Babies Born ~ July 1st-15th 2009 #2

[Calluna]

Hi lovely ladies,
I'm about to go to bed so I'll be quick, Just thought I'd let you know I've just posted up my birth story for anyone that's interested.

[ss_storm]

Great story Heather!

Just waiting for Hayley to go back to sleep after a feed, she is being pretty quiet so I think she might have gone to sleep straight away. It's the first feed in a week or so that she hasn't screamed during it... I did post a thread earlier about it, but lately she has been crying every time I try and give her a bottle, I don't know why. All she wants is to stick her thumb in her mouth and cries after every 20mls or so of milk. I have been struggling to get 120ml into her, she is having 180ml bottles, but is supposed to be increasing up to 240mls about now. DF thought maybe her gums are hurting her, but i can't feel the tips of any teeth. I put a tiny bit of bonjela on her gums during one feed but it didn't seem to make a difference. I bought a couple of 6 month+ teats yesterday as she is still on size 2 teats, which I think is for about 2-3 months old. Again I don't think they helped, just meant she got more milk faster. WIll go back and get the rest that I need tomorrow, may as well change all her bottles over to the new teats.

well she's still quiet so must have gone to sleep, back to bed for me too!

[Calluna]

ss- Thanks I'd been meaning to do it for ages but never get the time. I feel so good that I've finally done it and loved going through it all in my head remembering the details, There are so many feelings and images in my head that I just could not convey. I just did not have the right words to do it justice.
Sounds a bit like Isaac atm, he'll yell and stiffen up his body and cry. When he does drink its for a few mins if that then the whole thing starts again. Very frustrating, but hopefully it's just a phase. Isaac's taking more and more feeds the past couple of days so I think he's getting better. He still has a little tanty most times but once he gets into the swing of it he stays focused and will feed properly for about 10 or 15 mins.

[jetta2022]

Hi Guys!

SS Storm - hope things are going better with Hayley. I am sorry that I cannot give any advice on why she is screaming. I hope things improve though and big hugs.

Heva5 - hope things are improving for you too? Did you ring or contact the breast feeding association?

Just wanted to ask everyone. We are thinking of giving Sam some rice cereal in about a months time or so. If you are breast feeding, how do you do it? I have been told to not cut out any breast feeds and about 1/2 hour to hour after a feed offer. Does he just over time then eat more and slowely cut out one feed as they will become more spaced out as he is fuller for longer?? Is that the idea? Just trying to get my head around it!!!

Hope everyone else is well!

[Miss E]

Well we went out and got Ash a rainforest jumperoo yesterday and he loves it. Also thanks ladies for telling me about your LO's waking and sleep times... I guess we'll just keep going as we have been, but I can't help but wonder if he does need to stay up a bit longer... On Friday when we went to mothers group he stayed up for four hours and had a great time! But then at home it seems like there is no way I can stretch him any more than a couple of hours... Oh who knows...

Jetta, we're also thinking about starting Ash on rice cereal in the next few weeks. I wouldn't worry too much about feeds etc when you start introducing solids. From what I've been told they take in very little for quite awhile. The first few months you offer solids after the feed. Then at around 8 or 9 months you're supposed to switch it over and start doing solids first and then bf afterwards. I guess they just gradually reduce the amount of milk they take in. But I have also been told that until they are one bm or formula is their main source of nutrition so it is important not to cut back too much on the number of feeds they get.

Heva and Storm I hope your feeding is improving... It's probably really hard not to stress about it but I'm guessing it is probably a developmental thing. You're both wonderful mummy's!

Sarah I know what you mean with the day naps, they can be so hard to figure out. At the moment Ash has between 3 and 4 naps a day. One of the women from my mothers group saw a sleep specialist and she told her that babies of this age 'should' (I hate that word!) only be having 2 naps a day... Apparently they 'should' get up at 7am, go down for a nap at 10am and sleep till 12pm, then have another nap between 2pm and 4pm, then go down for the night at 7pm. Sounds good in theory, but I really can't see it working for us... And then it contradicts the whole feed, play, sleep thing.... Argghhh I hate all this conflicting advice!

Cate I hope little Zac has recovered from his needles, poor little poppet... We're also using the merino kids sleeping bags and they are the best! I love them! Like Jetta said you really only need to buy 2 and they will last you till they're 2. Unlike the other ones you don't need to get summer and winter weights, so they actually work out cheaper. And the merino is so much better cos it is a natural fabric.

[ss_storm]

Miss E- I would be ignoring that sleep advice! No way could Hayley survive on only 2 sleeps a day! She would be mega grumpy by the end of the day and I probably would be too! I couldn't force her to sleep for 2 hours at each sleep either...sometimes she wakes after 45 mins or an hour or an hour and a half etc..it's always different. I figure they know what they need, if they need sleep then they will sleep for as long as they need to, if they aren't tired they'll stay awake for as long as they need to. Makes you wonder if any of these so called 'experts' have had babies of their own and what advice they followed!

feeding was better yesterday, no crying at all. this morning however I have already had to throw out two almost full bottles! She had about 20mls out of each one then refused to have anymore and just resulted in a screaming match. She woke up at 5am and I gave her one then with no problems. She woke up just after 8 and I tried to give her a bottle..threw that one out..then tried at about 9.30 because she kept stuffing her hands in her mouth and looking like she was hungry...threw that one out too..now she is in bed and I hope she wakes up in a better mood and wants some food.

I bought a box of the Heinz organic rice cereal. I don't know what it's like, but I didn't like my choices with the Farex...the one for starting them on had fruit and stuff in it...I just wanted plain Farex but that one apparently had bigger grains in it and was suitable for about 8 months+. Got all the stuff we need, bowls, spoons etc. Just need a sippy cup. Won't be starting her until after christmas I have decided!

[Calluna]

Jetta - no not yet. between DF and Isaac I barely have a spare second to myself. As soon as I get a chance I will. Although he's been a little better the last couple of days. He's had two decent feeds today already and no ussing at either. So maybe things are turning around. If I'm still having issues tommorrow I'll try calling them. I know what you mean about going crazy buying stuff, theres so much I want to get but cant and probably will anyway

Sloane - I don't think it's realted to AF because se's been back for a few months. Still haven't heard from barb or mantaray.

Miss E - I often wonder how many babies actually fit into those schedules. Isaac certainly wouldn't. I've been thinking about the jumparoo things but we lust bought a jolly jumper so I guess that'll have to wait for a while. How old is two old for them to use them?

Hiya everyone else.

AFM - Yesterday was horrible. We went to a picnic and it should have been a nice afternoon but I gave DF Isaac's dummy to boil while I got him ready and he forgot to pick it up on the way out. Because he needs it to sleep during the day I called MIL to grab it as she hadn't left yet. But she also forgot. Which was annoying but people forget stuff, poop happens.
Because Isaac was tired and wouldn't sleep he was cranky so I took him for a walk. When I came back about 20 mins later I found some kid and his mum that I'd never met before sitting on Isaacs rug playing with his toys. WTF?! No-one from my family had ever met them before and they came over and started playing with his toys. I don't know what kind of illnesses they might have and they just start touching his things? And they never bothered to ask if it was ok. It's just so damn rude. What is wrong with people these days?
NOT HAPPY! Not to mention the fact that this kid had also been playing in the dirt not long before and thrown it in everyones food. I had about 4 of his favourite toys on his mat and I have no idea which ones were played with and I dunno if I'll feel comfortable giving them to Isaac now, especially as he chew on his toys.
I dunno what to do now, If I should put them in the washing machine even though the tag said not to, I'm guessing because of the bells and rattles and stuff inside them. or put them in the sun like FIL said. I just don't think I can give them to him and feel safe doing so. WDYT? Am I over reacting, I'm furious?

sigh... aside from that things have been ok I guess, we're seeing my mum today which is sure to be fun, NOT!

bye bye

[Miss E]

I dunno what to do now, If I should put them in the washing machine even though the tag said not to, I'm guessing because of the bells and rattles and stuff inside them. or put them in the sun like FIL said. I just don't think I can give them to him and feel safe doing so.

I'd just handwash them in hot water with whatever detergent you use for his clothes. I've done that with a couple of Ash's soft Lamaze type toys and they've come up great. I also use a mixture of hot water and vinegar to clean his plastic/wood toys. HTH

[naomi54]

hey all,
sorry havnt been on to post.....Cam is getting better....still drives me crazy though....but after reading what some of you are going throught with your little ones,im inclined to think what he does could be classed "normal" for this age!!..........apparently we have stopeed our 4hr nap aswell, now having 2-3 naps a day...which i find better. Although means generally our mornings are now starting at 5 not 7+ grrr ohwell

Have uploaded some pics on FB...We got Cam a walker for xmas, never had one with Lachie, but i thought bugger all the preconceptions i had heard with DS1 and Cam LOVES IT!!!

regards to those with feeding issues, im having the same drama, although like i said things are getting better and he actually taking alot more bottles without too much of a fuss, was wondering if possible, their little backs could be out or something?? have heard of this but im not sure?

Hey Heather LOVED your birth story...Well done hun, you must be proud as!!

i use hot water and vinegar to wash hard surfaced toys and, hand wash with just hot water and maybe some washing powder with the soft toys.
I'd be fuming too, i cant believe the nerve of some people.

Cam can dismiss many bottles in a row, most has been 4 over a 6 hr period, taking in only about 50mls, but next offer he was fine. Nowadays he may dismiss 1-2 bottles but they are half drunk so im not to fussed, i assume he knows when he hungry and how hungry, so i follow his lead, cant do damage unless he always refuses them right??

im with you all on the sleeping "ADVICE", Cam doesnt follow tradtional routines as it is letalone sleeping routines!!!

sorry for the lack of personalised personals, have been meaning to get on here but kids are "good" just full on atm....had a few breakdowns over last couple of days, makes me feel as this is a sign i shouldve been happy with just 1 iykwim, not that i would change it for the world now of course but i hope ykwim.
I do do the whole, it wont last it will get better etc, but half the time it doesnt work and i get stuck as to knowing what to do, family and friends work, or live a fair bit away, im not one to call on help when im in the middle of a crisis, i normally call someone after it and get it off my chest that way, buts its not when i actually need it.....iykwim

OMG im dribbling on like crap, sorry ladies, hope you are enjoying your weekends.