ahhh....yes....Luey! Of course it all gets difficult when you aren't happy with the way things are but you don't know what else to try. You've just gotta try and pick and choose which bits of advice you are comfortable/happy with.
Mel, hi can't think of much to say as I usually speak to you the most! Hope James is keeping up his change in habits for you.
All-boys I haven't had any AF here to speak of. I have a Mirena in so had a fair bit of spotting but now I've had nothing for ages. I don't know if it's the BFing or the Mirena. I also have guilty mother days where i feel terrible for being angry with the kids because I'm tired. I've been making a real effort lately to be a lot calmer myself (I get a real temper with the kids!) and it seems to be going better. Ben especially is being a really angry little boy at times and me being angry back just isn't helping things only escalating them. How do you cope with the 4 kids? I'm still thinking I'd like another but I'm just not 100% sure yet.....
Catherine glad Flynn went well with his needles. We went to get Jake's done but he was too unwell. Glad Flynn is taking the bottle for you now, I don't think there's a problem propping the bottle up on pillows as long as you are always there to supervise . Did you go back to work? I was thinking about this the other day and I thought you said you went back for a couple of days a week?
Macca glad to hear all is well now in your camp. Sounds like a shocker of a week though! I LOVE the smooches too, Jake is much the same, it's just too cute! and Will with 4 teeth!! what a champ! i would have ditched one of the baptisms, it's all a bit much really!! It's ok to want to have guests there to witness the occasion but it loses the sentiment when it's all about the pressies!!
Laura glad to hear from you, I am thinking of you often! My best friend was telling me of a friend of hers who is doing it tough ATM. She has a 2yo not long diagnosed with Autism, a NB who has some issues with her legs and on top of it all she has PND also. Makes me think of you and how much tougher this whole mothering job is for you guys. I really think Mums with PND need a medal! I feel so honoured that you can and do let us in on it all and I just hope wel all help in some small way.
Hmm....who have I missed?? Reenie??? Where are you girl?
Ok I'm off, I've got all my work done for the night, about the get Chloe into bed (she slept this afternoon), do some nappy hunting (TOO addictive) and then hit the hay myself. I'm HOPING Jake will have a good night tonight
I'm feeling much better now, sorry for the whinge.
Catherine, I give Jake orange in eighths, so i cut it in half, then each half in quarters, peel the skin off and give it to him. I do have to keep an extra eye on him though and pull it out once it's all stringy and he's sucked all th juice out! Well done on the cloth too You will notice a difference in your hip pocket! Even if you manage one cloth nappy a day that's 365 you have saved from landfill too. I used a terry flat for the first time today on Jake. I much prefer my MCN, much easier to put on a squirming baby!
It's been rather quiet in here! took me a while to find the thread.
Just a quick one to say that Sam's sleep has gone out the window.He MUST be teething, still a big lump on his gum but tooth as yet.He only had one nap yesterday and it was when I was driving and he woke every hour and a half last night,AAAHHH!
gosh it's been awhile... hope everyone is having a good long weekend
So I think Dusty has decided he isn't going to crawl but walk, he would have me holding onto his hands all day long if I could/would little bugger. He has me holding his hands while he walks around the house & to toys etc.... If I don't cooperate then I get 'the world is ending' look & he starts to cry on me driving me a bit crazy. At least when he is in the mood he will stay on his tummy instead of rolling straight onto his back so he is now pushing himself backwards which is also frustrating him cause he wants to be going forwards not backwards poor kid. Thank god for spring we've been out in the yard a few times & Dusty seems to love it, he gives off this excited squeal everytime the dogs come near him it is so cute. Sleeping is still a little over the place but we are finaly putting him into the cot so I can get started on a routine. I have rescheduled Trisillian until end of Oct so I will see how I go. Is anyone else still wrapping your baby's?
Laura, I'm really glad the meds seem to be working & I hope you get many, many more happy days too. D's sleep was awful when his teeth were coming through & unfortunately it took a few days for them to come through. Do whatever you can to get you through, hope you get some teeth soon. How's the study going? Have you heard back from the mothers & baby unit yet?
Bec, of course GF means grand final, I was thinking girl friend so I really didn't connect the 2 at all - sorry about that. Well hopefuly Geelong will have better luck next year. Things are o.k here, just **** I put up with for too long but things change when you have kids so we are working through it, thanks for asking. How's Jake's sleeping going?
Macca, Glad Will travelled well & glad DH is home For your own sake maybe think about flying though You could try giving him some prune juice or pears/peaches to help soften things for him, I'm not sure if it's normal or not, hopefully someone else can answer that for you.
Reenie, congragulations on the job woo hoo. It sounds you have found a decent pead now & I hope her tests go well. Very jealous of your 14 hr sleep
Stacey, I would have thought the chance of your DS peeing on the bed would have meant DH wouldn't have left him in the middle of the bed. I'm glad it worked out & as you said I am sure the first of many mishaps. We had Dusty sitting out in the yard the other day & I didn't even think to put a pillow behind him until he fell over - poor kid but he loved it.
Luey, glad you are going to keep going with b/f, I have to say the whole teeth thing scares me but so far it's o.k. The time is going by way too quickly.
Andie, glad the travelling went well, that's a lot of km's to cover you did really well. I have about 5 mnths mat leave left, powerball would be very nice. I don't want to think about it too much it is much too depressing. I'm hoping to only go back parttime if I have to.
Hayley, I haven't been to the dr's yet either, I am going to go in the next couple of weeks
Well it's way after my bedtime, hi to everyone else, chat later xxoo
Been a while for me too but for now just need a vent or I'll explode!! Sorry in advance....
Supposed to have friends visiting today. Haven't heard from them at all and I'm sick of chasing them, just wish i could be let know a yes or no and when??!!!!
The house is a bombshell, lost time still due to daylight savings and haven't quite caught up. Jake wont go down, Ben keeps leaving it too late to go to the toilet. Two red wine stains on the carpet (we both spilt some and no....wasn't drunk, lol) I'm trying to clean, DH is home in bed cos his contacts got lost in his eyes and he's unwell, oh and i have the magic headache again.
I'm SO stressed cos I can just see that if I relax and don't worry my visitors will turn up to this bomb site. If I get it clean they probably just won't turn up. Murphys Law.
Anyway, sorry, needed that though
Will get back for personals tonight. Glad you all have a long weekend cos we don't!
xxx
OMG it gets worse. got up from PC after posting and Jake's nappy had leaked onto me. Took his nappy off and left him on the floor for TWO seconds while I changed. Came back and he'd pooed and weed and had a nice clump of poo in his hand and on his lip. *sigh* anyone know where i can run and hide??
Last edited by *becstar*; October 6th, 2008 at 10:03 AM.
you can come & hide up here Bec, hope things improved over the day for you. At least if you did clean the house & your freinds don't come you have a clean house to look at
I also hope you can see the funny side of Jake's 'prank' today cause FWIW I got a giggle when I read it - thinking of his lips hehehehe (yes I am a little weird but you get that)
sorry guys for my rant yesterday. Nic i did see the funny side of course but at the time it was no so funny, I'm sure it would have looked funny though!!! I would have giggled too.
Ok now where to start?? I had a lovely visit with old friends yesterday in the end. It was full on and busy but so good. and I got to chat about the stuff that's been going on with DH which was especially nice, it's not something i'd talk about to just anyone.....it's a bit of a sensitive topic and I'm so scared I'll get judged about it. But I got some new perspecitives and advice so it was all good.
Things have changed a little for me...for a long time I haven't been able to stop thinking about another baby and how I could convince DH to have another. But at the moment I'm happy as is, and I feel content. Jake is growing so fast I don't want to miss a second of it and at the moment I think another baby would just be TOO much. Plus there's the issue of buying a house and Dh and I both really want to get that happening. Things are kind of improving with DH, I'm making a real effort to be fun to be around again and not just a grumpy old mummy. It's hard, I like to stick to the routine with the kids and when something goes wrong I get quite anxious about it but I'm trying to not stress so much and it seems to be working in that the whole household is a lot calmer and nicer to be in. I think to big wake up for me was when DH and I were having a discussion (and I say discussion becuase I can't say it's a calm conversation!) and I actually told him that I'd been thinking for a long time that I should really just leave . I know I think about it more than he does, maybe i'm a drama queen but he rarely takes it to that level. When I told him this he shot back that i wasn't the only one to think that. Shocked the hell outta me because he just doesn't think that unless it's really serious. Hmm......so anyway, it was a good discussion in the end, some communication came out of it and it's improving. Still going to be hard work, but I feel confident it will be ok.
Anyway......
Nic, thanks for offering me a place to hide! I needed one. Mega bad morning. Jake also likes to walk holding hands but I just won't do it! Caused a few tanties but he got over it. His crawling has improved heaps because of it and he's so fast now! I haven't wrapped Jake for yonks. His sleeping is ok....bad days and good days, he's awake for ages in the afternoons, never sleeps after 3pm so he's awake from then until 7pm. Still waking (lol there he goes now!) around 12pm but he is getting better at settling sometimes with just a cuddle and not always booby.
Reenie I wouldn't be concerned about Serays'a size, Jake is only 7kg and I think James is around that mark too. And Jake eats 5x a day plus lots of booby!! If you are worried maybe another bottle in the day? I'm sure the recommendation is 3-4 bottles a day at this age? I don't know that solids necesserily gives them much of their nutritional value atm. Congrats on your job too.
Macca, hope you are feeling better now! What a mammoth road trip! On the pebbles, DD always did pebbles so I wouldn't worry at all. Just what Will does nice and easy to clean!
Laura.....you are so generous Thanks. Great to hear you are feeling good too, that fantastic! How are Sam's teeth and sleeps?? We still have no teeth here.
Luey congrats on your bf goal! How is E doing? Has he bee unwell or just teeth? I know what you mean about the weight.......
All-boys, lol at Scouts crash, my other two both did that and it was my fault! The first of many....... Thanks for the cruskits idea, i'll have to try that. Jake's fave food is oranges, he goes beserk when he sees me cutting one! Very messy though.
Catherine, thanks for the tip, I'll try it!! How are you all doing?
Andie good to have you back!! Was thinking of you. Glad Cam travelled so well, he's a champ that boy
Robbo, you are a star! Thanks for the nappies. I gathered all my NB stuff to sell off and my friend with her NB yesterday took a heap to try so I think I may convert her she was having leaking Huggies and used a fleece cover over one overnight and sent me a very excited text this morning to say no leaks! I was thinking how lucky I was to have you to patiently explain the in's and outs of baby wearing and MCN to me . Hope the boys are feeling better too. I love the selendang on your blog too!!
Hi to everyone else, Nina how are the wedding plans going? And Cohen? Who else did I miss?? Oh Mel, lol.......I'll catch up with you by txt anyways :P
Just a really , really quick one to say we have a tooth!!! It cut through today, just a small little corner of it.Hopefully I'll get some more sleep now!
Reenie ? this is a bit overdue, but welcome back. You sound busy ? good on you re: your job. Seraya sounds like she?s doing well with her solids and for her two teeth! Glad to hear you and your DH have settled in well in your new house.
Luey ? does E have his back teeth yet? How?s his sleeping going? You said E plays with his toes, Cam?s latest trick is to put a big toe in his mouth. Am glad the reflux treatment has helped E.
Jo ? don?t think for a minute that Isabella is behind. The babies in this thread are all wildly different ? for instance, their weights range from around 10kg to 7kg. But they?re all healthy, thriving babies. Cam is a bit like Isabella ? he?s only just mastered rolling from his back to his front, and he?s not quite able to sit unassisted. You?re right, they?ll get there in their own sweet time .
Hayley ? hope you and the kids are now feeling better . Have you been able to catch up on a little sleep?
All-boys - Glad to hear Scout was ok after his wee fall! But, guess it's bound to happen to them all sooner or later. DH's mean well, don't they ... but sometimes they just miss the mark. My DH is a great, hands on dad but my big bugbear with him is that he won't go and dress Cam of his own accord ... because "I don't know what you want him to wear". Sigh, guess if that's my only bugbear I'm not badly off!
Macca - I remember the drive from Darwin to Bris well (albeit you did it in reverse) ... for the most part, you didn't miss much! Hope all's now well with you.
OK ... who have I missed? My apologies if I have - not intentional!
By the way, think Nic it was you asking about wrapping? I haven't wrapped Cam since he was about 4 weeks old. He used to wriggle and worm until he'd worked the wrap loose and then put his arms above his head. I gave it up as a bad joke in the end as he slept better without the wrapping.
Sam has slept so much better the last 3 nights.Must have been his tooth giving him grief.He started biting though last night and with that tooth is absolutely kills!
Andie,Crap about the ear infection, I feel your pain.Sam was soooo bad when he had one.My gosh, I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy.Thank you again.
Catherine, Glad to hear your trip went well apart from the plane trip.So good he is sleeping through and I'm glad to hear the transition to formula have been relatively easy.See you soon.
Robbo, I hope this post finds you feeling a lot better.
Luey,How is everything Worth E been the last few days?Hope you're getting more sleep.
Bec,I saw you on msn the other day and got your message but then my computer crashed!I wasn't ignoring you,promise!I got the baby legs, I'll post them sometime this week.I'm giving you white ones with brown cow print.Pretty damn cute!Hope everything goes well while DH is away.
Nis, how are things?
The local Mother/Baby unit called me last night and said they have a cancellation this week if I want to go in.After speaking with her and finding out that I will have my own room and Sam can sleep next to me, I have decided it's worth a go.I can always leave if i hate it.So I'm off later this morning and will be gone for 3 nights.I am a little anxious about it but figure, what have I got to lose by trying it? But II won''t have BB! what am going to do??
Anyway, i better be off and get packing.I'll be back online Thursday.
Good luck Laura. Enjoy the break. sounds liek you are doing better though.
Jsut a quick on from me. E is whinging. Poor love has a temp of 38 . Is better than yesterday though when he was so listless I couldn't put him down. we laid on our bed all day and he slept there. No back teeth. They just come up and go down
I'm back and I have so much to say so I might have to do this in parts....
Sam has been well, he has slept through 2 nights in the last week about 10:30 - 5 am, then gone back to sleep until 7am.He has cut his second tooth, that's two in one week!
He is just so cute, his personality is really starting to shine through and he=e is babbling all the time.Things like 'bababa' , 'dadada' and 'mamama' so cute! He has finally started rolling all the time, only from back to tummy though and cracks it when he wants to get back to his back.
AFM, welll....where to start....as you know I went to the MBU, it was great in the way that I could relax a little and I met two local girls who are lovely so I don't feel so isolated in the area.It really was more of a sleep school though.I refused to do the whole CC thing while I was there and had Sam sleep with me the whole time.I couldn't do it, it would have made things so much worse for me.
I crashed though, I though the new medication was doing a great job but it was only for a couple of days and then I felt worse.Turns out the new ones I was put on where to similar to the old ones and wouldn't really work.I am in the process of changing again to something entirely different.It's a very slow process though, can take a month or two.
It is messing with me big time and I have been having panic attacks and feeling as though I am not coping.Because of how bad I have been they are recommending I go to a different MBU for a while to speed up the change over, they can't do it at home incase it messes with me even more, they want to make sure I am in a safe environment.Gosh this all makes me sound like a complete nutter.....
On the plus side, it will be in a private hospital ( gotta get some use of my insurance!) and from what I have heard, it's more like a hotel, huge double beds, your own balcony and DH can stay whenever he likes.I am waiting to hear the final details today and should know when I can go in later today.I'm hoping it won't be for long.I went to the BB support group yesterday and the lady who runs it knows a bit about the hospital and seemed to think it wouldn't be more than 10 days tops, if that.
I actually don't feel to bad right now, and it makes me think maybe I shouldn't bother, but I know how quickly my mood can change.I just have to get this over with then hopefully I'll be good from then on and can put all this crap behind me.Blah...why does it have to be so damn difficult!!! sorry for moaning!
Now I will try and get some personals done, hello and sorry if I miss you.
Andie,So happy the flight went well.I would be so scared about it if it were me!lol about the bath.How funny! I have been waiting for Sam to it!
I hope Cam feels more himself soon, poor little chicken.
Luey, How is E? Poor thing, I hope he is getting better.
Bec,How is everything going? how are you managing on your own.Must be very hard.Jake sounds so clever! I can't believe he is pulling up, little muscle man!
Catherine, sorry I haven't gotten back to you, been so up and down and so forgetful.I couldn't change my appointment today so won't be able to come.Next Wednesday should be fine as long as I am home.Will text you later incase you don't get online to read this.Feels like ages since I saw you, hope to see you soon.I be Flynn will be double the size when I next see him.
Hi to everybody else!
I'm going to finish now, only so much I can say in one post! I'll bbl when I know what is going on.
Ok, well, I'm still here! I'm just going to copy and paste a thread I posted in the DEp/anxiety private forum so I don't have to retype the whole thing.
Hope you are all well and I'll bbl later to do personals.xx
'Mother and Baby unit *vent*'
"After many calls by my doctors, a bed became available at a Melbourne MBU yesterday.I was given just a couple of hours notice to get pack and get there in peak hour traffic.
I have always said to everybody involved that I co-sleep and will not budge on that,I might put DS in a cot right next to me but that is as far as I would go.
When I got to the unit I was already stressed to the roof from rushing around.When I got there I discovered that MBU and eating disorders are in the same section.Nothing like a few sickly thin girls with feeding tubes in thee noes to make you feel better about your life right? ha! it was incredibly depressing.The whole ward had a weird feel to it.
I was shown to my cell like room, no windows, very dark and cold.I was to be sharing with an anorexic girl.I don't really have an issue with that, she deserves/needs to be there more than I do but still, I felt uneasy about it all.
When they sat down to tell me about the place the informed me that there was no way I would be sleeping with my DS, the way the nurse said it was if to say "didn't you know you could kill your baby?' I sort of understand that they don't want to be responsible if anything was to happen but it turned out I wasn't even allowed to have my DS in the room with me.He had his own special bedroom down the corridor and around the corner about 100 meters away.Thee were to be no monitors, if he needed me during the night they would come and get me.I explained to them that I would not be able to sleep without my Son next to me.There answer was to simply have sleeping tablets, something pretty routine anyway I got the impression.It made me feel as though they were saying that a good nights sleep will fix my PND.I sleep fine!! I have been for months.Why would I want to go back wards in my recovery? Why on earth do they want to separate the mothers from there babies? a lot of women with PND have trouble bonding, wouldn't you want to encourage that?
They then took me on tour of the ward and the first thing they showed me was where the bottles and sterilizer was kept and were shocked when I said I wouldn't be needing them as I breastfed.WTF?They then showed me the room where you have to do your overnight feeds, you went allowed to feed you babies in the babies room, gosh no! you might fall asleep with them and if that happens they take your baby away from you for the rest of the night.
After about an hour I told them I wanted to go home and that I didn't think this was going to help me, in fact I thought the opposite, it would send me back wards.When I sat down to be discharged they kept asking me if I can out my DS down for even a minute during the day, implying that I because I co-sleep I must have some very unhealthy attachment issues.Bleh.I left 2 hours after I got there.
When I rang the people who have been looking after my case and organising me to get into a unit they made me feel as though I was a spoiled little brat for making then get me in there only to leave after 2 hours.I somehow don't think I'll be receiving anymore support from them.They made me feel like crap and made in clear in not so many words that I had done the wrong thing.
You are definitely not being unreasonable, why would you want to do something that would set your recovery backwards, like bec I have a crawling baby here so will post more later but just wanted to let you know that I would have done the same in your situation. You are definitely not being a brat & they should have known enough about you to realise this wasn't the sort of place for you.
I'm back on BB as of today and while I don't have time for personals, but I just wanted to send a hug to Laura. Hun, I can't put myself in your shoes but I don't think you're being unreasonable. You have a (natural!!!) close bond with your son and that bond - as well as your routines etc at home - should be nurtured and encouraged as part of your recovery. IMO, you're not being a "spoiled little brat" - you're protecting your close relationship with your son. All the very best to you.
I'm on FB too, so if a strange name pops up to be your friend, it's probably me!
Will be back over the weekend to catch up with everyone properly.
Oh, quick question before I forget ... when I'm BFing Cam, sometimes he starts grabbing hunks of his hair and pulling, hard. Alternatively, he starts whacking himself in the head. Not always, but it happens on and off. Does this sound like "normal" behaviour? He certainly seems "normal" enough. Anyone else experienced this with their bubs?????
Laura- Hugs. IMO opinion you aren't being unreasonable. These are the parenting decisions you and your DH have made and you know what is best for you. Hang in there hun you will get there.
Andie - E sometimes has a flappy arm while feeding. I haven't noticed him pulling out his hair.
Bec,njd, melbel, macca and everyone - hi
We have been away. It has been a mega week or so. We spent 3 days in adelaide, I and E spent 4 days in tas, another night in adelaide then 2 nights in Clare. It has been very busy. I twas good I caught up with my family and best friend. I didn't let you know Bec as I was in the north of the state.
E had his immunisations yesterday, finally. Is a bit out of sorts today unsure if it is them or teething or the fact I stopped his zantac. I restarted it tonight but was a bad time to stop it anyway. I am off to the paed in a few weeks so will see what he says.
We have 4 teeth now and I don't think the top ones are far away. E has rolled from back to tummy finally a week ago but doesn't often repeast it. IT is like he has said I can do it now can't be bothered. He is getting better at sittingtoo but he is so interested in everything he is always overbalancing. He has leant forwards a few times and gone onto his belly but that is a fluke I think rather than planning. He will get there. I did want him to be crawling by xmas but now I am not fussed. some advice given to me was not to wish his babyhood away. I do do that sometimes so am trying not to. He has already grown so much and won't want all the cuddles etc in a few years.
HAve a lovely weekend and I will try and email some pics soon
can't think of much to say as I usually speak to you the most! Hope James is keeping up his change in habits for you.
. Did you go back to work? I was thinking about this the other day and I thought you said you went back for a couple of days a week?
I feel so honoured that you can and do let us in on it all and I just hope wel all help in some small way.
how are you doing?
poor kid. Thank god for spring we've been out in the yard a few times & Dusty seems to love it, he gives off this excited squeal everytime the dogs come near him it is so cute. Sleeping is still a little over the place but we are finaly putting him into the cot so I can get started on a routine. I have rescheduled Trisillian until end of Oct so I will see how I go. Is anyone else still wrapping your baby's?
of course GF means grand final, I was thinking girl friend so I really didn't connect the 2 at all - sorry about that. Well hopefuly Geelong will have better luck next year. Things are o.k here, just **** I put up with for too long but things change when you have kids so we are working through it, thanks for asking. How's Jake's sleeping going?
For your own sake maybe think about flying though 
You could try giving him some prune juice or pears/peaches to help soften things for him, I'm not sure if it's normal or not, hopefully someone else can answer that for you.
. I know I think about it more than he does, maybe i'm a drama queen but he rarely takes it to that level. When I told him this he shot back that i wasn't the only one to think that. Shocked the hell outta me because he just doesn't think that unless it's really serious. Hmm......so anyway, it was a good discussion in the end, some communication came out of it and it's improving. Still going to be hard work, but I feel confident it will be ok. 
she was having leaking Huggies and used a fleece cover over one overnight and sent me a very excited text this morning to say no leaks! I was thinking how lucky I was to have you to patiently explain the in's and outs of baby wearing and MCN to me 
. Hope the boys are feeling better too. I love the selendang on your blog too!!
. Have you been able to catch up on a little sleep? 
. Is better than yesterday though when he was so listless I couldn't put him down. we laid on our bed all day and he slept there. No back teeth. They just come up and go down
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