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sarah: thats bull about domperidone instantly drying up your milk when you stop taking it. I took it for about 3 weeks I think it was or 4 and all you need to do is wean yourself off it after a number of weeks by taking one every couple of days and then stop. plus the info sheet the hospital gave me with the tablets said that you shouldn't take it for longer than 8 weeks anyway. That just proves the health nurse knows jackcrap about that :)
I realise you'd be pretty busy Sarah with 4 kidletts but have you thought about expressing for a while to get an idea of exactly how much milk your producing? It will also help with making more milk if you do it regularly :)
I express regularly for DS and have found it particularly useful at the moment as he is off his milk. I can gauge how much he is drinking to prove he is off his food and monitor his intake. Some people can't express a lot or the pump isn't efficient and their bub can actually extract more than the pump so I would just use the expressing as a guide if you decide to do it but you can see how much they are drinking. I agree it will help make more milk if you do it for a minimum of 8 times a day for about 15 - 20 mins per side so it can be a bit of work particularly when you have other kids. I'm not sure if could do the amount of expressing I need to do if I had other children. Occupying one whilst expressing can be hard enough. I tend to feed DS a bottle whilst expressing which helps. There are also some herbs you can take like fenugreek for building supply.
Ugh laying here, w is wide awake! Go to sleeeeep!
Plus I'm all crampy, maybe what I thought was left over birth bleeding is the start of af.
This will sound bad but I was hoping it wouldn't come back as dh is trying to pressure me into having a FET really soon. I'm using the breastfeeding excuse but he still nags about it.
We up too Grrr
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Worst night Eva! Slept from 7:30-11. Then 12-2, wide awake until 5. Then was passed out practically so I thought woohoo sleep in... Nope! Up again at 5:30!
Waaaahhh
Lots of awake time here too. She's coming up to 6 weeks though and I'm sure someone told me it's a growth spurt for them. Bring on the coffee today!! Meanwhile DH is going to be late for work.... He spent most of the night getting the older two to sleep, while I dealt with the baby.
Thank god they're cute ay?
Eta - Sarah, I would just weigh her at home, and if you are concerned about her weight then go see someone. I think 100g gain a week is acceptable for breastfed babies, but I know some weeks are on either side or that figure and it's still ok? I hardly weigh Sahti and I don't take her to the mchn, dealt with too many bad ones before. I can tell she is growing, she's nearly out of 0000's, and they used to swim on her. Trust your instinct about her growth xxxx
bad night here as well from 1-3 then 4:45 till about 6:30 went to put him down as he was asleep on me and woke up again, screaming until about half hr ago where he had actually calmed down enough to chuck him on the boob and now he is asleep - let's see for how long
Before I start please be gentle.
Today I am off to take J for his circumcition :( If DH wasnt done I wouldnt have considered it. There is no cutting involved anymore but I am still nervous and mad that I have to go alone. Why do the mums have to do the hard things?
Been a horrible night and its going to be a long day. DH has touch tonight so I be home alone at the worst part of the day. For some reason J screams from 730 for no reason. he is dozing off thge he screams the back arches and he wont settle. He doesnt do this any other time. Its so exhausting. its the same EVERY night.
Ok me rant over. Hi to all. Be back when I have 2 hands
xxxx K
Kylz - don't feel bad, you're doing what you think is right. Which is the best for your baby. Fwiw, DS has been circumcised too. Are you still giving him wind stuff? Could be a build up of wind maybe from during the day? I remember Aricyn being shocking at that age, we used to put him on the couch and pat with one hand and eat dinner with the other hand lol
Nope I keep forgetting. Even when I was didnt matter :(
Kylz-Lots of bubs are cranky in the evening that is ella's favourite time to whinge.
As for getting boys circumcised my 3 are not done i dont think it isnt nessarsary but thats my opinion i taught my boys at a young age how to clean it properly but i dont have a problem with others who get their sons done my SIL had her son done and it didnt work so now he has a skirt of foreskin at the front of his penis and it looks awful so she is having it done in surgery when he is a little older.
My DH is done and he would have liked our son done if we had one and i said well you can take him to be done because anything involved in unnessarsary pain to our baby you can do thank god we had a girl i dont have to worry about it.
Kylz good luck and Boo to your hubby for making you do it alone.
Well i can actually say Ella is sleeping like a dream (touch wood) since on the zantac and reflux formula she had a feed at 9pm and slept until 3am then had a feed and went back to sleep until 7am and the night before she slept great to now just to get her to stick to the later last feed and i will only have to get up once in the night.
And during the day yesterday she fed every 6 hours and slept really good we even had to go out so i got her out of bed dressed her put her in the car seat and she stayed asleep what a difference we have seen since treating her reflux.
AFM-Went to the loo last night DH though i was doing a wee and i said no that is blood it was pouring out of me :shakehead: i have no clue what is going on i see the doctor for Ella tomorrow so i hope he will see me too.
ohhh chook, it could just be his witching hour!!!
Huge hugs kylz, u know we don't judge in our group. If I didn't have ab apptment today I would come with you. Xxxx Chloe is feral from about 7pm til 10pm every night. Seems a lot of us missed out on the sleepy quiet newborns!!
I'm taking chloe to the Dr today. There has to be something more than 'wind pain' going on....hope to get some answers.or ear plugs lol
Question ladies.
Ella is having her needles tomorrow and the nurse said they dont want me to give her panadole half an hour before hand like they use to she says they want to see how babies reactions are before we give panadole as they dont see the full reactions of babies because they are all on pain relief i think that is unnessersary and cruel i plan to give her panadole before the needles and every 4 hours after until i feel she is not in pain.
What would you do?
Ferrals - I gave DS and DD1 panadol beforehand, but forgot with DD2 (for the vaccinations that she did get) and she seemed to cope ok. If she looked like she was in pain, then I would give her some, some babies handle it better than others. Totally up to you - if you want to give it beforehand, just do it. I don't think it will do any harm :)
Ferrals - I never gave Luke panadol beforehand but would after if he required it. It's up to u my dear, don't let others talk u out of what u think is best for ur precious one
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Ferrals maybe it's in case they have an adverse reaction? I would think panadol might dull the reaction itms?
Kylz *hugs* for you having to deal with that on your own. Can you ask DH to skip training this week? He wants it done, he should at least help with J after it happens.
Well ladies, I'm finally going to admit that I'm really struggling here and get some help today. I spent the evening sobbing again. I can't sleep, I'm anxious constantly and I feel like everything is too hard. I go from feeling elated and in control to completely overwhelmed daily. By the time DH gets home at night I'm exhausted and just shut myself off. I haven't said anything because I thought it was just me adjusting and it would sort itself out, but last night I forgot to change H's nappy after his 4pm feed and just sat on the rocker for 2hrs staring at him. Once i realised I'd forgotten I sobbed for ages. It sounds stupid now because it wasn't like he was hurt or anything, but it made me feel like I'm utterly incompetent. I've dealt with depression before and this feels like depression to me so I'm off to my GP today to get some help.
I never did with ella, was always told its do they can gauge if she was having a reaction by high temps etc,and panadol can disguise it. But I can't see what harm it would do really....
Hugs Ali, good on you for addressing it and going to see someone xxx
Oh Ali im so sorry. GL at the Dr's. You are so brave for seeking help. That alone makes you an awesome mumma cause not many woman recognize and admit there is a problem.
Please let us know how you get on. Is someone able to go with you?
xoxo
Good luck Ali. We all love u.
This is so crap.,I'm sitting in this surgery and all the other daddys are here and I'm alone. No wonder people are looking at me funny.
DH I HATE U TODAY
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Big hugs Ali xxxxxxx
I feel that I had pnd with Aricyn and I thought it was normal to feel that disconnected so I never saw someone. Who knows the damage I have done to him because of that time and how I treated him. Good on you for realizing it's not normal - you ROCK!!
Good luck :hug:
Not really, but it's ok. I just need to stop crying for 5mins to get there. Posting all that had me sobbing again lol. Aww, smiles from my lil boy helps. Thanks for the support :-)
gotta be quick as i am off to the Aquarium today and i am meeting JJ :)
Kylz - so sorry that you are having to do this alone, it really sucks :( sending you some :hug: today xx
Re the witching hour, MJ was terrible between 5 and 8pm. with A it is a shorter time and not as bad - or maybe it is that i remember it to be worse or was expecting it so it doesnt feel as bad iykwim. She gets over tired/stimulated and wants to feed, but doesnt want it... i find that the only way of settling her is walking around the house with her laying over my arm (superman style) and rocking her to sleep - but she doesn't settle long... trouble is this time around we have to have dinner at a set time because of MJ, so usually DH eats first (i try to eat each night with them but it never works) then when he is finished we takes A and i eat! Over night i am usually up for an additional hour getting the wind out as she wont settle until its gone - i have started tummy sleeping her in the day and she sleeps so much better, i think that i will night sleep her this way soon, but just want to hold off a bit longer if i can as it scares me (though i have a breathing monitor)
Ali - i sent you a message on FB... You are a great Mummy and as the others have said, you are so brave and ultimately a fantastic Mummy as you have taken that step to ask for help - i hope that your appointment goes well, please let us know how you get on... there is nothing but support in here, come in a vent, we are all here for you (and each other) and sometimes i think that it is easier to admit your feelings when you are not face to face withsome one. :hug: thinking of you today, you have my number, call me if you need xx
Mskara-good on you for recognising the signs and admitting you need help i know it feels awful to admit you are not copeing but it is the best thing you can do i didnt want to admit that ella wasnt a perfect bub like her brothers with sleeping routine ect and i was getting anxious everytime she was crying and it wasnt until i went to the doctors and said she is a nightmare and i just can not for the life of me work her out there is something wrong that i felt good we got her sorted out with her reflux and now i feel better about myself that it wasnt me doing anything wrong and i also stop telling people she is a good bub when they ask i say no she is a demanding baby who can have her moments and be a shocker when she wants to so i dont feel guilty lying.
So even us 4 time mums can have problems to hun i hope you feel better soon.
Kylz-you poor thing i couldnt handle doing it on my own i hope it all goes smoothly and when you get home you can give your DH an earbashing.
I have decided to just do what i did with my other kids as it worked for them i will give some panadole before the needles and then just see how she is every 4 hours after that.
I am feeling really light headed today and nauseous i am so sick of feeling like sh#t i want my pre pregnant body back no bleeding and feeling normal again i look like a pale sick person at the moment.
Have fun sammie and jenna!
Thanks Jaki.
Ferrals re the panadol, it's an anti-pyretic (which means it brings down temps) which means that giving panadol before hand will mask a reaction so you don't notice it early.
I never gave panadol with MJ and she didn't really need it afterwards with the immunizations that she had.
But totally up to you what you do, just thought I would explain it :)
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All done. They don't let the parents in :( my poor bubba was crying real tears. He is ok now.
I can't blame jus he had to work or we starve. Was just so mad cause everyone was looking at me
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Sammie-Yeh i did no that it's just 13-18 years ago when i had my boys it was you MUST give panadole before hand and now it's all changed i relise it will mask a reaction but isnt that the point all babies will have some sort of reaction weather it be a slight redness at the injection site or full on sick with temperatures giving panadole will help avoid the high temp rise and pain.
Anyway i suppose these doctors change their minds like their underwear one day it's you SHOULD do this and eat this and then the next thing you hear it's you SHOULDNT do this and cant eat this is causes cancer ect same as the tummy sleeping it use to be recomended years ago and they still do it in NICU'S and now it's a big NO NO.
Kylz-awww poor bubba.
poo to the bad nights, i was up with krystal screaming all night, think shes going to do the same tonight aswell, firetruck went past the pram tooting and sirens woke her up, so no nap today...
Ali, :hug:
Kylz, :hug: im still coping ***** from fil as i could not go threw with taking tyhe boys to get it done, im not against it, i just cant take them for it, and now i think they would be to old and remember, but apparently im just a lazy *** yeah, cant win either way with this whole mothering gig im afraid!
i know i had other things to post and reply to, but 3 hrs sleep then going to playgroup in hopes of the 3yo pulling his head in my brain is more scrambled today then normal.
hi to those of you i have missed:hello:
Sarah-my mum and stepdad gave me flak for not getting my boys done and my mum only had girls so whats it to her i said why should i put my boys through something not nessersary it is not done as much these days as it used to be and most boys today are not done my mums reply was it is dirty not to be done WTF! how would you know you have never been with anyone with a foreskin i have been with both and to be honest the sex is better with men who have foreskins they are more sensitive and if a man is clean he is clean all over it's like cleaning your ears if you dont they will get dirty and then i just said they were born with it so it stays unless they chose to have it done when they are older so she has not mentioned it since.
Sorry to hear your having a rough time with bub.
MsKara - :hug: You are a great mumma to get the support you need to take care of your little one.
Kylz - my BIL is pressuring me to get DS done, every time I see him he mentions it.
Went to the LC today. She suggested that i actually take DS off the boob for about 4 days and then re-try. The opposite advice to the last LC I saw. Seeing the paediatrician tomorrow which is great because DS is still only taking half the volume of EBM as he had been. DS is having a bit of terror time at the moment but I think he is tired and probably a bit hungry but can't drink anymore...bring on the appointment tomorrow.
Kylz: I'm not too fussed about getting C done. mostly because im a lazy cow LOL also DH isn't done so he can teach C how to look after it properly. How is J now? Has he forgotten all about it? I love baby memory, they get something done like a needle and an hour later they are happy again :)
Lisa: GL with the paed tomorrow, maybe he can give you better answers than the LC's.
Ali: :hug: you are awesome. Hope all goes well with the dr.
And just to prove Im super lazy, I gotta go but hi to everyone :hello:
...well I'm not really lazy but busy since Im cooking dinner and DH is sleeping with C...yeah DH gets a sleep and I get to cook dinner even though I was up with C at 4am this morning :rolleyes: I tried to dream feed last night but I think I didn't latch him properly cos he only lasted till 4am, gah, will try again tonight if I get him to sleep earlier than usual.
Thanks for the support everyone :) I saw my GP and am starting on meds and will go back in a week to discuss whether I want counseling etc. I barely made it in to my GPs room before I burst in to tears again, but I feel much better already just getting it off my chest. He has also ordered me out of the house twice a week without H for some Ali time, which is what Matt has been pushing me to do for the past few weeks but I just haven't felt like going out anywhere. My bestie is sending me out for High Tea with his gf on Sunday for Mother's Day, so I guess that will be a good start!
Anyway, I'd better start something around here. H is finally asleep after fussing all day. He has mouth thrush and has been unsettled for days, which hasn't helped!
He is ok now Kittz. He had a bit of a meltdown when we visted Iona n Jack today but he is ok. The dr told me he shouldnt be in any pain but i have given him some panadol anyway. He is asleep in his swing at the moment *smacks hand cause the chn told me off for it last week* but he is happy there and he isnt screaming like normal at this time of night.:
Oh the Dr today did tell me that he heard J gulping down air when they laid him down to do the procedure and asked what his wind is like. I told him and he gave me a script for some wind drops that are only made here in Bris at the Wesley Hospital. They are the same as a medication that started with a D that was taken off the market 12 months ago but do you think I can remember what its called. I called to check how much it was and its $32 :( Guess that will be waiting till payday on Monday.
ALI - Im glad you are feeling a little better after seeing your GP. Im off to see mine tomorrow for a few things and im sure I will be the same. Im stealing your strength.
Ali: Me time sounds like a good idea, i might even indulge myself this week or next :) Glad the GP made you feel a little better, thats one hurdle crossed already. enjoy your high tea, i went to one for a bridal shower and it was really fancy, felt all ladylike lol
Kylz: $32 that stuff better contain flecks of gold LOL jks. Thats good that he isn't in any pain, I was seriously thinking about getting C done but I told DH and I think DH was offended lol. men. Does W doze off in the swing?? C has his eyes wide open in it like its the ride from hell, but he just sits there and stares at the toys dangling down. I think it stimulates him more than makes him sleepy.
Today I took off C's nappy because he loves being half naked (seriously the kid loves it, starts talking and smiling as soon as it comes off) laid him on a towel in the living room and just let him go :) He loved it sooooo much, kicking his legs around and gurgling happily. Best idea my mum ever had to keep him happy during the day :)
And C woke up at 7pm had his feed and is in bed now sleeping hopefully for the night. I'll wake him up for a dream feed around 11pm, unfortunately its on the right boobie which he hates so hopefully i latch him on properly this time and he gets enough milk to help him last.
What is everyone doing for mothers day? I've hinted to DH that breakfast in bed wouldn't go astray :) and that i want him to print the book ive been writing and toying with for the past two years so I can proofread it again.
i got told off for the same thing, only her rocker, not the swing had to get rid of that befor she was born so her bed had a place to go! not that she sleeps more than 5 mins in it:rolleyes: i hope that it works, for 32 it would want to change him and tuck him in to!!:
i just rememberd someone mentioned expressing..... i have never been able to with the other 3, but i got 25ml out of each side (pain-free to i must add!) about 2 weeks ago.. havent been game to try again since, keep thinking it was a fluke and it will hurt like hell if i try again...
can not belive how quiet it is, krystal is actualy asleep, seth is sleeping, trent is out partying with dad (probably asleep on granpas couch) and i cant do a bloody thing cos if i put allyssa down, she will wake up and scream for cuddles :rolleyes: typical!!
La la la la. I knew letting him sleep from 5 was a bad idea. Now has woken at 11 for a feed but I will let him off since had s hard day. Went back to sleep now awake at 1140 and just wants to cry. Gave him some panadol and I think I've got him down again but now I'm lying here staring at the wall. Grrr
OMG my face is still burning :( giving it 10 more min then I'm getting in the shower again.