Babies Born ~ March 16th-31st 2011 #4

[WeeMansMummy]

OMG hope!!! I was just thinking about you today. That sleep sounds horrid

Ferrals.... YAaaaaaaYyyy!!! LOL
So happy you'll get on fb! You have so many bb friends and fb is the best way to see all our bubs, an for us to see Ella!!!!!!

[ellasmummy]

Yay ferrals on FB!! Re the jolly jumper I heard the same thing, but asked dd1s physio, who specialises in paed physio and she said it is 100% fine as long as they have neck and trunk control sorted and its not used as a baby sitter. It's actually good for leg strength. Meanwhile how slack is your DHs ex W!! Sucks the responsibility falls on you.
Hi Hope!!!! Hope those boys settle down and realise how awesome sleep is soon I didn't know about the meet up but I'm keen
Chloe is finally sleeping through thank god! Sometimes will wake up for a 3am feed which I actually love cos its basically the only time I get just me and her and she's all cuddley afterwards and goes back to sleep.

[Beautiful Disaster]

Thanks kylz how cool is it DH has gone nuts looking at all the different ones he likes the rainforest one you have because ella has the rainforest cot mobile and floor play mat did you order yours on ebay or did you buy it somewhere cheaper.

nope ebay they are $290 new. I paid $90 BARGIN.... Reckon

[Beautiful Disaster]

Hey Hope

If the others are good I am too. We were doing it then cause Jaki was going to be here but she isnt now

[WeeMansMummy]

Hey Hope

If the others are good I am too. We were doing it then cause Jaki was going to be here but she isnt now

[Beautiful Disaster]

there arent enough sad faces in the world to show how sad i am

[KittyK]

wooo we are back to lots of talking!! i feel like i just wrote an essay...

re sleep: Chase now sleeps 8pm-9pm to 7am bless his little heart, no wake ups inbetween. Then its the feeds during the day; 7am, 9am, noon, 3pm, 6pm and 8.30pm so I can pretty much work my day around that. He only started doing this about two weeks ago but I was soooo happy and i still am since my boy is in bed fast asleep and its 8.30pm.

jumper: I have the fisher and price precious planets jumperoo, haven't used it yet. I bought mine online at babyzonedirect even with postage was cheaper than the shops.

Kylz: so J wasn't teething...I think Chase might be. Not that he has any teeth coming through but he actually chomps on my fingers really hard and just cries randomly until he gets the finger. I think it must be a prelude or something to actual teething. He wont chew on the proper teething toys though, I think he doesnt like the taste of the rubber stuff lol

louise: how good is sleeping through???? I actually dont miss the 3am feed lol but then again its always just me and chase all day must be nice to have that special time with you and Chloe. I think I remember you saying people were saying stuff about you co-sleeping??? Before I actually had Chase I was so against co-sleeping due to the videos they made me watch in hospital...now I don't know how I would live without it hahaha funny how experience changes perspective. Co-sleeping is my favourite way to sleep with chase once daddy goes to work in the morning.

hope: shouldn't be long before the boys sleep through hopefully sounds like you are doing well in spite of the lack of sleep. I'm amazed at how well us mothers do with so little sleep yet we raise children.

ferrals: when I read that post about your DSS I wanted to punch her mother in the face. I'm glad you blasted her, that is like child abuse or something letting her daughter suffer with nits in her hair just because she is too cheap. You got some great bargains on your trip too, I'm so jealous. Let us know when you get on fb; and you can turn off the chat function if that makes your DH a bit nervous, i hate having the chat thing turned on lol.

iona: LOL little jack smacking himself in the face with his fist. Chase still does that now the silly sausage.

sorry to anyone I missed the page only shows so many posts so I reply to the ones I can see

growth update: Chase bats at his toys when he is lying down now instead of balling his eyes out LOL Still won't be put on his belly, just cries still. He can grab this crinkly dog toy if I place it on his lap when he is sitting down and he brings it and blankets to his mouth to chew on. Oh and he likes to grab my hands and sit up when he is on the change table. Chase only just started holding his bobble head straight the past two days. I can sit him in his bumbo and he sits there normally instead of bending backwards Maybe a couple more weeks and he will be ready to safely sit in the jumperoo.

OMG I bought some of that rice cereal stuff on the weekend Chase is 4 months tomorrow!!!!! But I think I might wait until he is 5-51/2 months before I start trying the cereal, although I am so tempted to try now and see if he likes it hehe. He sometimes chews when we are eating and makes noises like he wants to know what we are doing. Still just knowing I have it at the ready makes me excited.

[~Lashes~]

sammie, good to hear your feeling better.
ferals, i never had a jumper for the boys, i got one for krystal and i am so glad i did, she loved it, only issue we had was the boys wanted to swing her. cant wait for allyssa to be big enough for it. i would knock your dsd's mum out! sounds like a right mole.

as much as i want to, im not bf anymore. she has ahd 2 bfs today purly because i needed the relife. mum come over sunday and helped get the house clean in return for me cooking dinner. over the last 2 days it looks like a tip, no worse. each time i sit down to feed her, trent goes threw EVERYTHING and it all ends up on the floor or broken. with the others i could walk arround feeding them, A i have to sit or she just giggles and smiles and mucks about. with a bottle i can lay her down, prop it up with a blankie and she is sorted while i deal with turd. thought day care would help, he is ****ing worse

[ferrals5]

I am figureing out FB so far so good until DH saw my ex friends with benefits profile pop up on my page OMG! anyway i just said dont worry i wont be talking to him.

I will be getting some sort of play thingy for ella she is getting so chubby laying around doing nothing and DH and i are short so she has no hope in the hight dept so her little legs are pork chops now.

Ella only wakes once between 2-4am so i am not complaining.
And she hates her belly time also she will be ok for a few minutes then forget it.

Please forgive me if i accidently ignored anyones friends request on FB i was getting heaps from work mates and BB members and there were names i didnt recognise as i only know some of you by your BB name so i just went oh! i dont know that person and hit ignore before i relised kylz had recomended them to me anyway i wil get the hang of it i just need to sit down and have a good look through it.

[ellasmummy]

Awwwwww jak that sucks!!!!!!
Hehe ferrals u will get the hang of it
Sarah, I can only imagine how full on your life must be at the moment, good on you for sticking with it for this long
Re development Chloe loooves tummy time, almost rolled tummy to back tonight, but her den gets stuck then she cracks the sh*ts lol. Loves batting around toys hanging from carseat and pram and A Frame thingy during floor play. Going nuts on her hands all the time, peevrs me off though cos as soon as she does it whoever I'm with says oh she must be hungry!
Kitty can't believe we are talking solids already, all our bubbas are growing up too fast

[JennaJayen]

Yay Ferrals on getting on FB Ella is so gorgeous!

Hope - glad to hear from you

Sarah - you did so well to stick with it for so long. I felt so bad for stopping expressing at 8wks, but I think it will be better for Elise in the long run as her reflux and colic aren't anywhere near as bad as they were before.

Kitty - can't believe he's 4 months already! still feels like yesterday to me that he was born.

Hi everyone else, it's really late and I don't have the energy to go back through the last few pages of posts

afm - hubby is in melbourne, doing boring 1st yr apprentice work which a chef with over 15 years of experience shouldn't have to be doing... oh well, he's getting paid for it and gets to work with the bloke from "Good Chef, Bad Chef" Feeling rather lonely here on my own and had a bit of a dilemma yesterday with the weather being so horrible and needing nappies, milk and meat. Ended up taking advantage of a brief sunny period to get to the supermarket.
I'm almost back into sz16 jeans again! Yay! my sz18s are so loose now that they keep on falling down and I can't find my belt lol so I bought a sz16 pair yesterday and they're a little bit small and give me a muffin top but I can do them up!
Just need to get to Tony Ferguson tomorrow for my weekly weigh in now and see if I've lost any more weight.

As far as development goes:
At 2 months Elise sleeps from 10:30pm to 8-9am, can hold her head up for 10 minutes during tummy time, actively hits her toys when they are dangling in front of her, makes direct eye contact (DS didn't start to do that until he was about 8 months old, got me really worried for a while), grabs the bee-dangly and pelican dangly toys that are hanging on her bassinet, brings her hands and blankets up to her mouth to chew on them, smiles at everyone, tries to talk to us and mostly self-settles (sometimes we need to put the dummy in a few times).
She can also support herself on her legs if we are holding her straight or holding her hands out in front of her (a big surprise for me as DS couldn't do that until 6 months) and loves it, smiling every time we do it lol
She drinks an average of 750mls of formula a day, sometimes more, sometimes less (like at the moment because she is sick), and she has just started to watch us eat and chops up and down a bit on her tongue while watching us.
She is now fully in 000's, though the bonds wondersuits are getting a bit small every other brand fits well.
Only thing she doesn't do is laugh. She gets to the point where she wants to and opens her mouth really wide while smiling but no sound comes out. She's really quiet too, not loud like DS was. When she cries I have trouble hearing her from out the front of the house or just out the back door, where with DS I could hear him from all the way down the back of the backyard (and we have a HUGE backyard).
She also has a little grey hippo toy that she has to have next to her face when she goes to sleep so that she can snuggle into it. DH is to blame for that as when he got it he put it right next to her face so she could see it and she hasn't spent a night without it since lol
We demand feed as well, although sometimes we have to wake her up when she's been asleep for 4 hours straight as otherwise she won't drink much throughout the day, she's just a very sleepy baby at the moment.

I think that's everything lol Hope you all have a great week!

[lilmisspositive]

Hi Ladies,

Jak: Thanks darlin, I try it has been a hard 12 weeks and I am sticking around home probably a bit too much these days so really trying to keep a good attitude. Some days are harder then others. Btw I seen that about talking ect... and thought you ment day but now know you mean at night. K has slept through since 5 weeks so I did whatever then. Btw so proud of you with the breastfeeding. Glad to hear your still doing it! I know how hard it can be. : )

Elleasmummy: Hey you, yes my email is the same. I will check the fb one now though. Sorry, read below about that. xx

Kylz: Always good to see you. Thanks for making the detour. xx

Ferrals: The last week, I have been letting K do whatever as I had a growth spurt happening... ****. Thank god for a husband that is supportive and wine. Today is the first day I am getting him back to normal. I am just CRAZY!! I have never heard him whinge so much as the last few days!

Sammie: I know you chook, no offense taken. : ) xx

Iona: Your still pregnant in your avi! : ) I know your busy. Go super mom~xx

Hope: Totally up for the meet up June 20th.... Are we? I am so much better in person these days... xx

Kitty: Yaaa to Chase he is a trooper. Just started K on rice cereal. He smiled and talked through the whole experience so I am going to keep it going as he is just a very hungary baby. He is not spitting it back up so that is a good sign. I cannot wait to see you on the 20th?!? Your comments make me laugh. : )

Jenna: Sounds like Elise is doing awesome! Yaaaa to the size 16!!! That is awesome. I am getting there. When you start to lose though, just helps you doesn't it?

Sarah: Aw. bet it will get better before you know it. I think you did awesome with the bf. I hope all gets better at your place soon. Still amazed how you do everything. : )


Sorry if I missed anyone. HELLLLLLOOO!

Afm: Well, I am giving fb a break as I want to organize my home and find that there can be so much negativity on there it is driving me nuttah!! I am still doing ww but have just started the 17 day diet for a booster.

K is doing well. Whingy the last week with no routine and driving me nuttah!! I fixed that this morning and he is now sleeping! Yaaa. Got him the jump a roo thingy with animals... He loves that... just think he needs the stimulation. Thank you to everyone for sharing your feeding details. Think I am alienating myself and need to join a moms group or something.

Anyways, have to run as I have been here for ages!! Hope your all well. Lotsa love. xx

[Arimeh]

Hey guys Been reading and not posting because its hard to get laptop time these days - and I hate posting from my iphone (seriously, does the touch pad keyboard bug anyone else as much as me?)

I just popped in to say that I've noticed a few of you have started giving bubs rice cereal/farex etc. I just wanted to say that the recommended age for solids is not before 4 months, because the baby's digestive system just isn't developed enough to deal with it. I'm not trying to be all pushy or what not, just didn't know if you guys knew why the 4 month age was in place.

Anyway, thats all from me (all I have time for - crying baby), have to go rock the baby to sleep while the other two girls are sleeping and DS is watching tv.

[lilmisspositive]

Hey Mel, mine is on the recommendation from midwife and queues from K. As do this... do that.. do this.. Changes so much I feel what we are doing is right. Thanks for the heads up though. Was a very very thought out and sought advice from Mid wife and my OB.. all who are happy if he is. Not to mention all the others who are doing it. ; )

[Jakabella]

Great info thanks Mel! Bella was 5.5 months and H will not be starting till the same or latter. I'm happy for him to stay a bub - no rush here. Had a pead and MCHN and Ob (who is the highest ob in Vic - teaches all the other obs) appoint last week and they all agree that 5.5 - 6 months is earliest.
Each to their own though. We all have to do what's right for us.
H man is doing AOK for now! 8kgs and 63cms long! Growing like a weed!
Bed time for all of us.. Xo

[Jakabella]

* highest ob in rural Vic I should say - iPhone won't let me edit post...*

[Arimeh]

Hey Mel, mine is on the recommendation from midwife and queues from K. As do this... do that.. do this.. Changes so much I feel what we are doing is right. Thanks for the heads up though. Was a very very thought out and sought advice from Mid wife and my OB.. all who are happy if he is. Not to mention all the others who are doing it. ; )

Fair enough, I was just spreading the info!
Kate - OMG he's huge!! LOL... Sahti is only 5kg (very slow to gain weight) and about 60cms long.

[Sammiejane]

OK, going to preface this with;

Tams, please dont feel that i am ganging up on you, as there has been a run of similar posts directly after yours...

OK - i have re written this several times and can say what i want to say without sounding b*tchy, so please take it with a pinch of salt and put it down to the fact that i cant say things well when i am typing

When we all had the earlier discussion about introducing solids, there was discussion about the time frame of 4-6 months... the reason that these numbers are blurred is because they KNOW that the digestive system matures SOMEWHERE between this time, but there is no way of knowing which baby has a mature gut at which age, so thats why WHO raised the age to the upper limit (to cover all babies) and some health professionals still will say introduction at 4 mths is OK.

I found a news article that was written regarding the info from the british Scientist (something like that) after the discussion and it was interesting the rationale to switching back to below 6 months. I also read the Huggies website that you mentioned Tam and found their information to be fairly interesting too

to those that have decided to start earlier than the 4 month mark, i am not asking you to 'explain yourselves' at all, i am just curious as to the reasons why your babies need to start on solids before the 4-6 month?

I had a chat to my CMHN about this (introduction at 4 mths) two weeks ago at A's last check up and she said that if a parent is adamant to feed their baby solids at 4 months, they still recommend delaying as longs as possible, but also tell them that they should feed them something that is prepared by them not out of a packet or jar as this can do the most damage to the gut due to the added bits and preservatives etc.

I am not sure what age i will be introducing solids to A, however as per the recommendations of not just WHO, but medical proffessionals too - a baby needs to be able to sit up unsupported, have no head lag, no tongue thrust reflex and should be grabbing at food from parents/others plates.... so those are the cues that i am using, not the 'age' as once they are present i will be fairly confident that her gut is ready for the food that i introduce.

Sorry again, if i have offended and dont want to turn this into a fight... maybe i should keep my comments to myself, but i know that once one parent does something, everyone tends to follow that lead, so wanted to share my opinion and understand yours

I will be back to do persies later, otherwise this will be a novel!