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thanks bron, thanks so much hun.. what do you mean by tough love.. is it the CC?
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i forgot to add.
we went for to the pool today and poopy had so much fun.. he was crawling and splashing in the water. then i held his hands to walk, and i let go and he actually took one step forward unaided!! he did this twice. not sure how soon he will walk but the water would have helped with support.
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Yep probably some cc if they feel thats what lakshman needs to break so habits. They are there for you though prama they are working to help you and make your whole itme with bub better.It may mean its hard for both of you and I dont mean to make it sound negative becasue its not the fact you are going becasue you need some help is great alot of people dont make that move. They make no judgment on how you bring up your thy give you guidance. I know I have never been but as I Said I have reffered a lot of parents and researched alot of the methods.
Take care ok and take on board all you can *Hugs*
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thanks bron, am leaving now..
i know you didnt make it seem negative, but from all the posts elsewhere ive read and what ppl said, they made it sound like they are nazi like..
thabks so much hun
xoxox
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Good luck Prama. I think everyone comes away with a different experience. I think for some it was just what they needed, others leave the first night. I think it depends on where you are & who is looking after you.
I have never been there myself though. I hope it works out for you.
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...hp?photo=12024 - Jaz after her scooter incident.
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OMG, poor love.
Jazz had terrible wind last night that kept me awake for about 1.5 hours...this is what sucks about Matt being away, he'd normally deal with her at night. I brought her to bed with me until she was completely out of it. I did the leg pumping which I haven't done since she was about 3 months old. I think it's because I've changed her from Heinz step 2 formula to step 3 toddler formular because I can't find any of the step 2.
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hi girls.
a quickie.. as bron said it is tough love, but it helps when the nurses help and guide you. but it's really hard.. it's so hearbreaking.. im just confused at this stage. ive met some lovely mums and dads and they all feel this way..
it's so hard.
i love my baby so much.. i can understand their approach and how to listen to his cries and what he's saying.. but it's so hard and heart wrenching...
i cant wait to get home... staying here is so boring, thank god we all watch the kids play together and that entertains us how they communicate. and a few of us went out to the park cos we were just getting cabin fever....
talk more soon
hope you all are doing well.
xoxo
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Hi girls,
Sorry I have been so slack..... just been so busy with DJ. He is back into his regular routine, took him to daycare today and he was much happier when coming home, lately he has been non-stop grizzling and whinging and clingy..... arghhhhh I love him to bits and he is very cuddly but I need to get things done..... Anyway it has been ever since we went away for a week - it through him out of wack, couldn't crawl around as much so didn't have alot of freedom..... Oh and the bruises..... His head looks like bruises galore because he is trying to walk by himself but just falls down on his bum, soooo funny but I feel for him. Sometimes I think his head is too heavy for his body..... Other than that, all good, no more teeth, just the two bottom front ones. I do hope it gets easier when each one comes through because it has been so hard. Doni and I haven't argued so much before DJ and now all we ever do is argue because of lack of sleep.
Prama - I am suffering the same with DJ, he just won't sleep through the night, his teething bothers him though but I always find him on his belly and on his knees and head to the side...... I am not sure if he does that because he is uncomortable or if his tummy is sore..... I think something is wrong, but doctor said he is just constipated..... I am going to doctors tomorrow anyway so will ask him because he thought it might be a urine infection but it is so hard to catch some urine from a baby!!!!
Danni - yeah a change in formula's will always trigger problems..... I haven't changed DJ over to any other brands just sticking to the same. Hope she feels better.
Skye - how is the new place going? How was the big banana? noticed your status on facebook.
Bron - that is such great news about your blood count YAY
Can't read anymore posts, so to everyone else, hope you are all well.
Shell xxx
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I haven't changed brands, just gone to the toddler milk version of the same brand because I couldn't find any 6-12 month formula in my brand anywhere and I searched for over a week! She seems to like the toddler milk though, she is actually drinking a whole bottle all the time rather than leaving 40-60ml like she did at least twice a day with the 6-12 month milk.
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Oh ok, that is interesting..... mind you when I changed from stage 1 to stage 2 for DJ he had issues with wind and constipation, so maybe it just affects them.....
Question for everyone..... once they turn 1, they are allowed cows milk, so does mean we don't give them formula anymore or do they need 1 feed a day or something.... I know this is a dumb question but I can't be bothered researching it....
I am soooooo tired, I am suffering from insomnia, and I am overtired, always sleepy, just thinking too much. I think I need something to help with it, might look at some vitamins today.
Anyone using cloth nappies at night finding their babies pee is really stinking now when you change them in the morning? I am not sure if that is from the teething or just them pee'ing alot more..... but it has been reeking.... I am going to tell the doctor about it in case it has something to do with a urine infection..... My gut is telling me something isn't quite right with him and I just don't know what..... Do you think I am just being overprotective??? or worrying about nothing???? He is still sleeping with knees up to his chest and on his belly with head to side..... maybe it is nothing.....
He is still waking several times at night, not sure if it is teething pain or dreams, but he seems to go back to sleep at the beginning of the night by himself it is just early morning that he sometimes can't get himself back to sleep.... I don't feed him anymore at this time, first bottle feed is now normally around 5am.
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I read that from age 1 they are meant to have 600ml milk a day and they should be offered food before milk. Probably a good idea to slowly introduce cows milk, maybe a small amount at a time and formula the rest of the time and slowly increase cows milk/reduce formula. Me and my FDC lady have discussed trying to reduce the amount of bottles Jazz has. She always has a big lunch. I've packed a banana for her for tomorrow.
I worked out why Jazz wasn't taking water. She didn't like the cup. I've changed cups and now she has some sips. Trying to make her have at least a mouthful every hour now.
I've uploaded a very happy photo of her https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...hp?photo=12056
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I started cows milk a bit after 11 months with the girls. Just a bottle here & there & just didn't buy any FF. I just used what was left. They don't need any FF at all, but cow's milk is preferred to be given in a cup. They are also sposed to go off the bottle at 12 months.
& food should be their main source of nutrition from then. Basically 3 - 6 meals a day with milk & water just for drinks. Which means going to sleep without a bottle.....sounds like fun huh!
With Jaz I went cold turkey at 17 months & she never had a bottle again. With Bri I switched to pop tops at around 2 & she still needs one to go to sleep.
Have a look at me pics of Bri on facebook. Her teeth are why you should try & get rid of the bottle for bed asap. Her 2 front ones are curved in the middle. I am trying to get her off it, but its really hard at her age.
Jesse is having water pretty often coz there are usually 2 bottles & a cup with water in them laying around on the floor, so as he wanders around the house he'll stop for a dring as he pleases. I don't worry about boiling it any more.
& we always have a bottle of water in the car for him. So he uses it as a game & amuses himself with it.
Shell - house is good. I'm loving having my own place, but its so hard to get anything done coz I'm on my own. There is still so much unpacking & sorting to do. I really should be doing it now...
Big Banana was good. We watched a little movie about banana's, then went on the plantation tour...sooo boring. It was kinda interesting I guess. Then we took the girls ice skating up there. I'll put some photo's of them on face book. They loved it.
Jesse's nappies are pretty stinky in the mornings too, but I don't change him over night & he's in sposies.
He's still waking once a night at least. He just cut his vampire teeth the same as Summer, lol! His middle top teeth are coming close behind, but they haven't cut yet.
I left him with mum for the day when we went & did the ice skating & stuff. I was so lost with out him! I've only been away from him for more than 20 minutes once back when he was 5 weeks old. He actually had a great time & didn't cry at all! Mum hasn't been able to go near him since I got home though. I think he's worried she'll take him away again. Lol!
So are any of you guys still BFing at all? Or am I the only one?? I don't think I am, but I can't remember.
How's things going Prama?? Hope they are treating you two ok there.
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I tried giving Jazz some formula in a sippy cup last night. She sucks on the new cups I got her (the take and toss ones) but still doesn't like the one we spent heaps of money on (typical). But she spat the milk out straight away. I don't know if it's because she got too much in her mouth at once. I've told the FDC lady to start trying to reduce the amount of bottles she has. She has 3 at daycare as well as 1 before daycare and 1-2 at night and sometimes 1 in the middle of the night. So generally in a 24 hour period she's having 5-6 bottles as well as food. I really need to cut back on her bottles don't I?
Last night I did something different. When we got home from work/daycare I steamed some carrot sticks and cauliflower for dinner and put some on a plate for Jazz. She ate about half of it and played with the rest. She then had a bath and a bottle and was heaps more settled and went to sleep heaps easier than normal. I don't normally give her food after daycare because I know she has a lot during the day. Think I'd better do that more often.
In another thread, someone referred to her as a toddler...that's the first time she's been called a toddler. I'm not ready to be the mother of a toddler! I guess though that at this age they are at the start of toddlerdom aren't they
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Danni sounds like Jazz might have been hungry of a night huh? Will still has 4 bottle a day one when he gets up around 6 then he has brekky about 8.30ish after his morning sleep then he will have a bottle 11 then lunch at 1 ish most days. He has afternoon tea around 4 ish and another bottle then he has tea at 6 ish then another bottle before bed around 8. Some days he is off his food if his gums are hassling him so he gets an extra bottle becasue its all he wants. He has taken water out of a cup since he was 5 months old and happily drinks form it during the day. I find the more active Will gets the more he wants to eat so he has a small snack of watermelon or a cheese stick for morning tea and afternoon tea.SOme days he will eat very little and I figure as long as he is hydrated then he will be ok. maybe Jazz is saying she wants some more of a night.? When is the last time she eats at day care? Did you end up with a big mess from the veges? I gave WIll some pastsa cherry tomatoes and grated cheese the other night as these are his favs and I ended up with it ont he wall but he loved it. Had to take the high chair out to hose it down mind you *L*
YOu still on your own? How you handling it bet in some ways its easier keeping the routine yourself huh. HOpe thigns arent too rough for you and you manage to sort stuff with hubby one way or the other this year.Love the new pic happy girl indeed.
Skye dont envy you unpacking hun bit at least its your place huh and you can have stuff where you want it.YOu must be loving being close to the beach with this weather.
Prama thinking of you each day and hoping that all is going well and poopy is learning to sleep fo ryou.
Shell am so jelous of your holiday plans I have terribley itchy feet to travel again. Am afraid the South coast is as far as we will go this year but am excited to say we have booked ahouse for the 2nd week in Feb..I cant wait.
SJ you back yet?? I had visions of you hun and you all camping with the runs *L* I shouldnt laugh and hope to go this wasnt the case and you and Mj enjoyed some time with hubby.
Trina?? how you girl?? This isnt the year of the OX but the year of Trina right!!! hope you and the girls are well.
Well thats me got to go make some dinner. WIll is with Dad atm we are sick of the sight of each other today and am having a bit of quiet time in the front room *L*
Love to all xx
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Thanks for the info about how Will eats. I need to make some changes with Jazz. She wont like it but she needs to start relying less on the bottle. Thankfully the veggies weren't messy, she dropped one carrot stick on the floor and the rest that she didn eat got put all over the highchair tray and onto her lap.
Went to Maccas for dinner tonight and she ate about a dozen fries.
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hi girls..
quick update as im exhausted and poopy's got mild gastro, so we got kicked out today!! haha
i found some personality traits seeing him going thru the settling process and playing with other babies. he's been very stubborn in accepting the new routine, but seems to be getting better. slowly but i t hink we will get there, and he will learn to go to sleep himself w/o being rocked etc.
the other thing i found when he's playing w other children is that he loves playing with all the kids, and goes around playing with each one of them, but at the same time is independant and will go off and explore other things by himself. the downside i found is that he's got toy envy.. he wants to play with whatever toy another baby is playing with!!
he's starting to self-settle. i feel a lot more confident and now can distingush his different cries, just plain protest or him being upset. and know when to go in and comfort him. it is tough love, bron.. but it also taught us that he has to learn to accept what he teach him, instead of the other way round. it was really hard at the start, my heart would tear into a million pieces w each cry but i got more confident and understood how he's feeling. it wasnt so bad as the nurses stood w me outside the door and explained to me each time, what he was going thru and we didnt let him cry for more than 5 mins.. it was all up to me when i wanted to go in.. and tehy guided me. that's the SS in brief...
as for his other routine, they said at his age of almost 11 mths, it should be like this...
bf before bfast
bfast
sleep for 1.5 hrs
play
lunch
formula
sleep 1.5 hrs
play
dinner
bath
bf
cuddles/story
bed.
im going to bf morning and night and ff in the afternoon as he will be in daycare.
danni - maybe you could talk to an MCN to workout a routine for daycare days and weekends for jazz.
everyone - thanks for your thoughts and support. self settling is hard work.. but we are trying... xoxox
we met some lovely parents and bubs, lakshman bonded with another boy 2 weeks younger than him and a girl 15mths old. the boy and poopy would sit next to each other in their highchairs and hold out their hands and hold hands. and during play, they would play w each, seek each other out and play w one arm over each others shoulders.
so we are going to keep in touch and see each other again.
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HI girls...
Have been back for a while, but been really busy.
Sorry wont reply properly to everyone, but will try and catch up
Prama- glad you are ok and learnt loads and you sound positive about the experience which is fatasticgood on you
Trina - WOOOO HOOO
Bron - luckily we were all OK by the time we left.. DH had the poops though (not the bowel ones) and made the trip quite unpleasent, he was so grumpy all day it was terrible.
The weather was so bad which made everything so much worse, it rained the first night and DSS tent leaked, so we eneded up buying a bigger one and he had our... also we decided to move camp sites after the first night - we ended up at a better one, but it was 2 days of setting up instead of one.. also he broke the trailer on the way down and as it was Dad's he had to fix it, but that annoyed him too.
It was the coldest start to Jan in history, it rained every day except NYE and the day we went home! MJ was so cold at night she had to sleep in my sleeping bag with me at night and needed feeding 2-3 times overnight.
If DH had of been able to put a positive spin on the disasters it would have been fantastic, TBH i enjoyed myself, but it was harder as she just grumped at everything...
We have however had a night apart and sometime to think since coming home and had a massive chat about the effort required in a relationship etc etc etc and things have been heaps better - so i guess a good thing came out of it... also we have decided to buy a caravan as we are NEVER going to tent it again!!!
there were some highlights, but i wont go into them all, loats of walking, biulding a dam in the river and I MANAGED TO STAY IN CLOTH WOOO HOOOOO despite the rain
Skye - congrats on the move/house, once you are set up you wont know yourself... Yep still totally BF here... going back to work PT in 3 weeks (sob) and will be leaving EBM for her and expressing at work...
Danni - sorry things are bad between you and Matt, maybe the time a part will give him some time to think and evaluate... you too, but you seem to know what you want and need... hope things work out for you
Shell - still in cloth full time here - have you tried a strip wash of your nappies? they get a build up of powder after a while and also with the teething wee, they tend to have a stink that you cant get out. I did one and the nappies are so much better now...
let me know if you want the details of a strip wash.
re the cows milk... i am going to ntroduce goats milk first as apparently it is closer to BM than cows and it is easier for them to digest.
when she hits 12 mths i will start introducing, but am still planning on BF too - it will just help during the day when i am at work... will also be giving her water and diluted apple juice ( planning on juicing myself - but will see how i go)
Hi lily - nice to hear from you again...
well i think i will leave it at that, sorry or the novel, i guess thats what happens when you are away for so long Sorry if i forgot anyone/thing
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Hi girls,
How are you all? I am pretty good, just watching Little Women on Foxtel which always makes me cry haha
SJ - my friend gave me recipe for strip wash but I have lost it, can you please let me know what it is. I remember bi-carb soda and vinegar etc.... just don't remember measurements.
Prama - wow sounds like self-settling is working for you. I really need to start something like that because DJ is becoming very clingy and alway whingy for me to carry him or cuddles. I blame our week away when he didnt' have the freedom to crawl around. He just doesn't like to be alone anymore, needs company. I need to stop picking him up all of the time and coming to him everytime he cries.....
How is Poopy's gastro? Is he better?
He will love being at daycare and mixing with the other babies, DJ has been great this week since being back at daycare, back to his routine.
Bron - the south coast break sounds awesome - so nice to get away. Yeah we are both looking forward to going away in July. It will involve alot of saving this year but worth it
Danni - any consolation, DJ doesn't drink from sippy cup either and I bought two of them. I think I will give it a go again when he is 11 months old and try some cows milk, hopefully it will work. He won't drink his water from sippy cup, actually he doesn't drink alot of water at all, only has it from bottle and then realises it is water.... arghhhh very frustrating.
Skye - I think I will start cows milk around 11 months as well. It will be different not having to pack his formula each day for daycare etc.... So how many milk (cows milk) feeds do they need during the day then?? I think I better do some reading....kehehee Sleep without a bottle, yeah very interesting.... Glad you are settling into the new place well.
DJ has yet another bruise on his head, side of face this time, he fell down and hit the silver bar of coffee table, so Doni took it off this morning. Poor thing the side of his face is swollen. We are starting to think we need to put a helmet on his head haha
Well better go, DJ due to wake up soon so better get his bottle ready
Shell xxxx
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