Babies Born October 16th ~ 31st 2009

Sure Fi - I totally understand hon - it IS really hard!! In other culures bubs are raised in a kind of community based care - with new mothers surrounded by women who share the burdon for the mother. Unfortunately in our culture we are expected to bear the brunt of taking care of children alone - and it can really take its toll. If you really need help just shout it from the rooftops to anyone who you dont mind being in your personal space.
Don't be afraid to say "I need food - please get me this or that" or "come and do my washing and clean my kitchen!" If they really want to help you (instead of just ogle at baby) they will come running.

So - the sleepy wrap - you can order it online from nursing angel - they have everything you need for breastfeeding and babywearing. Comes in a great range of colours and one size fits all - even Dad! Its a bit fiddly to get on at first but once you get used to it its a peice of cake. I just put it on at the start of the day (and sometimes at night) and after each feed Jasper goes straight into it and falls asleep whilst I walk around the house. Rather than carry him until the next feed, I gently take him out when he is sound and place him on his tummy in his bassinette (as mentioned in my previous post). Whether or not you feel comfortable trying the tummy part is up to you - but I honestly would be in Ds's room every few minutes if I laid him on his back! :rolleyes:

The book is called On Becoming Babywise - there is a website where you can order the book and accompanying DVD. I can't post any links here but if you can't find it PM me and I'll send them to you. You may not necessarily agree with everything written in the book, but like most baby books go - you just take what you want from it- what works for you. As I said before, it really helped me.

As a side note, I also kept a food journal with DS1 (wrote down what I ate) incase he had a particularly bad night with wind and that way, if there were any patterns present it would give me an idea of what foods to avoid. The tricky part was working out how long it took for a particular food to enter the breastmilk. I think i worked out that it took at least 7 hours - so, for example if I ate a strong curry for dinner, the next couple of feeds may be fine - 9pm, 12am etc, but DS would start reacting badly to feeds in the wee hours of the next morning - like the 3am or 6am feed :rolleyes:

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Jellybean what is the sleepy wrap and where can I get one? Also what is the book you mentioned? I'm at my witts ends today after another restless night. I'm so totally exhausted. All I seem to do is feed her then try to settle her, feed her again etc etc and when settling takes forever or doesn't seem to work it feels like all I'm doing is feeding her and driving myself insane because one of my nipples is still really sore and it's a struggle to feed from that side, but seeing as I've had mastitis I know I need to keep using that boob otherwise it will all get much worse. So today I'm having a bit of a breakdown and I just don't know what to do! :crying: I know it will get better but in the meantime I don't know what to do so that I can cope with it better. As much as I love being a mum it is so much harder than I ever imagined!

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Fi- Your nipples will clear up ;) My were HORRIBLE for about 2.5wks ;) Try walking around letting your boobies free and pop some breast milk on them.
As for restless nights, try her pram???? Not ideal for a long period of time but will get you some sleep!

Well last night ladies I was up at 12am through till 4am:rolleyes: I have another clingy bubs but this one seems alot more clingy then I thought possible haha
Though last night was the 1st night in a while Annabelle didn't had to my stress with waking up. She slept through, pitty Lucy didn't get the memo that mummy needs sleep to SURVIVE!

Thank you JB and DM for all of your advice! It is so good to have girls like you that are not only going through the same thing but have already been through it before and have a few tricks up your sleeve! I will try and find those things online. JB as for the tummy sleeping I haven't tried it but I think most of us were probably put to sleep on our tummies as babies so I don't think it is as bad as what some people make out. Trends seems to chagne every few years so I think it's a matter of finding out what works best for your baby and that may not always be what the current experts say you should be doing. My SIL let her little boy sleep on his tummy as it was the only way he would settle, I think a lot of people do.

DM if I'd known you were up at that hour we could of had a chat! :lol: Leila kept me up from 11-4 last night... she got some sleep in between but I didn't. She is quite a clingy baby at times so everytime I think she's settled and I try and put her back into her bassinet she starts crying. Sometimes she just really needs her mummy.

Thanks ladies - again, I'll catch up on personals soon.

Just wanted to say regarding having a tough time - I REALLY feel like I am having a tough time.. With the BFing, the cracking has become so bad that I'm always expressing now because I've been bleeding thru the cracks which I discovered in the shower last night. I'm going late night shopping tonight, so I'm gonna see if I can pick up some nipple shields so I can recover... I really actually miss BFing DS :(
With sleep, don't get me started on that! I try my hardest to keep him awake during the day but by the time it comes around to night time, he's crying cause he's over tired and when he does eventually go to sleep (90% of the time lately he's falling asleep on my chest) and I transfer him to his basinette, he wakes up and starts screaming!

I'll bbl, I've mastered typing with one hand (many sprained wrists years ago thru playing sports also help that I mastered it years ago) but am struggling to feed a whining DS

Fi and Lj- The hole falling asleep then wake up once put back in bassinett thing is EXACTLY my problem:rolleyes:
Loves my chest at night but will sleep in her own bed during the day??? WTF!

I have done this before BUT obviously every child is different ;) We can get through it together ladies!

Lj- There is lots of things that can be done about your poor nipples ;) Go to the chemist and have a chat :)

:hug: again LJ, my nipples were SOO bad, both were so cracked and at one point when i took DD off one boob i was actually dripping blood :( i was in tears almost everytime i fed. i also manages to get an infection in my breasts which was also horribly painful :( i totally understand where your coming from and that alone can make you feel like you arent coping, i cried for almosta week stright :( i went out and got some nipple sheilds, the BEST thing i could have done, it took a couple of days and lots of lansinoh cream and plenty of walking around with my boobies out but they got so much better, i cant express coz we cant afford a pump so i couldnt do it that way, thats the problemw ith them feeding, your boobies dont get a chance to heal. mine are still sore and alittle cracked but no where near as bad as they were,
im finding that when DD falls asleep on my chest during the day when i put her done she's awake 10-15 mins later, not every time but most times. its a little frustrating, im going to have to invest in sling coz i cant get anything done :(
In saying that, i feel so lazy,and to top it off DH has been constatntly having a go at me about how i dont do anything anymore :( it makes me so angry. all ive had time to do is sit on the couch with my boob out, and if im not feeding her or holding her coz she's crackin it, she's asleep and im too exhausted to do anything. i told him he should try getting up 2-3 times a night and then sit up for an hour each time feeding/burping/settling her and see how tired he is. he hasnt been of much help and he cant see why i get mad, he gets angry at me coz he thinks im getting angry at her coz she's crying, truth is im angry at him for not taking her for a min so i can quickly inhale my dinner so i can feed her and get her ready for bed.
he left for work today and as much as i know its going to be a little difficult with him gone, i am so relieved, i finally get some time alone (you know what i mean ;) )
sorry for my whinge, grr.. he's just been getting on my nerves.
i hope everyone else is doing good :)

Husbands can really suck at the best of times. I empathise with you guys on that one!
My DH is generally great, but yesterday he had a few snipes at my lagging housework, and told me off for not having sorted through an old bag of videos!!! Hello? In between breastfeeding, cleaning poo, making toddler meals and trying to have a shower, I dont have time to scratch myself!! I totally agree with you Stevie - they would be absolutely useless if they had to get up 2 or three times for an hour at a time!!
Not to mention their complete disregard at times for the physical demands our bodies are under despite the lack of sleep. I have told DH the milk doesn't just fall from the sky!!! Our bodies are working 24/7 to make that liquid gold and we shouldn't feel guilty for sitting on the couch!!! Add to that the fact that many of us are probably still losing blood. Sometimes husbands need a not so friendly reminder....:rolleyes:

Sore boobies - what a nightmare. I have been fortunate in that department so far......
Maybe try feeding longer off only one breast at a feed, rather than feeding off each breast - and alternate each breast so you are allowing each boobie a bit more 'time off'?
I usually open DS's mouth wider after he has attached with my hands- so that he is not actually touching the nipple - kwim? He is probably wondering what the hell I am doing but it makes life easier for me. Go the breast pads definitely.

Re: the sleeping on the chest thing. If you are at your wits end, just throw a couple of pillows behind you to prop yourself and baby up on a slight angle (better for wind etc) and just close your eyes and allow yourself to pass out like that with bubs on your chest - at least at night. Bubs will start to stir when he/she is ready for a feed and will wake you. If it means you wake up feeling like a human being again in the morning - then its worth it. Then you will have the energy during the day to try to get them better aquainted with their bassinette.

DM my little one is exactly the same! Generally we have no problems sleeping during the day, it's night time when she becomes really unsettled and clingy.

I'll join you all on the hubby rant! Mine was great at first but now he's over the initial excitement he pretty much leaves me to it. So I'm recovering from a c-section, have had cracked nipples, mastitis and now a cold (thanks to his silly mother who came and stayed with us last week when she was sick!! :angry:) the baby wont settle at night and I'm the one who is constantly feeding and trying to resettle her, often up for hours on end. I'm totally sleep deprived and DH, who is still on paternity leave, seems to think that this is a great time for him to do lots of projects around the house. I gave him a hard time earlier and he told me that he doesn't have boobs therefore can't do much and I need to express more if I want him to help!! I explained that expressing isn't always easy, it's very time consuming and after feeding, burping, changing, settling, resettling etc there's bugger all time for me to stick a pump on my boob!! When he does offer to take her off me he usually just plonks her on the couch :doh: Honestly, they just don't realise how demanding it is. Today I have not even had time for a shower and I still need to find time to do my stupid exam....

Ok, rant over I'm going to try and shovel down some dinner before Leila needs me again

Let's hope we all have a good night with babies that sleep soundly and wake infrequently :pray:

Fi x

Bless my MIL!! She brought over a sling for me that she bought.. Oh I owe both her and FIL a great present this year for Christmas! He's sound asleep in it right now, and I couldn't be happier.. We're off to the shops soon, so I'm gonna see if I can pick up the nipple shields from the chemist (is that where you'd find them?) and do some grocery shopping. Honestly, in this past week alone, she's done more for me when we see her (which this week it's been 3 times) than DH has during the nights, every night!

JellyBean - In the regards to DH, mine is like most of yours, though the advantage for me is the fact that he was with me when the dr told him 'She is not to lift anything heavier than DS until the 6 week checkup' so he's been pretty good.. He usually cooks and cleans up, though one day I got up to do the dishes because I was just sick to death of not doing anything (except feeding and changing bum and the rest) and felt hopeless.. Boy did I get a telling off! The thing that s**ts me with my DH though, is that I express my milk (right now I have to with the way my boobs are) and we discussed sharing the feeding duties so I express so he can feed him... I STILL find myself being the one that feeds him, expressed or boob! He also drives me nuts when he says to me 'You know your not pushing that pram very straight' I'd like to see him push the pram straight when you've got a s**tload of people walking in your direction and not moving for you!
That's exactly how I feed him when I do feed.. Today all I've done is express, express, express and given him that.. Not taking my chances until I get to the shops and get those damn shields! The other thing I get frustrated over when DS is feeding is sometimes he'll click his tongue and the nipple will appear near his lip and he'll then suck it back in... When he does that, I KNOW he's not attached properly so then I re-attach him, but then he'll move around so much that it'll happen again.. Oh the frustration!

Kass - Yeah, DS is like that.. Loves sleeping on my chest! Used to love sleeping on DHs chest but since he's been back at work and he's barely gotten to spend time with him (all he does is work, come home and work some more) so now it's my chest he loves snuggling onto.. MOST of the time I can get him into the bassinette no worries, but it's the 2am - 4am 'go back into the bassinette and sleep' put downs that he doesn't wanna sleep in there and just starts crying again.
My MIL suggested and brought over pawpaw cream, so along with the shields, I'm gonna give that a try and if it's not working after a few days, then back to the chemist.

Stevie - Yeah, I was always dreading feeding time (as much as I loved it for the bonding) the first time my right side was cracked because it just hurt too much, and each suck there would be another tear. When I found the dried blood in the shower on my nipple, I shook my head and tried expressing a little bit from it, but it started bleeding again almost straight away.. so I feel for you! I did the crying too :hug:
My DH was so happy when I went into the nesting mode.. but now I'm home and since being home have folded 2 loads of washing and washed 1 load of dishes and thats it - he's getting annoyed. Whenever he snaps about the house looking horrible, I quickly like to remind him that I DID have major surgery and that I have to take it easy.. I hear him then mumble bout 'cant use that excuse forever' but I know he's only worried bout when we have people visiting.

Fi - Hun, my DH is basically the same. He'll hold DS when I ask him to but other than that, if theres a 2am nappy change needed, DH gives me the 'Do you mind, I have to work tomorrow' look and then rolls over. Unfortunately for me, DH only had 7 days of parental leave and used most of them when I was in hospital still, so I'm like you.. Recovering from a c-section and having to do everything. HUGE hugs for you :hug:. Instead of doing things around the house, whenever there's an opportunity to get out the house, he'll take it.. Eg. There were regional finals for poker bout 15 minutes from home on Tuesday and all day he was convinced he wasn't going to go.. 6:40pm rolled around and he says 'I'm off, I'll see you when I get home' - which wasn't till 10:30ish.. Except for the essential 'going to appts and shopping' outings, I've gone out once, and that was yesterday to the Perth BB meetup.. He's been to the casino with an old friend, to poker twice without me and DS, a funeral (but I wouldn't wanna go there anyways) and golfing a couple times too.

Will pop back later now that I have two hands - if not tomorrow cause again DH has lots of work to catch up on online... I hate report time :(

LJ: i think thats why it upset me so much with the BFing, in my head i had there weird misconseption that it was supposed to be easy and natural when in fact its not at all. i wanted so badly to enjoy feeding her and being close to her but i was in tears every time. and to top it off DH was all "it cant be THAT bad!" and getting mad with me for being upset (admittedly he couldnt even talk to me and id burst into tears) after a few days he started to worry that i had PND but thankfully once my boobies started getting better so did my mood lol.
Jellybean: i did what you suggested, as last night i woke up to DD at 12am and she wouldnt go to sleep til about 2-30 -3 , then she woke again at 6.30 i was so tired i just put her on my chest and went back to sleep, thankfully so did she lol. its propbably not something ill do all the time, but it sure helps when ur so tired you cant keep ur eyes open.

Other than the sleep dep, all is well, i got some awesome news yesterday, oneof my best firends is pregnant with number2, im so excited, it totally mademy day hehe.

anyway i hope no one is having a melt down, i cant beleive how fast time is going, it feels like i had her just yesterday, buts she's a month old now.. it all seems so scary,
and i cannot believe i am now a Mum, it still really hasnt sunk in yet, lol.
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Well we had a pretty good night last night... all because we let Leila sleep on her tummy! It's such a funny thing, it seems so taboo these days doesn't it? Even though I know I was slept on my tummy as a baby, as were all of my brothers and it was the done thing back then, I feel quite conflicted about it. Anyway, we all had a good sleep and I actually feel human today! :dance:

Fi: just a question how do you pronounce Leila? Ly-la? or Lee-la?
im so sorry :( im shocking with names.

Id like to try Alissa on her belly but she sleeps really well on her back, maybe if i start having problems ill give it a go!

A question ladies.. anyone using dummies? i brought some while i was prgnant, DH and i hadnt really discussed whether or not we were going to use them or not til she was almost here, i wasnt really keen on the idea coz i know it can be difficult breaking the dummie habit (im sorry but theres nothing worse than seeing a 4yr old with a dumm in their mouth) anyway we decided we wouldnt use them. today DD was being a grizzle bum, she was acting like she was hungry but id put her on and she's fuss about and keep coming off and just being a pain in the bum in general lol. so i thought what they hey, pulled out the dummy and wammo, she loved it. once she eventually spat it out i threw it in the bin, feeling aweful that id gone against what we'd decided, and DH would kill me if he came home to find she was using a dummy. We do ok without it, but theres just some times (in the car, shopping, when im empty) that a dummy would come in handy. Just wanted opinions i guess.

I injured my poor baby for the first time yesterday and felt absolutely terrible. I was getting her out of her bouncer and i was unclipping the clip but it slipped out of my fingers and pinched her little arm, i didnt know what happened, she just started screaming like a crazy person (id never seen her cry like that before.. she was in pain, my poor darling :crying:) then i seen the little pinch marks on her cute little pudgee arm and i almost cried with her, i felt terrible :(

anyway, im off to bath my little darling
hope everyone is getting plenty of sleep
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Another good night for us! I was up every 3-4 hours for feeds but that doesn't bother me, so long as she settles soon after her feed I can handle it. What I can't handle is the hours and hours it was taking me to resettle her. Tummy sleeping really seems to be doing the job for us, Leila must find it so much more comfortable. I've noticed too that she is actually able to bring up wind in that position where as she can't bring it up when on her back so I'm guessing that helps a lot.

Stevie, we pronounce her name 'Layla'. It's funny because before she was born I was tossing up the spelling constantly - I kept saying to DH should we go with 'Layla' or 'Leila'. I really liked Leila but was worried people would not be sure how to pronouce it so almost went with Layla just so everybody would be clear on it. And I was right, so many people are not sure how to pronounce her name.... maybe we should of gone with Layla!!

Hope everyone had a good night :D

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Another good night for us! I was up every 3-4 hours for feeds but that doesn't bother me, so long as she settles soon after her feed I can handle it. What I can't handle is the hours and hours it was taking me to resettle her. Tummy sleeping really seems to be doing the job for us, Leila must find it so much more comfortable. I've noticed too that she is actually able to bring up wind in that position where as she can't bring it up when on her back so I'm guessing that helps a lot.

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Bingo Fi! Its not so much the getting up and feeding, but rather the staying up afterward that kills you!! I'm so glad the tummy is working for you - I was a bit scared to share my 'secret' but after hearing all the sleep deprivation posts I couldn't help but suggest it. It always amuses me when we have had visits to the child health nurse and she is like - "wow - your baby is really strong on his tummy - that's great, you must be giving him adequate tummy time" Lol - I've never had the guts to say why that may be!

I would pronounce Leila as Layla, by the way - and I prefer the spelling that you chose. Leila is very pretty IMO!

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Hi ladies!
Havent had time to read back but want to know if i am welcome here???? :hug:

Can you all let me know when bubs was born too so i can update our list :)

Big kisses and hugs to you all :hug: xxx

of course your welcome here :)

Alissa Williams born 15th of October (by far the happiest day of my life)

Will write again soon, trying to get an early night lol.

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definatly welcome :)

Luke Archer born 23/10/09

Boomba honey OF COURSE YOU ARE WELCOME!! We've missed you! :D

Leila Hazel born 30th October

JB, I'm glad you like the name! Yet another good night for us - little girl just loves being on her tum! Funny because this morning when she woke at 6 I thought, maybe when I put her back down I'll try putting her on her back and she may be fine. I left DH to settle her while I tried to get some more sleep - an hour later DH brought in a screaming little baby who just wouldn't settle! A quick top up feed then down on her tummy and she's one happy girl, sleeping soundly :lol:

fi1980 - Luke is the same has to be on tummy :) we have the angel care monitor so I dont have a problem..

all is going good here first day home alone :) so far doen heaps of washing, Luke was up at 5.30am though and stayed up for 3 hrs so was a little hard having to take him to line etc, as it was sunny and hot out but I soughted it out :) jack woke at 8am so...now to wash up, go for walk to PO and come home do floors unpack from our time away.. then strip and remake bed.. then am done for the day neeed to get my foot up blasted fluid retention :(

Rach I was looking at those monitors online yesterday - would you really recommend one? I was worried I was being too paranoid about it all but hey if it is reliable and gives me peace of mind then it may just be worth it as I find sometimes even though Leila sleeps well I'm a little restless constantly listening out to hear her breathing! During her day sleeps I tend to go in and check on her too - just to make sure she is ok! There seems to be 2 on the market that are worth getting, the angelare and babysense and I'm unsure which would be better. Would love to know your thoughts / comments. Thanks

with jack we had the old analogue one pad version stopped using it in jan this year when he went into bed

we bought the new digital one for luke jase wanted it :lol: so definatly worth the $$$ especially if tummy sleeping ... i think they are the bee's knees :)

Hi Mums!

I have just caught up after being MIA with bub for the past few days....

Seems like some of you ladies are having a horrible time with BF and sleeping.

I don't want to gloat but my bub has been exceptionally good... sleeps in 5-6 hour blocks during the night (wakes once for a feed then back to sleep within 30 mins). During the day he has a couple of naps also (usually about 1-2 hours at a time).

I just wanted to post up for Fi - i have the Angelcare monitor, i think it is AC 401.... it is fantastic and i have had no problems with it so far. I don't have bub in a basinette atm, he went straight into his cot which is at the other end of the house so monitors were a must for us to hear him at night... we figured if we were going to get them we would get the sensors as well and they are great (the alarms have only gone off when i have picked up bub and forgotten to turn off the monitor so have been reliable also).

got to go sorry but will be back for more personals soon!

Look after yourselves and forget about the housework!

Hi ladies,
well im just comming in for more of a vent than anything else.
DH and i are having quite a few problems, even tho he is 5 hours away we still manage to argue like crazy :shakehead:
anyway, this morning he was being particularly nasty to me and i told him if it wasnt for Alissa i wouldnt be with him :( he told me "thats all i needed to know" and hung up and then he text me telling me that us having a baby was ahuge mistake and if i think im getting any of his things i better think again.
i dont want **** from him.
I text him back saying that, and also saying that i wasnt going anywhere coz he's already told me im not aloud to take Alissa from him. Im so stuck i dont know what to do. I love him with all my heart, but he's so controlling and sometimes so nasty that i dont even know why i fell in love with him in the first place.
No one needs to reply to this, coz i know what your all going to say, the same thing that everyone else has already said to me.
I just needed to get this off my chest.
I hope everyone is having a better day than i am lol.

Back later for personals:)

Just popping in to add Lucy Jeanne 17th October 12:44am to the list ;)

:comfort: Stevie having a new baby can put a lot of strain on a relationship I hope you can work things out if not he can't stop you going and take bub with you :hug:

Stevie, huge hugs hun.. I'm not going to say anything except for - wait for it - I know how you feel.. DH last night AGAIN used the excuse of 'but I have to go to work' and all I said was 'Ah yeah, keep using that excuse'
I honestly sometimes want to just shove a sock down his throat (or worse) and give him a kick up the butt and say 'If your not gonna help out, just leave us alone'

Amber - Of course your welcome - Adding William to the list.. William Robert, born 21st Oct @ 6:56am

Will be back later - spending the day with MIL - looking forward to it too, especially with how down I've been feeling

Oh Stevie :comfort: I don't think anyone can prepare you for having a baby. Not only is it a huge shock to your system but it also puts HEAPS of strain on your relationships. Raising a baby on your own is really hard work and it sounds like that is pretty much what you are doing with your DH away so often. I'm not at all surprised that you guys are having a few issues but try not to let them get you down or become too destructive. You both really need each other right now and Alissa needs you too so try to hang in there and be patient with each other. It's normal for things to be a bit crazy right now but I'm sure they will settle down soon.

Rach & Tammie thanks heaps for your advice, I just went out and got myself an Angelcare monitor!! Now we can all sleep a little more soundly.

Ok girls I have some super exciting news to share with you.... I have just handed in my last every uni assessment item!! I've been studying for my business degree part time while working full time for the past 4 years - squeezing in summer school subjects to try and get things out of the way as quickly as possible. It has been a long hard slog but now I can relax! I know I have already passed the subject so anything I get for this last assessment is pretty much just bonus marks :dance: So I now have a bachelor of business degree with a double major in management and IR/HR . Yay me!! :clap: Sorry - just so excited for myself. If any of you had tried to balance full time work with study you'll understand exactly where I'm coming from.

I'm exhausted now - time to have a rest while Leila is sleeping ;)

Fi

Fi :clap: well done on your degree :) and :dance: for monitor

AFM: OMG I am ready to drop... Luke woke at 5.30am didn't go back to bed till 8.30am which by then Jack was awake 8am, so I have been awake since 5.30am Jack and I used to sleep in I would get up around 8am him around 9am *yawn* 5.30am does not work for me *yawn* *yawn*

an to add to it I have terrible fluid retention in my feet and legs mainly my right foot it is so painful :cry:

fi congrats on the degree :clap: so exciting :)

Rach you poor thing :( i had bad fluid in my feet when i was pregnant.. it suced big time :(

Thanks for the hugs for before ladies :) its good to have somewhere i can go and vent and not be judged or have DH be judged coz its not easy.
But tonight he called me and told me that he called a helpline (i was shocked too) just because he can see what his actions are doing to me and he wants to fix it for me but mainly for Alissa. I just love my DH so much, it makes it so hard when he's always in a bad mood, and when he's so controlling over money, Im not even allowed to see my own Mum :( but seriously the Mum thing is another issue altogether.
Goodnight my ladies
kisses to bubs xxx

Ok ladies this was my Saturday.
We were meant to stay at my cousins house in Melbourne....
After a great morning at the aquarium (a treat for Annabelle being so good with Lucy) we then go to the new DFO in South Warf. After spending ALOT of money on both the aquarium and DFO we get to the car and cant find the key to start the car, it had broken off the rest of the keys a few weeks beforehand.
After looking everywhere, we figure we need another plan and cant be in this car park any longer with 2 babies!
So 4hrs have past full of sitting in the car park calling locksmiths. I then called mum and she did the same for me from her net. She found someone to do the key for $450:o As the key is computers, forcentral locking! Then both Dps phone and mine went flat! Thank god mum organised then man to come to us.
We waited till 8pm still no man :( So we decide to go stay at the Hilton which was next door:p
So that cost us $500 too!!!!!
The man showed up in the end and fixed it for me. But I have now noticed he has recked my car door, its dropped a little and is making a clunking noise:rolleyes:
I wake in the morning and low and behold, theres the damn KEY!!!!! I must have got stuck inside a nappy in my bag, so when we looked in my bag we should have shaken the nappies not lift them!!!!!!
Fi- WOW! You must be very proud :) Well done.

Rach- Are you taking anything for the fluid?

Boomba- Welcome! Glad to see you in here :)

Tammie- You lucky lady what a great sleeper you have there!!

Well ladies Lucy is great BUT she's having alot of saw bellies :( During the night the worst! Last night I was so tired, I feel terrible as I got mad at her :( I was still kind of asleep and I was like, "What! What do you want" Then came the "I cant do this!"
haha silly woman I am! I have heard of silent reflux, can anyone tell me the symptoms???

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Hi ladies,
well im just comming in for more of a vent than anything else.
DH and i are having quite a few problems, even tho he is 5 hours away we still manage to argue like crazy :shakehead:
anyway, this morning he was being particularly nasty to me and i told him if it wasnt for Alissa i wouldnt be with him :( he told me "thats all i needed to know" and hung up and then he text me telling me that us having a baby was ahuge mistake and if i think im getting any of his things i better think again.
i dont want **** from him.
I text him back saying that, and also saying that i wasnt going anywhere coz he's already told me im not aloud to take Alissa from him. Im so stuck i dont know what to do. I love him with all my heart, but he's so controlling and sometimes so nasty that i dont even know why i fell in love with him in the first place.
No one needs to reply to this, coz i know what your all going to say, the same thing that everyone else has already said to me.
I just needed to get this off my chest.
I hope everyone is having a better day than i am lol.

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Fi- This is normal. I know crazy but very normal ;) Having a baby takes time to settle and being so far away from each other prob isn't helping. So you need to put that extra effort in ;)
Its great hes called soemone about it. This proves he loves you and Alissa and is trying to fix the problems :)
We all say things we dont mean, other then some stupid things he said, sounds like you have a good man.
The controlling part of it, I dont know enough about your situation to give advice. Hang in there.

kass : oh dear over key as for silent reflux i have no advice, we had few days where Luke was very unsettled but they coincided with when it was quite breezy outside and we had been out in the wind as such..could that be happening with Lucy :hug: we all get cross when we can't make them stop crying and the lack of sleep doesn't help matter

stevie : glad hubby has realised he may need to get help, :hug: we are always here if ya need to vent, talk etc

AFM : I got some hiruoid cream someone on BB suggested it feet look so much better today still a little puffy but not sore :)

we had a fairly good night luke in bed by 10pm woke at 2am and 4.50am for feeds he did wake at 7am but i brought him into bed with me and jack joined us at 7.45am we all slep till 8.15am i know jack and i would have slept longer but cranky pants luke wanted a feed ;) so much better than him waking at 5.30am for the day yesterday and not going back down till 8.30am by which jack was up I was cranky tired mummy by bedtime last night also was first day alone jase has gone back to work and I think I overdid it with the washing :doh: so today will fold washing and unpack from last week and thats it

Hi Ladies.

Boomba - good to see you in here!! Jasper Leo - born 24th of Oct, at 6:00pm (7 pound 15 oz).

Fi - Congrats on completing your last uni assignment ever - what a great feeling that is!! Amazing job managing that with a newborn :clap:

Stevie - Feel free to vent hon. I agree with what the others have said - having a baby puts strain on the best of relationships, so its understandable that if you have some issues, they will come to the forefront now. You are in the most difficult stage at the moment, so I think things will get better for both of you (lack of sleep can make the best of us short-tempered!!). As Alissa grows she will also add a different dimension to your relationship. At the moment she is just taking from the two of you (sleep, milk, sanity - lol), but there will soon come a day when the 2 of you will lose count of the amount of times she has made you laugh in a single day. Hang in there. It will be easier to address problems in your marriage when you are not giving so much of your time and energy to the little one.

Dedicated Mummy - I'm not familiar with silent reflux, but DS1 had reflux (and wind/colic) quite bad. We found the most effective treatment to be chiropractic care. Various studies have found digestive issues in newborns to be muscular-skeletal based rather than gastro-intestinal based.
Jasper's wind has not been as bad, but after 2 chiro appointments there has been a major improvement in his digestion. The chiro also treated him for his blocked tear duct which has also been eliminated naturally (quite amazing). I highly recommend this method of treatment based on my personal experience - there are no side effects like there are with reflux drugs etc.

Tammie - half your luck hon!! 5-6 hour stretches at night - ENJOY is all I can say!! :lol:

Rach - sounds like you are doing pretty well to keep up with the washing with 2 littlies. My house is looking rather hideous at the moment :redface:

LJ - hope your day out with the MIL went well. Sometimes getting out and about is the best thing for us - even when all we feel like doing is crawling into a hole!!

Mummy strength to everyone!!

XX

Stevie I'm so glad DH has realised that his behaviour is hurting all of you and is getting some help, that is such a wonderful, positive step. It shows just how much he really cares about you and Alissa.

DM - OMG about the keys and crazy expenses you incurred! I'm not too sure about silent reflux but interestingly I had a visit from the local health nurse this morning and she said that a lot of babies are misdiagnosed with wind/colic/reflux when they cry during the night and do all the things typically associated with these conditions - she said the majority of the time they are in fact just overtired. Not sure if this is the case or not but thought I'd mention it as something to consider anyway as I was very surprised when she told me.

JB I'm with you on the chiro thing. I haven't actually taken Leila yet but I am thinking about it. It's amazing what chiro's can do. A few years ago I used to get tonsilitis all the time and almost had to have them out when by chance I was at an expo thing and they had chiro's there talking about all the things that could be fixed with their treatment. So I started seeing a chiro in the hope of helping with my tonsilitis (never thought this would help & never understood how adjusting your back could fix something in your throat!) but I have never had tonsilitis since! Also during late pregnancy I was having terrible back problems so went to the chiro and was completely fixed in no time. It's amazing how they can realign your whole body and put everything back into balance.

AFM all going well. Another pretty good night for us. Leila is sleeping peacefully at the moment and I am so chilled now that I have my anglecare monitor - I haven't been in to check on her once!! The nurse this morning said that Leila was just gorgeous, that I'm doing fabulously as a mother and genearlly everything is just perfect - really good weight gain & growth and she said she just looks like a really happy, relaxed baby etc. So I feel great knowing that my little girl is doing so well plus the recognition that I'm doing so well as a mother was nice too as it is not always easy - in fact it's really tough at times, as we all know!

Hmmm, now that I've finished uni and have a baby that sleeps well I don't really know what to do with myself! Cleaning.... nah!! That can wait :lol:

Fi

Jellybean- I have always been against chiro, until I found an amazing man who fixed my back. First he had a massive convo with me about all my fears. Best thing was he agreed with what I was saying and showed me his take on chiro work. Extremly different to many others. I spoke to him about newborn care and he convinced me of its amazing results ;) Im very much against drugs and toxins unless last resort so I might give him a bell.

Fi- Totally get where your health nurse is coming from. When Annabelle was a baby I was told by mum etc to keep burping as she 'had wind'. I called the health nurse line, one really bad night. She told me Annabelle was being over stimulated by me trying to burp her for so long and she was over tired ;)
Having said that, Lucy is different, it really seems like something else :(

Rach- Sounds like my house having the bigger one jump into bed with me :) I love cuddling my girls in bed.
Sounds like Luke is settling down a little hopefully he keeps it up!

So how is everyones feeding going?

I am going to go mental today, did so well yesterday..then had nice sleep in with the boys and it all went down hill from there, Luke has only just gone down he has been awake since just after 8.15am he has dozed off a couple of times but maybe 10min max :( Jack has been driving me batty he is bored and out of soughts because he can't have all my attention ... and we are housebound as I can't drive till I see OB :crying:

I seriosuly have done nothing today except wash bottles and that had to be done as I was running out, luke screamed while I was doing this but had no choice had to be done..I haven't managed to have a shower and giving Luke 5min if he is still sleeping then I will shower I to fold the washing and unpack it has to be done... floors can wait till tomorrow though...

also am stressing as I can't seem to get any milk when i pump was doing real well up till yesterday, was getting on average 75mls from both bb's up till sat, then I didn't pump as much on sun due to only hvaing the manual, pumped sun night got 120ml... picked up pump yesterday finally managed o pump in the arvie got 50ml in 10min :dance: since then though I have pumped 6 times and bairly managed to get anything the most I got was 10ml from both bb's I am drinking heaps of water probably not eating as much but is hard with luke wanting to be cuddled.. I feel like I am failing everythingn was going so well and all of a sudden its gone downhill :(

Hi girls just popping in quickly with the list will be back later let me know if its right please xxxx



01/09/09 Bloominroses Seth John Jamie
09/09/09 Jenc77 Hamish Charles and Lachlan Edward
06/10/09 Rach221 EVANGELINE LILLI
15/10/09Mzy Jessica Alice
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17/10/09 Dedicated-mummy Lucy Jeanne
21/10/09 Lizjessie William robert
23/10/09 Rach75 Luke Archer
24/10/09 Jellybean Jasper Leo
29/10/09 Tammie Eli James
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03/11/09 Boomba Flynn Douglas
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look at all those beautiful names :)

Awww little CJ and I really were last :D