Babies Born July 2007 #4

**Fruitloop** · September 6th, 2007, 01:43 PM

Hi girls...we had a visit with the MCHN today and Alessia has put on some weight...not alot...but I guess any gain is better than a loss. She only put on 80g in 9 days. The nurse seems to think this may be linked to my very sore boobies...who knows. I've booked another stay at a breastfeeding clinic in a week and a half's time so we can get some more help. We'll get there...through the pain...although I must say my nipples hurt all the time now

At least it's not thrush (MCHN checked this).

Alessia is one very long little girl! At birth, she was 51cm and now she's 56.5cm! No wonder her growsuits are getting a bit tight! That puts her in the 90th percentile!

Anyvays...onto some personals while she sleeps!

Rebecca Oh I'm hearing you on the crumbs! I had Alessia in the HAB yesterday and regretted getting black when I ate a biscuit that had icing sugar on it! *lol* How cute that you are getting more smiles from Xavier. Any chance of seeing some more photos of your cutie pie?

Bridee Big hugs!!! *hugs* Definitely here with the other girls in that better the problem be picked up now rather than later. What I think is great though, is that you are getting appts and so forth organised quick smart. I just hate waiting weeks and months for appts!

Veronica How did you go with Avaleigh's 6 week checkup? She definitely looks like she's grown a lot from your photos...can't wait to hear the stats! It can't hurt to see a paed if you are concerned that Avaleigh has silent reflux. I've booked Alessia in to have a follow up appt from the hospital (b/c she was jaundiced) even though everything is ok now.

Jessikah Thank you for your words of support regarding my struggle with breastfeeding. Knowing that you know exactly what I've gone through helps and yes, if I need to give her formula I can make my peace with that. I just don't want to regret not trying to sort out our problems if the help is there...admittedly it's darn hard to get it! Well done for Ethan's growth!!! That's a great weight gain!

Jem 9 weeks off with my hubby would have been a dream...unfortunately I had to be content wih 3. Admittedly though, I'm finding it harder moreso, b/c my mum and sister who would have normally been able to come by and give me a hand, have been really ill...so it's just me and Alessia until David comes home. I definitely can sympathise with the clock watching! The fact that you have a spare 5 minutes to jump on the computer is awesome...must be testament to the fact that you are 1 organised mumma!

Mel That's great news that you're making progress with Jack! You should be so proud of yourself that you have worked so hard to help him out! *hugs*

Okies little miss is cracking it so I better hop off! Take care everyone!

**kungfubecca** · September 6th, 2007, 03:56 PM

Hi all

Tracey, you go kick some @$$. My sis had a couple of docs and nurses treat her like that too. It's not on, regardless if it's your first second or 10th even. they don't hear all the cries and spend 24/7 with the bubs. Besides I didn't think babies that young were capable of that level of manipulation, and there is a definet difference between attention crying and the blood curdling pain cry. You are doing all mums a service by standing up for yourself

Fran you are doing great, but I wonder if when they weighed allesia they considered the great length. she may have only gained 90gm, but 4.5 cm in less than 4 weeks, maybe all the effort went into lengthening those bones. I know you said you had a nipple cream but when you go back into the breast feeding clinic ask them if they recommend one. My hospital offered me a sample of the marcalan, but I already had the tube my sister passed onto me.
I will try to get some more pics on soon, our website has some but it doesn't seem to be working, so will have the link for that one back soon.

Nicki have a nice trip, how exciting your first big family trip. My MCHN didn't even tell me anything about mothers groups, I really should have asked though. Personally I think that's one of the first things they should organise. I think being with other people is really important part, 'cause if I go insane everyone will suffer.

Well i'm tempting fate being on here, i swear xav has a 6th sense for knowing when i sit down at the computer, and he has actually slept in his bed today!! yay I think he may have just been overtired so the bed wasn't doing it for him, a couple of days of good sleep in the HAB and he's a new little man. I'm glad too if he had gotten too used to sleeping in mums arms I don't know what I would have done.
Well best go while the going's good, i've even half preped tea, i'm on fire today, and Nathan might be home early from work.

Catch ya's all later

**~*Niadalla*~** · September 6th, 2007, 12:37 PM

Hi there everyone,
Been busy packing for our trip tomorrow, so havent been around much.

Hope you are all going well.
We have got Lach on wind drops, but only use them for one feed at night, when he is at his worst... he seems tohave a really bad cranky speel between 8pm and midnight. It's not too bad now that I expect it to happen, but early in the week it was hell.
I saw a couple of girls who were in my birthing classes on tuesday, and Im amazed at how much bigger lach is than their little girls are. ALthought their little girls are only 2 weeks old, I do not remember Lach being that tiny!!! He is def gonna be one giant kiddie!

I will be having my first mothers group thing next tuesday. I am looking forwrd to meeting a few new faces. Its goes for 6 weeks, and at the end we all go out for a meal or coffee. Hopefully I can make a few friends in the group and catch up with them on a regular basis.

I played netball for the first time in over 2 years on tuesday night!
It felt so good getting back into sport, and I can still shoot pretty well! lol
The team won their first game all season and they have asked me to be their Goal shooter on a permanent basis... I can't wait!

Well, off to wagga tomorrow. We will be leaving at sparrows fart. lol
Whenever Lach has had a feed anytime from 5 am, we are leaving. Should only need to stop for a feed once on the way up. Hopefully, the car ride goes well. I can't wait to see my sis. SHe is going to freak out when she sees Lach. He has changed HEAPS!!!

We are having a few bfing issues here... hes being very fussy, and hates feeding from right side, no matter what position I put him in.
I tried using a nipple sheild, and he fed heap better from it. I also expressed into a bottle and he loved it!
He drank 150ml and still wanted more!!!

I think he hates my right side cos its too full and it lets down far too quickly for him to keep up.
Hopefully it will sort itself out, otherwise I will go and see a lactation consultant.. as I really want this breast feeding to work.
Well guys, have a great next 5 days. I will pop back in on tuesday and see how you all are going.

Hugs and sleep vibes to all mummas and bubbas

**Tracey** · September 6th, 2007, 12:45 PM

I am back to the land of the living!

Basically We have spent time at the Royal childrens Hospital (Fathers Day!) & then yesterday at the Angliss where Zyon was born...
Finally being told yesterday he has silent reflux & he si now on Gaviscon & I have an appt to see someone tomorrow about it! I am like Mel, kicking myself for listening to ****ers who dont know or feeling like a neurotic Mummy & not trusting my instincts!

Mel,
I was told at the RCH that he was simply a needy baby, with beahvioural problems as we have always tended to his cries!!!! She also said she thought he was Lactose Intolerant, but it's now deemed UN TRUE! She had also told me to give up the breast & give him Lactose free formula which I did Sunbday night & Monday morning but after a few bottles & no difference I put him back on the breast!
So you might not really need the Lacteze, he may not REALLY be LI!???

I am so so angry at the MCHN & will let rip at her next appt, also my GP as these ppl both told me he needed settling school & sleep school as he was crying to get my attention!!! Isnt that why babies cry anyways? I was told to let him cry it out & put him self to sleep!
I never did (thank god) but I knew my son was in pain...!

Finally after sobbing to the Midwives to bring my 6wk check up earlier I went in yesterday & the lady knew immediately.. She looked at his weight gain which has been over 1.5kgs since birth, plus his sodden wet nappies, the arching of the back, hiccuping, seeming to swallow & then screech in pain & he will sleep hours & hours upright in the HAB!
So she gave me the name of a Dr to see whom I am seeing tomorrow (well her partner & if she cant give me answers they'll discuss it, as the1 I need to see is booked 3+ wks in advance!)
I saw a chiro today & he gave me some natural stuff to take that will pass through my breast milk & help mature Zy's guts & also 1 for weakening the acidity in his gut!
He has had gaviscon since Tuesday afternoon & slept 4+hours between is night feeds the last 2 night! OMG I feel brand new, we were getting 25mins at the VERY most!!!

PLEASE, trust in yourself & your instincts is all i can say. I also removed Dairy from my diet as the MW explained that the Dairy Protein sits in bubba's tummies & doesnt digest quickly like breast milk, therefore it sits there & regurgitates back & fourth causing the reflux & so no dairy for me, but she also ex-lained that after 2 yrs of age our bodies dont really absorb much calcium from Milk & it's not necessary in our diets (the commercials are because Dairy is 1 of our major commodities!)
So no milk/dairy for now...

I also am P'd off at the paed whose first comment was....... Is this your first??? Hmm, Nope #3 I smiled back! I think if I had said YES, she'd have fobbed us off, it just seemed like we were making it up!

I am so glad & relieved that I am getting answers, NO BABY SCREAMS IN PAIN 24/7! But MCHN, GP & Paed believed they do!!!

Well I havent read everyone's posts too much to catch up on..

I just wnated to share & if you think something isnt right, get it checked & if they fob you off get a nother opinion!!!!

**Ngala** · September 7th, 2007, 10:02 AM

Hey Everyone

Avaleigh's poo has gone a dark green today, should I be worried?? She hasnt dont a full poo, just a skid mark so I am wondering what her full poo will be like. I guess I will see with the next nappy change..

**Tracey** · September 7th, 2007, 10:14 AM

Veronica, Zyon only ever did 4 or so yellowish poo's when he had the lactpose free formula, his have always been green...
I am seeing another DR today & will ask her, but I was told weeks ago poo is poo dont worry about the colour & that green poo just means that it is going through their system quickly?

**kungfubecca** · September 7th, 2007, 11:13 AM

Hi all,

Zofia lol at the hat, good idea though.

Veronica, Xaviers poo fluctuates between yellow and green quite often. I think it has something to do with what I eat. maybe it's chocolate, as I have not been very good at avoiding it. Have you eaten anything new recently? or any of the non recommended foods while bf? just a thought.

**Ngala** · September 7th, 2007, 11:18 AM

Hmm maybe! You knows.. haha just a shock to see green poo when they have all been yellow!! Avaleigh just had a dirty nappy (and I think she has another for me!) and its back to the yellow poo so maybe it was just something odd in her system??

Just called and made an appt with my doctor today. We are going in to see him at 11.20 and I am going to ask to see a paed.

Oh our appt with the CHN yesterday went well. I told her that I thought Avaleigh has reflux and she asked why, I told her all my reasons and she said that yes sounds like she has reflux and that I can get infant gaviscon if I need it. I also told her that Avaleigh is not sleeping during the day in her bed, only sleep when someone is holding her and she told me I have to train her to sleep. She said that I have to feed her, play with her and then put her to bed and if she wakes up again I need to go in and soothe her to go back to sleep, turn a mobile on and then leave her once she falls asleep. hmmm But I am not too sure how to do that with a reflux baby!! Cause you are told to keep them upright after a feed for atleast 30 mins and by the time the 30 mins is over, she is asleep!! But then when she goes to bed, she wakes up.. hmm cant win!! I might not worry too much about it for now, I will wait and see what the paed says.

Oh and she weighs 4.890kg and is 58cm long!! So she has gained 1.38kg and has grown 7cm!!!

Rebecca - I dont think I have eaten anything different and I am not eating chocolate. Its been 2 weeks since I last had chocolate!! AHHHH I want some! LOL

**Meluchja** · September 7th, 2007, 12:15 PM

Wow V, yey on Avalieghs weight gain. Jack doesn't sleep in hit bassinet during the day either. But he does sleep in his automatic rocker, god love that thing. We have it on top of the table so Charlee can't get to it.

If it weren't for that I would have to carry him all the time too. I think the motion of being held or the motion of the rocker helps soothes his tummy, I don't know it's just a guess, but it works for us. Do you have an automatic rocker or swing? That might help her to settle on her own?????? Good luck at the paed.

Fran sorry to hear your still having some probs with B/F. But a weight gain is always better than a weight loss. So your still doing a fantastic job. Hope you get some answers at your next appointment.

Zofia, glad to hear Diana is a great bub for you.

Rebecca, wow your a super mum. Yey on the good day yesterday, hope the your well prepared dinner was yummy.

at Xavier 6th sense, I think they do too.

Tracey, hope Zyon is still improving, how did he go last night?

Hi to everyone else.

Well ladies don't have too much time to chat, we have another open house tomorrow, so busy cleaning today

I hate it!!!! Fingres crossed tomorrow we find a real buyer.

Jack is a little better, but I think it may be more from the mylanta than the zantac, who knows, but he is a little better and thats the important thing.

Hope you all have a lovely weekend.

**Fruitloop** · September 7th, 2007, 12:49 PM

Just a quick one...I've finally typed up my birth story!
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...066#post915066

Will hopefully be back later!

**Jas** · September 7th, 2007, 07:16 PM

Hi everyone,

Sorry I haven't caught up with you all lately...I will have to make more of an effort.

well i'm going to go read frans birth story and hopefully sometime soon I will post mine!!

**Starfish** · September 7th, 2007, 10:43 PM

Hi everyone

We had a public holiday in Sydney today, so Diana and I got to have a bit of a sleep in

Then during the day we all went ot have a look at the APEC fence and the goings on in the city (most disappointing, the news made it seem like the whole city was fenced off, but it was only about one street - lots of security and police around though - there were even several police buses(!), the like of which I'd never seen before).

Anyway, Diana did another poo in the potty this afternoon!

I went to change her nappy and it was clean, so I put her on the potty and she did a poo and a wee. Woo hoo! (Then I took her off and she did another poo on the changing mat, but that's not her fault.) So proud of her. That's "the good" I refer to in the title of this post.

Now for "the bad". Diana rolled off the couch and fell on the floor tonight. Poor little thing.

I was feeding her, when I heard some commotion from the kitchen. Stan then ran out, holding his hand. He had cut his finger rather badly (sliced part of the nail right off) and was in a bit of a panic/daze unsure what to do next. I quickly put Diana down and went to look for a plaster and cotton wool to give him, and the next thing I hear is a distressed baby crying and see that Diana is on the floor. I felt sooo bad. I picked her up and burst into tears myself. Fortunately Stan had by this point regained enough sense to look after himself as all I could do was comfort my poor baby. She seems all right now (she is sleeping on my chest as I write this), but it was such a horrible moment. I pray and hope

that she didn't get concussed or anything. Has this type of thing happened to anyone before? Are there any signs that I should look for to make sure that she is all right? She fell on to a carpeted floor, so that should have cushined her fall...? I'm worried.

**blueflower** · September 8th, 2007, 01:48 PM

Ohh Zofia, you poor thing. I am so worried about the day it will happen to me!!! I am sure she is okay. The midwife at the hospital said that you cant break little babies, so I am sure she is okay. If she shows signs of not being 'normal' I would take her ot the hospital/doctor for a check up. Babies are more durable than we think!!
I know what you mean about the APEC- it has taken over the city (they got the busses and water cannon especially for the protests). They were ment to be huge protests, but watching the new this morning they arent as big or as bad as what they were ment to be.

Well a bit of a selfish post today... sorry guys.
Kaetlyn has been really good, up until yesterday. She woke up for her morning feed, and then wouldnt get back till sleep until about 3pm. She was crying and only stopped when I held her. She had bad wind, and ended up farting it out. She normally does 3-4 gianormous burps but didnt yesterday. Today she has woken up 'on the right side of the cot' so to speak

Ifeel so sorry for you guys whos bubbas are like this all the time. I am lucky to have been blessed with such a wonderful daughter, it just makes the bad times so much worse.

She is currentlyy sitting in her rocker beside me kicking about and lauging (at me I guess).

Aaron has now worked the past 7 days (for this stupid APEC). He finishes about 3 tomorrow morning and then has two days off. Poor thing he has missed Kaetlyn ssssooo much and she is going through a growth spurt and he said she seems ssssoooo big now

He is upset cause they cut his holidays short for the APEC, so he would prob still be on holidays from when sahe was born.

We are currently organising Kaetlyns Baptism- its in three weeks. We had to hold it so soon as its the only weekend my brother can come down from townsville until december, and he is Godfather. He is so excited to be able to meet Kaetlyn finally.
I have made the invites and are getting sent off tomorrow and I am also making her Baptism Gown. It is in gorgous Ivory Satin that has been embroidered, fingers crossed it turns out okay. I haved worked out it is cheaper to buy it but it wont hold the same sentimental vazlue to her when she is older.

Well I had better be off. Its my teams granfinal today for netball and we are going to watch if they weather holds up. I still have to feed me and Kaetlyn. LOL at least I can do both at the same time if i am organised with my lunch!
I cant wait for October- I am playing netball two nights a week- LMAO- to make up for this season that I missed!!

Happy weekend everyone!!!
PS we are going on our first big field trip tomrrow- to newcasztle which is about 2 hours away to see some of Aarons family.

**Ngala** · September 8th, 2007, 02:49 PM

Hey Everyone

Zofia - oh you poor thing!! You must have gotten a real shock to see Diana on the floor. I am sure that she is ok, probably just got a fright! I must say, that I have accidently hit Avaleigh's head on the corner of the computer table, and it wasnt just a knock, it was actually quite hard!! And Avaleigh screamed and cried her little heart out!! I just sat on the floor rocking and trying to comfort her. In the end I started crying too because I couldnt believe that I did it! I felt like the worst mother. She had a red bump on her head too but she woke up the next morning with nothing there!

Sara - It must be such a shock to the system when your baby suddenly turns really unsettled after having such a good baby, I know I would be shocked!!

Avaleigh and I went to my doctor for our 6 week checks. The doctor looked over me and asked me a whole pile of questions and is happy with me. He then looked over Avaleigh and did all her checks and said she is perfect. Avaleigh has a strawberry mark on her side (I thought that the nappy did something to her!!) that he says is going to grow real big before it disappears when she is about 5. I am glad that it is not on her face!! We had a talk about going to see a paed and after a good discussion with him, we decided that we arent going to see a paed. I know that Avaleigh has reflux, but it is only a real mild case of reflux that I can control with the Brauers products. About 90% of the day, Avaleigh is quite happy so I dont think we need to put her on the reflux drugs. I think, really, that deep down I was trying to find something bigger than what there really is. I think I was trying to put Avaleigh's not sleeping on to the reflux , it has got something to do with it, but also I think I dont pay enough attention to her, I know that I should be playing with her and focusing on putting her to sleep. I have been told I need to train her, which I am trying to do know. She has been asleep for over an hour now, which is fantastic!

I am trying to get Avaleigh to sleep in her cot, I didnt realise that it was going to be soo hard!! I dont think she likes it, I put her in it when she is asleep and then 5 mins later she is wide awake and looking around! I am planning to put the bassinette in the cot so she can get used to the surroundings of her room and then after a while take the bassinette away, hopefully that will work!

Oh! We got our new TV today YAYAY! Cant wait to get it set up but Jason is out the front talking to a mate! I better tell him to get a wriggle on.

Take is easy everyone.

**kungfubecca** · September 8th, 2007, 04:30 PM

Hi all,

Veronica, what cheeky little scalliwags babies are changing all the time, just when we think we're getting used to them. We have had times where xavier just wouldn't sleep in his bed at all, and yet the last few days he's been great! Sometimes I wonder if he's bed is too hot or too cold so if he was drowsey the change in temp wakes him up iykwim. Maybe avaleighs bed isn't as toasty as snuggling in with mum? try putting a heat pack or hot water bottle in before you feed her, then take it out when shes ready to go to bed??

Fran, I look forward to reading your story, I'm off their next.

Zofia, you poor thing, I'm also scared of the day xav falls off something, 'cause as much as I would hate it to happen I think it's inevidable. as the others said I'm sure she's ok. If your really worried about concussion just talk to her and see if she's responisive eg eyes following, turning towards sounds smiling etc. (but I would try that at a time you know she's not tired so you don't stess yourself out just because of a tired baby iykwim.

How clever your little girl is too, she's going to be a breez to toilet train! I'm paying careful attention to how you go, maybe the potty is something we could try for the next bubs. Was it difficult at the start? I imagine boys would be different because they tend to spray with range

I could have shot nathan before, I was in the kitchen and there was a knock at the door, nathan was chaning xav, and left him on the change table while he answered the door. I told him off and he was like he's fine, grr I said yes but one day he will fall off. Change tables are twice as high as a couch and a knock at the door is not a valid distraction.

Mel I hope it's your weekend, I'm sure the person who's buying your house has been through it today and is just getting ready to make an offer.

Sara, poor katleyn, Hopefully it was only one day and isn't continuing. even if all you have to do is cuddle for some reason it's very tiring huh?
Her baptism dress sounds lovley, aren't you clever and crafty to make one. I can only really sew square things

Well I'm really sorry but i have to share fantastic news. Xavier fed at about 8.30 last night after happily playing on the floor with dad for about 30 mins, and then fel into a deep sleep. He was asleep and in bed by about 9.15 and didn't wake up uuntil 4.15 am!! yes that's 7 hours!! I was so happy. Then after feeding him at 4.45am he was staring up at me smiling. At first I didn't think he was going to go back to sleep, but in the end I just put him back in his cot and walked away. He then slept till 7.30 when I nudged nathan and said your turn (being saturday and all) Nathan got him up, changed him played a little, then when he started getting grizzly he went and had a shower with him. they came back at 8.30 and I'd fallen asleep again

Needless to say i'm pretty happy with that.

Only problem right now is we have to go to my mums for tea soon, and he's fast asleep, i don't want to wake him.

Well wishing you all a good night tonight and hopefully a sleep in of sorts in the morning.

**Fruitloop** · September 8th, 2007, 08:05 PM

Hi all, just popping in for a quick one...have had a busy day with visitors and shopping - had to buy a new baby bath b/c Alessia was launching herself in the old bath, to almost jump out of the water. Hard to explain, but b/c she's so long, we needed a new bath! Take care everyone, and I hope you're having an awesome weekend!!!