appointment.

Zofia, glad to hear Diana is a great bub for you.

Rebecca, wow your a super mum. Yey on the good day yesterday, hope the your well prepared dinner was yummy. at Xavier 6th sense, I think they do too.

Tracey, hope Zyon is still improving, how did he go last night?

Hi to everyone else.

Well ladies don't have too much time to chat, we have another open house tomorrow, so busy cleaning today I hate it!!!! Fingres crossed tomorrow we find a real buyer.

Jack is a little better, but I think it may be more from the mylanta than the zantac, who knows, but he is a little better and thats the important thing.

Hope you all have a lovely weekend.

[Fruitloop]

Just a quick one...I've finally typed up my birth story!
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...066#post915066

Will hopefully be back later!

[Jas]

Hi everyone,


Sorry I haven't caught up with you all lately...I will have to make more of an effort.

well i'm going to go read frans birth story and hopefully sometime soon I will post mine!!

[Starfish]

Hi everyone

We had a public holiday in Sydney today, so Diana and I got to have a bit of a sleep in Then during the day we all went ot have a look at the APEC fence and the goings on in the city (most disappointing, the news made it seem like the whole city was fenced off, but it was only about one street - lots of security and police around though - there were even several police buses(!), the like of which I'd never seen before).

Anyway, Diana did another poo in the potty this afternoon! I went to change her nappy and it was clean, so I put her on the potty and she did a poo and a wee. Woo hoo! (Then I took her off and she did another poo on the changing mat, but that's not her fault.) So proud of her. That's "the good" I refer to in the title of this post.

Now for "the bad". Diana rolled off the couch and fell on the floor tonight. Poor little thing. I was feeding her, when I heard some commotion from the kitchen. Stan then ran out, holding his hand. He had cut his finger rather badly (sliced part of the nail right off) and was in a bit of a panic/daze unsure what to do next. I quickly put Diana down and went to look for a plaster and cotton wool to give him, and the next thing I hear is a distressed baby crying and see that Diana is on the floor. I felt sooo bad. I picked her up and burst into tears myself. Fortunately Stan had by this point regained enough sense to look after himself as all I could do was comfort my poor baby. She seems all right now (she is sleeping on my chest as I write this), but it was such a horrible moment. I pray and hope that she didn't get concussed or anything. Has this type of thing happened to anyone before? Are there any signs that I should look for to make sure that she is all right? She fell on to a carpeted floor, so that should have cushined her fall...? I'm worried.

[blueflower]

Ohh Zofia, you poor thing. I am so worried about the day it will happen to me!!! I am sure she is okay. The midwife at the hospital said that you cant break little babies, so I am sure she is okay. If she shows signs of not being 'normal' I would take her ot the hospital/doctor for a check up. Babies are more durable than we think!!
I know what you mean about the APEC- it has taken over the city (they got the busses and water cannon especially for the protests). They were ment to be huge protests, but watching the new this morning they arent as big or as bad as what they were ment to be.

Well a bit of a selfish post today... sorry guys.
Kaetlyn has been really good, up until yesterday. She woke up for her morning feed, and then wouldnt get back till sleep until about 3pm. She was crying and only stopped when I held her. She had bad wind, and ended up farting it out. She normally does 3-4 gianormous burps but didnt yesterday. Today she has woken up 'on the right side of the cot' so to speak Ifeel so sorry for you guys whos bubbas are like this all the time. I am lucky to have been blessed with such a wonderful daughter, it just makes the bad times so much worse.

She is currentlyy sitting in her rocker beside me kicking about and lauging (at me I guess).

Aaron has now worked the past 7 days (for this stupid APEC). He finishes about 3 tomorrow morning and then has two days off. Poor thing he has missed Kaetlyn ssssooo much and she is going through a growth spurt and he said she seems ssssoooo big now He is upset cause they cut his holidays short for the APEC, so he would prob still be on holidays from when sahe was born.

We are currently organising Kaetlyns Baptism- its in three weeks. We had to hold it so soon as its the only weekend my brother can come down from townsville until december, and he is Godfather. He is so excited to be able to meet Kaetlyn finally.
I have made the invites and are getting sent off tomorrow and I am also making her Baptism Gown. It is in gorgous Ivory Satin that has been embroidered, fingers crossed it turns out okay. I haved worked out it is cheaper to buy it but it wont hold the same sentimental vazlue to her when she is older.

Well I had better be off. Its my teams granfinal today for netball and we are going to watch if they weather holds up. I still have to feed me and Kaetlyn. LOL at least I can do both at the same time if i am organised with my lunch!
I cant wait for October- I am playing netball two nights a week- LMAO- to make up for this season that I missed!!

Happy weekend everyone!!!
PS we are going on our first big field trip tomrrow- to newcasztle which is about 2 hours away to see some of Aarons family.

[Ngala]

Hey Everyone

Zofia - oh you poor thing!! You must have gotten a real shock to see Diana on the floor. I am sure that she is ok, probably just got a fright! I must say, that I have accidently hit Avaleigh's head on the corner of the computer table, and it wasnt just a knock, it was actually quite hard!! And Avaleigh screamed and cried her little heart out!! I just sat on the floor rocking and trying to comfort her. In the end I started crying too because I couldnt believe that I did it! I felt like the worst mother. She had a red bump on her head too but she woke up the next morning with nothing there!

Sara - It must be such a shock to the system when your baby suddenly turns really unsettled after having such a good baby, I know I would be shocked!!

Avaleigh and I went to my doctor for our 6 week checks. The doctor looked over me and asked me a whole pile of questions and is happy with me. He then looked over Avaleigh and did all her checks and said she is perfect. Avaleigh has a strawberry mark on her side (I thought that the nappy did something to her!!) that he says is going to grow real big before it disappears when she is about 5. I am glad that it is not on her face!! We had a talk about going to see a paed and after a good discussion with him, we decided that we arent going to see a paed. I know that Avaleigh has reflux, but it is only a real mild case of reflux that I can control with the Brauers products. About 90% of the day, Avaleigh is quite happy so I dont think we need to put her on the reflux drugs. I think, really, that deep down I was trying to find something bigger than what there really is. I think I was trying to put Avaleigh's not sleeping on to the reflux , it has got something to do with it, but also I think I dont pay enough attention to her, I know that I should be playing with her and focusing on putting her to sleep. I have been told I need to train her, which I am trying to do know. She has been asleep for over an hour now, which is fantastic!

I am trying to get Avaleigh to sleep in her cot, I didnt realise that it was going to be soo hard!! I dont think she likes it, I put her in it when she is asleep and then 5 mins later she is wide awake and looking around! I am planning to put the bassinette in the cot so she can get used to the surroundings of her room and then after a while take the bassinette away, hopefully that will work!

Oh! We got our new TV today YAYAY! Cant wait to get it set up but Jason is out the front talking to a mate! I better tell him to get a wriggle on.

Take is easy everyone.