Babies Born October 1st ~ 15th 2008 #2

[SamiH]

Belfie - see, you jinxed him by saying in a previous post that Xander was cruisey They all have bad and unsettled days just like us - we have aches and headaches and feel tired, so do they, they just can't tell us what is wrong yet. How nice of your neighbor to come in and help - and big claps to you for continuing to express, hard work with having to feed as well! How is he today?

Georgi - yeah I am a bit hit and miss after 4pm - usually I try and rock him in the rocker to sleep at the moment cos when DH is away I can't keep going to his room trying to shhh shhh him to sleep etc and still do homework, readers, cook tea etc I put him in the rocker and use my foot whilst doing stuff with the other kids .... it is bedlam but I know it will get easier So yeah that is why he gets soooo tired by 6.30 - cos he has only had a little sleep, but he doesn't really cry that much so that is good as I would get edgy too with the other kids ... but I shouldn't be too hard on him, he is only 2 months old after all. Last night he fed at 7pm and woke around 1am - thought I would try and give him dummy (he spits it out when he is going to deep sleep) - and he took it and stretched out to 2.30am - but wasn't game to try dummy again cos he is still so little so fed him - but he was snorting like a pig looking for it so he must of been really hungry !!

PP - Yeah, sometimes we have to let them have a little cry cos our other kids need some attention too. My DD has wet her pants a few times lately and I think it is attention so I am more mindful of giving her some one-on-one time too. Poor little darling. Glad to hear your DD is probably on the mend and getting the rest she deserves, but we need to talk to your little man about this 1.5 hours to resettle after a night time feed !!!

Well I have had a shower today, and been to post some mail and get some groceries - that is all I expect of myself today! I promised the kids Maccas with DH away so am not gunna stress about dinner either.

Gotta resettle the boy ...

[AmandaJ]

PP hopefully Ethan and Ashley are on the mend, it's good that Ash had a spew free night. Sounds like Ethan's sleeping is getting a bit better fingers crossed.

Sami Julian is in the same sleep pattern as Z, so no much I can suggest maybe just go with the flow and see weather he will change as he gets older.

Belfie sorry to hear about all the troubles with the pump, did you end up getting thepump yesterday?

Kuraiza I had very mild PND with my first, I didn't think it was that bad, but obviously it was as I was crying nearly everyday, but like you I didn't regret having Kailen, I loved him. I think it was just the stress of been a new mum and not use to been home 24/7 and all the pressure of trying to know what's wrong with the bub. It took me until 6mths to get help and that was only after my BF from Sydney was talking to me on the phone and picked up that I wasn't my usual self. So I that your appointment with the psych goes well next week, even if you don't have PND, it will be good for you to get all your worries/stresses out to them.

Morning and hello to Georgi, It'sme, Hollye, Tan and Amy, I hope all bubbas are going to be good for their mummy's today.

Well Julian is 6weeks today, I think that he went through his growth spurt a bit early as he's gone back to sleeping better at night again. He's having his last feed at about 6:30-7pm and sleeping until 2-2:30am then wakes again between 5:30-6:30am, which is good because then he's all feed and ready for school drop off.

Ok this has taken nearly half an hour to write so will be off.

hugs xoxo

[[M]umma[M]ia]

hrmmm

Mia has been unsettled for days. She wont finish her bottle, she wont sleep and all she does is cry coz shes hungry and tired. pulling my hair out here!

no im not in brissy and wont be till sometime next year :P

[SunnyRain]

Sami: My 1st full day out of hospital I had to see the GP because I had mastitis and he said I was high risk for PND because I have no support and I should keep an eye on myself because no one else can. At the health centre the nurse asked the questions and I said "yes to all of the above" but she didn't seem bothered by it, so I figured it was up to me to decide if/when I needed some extra help.

Well husband's back at work so that, of course, means Jude's back to not sleeping all day. Why does he nearly fall asleep when I am trying to settle him and then his eyes shoot wide open and he gets upset? And how many hours a day am I supposed to rock him/ sing lullabies/ stroke his head/ swing him in my arms/ walk around the house?

[1MOREPLZ]

kuraiza..hun i am right there with ya!!!!!
i was yesturday about to rip my hair out...by last night i was a blubbering mess.. and was NOT about to have NO sleep at all last night...so Jack is back co-sleeping at night...he slept from 1opm last night till 6am
this morning he fed at 10 and slept til around 12.40ish..was resettled twice in that time and EVERY time i heard him on the monitor i went in and put my hand on him and he settled (didn't wake was just stirring) he fed around 1 and i have just put him down in his cot for a sleep.
I have just today resorted back to 3hourly feeds during the day...last feed at night around 10...so we shall see how things go...
i even rang Karitane yesturday..for some help.. and ende up in a blubbering mess on the phone with them...

[amy_o]

Well at the risk of jinxing myself for the rest of the day things have been pretty good so far!! We had to head in to the city for the Post Natal diabeties thingy, cause of the GD. Basically it was an hour of now you have had GD you are at risk for type 2, so make life style changes. Lots of scary stats. Bethany fussed the WHOLE time so I guess she wasn't too keen on the stats either. Thankfully she settled to sleep in her pram for me to go to the shops have some lunch pick up a few things and know she is in her cot snoozing in the air con! She has upped her feeds big time the pass few days, the can says that at 8 weeks you can start giving 180mls. I have been offering a bit more each feed cause 120 to 180 seems a huge jump!! The last few though she has done the whole 180. Piggy. I have noticed though that with the self settling now she sleeps deeper so is more awake at playtime and hence more active maybe it all ties in??

Kuraiza~~ I hope the visit with the psych helps. I have weekly psych visits because I am high risk of PND, I have a pre exsitsing mental illness, BiPolar. I had a pretty big bout of Antenatal depression but things are pretty good so far, but I have my bad days!! Who doesn't? I guess I just have to watch myself closer because of the bipolar, an episode can last months and that is not a good thing with a baby! I have found this to be sooooooooo helpful though, when I feel overwhelmed I just log on and see that there are atleast 3 other women feeling the same thing at the same time!! Anyway I meant to encourage you but ended up talking about me. So I'll send you a

Well I have typed this and Bethany is still asleep so on to the washing up!

[1MOREPLZ]

Amy_o... i have to book in for my 6-8 weeks post baby GD test too... just have to pull my finger out...

touch wood.. jack has been great so-far today!!! and i think it was going back to 3hourly feeds.. i will slowly stretch them out and get him sleeping longer..well thats my plan!!! he is laying on the floor as i type looking at the tv

[[M]umma[M]ia]

whoa watta day!

Mia's oral thrush doesnt seem to be going away which means shes not sucking. She will down about max 50mls in her bottle and its just too sore to suck anymore. So off to the chemist i went. Got some more Nilstat and some baby panadol. Just gave her a dose of panadol and shes sound asleep and sucking on her dummY! she wasnt sucking on thaat either coz of the pain. Poor little munchkin. So it has been a rough couple of days. I went and got some heinz nurture formula too so ill give that a go.. was only $18 and after i brought it i seen it at big w for $12.. oh that always happens. The BFing seems to be phasing out. Frankly with all her other issues atm i just dont have time! We will see how it goes. Mum wants me to try the NAN formula but i can only find it in the GOLD variety, does it come in a normal one??????

anyway off to have a veg in front of the telly.. or not.. shes awake again.. ho hum

[PinkPalace]

hollye
i am not sure if it comes in anything other than gold?

Ashley is now on the amcal brand of formula - well until this tin is finished then it will be straight cows milk.

katones - i would let bub feed more frequently during the day so he will be full by night time otherwise he may get into a 4 hrly feed cycle and will wake for those over night?

[1MOREPLZ]

whoa watta day!

Mum wants me to try the NAN formula but i can only find it in the GOLD variety, does it come in a normal one??????

NOPE it only comes in the GOLD... that is what we are using.. our Paed said if formula is the way to go that is about the closest to breast milk with all the added pro-biotics etc in it....

PP Jack is taking 120mls per feed... i have put him on 3hrly during the day and we are back to co-sleeping at night for now... and when he co-sleeps he sleeps from 10pm-6am

[amy_o]

Just in case you wanted to know I was a NAN raised baby, can't tell you what it tasted like though or if it was good....don't remember!! LOL Bethany is on S26 just cause that is what was being used in SCBU when she was in so I figured we would stick to what she already knew.
I just put some christmas things up!! I feel almost festive....almost. Got a sweet christmas outfit for Bethany, just need to find the strength to face the day with the in laws.........

[CathieW]

Itsme - Dh and myself don't go out often but when we do I don't rush I just take my time and when Iwe get there we get there. With twins you can never be sure what time your going to get to your friends place ect.

I went shopping for the first time by myself last week with the twins and lily. They were fine in the shopping centre as I feed them before I left But on the way home Sam cried and cried.

cathie

[SamiH]

Kuraiza - so glad it was addressed, but sad for you that the clinic didn't follow-up considering they put you in the high risk category! I do understand about having no support - we moved here when DS1 was 6 weeks old then DH went to Iraq after a week for 3 months! My saviour was mothers group - and I am still close to 5 of the original starters! I hope you find the support I did when your group starts

Hollye - Mia and Zander must be so opposite! You wrote that you just don?t have the time with everything else to b/f - I don't have the time not to! Zander only takes 10 - 15 minutes to feed (I have tried everything to see if he will take more- nup he just closes up shop and hops off the boob!) - so if I had to do bottles with sterilizing etc I would be more time poor than I am now. I am attracted to bottles though for a selfish reason - so I can see how much he takes cos I have no idea and still doubt he gets enough ? but he is a happy enough little fella so must be ok ?

Katones - quick question which is gunna sound reeeeeally ignorant and dumb - don't you kinda demand feed when FF? You wrote Jack is on 3 hourly feeds and you are trying to stretch them out so I was just wondering ? I haven't FF fully a bub under 6 months so don't know.

Amanda - yeah I think I will justhave to go with the flow. Zander doesn't get upset very much so I don't really wanna rock that boat and throw everything into chaos!

Georgi - I settled him in his cot at 5pm tonight for a catnap - which he did for 30 mins, he fed when he got up, and I just fed him (top-up really) at 7pm which he took more than normally and put him down 10 mins ago - however I would still prefer a 3am wakeup to a 5am for me cos if I get up and feed at 5am - means back to bed around 5.30ish but by the time I get to sleep time for me to get up - unless it is the weekend and DH can get up with the kids Oh to sleep in .............

PP - hope the kids are feeling better and the bug has left the house!

[Moi]

Hi all.. I had to disrupt Maya's morning nap to go for my 6 week check up and after that I had mothers group. So she's now a very over tired girl, but won't go to sleep. My DH has taken over trying to settle her to sleep! I wish she'd sleep when out and about! It would make my life easier.

Anyway, my check up went well. Everything is healing nicely. And I love having the mothers group to go to every Wednesday. It gets me out of the house and I get to talk to adults and see other babies. One woman today said her baby will only sleep for 1hour maximum at a time and he's now 12 weeks old, so she hasn't slept for longer than 1 hour at a time for 12 weeks! It put things into perspective for me!

belfie - We should swap phone numbers so we can call each other and cry on the phone to each other when things are tough! That's great your neighbour was there to help. I don't have anyone near by who can help me.

kuraiza - That's great that you asked for help and got it. I think a lot of mothers don't speak up and ask for help when they need it and things just get worse. You're definitely not alone in your feelings. I feel very alone too and my family is in Melbourne as well as me!

Sami - I know what it feels like to watch someone else have everything done for them! I actually like my ILs, which I know is unusual. But I am so jealous of my SIL cos my MIL is round at her place every chance she gets and does all my SILs housework and looks after the kids while my SIL sits around. Then my SIL complains about how hard looking after her kids is!

Georgi - Good to hear Byron is doing well again.

Amanda -

I think it was just the stress of been a new mum and not use to been home 24/7 and all the pressure of trying to know what's wrong with the bub.

You basically summed up how I feel!

Hollye - Hope Mia is doing better now!

Katones - Hope you are feeling better.

Cathie - Yeah I find it hard enough getting out with one baby. I can't imagine how hard it'd be with two!

To everyone else: Hello! Sorry that's all I can manage for today. *sigh* Maya's still crying and not sleeping!! It's so frustrating because I know she must be so exhausted!! Yet she won't sleep.

[[M]umma[M]ia]

even tho mia is 80% on formula she is still demand feeding. she can have a feed and want more an hour later. So i dont think formula makes a difference in that area.

Mia is feeling a little better.. she had a good 5 hour sleep after i gave her some panadol, which im so happy about coz she was soooooooo overtired. Shes up now but seems so much happier. And she had a huge poo! one of them big explosive ones!

When we went to get all the goodies today to make Mia feel better we went for a big walk. I so need to lose about 50 kilos!!!

I cant wait for the mothers group to start in january.. i feel so alone.

[kylieb77]

Hollye - My mothers group starts in January as well and there is also a local playgroup that is at the same place we go to see the MCHN. I can't wait to get out and meet some mums and bubs from around here. Most of my friends live about 40mins away and don't come to visit very often. So I understand when you say how lonely it is.

PP - how are the kidlets going?

[PinkPalace]

hi girls!

yes Ashley still has a little of the runs last night... nothing this morning.... fingers crossed
Ethan is tired (from being up all night no wonder!!!).

MOthers groups are great - especially for those with bubs the same age!

[Moi]

Hollye - It's amazing how much happier babies are after a good sleep! I just wish it was easier to get them to sleep when they need it!

Well I'm already having a bad day. Last night we finally got Maya to go to sleep around 8.30pm. Then she woke at 10.30pm, 2am and 6am. Normally she goes back down for a sleep in the morning, but she didn't want to sleep, so I figured that she needed some play time. But she kept crying no matter what I did! I finally fed her again at 8.30am. Normally by that time I've done two feeds not three! Then she was yawning heaps so I tried putting her down for a sleep and I kept having to go to her every few minutes!

I don't know how any of you manage to settle your babies in their beds! If I try and settle her in bed she just gets louder and louder! So I always have to pick her up and walk around for ages till she goes back to sleep!

And I find it so hard when she's crying a lot. I start to question everything - is she hungry again? Is she over tired? Does she need play time? Should I persist with trying to put her to bed or play with her or feed her?! I often wonder if I'm doing the wrong thing and that's why it's a battle to get her to sleep!

Ah she's awake again.. gotta go. Hope everyone else is having better days so far!