DB- i havent been able to express as well as feed her at the same time. I have enough supply for her no worries, but dont get more the 10-20ml after a feed expressing.
Maybe i should just keep trying and add the 10-20ml together over 24hrs and freeze. may take me a few days but i could get together one feed at least. But even then I dont want to miss a feed because It may affect my supply this early on.
Beatrix we're having the same struggles here Georgia doesn't go more than 2 hrs between feeds which means maybe 1 hr sleep n a row if you're lucky. We also have had the rumbles in the tummy along with screaming for a couple of hours a lot of evenings/nights. Georgia does poo several times a day but yesterday I noticed she seemed to be struggling to poo. I took her nappy off and laid her on the floor for a while and after a few minutes she pooed. The other night after 2 1/2 hours of crying she finally slept about 2 hours then woke and pooed followed by loads of wind exiting exiting the bottom exit too. I too am starting to wonder if it is something I'm eating, although we had a couple of days of calm and I really don't vary my diet that much each day so IDK I am an absolute zombie and quickly getting frustrated. I'm thinking of starting to express, but that is stressing me too because I am a crap expresser and it takes ages to get a decent amount. It will be worse this time as I gave my sisters electric pump back and she's using it so I only have my hand one which isn't as efficient. Formula also crossed my mind a few times the last few nights, but I am resisting and hoping things will improve soon I really need some sleep I have no idea how you're doing it with having to get the other kids organised to school and sport etc You're doing s great job!!
Willow- as horrible as this sounds, Im kinda glad its not just me. if that makes any sense? Like i feel like i'm doing something wrong but since your gorgeous little one is having the same issues, then it relives me to know its not just me. I'm really sorry your having to deal with it too, its heart breaking seeing you bubba so distressed, when you can't seem to do anything to settle her. Im not coping very well and am so short tempered with the other kids. DD3 loves Zoe so much she is constantly in her face when I am trying to feed or have just settled her and its driving me mental, I have snapped a few times at her. Luckily i only have to do drop off in the morning as DH is home in time to do pick up and he tries so hard to help but even he is getting snapped at and I feel so horrible.
Normally i would jump in the car and go for drive, but the weather atm is wet and miserable and driving in the middle of the night in those conditions isn't the best idea so I wont. ATM Zoe has been asleep since 8am (now 11am) she feel asleep in the capsule in the car and i haven even unstrapped her, just brought her inside and put her at my feet. So she is still sleeping! Hasn't feed since 6:30 am too.. so almost 5 hrs. Stupid me should have slept as well as all other kids at school or kindy but i have so much to do around the house that I didnt and now its done, no point going to sleep as she will wake soon.
The other thing with sleeping when they sleep is when you think they won't sleep long it's not worth it, and you never know when they'll do a longer stint! Georgia slept 3 1/2 hours yesterday (I had to hold her though) but I had no idea she'd sleep that long so didn't sleep myself. If you do lie down to sleep and they wake after 30mins I think you feel worse.
DS3 here is exactly the same loooves her to bits, is all over her and me and right in her face kissing talking cuddling, but when she's not happy and I'm tired and stressed it is just so annoying I have been snapping too, sleep deprivation is just horrible you can't get your brain to work properly and emotions are hard to control.
Georgia doesn't like to be put down to sleep either I just put her down before to try do a few things, she was in a heavy sleep after fighting it for 45 minutes and she lasted 20 in her bed I have 3 different kinds of dummies here and she won't take any of them, swaddling doesn't help she fights to get her arms out and gets cranky (all mine have done that) She doesn't really comfort suck on me a lot either, it's like she hasn't worked out what her thing is yet, and I can't work it out either. Oh and she hates the car too, screams the whole time, so we can't win anywhere
I put her in the Ergo the other day and she slept about 2 hours while I got a bit done then woke I managed to feed her in there and she slept again another hour and a half after but it's hard to go to the toilet get the washing out and a few other things, I'm short which doesn't help either. DS3 is finding the limited, next to none really, one on one time with me hard too I feel like I miss him because of it even though he's still here, weird I know.
Beatrix/Willow- DD1 was like that..exactly how you are describing!! I feel for you both!! I have discovered that there are a few things that bother Eleni that I eat.....
garlic
orange juice
onions
cabbage/coleslaw
chili (in large amounts, yes I like it)
apparently these are all classic foods that can irritate and give gas/wind! Maybe have a think about what you guys are eating...I have heard that a lot of dairy can have an effect as well..
With DD1 I had the same problems...and went the expressing option early on!! Then at 4 months I turned to formula!.... I can't believe I lasted THAT long with her... I was on struggle street bad!... Don't feel bad to go for formula! Your sanity is more important!!
I've been using sleeping bags with her for the last week and I have found she's sleeping MUCH better!... except the last few nights, she's been really unsettled at about 4am when she's decided is poo time!!
We had MCHN today for her 4 week check, she's 4.105kg!! up 600g in 2 weeks!! 52cm and hc 35.5cm! So she's growing well and we are happy with that!!.. At the moment she's in her bed getting cranky with her hiccups! poor little thing!
Harri- im following the 12wbt (Michelle Bridges) program so am recording what i eat. I dont have much dairy as my stomach cant tolerate it, the weirdest thing is Zoe has been much worse since I stopped eating crap like choc and lollies, LOL i know carbonated drinks seem to affect her so have cut that out and while I think of it I did have a few glasses on the weekend so maybe that may contribute? Im clutching at straws.
I REALLY dont want to go onto formula so that is completely last resort, and since its not a hungry thing and my supply is ample I will try everything to address it other ways plus its not guarantee that formula will stop the gas, as it maybe her feeding technique. The MCHN did say when she heard her feeding that i must have a strong let down and she seems to be gulping.
great growing and weight gain for your little one harri!!
Beatrix- I have heard about the carbonated drinks also.. so I'm keeping those to a minimum, although I did have a coke today!! will be interesting to see what happens tonight with that!!
I have 4 different kinds of dummies here also and she wont take any of them, as I know sometimes she likes to comfort suck to get the gas/poo out, and thought if at 4am I could give her the dummy and it would have the same effect it would be better!.. but alas NO!
We have the same issue here with Eleni and especially when she feeds off my left boob... Fast flow, so lots of gulping and she sucks like a maniac!! sometimes she's finished in 5-10min, then she burps... and will have at least three other burps up to an hr after that result in dirty clothes!!! The MCHN today said that that will resolve as she grows bigger!
Zoe is still asleep!! So thats 5hrs of straight sleep and almost 7 since her last feed. i just had to express to relive some pressure and you can see its complete foremilk. really white and see through. Hoping that since I did that when she does wake she wont get that 50ml of foremilk now so wont be as gassy later
WOW..... wouldn't that be awesome at night!!!!???? cheeky monkey! She must be getting a lot of milk in her feeds if 50mls of it is foremilk!..Since the hind milk is the fatty stuff and she's OBVIOUSLY getting that!! I haven't expressed yet a full breast to see how much of each comes out! It's interesting!
Georgia was one month old a few days ago I haven't taken her for another weigh yet, she hates the car so I dread taking her out I might take her to the drop in on Friday afternoon. I know she's growing though, she feels heavier and she's nearly up a size in clothes and the prefold nappies are a stretch to get on her too When you cradle her head you can feel how much bigger it is in your hand too.
We had a good night last night When cranky time came she was unsettled and cried a bit so I thought I'd try a bath to see if it would distract her, which it did! She hated her first few baths but seems to like them now. We are using a bigger deeper one with out the little raised bit on the bottom IYKWIM? So she can float more freely and be more submerged I think that has helped. So after that she cried for a bit and fussed but then slept from about 9pm until just after 1am!!! That's huge for her. She fed and didn't wake again until I think 4.30am then 6.50 so that pretty good going. I hope it continues but not getting my hopes up.
...and there she is again. I put her down to sleep and only got 30mins. Probably should have done something more useful than look at fb and BB then.
Willow- great night!! we had a not too bad one as well. She woke twice i think and settles pretty well afterwards and actually slept in her own bed... funny thing is after her 10pm feed she was fussing so i just put her down in her hammock awake and fussy as i needed a break and laid down, the next time i knew it was 2:30!!
popped to dr this morning as she had been straining to poop and had a tiny tiny streak of blood twice after bowel movement and being bf she shouldnt really be straining, plus the poo was very mucusy. He said prob to much foremilk or intolerance upset her belly and she has a prob anal fissure which will heal. Just have to keep a eye on it and if large amounts of blood go to hosp. But today compared to the last 3 days shes like a whole different baby!! more relaxed, still prefers to b held then put down but def not loud grumbles in tummy or balling up in pain.
Beatrix I've been thinking milk imbalance too some days with us. She was having some frothy poos for a couple of days about a week back, but the colour was still yellow/mustard so not completely typical of too much foremilk. Maybe it was just that little bit too much, enough for froth and pain but not enough to turn green. Or it's something I'm eating, I hope not though. I am so hungry and after not be able to eat, or only eat certain things being so sick when pg, I would cry if I had to do an elimination diet to work it out lol But I will if need be. I did a bit of reading too and I could be as simple as their systems are just getting used to working properly. After being constantly fed through the umbilical cord for so long it can take some bubs longer to get used to digesting milk, so it may just need to be waited out. I guess we'll see what happens over the next couple of weeks.
Glad you got an OK night too
Its nice to see him gaining esp because he is so little; we've had a bad few days and I even cried last night because it was 11pm so I was exhausted and he hadn't settle all day and just fed, fed, fed!!! I thought my milk was drying up or something. Had a little rant about wishing I didnt care so much about breastfeeding blah blah blah then we coslept and he did 4 hours then 3 hours. Has been settled better today thankgod.
That sounds like a growth spurt Freya. Wouldn't have been any different if you were formula feeding, if they are going to be hungry and fussy for growth spurts it makes no difference how they are being fed I haven't tried to put Georgia in her bed for the past week and just co slept, she's been way too unsettled and even an extra half hour sleep between feeds at night is worth it rather than the constant battle of resettling etc
I don't think Wilder is going to stay little for much longer either
Freya- WOW that's awesome weight and length gain!! Trust me it's easier to cluster feed with boobs than with bottle!! If you are ever concerned about milk supply, have yourself a nice cold beer!!... Works wonders on your nerves AND brings the milk on big time! I had one the other day and I was leaking EVERYWHERE that night!
Beatrix-oouchy on the poo... poor baby! hope it sorts itself out!....
Willow- glad you mentioned those things about the milk/poo colours! I didn't know that!! Interesting. i'll be keeping an eye on the poo colours now... I have only seen one green one...!
Eeeew beer! I want to like beer, but I just don't It looks so nice and cold and refreshing in summer, but then I try it and it's just not my thing. I've heard Guinness is really good for milk supply. I don't know why, I guess whatever makes it darker than others might have milk making properties? Don't suppose Bundy and coke(yes I am a bogan from way back ) or a glass of red(or 2) would help? That I could manage, for the good of my milk that is hehe
Georgia doesn't go more than 2 hrs between feeds which means maybe 1 hr sleep n a row if you're lucky. We also have had the rumbles in the tummy along with screaming for a couple of hours a lot of evenings/nights. Georgia does poo several times a day but yesterday I noticed she seemed to be struggling to poo. I took her nappy off and laid her on the floor for a while and after a few minutes she pooed. The other night after 2 1/2 hours of crying she finally slept about 2 hours then woke and pooed followed by loads of wind exiting exiting the bottom exit too. I too am starting to wonder if it is something I'm eating, although we had a couple of days of calm and I really don't vary my diet that much each day so IDK
I am an absolute zombie and quickly getting frustrated. I'm thinking of starting to express, but that is stressing me too because I am a crap expresser and it takes ages to get a decent amount. It will be worse this time as I gave my sisters electric pump back and she's using it so I only have my hand one which isn't as efficient. Formula also crossed my mind a few times the last few nights, but I am resisting and hoping things will improve soon
I really need some sleep I have no idea how you're doing it with having to get the other kids organised to school and sport etc You're doing s great job!!
will be interesting to see what happens tonight with that!! 
I haven't expressed yet a full breast to see how much of each comes out! It's interesting!
When cranky time came she was unsettled and cried a bit so I thought I'd try a bath to see if it would distract her, which it did! She hated her first few baths but seems to like them now. We are using a bigger deeper one with out the little raised bit on the bottom IYKWIM? So she can float more freely and be more submerged I think that has helped. So after that she cried for a bit and fussed but then slept from about 9pm until just after 1am!!! That's huge for her. She fed and didn't wake again until I think 4.30am then 6.50 so that pretty good going. I hope it continues but not getting my hopes up.
I want to like beer, but I just don't 
It looks so nice and cold and refreshing in summer, but then I try it and it's just not my thing. I've heard Guinness is really good for milk supply. I don't know why, I guess whatever makes it darker than others might have milk making properties? Don't suppose Bundy and coke(yes I am a bogan from way back 
) or a glass of red(or 2) would help? That I could manage, for the good of my milk that is 
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