Kim I did all this stuff last time when trying to conceive and am a bit vague on it this time and also can't be bothered this time.

I believe thou, off memory that if you temp is dropping, it is the sudden rise that normally means ovulation and you have 12 or so hours to catch the egg. Otherwise all sperm can live for a period of time before this and get there too waiting for the egg. I never got noticable CM in my undies, I always had to go searching IYKWIM. Gross hey, sorry TMI. But I believe once this CM has gone from clear and sticky to cloudy then it is too late. As the clear stuff easily carries the sperm to the egg. Hope that helps.

I might remember more if you ask more questions.

I am just wingin it this time round. I went to so much trouble for 5 mths and it was so disheartening as I put my heart and soul into it. So this time I am in no rush, and it will happen when it happens.