you want talk angry i hate ebay i am so thinking they are a rip off bunch of w***ers that run that show i placed my fetal heart rate doppler on for auction as i no longer need it ( ebay is where i brought it from ) and they pulled my auction saying it was a violation of ebay policies WTF so i have read every policy and have relisted it under a different title ( Prenatal listener doppler ) so we will soon see if i get kicked off ebay unbelievable .....