Babies born~ May 16th-31st 2009 #9

[*TripleJ*]

ahh poo jamies loving animals at the moment the dogs get more love than me at the moment

[briggsy's girl]

Sorry but I'm not taking Bailz to the zoo atm, he has developed a fear of dogs, cats and anything that moves!!

oh no! poor Bailz! was there a trigger Nay?

E is an animal lover. She goes to my parents place, won't say hello to them til she has spoken to "Bot Bot" (the dog, Spot). if she seens another dog, it's a pot pot, if she hears one, same thing. she mostly calls cats pots too, although occassionally we get cat.

i was petrified of dogs when i was little (still not a fan of jumpy big dogs) - really want to get E a dog, but have it's not really happening for a while at least

[~*Niadalla*~]

I'd LOVE to, but I just cannot commit to anything at the moment. With all the sports/exercising I do, in committees for kinder and tennis, VP for playgroup, moving house next month, plans of a Hubby and Me only holiday later in the year.... and the ever present threat of flooding and having to relocate everytime (which will probably happen tomorrow or Thursday. LOL), I just don't have the time or the bank balance. If only I lived a little closer to a capital city and it might make things a little easier.

I miss you girls.

On another note, I'm just wondering if your kids are still a tiny bit unsteady on their feet? Allira doesn't seem unsteady and she runs around everywhere, but sometimes she trips over her own feet. It's kinda funny.... but yeah just wanted to make sure that it's what all the kids are doing. It's hard to remember back to when Lachie was this age (Mainly because when Lachie was this age, Allira was born.... I think I have blocked out about 3 months when I first become a Mum of 2. Crazy times!).

My only wish? That she wasn't so darn talkative!! She never shuts up and I worry about what kind of monster I have created. hahaha

[MummyNaomi]

Nicky - Bailz still falls about here and there - usually cos he's little legs can't keep up with himself LOL

BG - no incident as such re the 'scared of dog/animal' thing

The only thing that comes to mind is B's godparents have this little white scampering mutt (don't know what it is) but its harmless but it runs extremely fast and bolts to the door when we arrive and I think the sheer speed and the fact that the dog is sniffing at him as soon as we walk in the door just overwhelmes him, and now he seems to have transferred that fear to any moving non human form!! But its not like he's been bitten or barked at as such.
We took him to the zoo when he was littler (around one I think) and he was fine then, its really only been the last few months that this fear has come about!

Bella - thinking of you honey

[wysiwyg]

Naomi - CJ went through a phase like that - if a dog was within 500 m she wanted to be picked up and carried, and then that seemed to carry over to all animals. It probably lasted 5 -6 weeks and now she seems fine with dogs and other animals again. I have to admit we were mean parents and took her to the zoo and farms during that time basically because we were trying to work out whether was all animals or not - well that is my excuse. So it might be something that passes fairly quickly for Bailey too.

The museum in Melbourne (Melbourne Museum) isn't a bad option for a meet - children's section has lots of stuff for them to do and play with (including dressing up as different animals) and there is stuff indoors and outdoors depending on the weather - there is also a good park nearby. Adults are 8 dollars, and children are free. Is easy on public transport too.

[~ Mylitta ~]

Nicky - Kyson doesn't seem to trip over himself unless his shoes give him trouble. The thing he trips over most are MY feet when he's trying to follow me too closely or get around me when I'm sitting on the couch, lol. Other than that he's quite steady, but then he was an early walker and has been practising for a long time now

[~ Mylitta ~]

Oh, do any of you know if you can use pyrenel (head lice treatment) when breastfeeding? I don't have head lice, but I checked my 11 year old DSS's head and think he does. So he's used the treatment and now I'm paranoid and feeling itchy (stupid power of suggestion). If it's completely safe I wouldn't mind sticking it on all our heads just in case, but I'm worried because of the pyrethrum in it... Maybe I should just condition my hair really well and run the lice comb through it a few times... I read that you can smother your head in mayo or castor oil, wrap it in plastic or a shower cap and leave it over night, but that reallllly does not sound fun at all!


EDIT: Actually, I think it's all fine. I ran the lice comb through my hair and through DH's hair and the worst thing we found was some dry skin flakes, lol. DSS combed out some icky little lice after using the pyrenel though. I never knew they were so little! No wonder you can only find the eggs in the hair when you are searching for them.

[Snacks]

Krystie: Glad the nit-scare was a false alarm. We have had a couple of reports of lice in Natty's preschool but fortunately haven't had to treat any... I wouldn't have the foggiest as to what's safest and most effective. I don't think I've ever seen lice before either, although I've certainly had dandruff
Nay: Natty is freaked out by animals too. It started off with dogs but now it's cats as well. She had a bad experience with a Jack Russell a couple of years ago at a work Christmas party I took her to - she was already not altogether fond of dogs but that seemed to throw her over the edge. WE haven't been back to the zoo but I guess at Nat's age she knows they're behind bars and she's safe.
Nicky: P is still known to topple over every now and again. She is more unco in shoes. But she is learning to jump atm and that looks hilarious! Talk about unco, LOL. Phoebe is learning more words atm, although I wouldn't call her a chatterbox. She says our names very well and will shout your name until she has your undivided attention, then once you say, 'yes Phoebe?' she has to stop and think of something to say to you. It's rather funny but a little frustrating when you are trying to have a serious conversation with someone.

We are moving house next week. It's good because we'll be closer to the family, not so good because the place is slightly smaller with less storage. It's a pretty area though, right on the bush (am trying not to think about the spiders ) and there's a park just up the hill, a shortish walk away.

[briggsy's girl]

blurgh - moving sucks! glad it's not me this time around!

are there any of our little crew that haven't had to move (or not contemplating moving) since our kidlets arrived???


just want to apologise to everyone for not being particularly active and chatty in here. i have been struggling with stuff IRL, and, if i'm honest, the number of preg announcements and new bubbas in here, as wonderful as it is, is also feeling a bit like a kick in the guts for me from an emotional perspective. we are over the moon to have E, and know how truly blessed we are - and we are also content (ish) with her being an only baby as ivf isn't on the cards again - but I'm still struggling with the emotional side of things when i'm confronted with pregnancies and new babies. it's nothing against anyone - i LOVE that you are all having babies again - just feeling a bit "woe is me" about it not being us. i think it really doesn't help that things have been so emotionally charged with the type of calls i'm taking at work so far this year, and losing so many people in my life that i care about - feeling a bit too drained to be able to come in here and be supportive and stuff. Hope no-one thinks this is anything against any of you because it's not - just going into the same old self-preservation techniques i used while TTC E - if things are too much emotionally, avoid it all! not healthy, but MEH!

anyway - been having a good-ish few days emotionally this week. the damage i have done to my back hasn't healed properly, so have been seeing the chiro more this week - the bonus to this is the fact i've been seeing him for a long time, and he has picked up a mood change, and pushed me to confront what i have been feeling. he's also given C the nudge to help me with dealing with it and working out where we stand. we have both admitted that one child is enough - any more would be a bonus - and we're both secretly hoping for that bonus. he is struggling as well, so at least he is understanding where i'm at...

on the subject of my back - it's pretty much screwed up - i've strained the major muscles in my upper back and shoulders, and haven't given it a chance to heal properly, so i'm now on a "no heavy lifting for two weeks" ban - E will, most times, climb up into my lap, so the only lifting i'm doing is when she is upset and just can't do it herself. hopefully soon it will be all ok - hate feeling like i'm useless!

now on to the fun stuff - the poppet! All i can say is WOW - how much are these kidlets developing at the moment? Every day is something new. I fall in love with her all over again every single day. A new word, a new action, understanding something new - everything makes me so damn happy and proud to be her Mummy! She is amazing in every way. I am so damn impressed with the way she is growing up! She is such a lovely little personality (even when she tantrums lol - she gives us a hug afterwards to apologise) - she engages people with her personality all the time. She is a little girl we're happy to take out in public because she almost always behaves so well (very rarely she will be over tired and have "issues" lol). She is starting to get more shy around strangers, but when she realises that mummy and daddy are talking to them and it's ok, she comes out of her shell again. i'm not too worried about it - i figured healthy caution isn't a bad thing around strangers lol

we have started doing some basic work on toilet training her, but we're not going to push it. It will happen when the time is right! I've very much adopted the "it will happen when it happens" attitude to parenting. i believe E could be further developed with some of her skills if DH and I swapped roles again (i'm more academic, so reading, drawing etc) but she is doing things i wouldn't do with her (she knows how to do things in the garden that i'm clueless about - quite embarrassing really). We just need to find a balance and to encourage Daddy to do the drawing/crafty type stuff more with her - which will happen when the weather changes again. I don't mind them making the most of the outside time while they can

Anyhoot - i think i have gushed enough!

[~ Mylitta ~]

Amy - Kyson is learning to jump as well and I agree that it is hilarious. He's been doing a semi-jump for a while now where he sort of jumps off one foot first and the "jump" is more like a skip. He was doing that lots copying Dorothy the Dinosaur characters, lol. I've now been teaching him the double footed jump and half the time he lands on his butt, haha! I also taught him somersaults which we are calling roly-polys. It's so cute when he does it. Half the time though hegoes over sideways instead of all the way over in a straight line.

BG - I haven't quite done a move with kidlets. Our move was a little under a month before Kyson came

No need to apologise about being less active in here. We all know that life sometimes gets in the way of our BB-life There has definitely been a lot of new preg and birth announcements in here lately and I've thought about how hard that might be for some people. And you're totally within your rights to feel a little "woe is me" about it too. Gosh, even I already get emotional knowing that I will never have another baby. Sometimes I look at Shayla and actually cry because I'll never have another bub doing what she is now, and she's growing much too quickly! I'm really glad that C is so understanding.

I have no idea how you are managing the "no lift" ban. I'm always having to pick up or move Kyson around, and even just playing with him can be a strain on my back! I hope you start to feel better soon.

I certainly agree that this is an amazing developmental stage for our kidlets. Kyson loves to ask for "more <insert whatever he currently wants>" lol! DH was in stitches the other day when Kyson walked up to him and very clearly and adamently said "more... sushi!". He still chucks an awesome tanty at least a couple of times a day and I'm always amazed how wet his face becomes with a combination of tears, drool and snot!!! He's worked out how to placate me when he's doing something naughty though... I tell him "no" or "stop" and he comes and gives me a kiss, lol.

We're having a little issue some days with nap time though. Kyson goes happily down into his cot after a book and a song while I snuggle him. Then some days he goes off to sleep, while others (like today) he stays in his cot chatting and singing away to himself. He'll stay in there for the hour and a half that he usually sleeps and then I go in there and get him out. But of course then in the afternoon he puts on his cranky pants and it's all fun and games as I'm sure you can all imagine. I'm glad that I still get the break while he's in his cot awake, and I'm glad that he's happy while he's in there, but I still really wish that he would actually sleep while he was in there.

Shayla is still doing really well. I thought Kyson was a pretty easy baby, but Shayla is a dream! She sleeps really well and is generally happy when she's awake. She loves to watch Kyson when he's playing next to us, and he likes to give her kisses which is lovely. She's growing way way to fast for me though. I weighed her last weekend and I think she's now in the 97th percentile. I was meant to have a MCHN apt yesterday but my nurse got called up for jury duty, so our 8 week apt is now going to be when Shayla is 10 weeks. I'm very interested to see what her stats are when we go. I think she's growing quickly because there is so much milk available to her due to Kyson still breastfeeding too. I really love tandem feeding ♥

[MummyNaomi]

BG - I totally know where you are coming from babe, everytime I hear a pg announcement despite my happiness for the expectant mum, it brings up our fertility issues and strikes fear in me that we may not have baby #2. I feel panic, resentment and just plain sadness sometimes. But they are MY feelings and actually have nothing to do with how I feel about the happy news IYKWIM as have been overjoyed to hear when all of our BB girls have announced. Funnily enough I distanced myself from my IRL mothers group here as one just had a baby, 2 are pregnant and the last is TTC and said to me "which one of us will get pregnant first" to which I replied a little curtly "I think we all know it will be you" Arrgggh!! The reason I have pulled back though is that two of them supposedly had 'accidents' the second time around and both have said that wanted baby #2 because they hated going back to work, and both of them 'surprised' their husbands with the "I'm pregnant" announcement even though they have pretty much said to me that they weren't using birth control. Now its none of my business yes, but personally I would never pull that on my husband (like I could anyway!!) - TWO people need to make these decisions!! And seriously, once you have one baby, pretty sure you know how to avoid an accident!!

We haven't moved either - we built here in 2007 and have NO intention of moving for 20 + years LOL. Don't know how you guys manage to pack up a house and toddlers/babies, it was hard enough when we were doing it as a newly married couple hehehehehe

Bailey is starting to tell us AFTER he's poo'd or wee'd, but he doesn't really give us any pre-warning so we have no intentions of starting toilet training for now. I'd rather start later and be successful than put us all through the stress of it too early

Krystie - love re the tandem feeding, I am looking forward to breastfeeding again if we are lucky enough to conceive, I want to BF for longer this time if it all works out Glad to hear Shayla is doing so well, I love looking at her in your FB photo's she is so pretty

Amy - GL with the moving babe, nice to be closer to family, Bailz would love the location from the sounds of it!

Re the Meet up - Does the Sat 9th or Sun 10th (April) suit people better? We have locked in our accommodation in St Kilda now - does a picnic in one of the beautiful parks down there (St Kilda) appeal to others? We are available on both days, I think we hope to go to the Aquarium while there too

We are car hunting - our family car is just costing too much in repairs of late - its 10 years old, its time to upgrade, kinda exciting. Dont want to buy brand new as I think thats a waste of money, but looking to buy a 08 or 09 - Prob a Commodore again. I'm a sedan type of gal

Anyhoo, lets get the ball rolling on locking in our meet up

Nay
x

[briggsy's girl]

we're easy either day - probably prefer saturday cos i have to work monday morning (early) and if e is going to have a bad night after travelling, i'd rather have a day to recover from it lol

[*TripleJ*]

I'm just a quick train ride away

[wysiwyg]

Both days work for us - Saturday probably a slight preference for. St Kilda is good for us.

We haven't moved with bubs, and have no intention of moving for maybe another 4 years (with two little ones in a two bed apartment this may be a challenge but at the moment we are up for it!). I hate moving with a passion, but have done it so many times!

[MummyNaomi]

OKies - lets lock in the Saturday then. I'll move the chatter to the FB event seeing as its off topic here

[briggsy's girl]

OKies - lets lock in the Saturday then. I'll move the chatter to the FB event seeing as its off topic here

pffft what IS on-topic in here! lol

but out of respect to those not coming, I'm happy to move it to the FB event so we don't clutter them up with a load of stuff they dont' want - if you're not interested in reading the stuff in the event, or being notified of what is happening, let me know and we can remove you as admin so you don't get all the updates via email

[MummyNaomi]

pffft what IS on-topic in here! lol

Good Point

[briggsy's girl]

Good Point

tehehehehe i do make them occassionally!

i've been pondering this today though - there is NO off topic - it's about our babies born at that time - there is no rule as to what we are and aren't allowed to discuss is there?