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  1. #1
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    Dec 2006
    Gippsland Vic
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    Hi girls, sorry have been trying to get my BM supply up and feeding Tilly as often as she needs but it is'nt workign and she is now comping nearly every feed, I guess I have been a big stress head over the last few months and a bit of a rough birth with bleeding and the works..so i should have expected to have some issues..I do normally and have'nt had the same issues as this time!!!????

    She lost 500grams, then i took her for a weigh and she had only gained 100 back MHN says she is not getting enough sleep or milk,( I had her on the boob all the time trying to get my supply up and running..thinking i was doing a good job cause she wanted it etc, not really thinking about her lack of sleep) I am so disaapointed and feeling a failure, why won't my boobs do their job??? but i can't afford to add any issues to her kidneys problems.. so comping it has to be.. i will have to get over myself!!!! she is sleeping so much better, actually is milk drunk for the first time since she was born and still looking for boob, but getting a bit lazy and not latching on as well..I am currently waiting for her to wake up..boobs are leaking, and I can't help but think what a waste????

    She has had her kidney US pretty much the same as what they saw through me..biggest cyst is now nearly 5cm, then a few at 2 cms and then 1cm and smaller, they are all jumbled up on top of each other, so they had trouble measureing them all, Tilly was great she slept through most of it and only peeped when she had to get dressed and undressed, she is such a good baby rarely cries.

    We see the pead next week, for full US results and to see what the next step will be, most likely a repeat US next month!!! I am still worried a lot, the MHN says it is hard to pick up if urine is goign back the wrong way and UTI in little babies, so I find myslef wondering allt he time if thigns are well!!! I guess her behaviour would change??? maybe more crying? less sleeping? not much urine? all a guessing game!!!

    I have added a pic of Tilly 2 weeks old after her bath...oh my goodness she looks like her daddy the poor girl...but I still think she is gorgeous!!!

    Hi mum2bxx, I think we may have talked in your previous group..this is my 5th baby and I rmember you meantioning that you DH had other kids.. Baby no 1 is often abig shock, nothing can prepare you for what is going to happen to your life..from lack of sleep to hormones to ouch issues, be that boobs, down there or whatever. My Dh has another 5 weeks off work, sort of enforced leave..it is a bit too long for my liking..he starts to drive me nuts especially when he complains about how tired he is??? or when he makes my job harder by messing up my system or routine..which is oftenpoor boy is trying...BUT!!!!!
    Your feeding sounds like it is going good, you must have a good supply, great he is sleeping like that between feeds...don't worry about them falling asleep on you at this stage they are way to young to spoil..my 19 month old used to fall asleep at the breast until about 6 months on the MHN recommendation I would wait about 15 minutes then transfer her to bed..that is when they are in their deep sleep, neraly always worked, sometimes I would sit and give her a little bottom pat. Crying happens often here as well..for laods of different reasons, sometimes anger, frustration, overwhelmed, sad ad or TV show, so proud of my family (sometiems they just do something so cute..I just start crying!! makes me so glad I had them) look at my gorgoues girl and the miracle that takes place to get her here and CRY!!! So I am the queen of cyring, don't feel alone.
    leesha make the most of your time together...

    Sarah, will get to have alook at you pics after personals I am sure they will be gorgeous, I am very envious..we have some professiinal pics booked for early May, hopefuly Tilly has gained some weight back by then an looks more filled out.
    Becka I love rreading birth stories..you did a great job.. iw ill do mine sometimes soon..more a pregnancy journey and a bit of birth story..a CSections ripps you off in some many ways but then again a lot of people would probablly like to read about it..because you never know when it might happen to you I guess!!!

    Bhoysgirl..big DD has gone to stay at a friends house..I feel a huge failure..BUT???? what can you do!!!! I just hope I have less problems with the rest of tthese kidlets..I keep wondering what I did wrong...but have come to the conclusin that I don't think it was anything in particular, sometimes things just happen and things could be worse..she is'nt doing drugs, drinking etc!!! You just wish them the best life they could have and i feel she is'nt filling her potenial and is'nt as happy as she deserves to be..CRY!!! and

    Kate, how are you doing?? I was wondering last night if you had experinced any of the problems you were worreid about...I hoped not and given the fact you have been on a bit I guessed not. Is Abby doing well? Oh and Tilly arrived at 9.23am if you want to add that detail, why I never iculded that I have no idea??

    Anyway off to wake this baby my nightie is wet and i am not wasting another drop I worked to hard for this milk to let it go to waste in my PJ's.

  2. #2
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    Jan 2009
    Sydney, NSW
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    Sarah - my DH is a workaholic too - I don't know what he is going to do with himself. But he was deployed overseas for the last 6 months of my pregnancy, so it is really nice to have him home.

    Blackduckies - I think you were in my belly buddy group for a while (due the previous fortnight). I really feel for you having feeding issues. I did when I was in hospital (before the milk came in) and the paed said that Angus was dehydrated and so we had to top up with formula. We bought some home, but luckily we haven't had any problems since. It is definately a big shock having your first baby. I get so stressed when he cries and nothing could have prepared me for the lack of sleep (even though I had sleeping issues at the end of my pregnancy). I hope your BF works out - I know how frustrating it is when all that hard work goes to waste. In hospital I expressed for ages just to get 25ml of colostrum and then Angus would bring it all back up after drinking it

    Just wondering how everyone felt after their birth? I've heard that the minute the baby is placed on your tummy, you forget everything.. Well I'm still traumatised by it all and many times find myself in tears just thinking about it Firstly I wanted it to happen by itself, but instead had the gel (but in pessarie form) and then the syntocin drip 12 hours later. Then I wanted a drug free birth, but insead had the gas, pethadine and then the epidural. And lastly, my mother who hung around all day from 7 in the morning, missed out on seeing the birth. She was annoying me just sitting there watching, so I asked her to leave, but she came back after the epidural and then left again when I had to start focusing on my pushing. I asked DH to go and get her, but he couldn't find her. Now I am really annoyed at myself for not asking the nurse to go and find her.

    Oh well, I guess there isn't much you can do about it all now. But I really don't think I'll be in a mad rush to do it all again!

  3. #3
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    Feb 2008
    Tassie NW
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    Pam: That so suck about BF issue. It's stranges as you have people who are willing to BF and you have issue, yet I know people who refuse to BF their baby from the moment it is born and they could probley feed they just don't want to experience the pain that goes with it.
    I am a little shocked they haven't done anything to her already beside an US. I hope nothing happens to the cyist while you waiting to see Dr's.

    Mum2BB: Gee, I would hate to a do a pregnancy by myself. So many emotions run around I def needed my husband just to help with this like pushing me out of bed when I got stuck trying to do a toliet run during the night.
    I felt great after the birth, however I am still traumatised from my first DD and that was 11 years ago. I haven't forgotten, and regardless of what people tell you it is a scared experience on with alot of pain which to me, I didn't want to go back to, 'cos of the pain. I would have 20 children if you didn't have to expeience the pain... But seem you do have to during pregnancy and child birth and after, no thanks the is it for me.. (gee I hope those words don't come back to bit me)..

    Well Kendell was a NIGHTMARE last night. The first time, and for most of the morning. She was just up and down, give her boobie, she will be asleep within a minute then put back to bed, she would be up 5-10minutes later. She is down now along with DS2 and was hoping I could get a nap in but the house cleaner came today, so I am putting her naughty behaviour down to a stranger in the house when it was her rest time this morning.

    Anyway I better get going I can hear her stirring now, and want to grab something to eat...

  4. #4
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    Feb 2007
    Ma hoos
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    This is going to be a bit of a random post, so apologies for the bits that won't make sense - blame it on baby brain (as opposed to pg brain)

    Pam - huge for you, what a hard time you're having. You probably already know this, but just in case you don't, and you were trying anything to improve supply, the combo of Fenugreek & Blessed Thistle tabs, plus flaxseed oil tablets might help. I've been taking just the fenugreek & blessed Thistle combo (brand is "herbs of Gold", breastfeeding something or other on the label), and I reckon it's definitely doing something. The feeding is just mental - Owen doesn't have the weight issues that Tilly is having (quite the opposite), but I've been really struggling to feed him from the LHS, so been just expressing from that side & feeding from the rhs. Has made me completely off kilter, to the point where I can rarely even hear or say the word bf without crying. Have you got a pump to capture the bits that you're leaking, so that you can use that up before switching to the comp feed? That would also help your supply too....It's also still early days too, which I'm finding hard to remember sometimes, so I have to remind myself that they're not even 3 weeks old yet, so not to expect that they'll feed like a 6 month old or even a 6 week old, they're still learning and so are we in a way, in that we've never had these babies before, if that makes sense.

    Mum2Bxx - I think I know where you're coming from re the birth issues. For me, seeing O for the first time and touching him was magical, and it hasn't stopped, he's the equal best thing that's ever happened to me (along with his brother), but when I think about some of the aspects of his birth I get really teary. I was really hoping for a VBAC, but he managed to wrap himself tightly in the cord, so was never going to make it out naturally, and even though there was absolutely nothing I could have done about it, it still makes me sad. That and the fact that the only day my OB had off over Easter was the one that I went into labour on, so I had a perfectly lovely but completely unfamiliar OB pull him out, instead of my OB, who I just love. And for some reason, that's also making me really sad, especially as there won't be a number 3... The thing that I would say is that these feelings generally fade over the next few weeks/months, as things become a little easier & more routine, and you're not feeling so completely exhausted. Being tired seems to make the difficult things seem even more overwhelming, but it annoyingly doesn't enhance the good things.

    Also, re your little one's sleeping- I'm with Pam, they're way too little to spoil, and they're not capable of putting on an act to manipulate at this age, so giving them all the comfort that they need to settle is only going to benefit them, and probably benefit you as well. IMHO, it's a great way to really get to know them & increase your intuition about what they need, if that makes sense. Again, IMHO, feeding to sleep can often be more of a problem for other people - my eldest always fed himself to sleep, and after a few weeks I worked out how to transfer him into his bassinette/cot to continue on with the sleep, just takes a little bit of practice & trial to find out what works for you, if that's the way you go.

    Re the crying - there's a Pinky Mackay book "100 ways to calm the crying", I personally love her style, so would highly recommend getting a copy of it. But like lots of other things, you do learn what the different cries mean, and it does get easier, plus after the 8-9 week mark they gradually start to cry less. Your DH sounds like he's pretty helpful at times - calming him in a sling is great, and really good for Dad's to be involved with comforting them.

    well, that's about enough from me - some tool in our street is playing around with a really noisy motorbike. I guess I should be grateful that it's 2pm , not 2am, but I do want to go out an yell at them for being inconsiderate...

    Hope everyone else is doing ok.

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    Oct 2007
    Middle Victoria
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    Mum2Bxx- I am so sad at how my birth turned out. I guess that's why i have been quiet. Don't feel ready to talk about it yet. I believe my hospital has a birth debriefing service and when i am ready i will take them up on it. Your hospital may have something like this.

    Had a visit from the MCHN today, and our little one is doing well. I have an oversupply of milk at the moment, so have to be careful of draining the breast properly. I have to express a little at the start or her head almost comes off! I had a couple of lumps this morning, and have been feeling crook, so the MCHN wants me to watch out for mastitis. It might just be that i have a bug, at the same time as the lump.

    My neuro condition is still playing up abit since the birth, and DH has been great in helping, especially at night. Our little one had an unsettled arvo/night yesterday but has been quite content today. It's like she knws when she can play up, and when we need a break.

    take care,

    Kate

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    Jul 2009
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    Just sneaking in here to say a massive CONGRATULATIONS to all of you ladies on your new precious little ones, hope all is well.

  7. #7
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    Feb 2007
    Ma hoos
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    Back again, waiting for O to wake up so that he can have a bath - he will know that I'm waiting, so I'm expecting that he won't wake until probably 11...

    Kate - oh the joys of BFing I'm not trying to scaremonger, as I'm sure you're onto it anyway, but sometimes mastitis can present a lot like a cold/flu, so keep an eye on it and take yourself to the dr sooner rather than later if you need to.

    Star - lovely to hear from you, so happy to see that your ticker is progressing nicely, hope the remaining few weeks are good ones, and look forward to a BA in due course

    Sarah - we must have posted at about the same time. Hopefully Kendall is having a better night tonight. I'm a bit envious of you having a house cleaner, even if it is only for a short time.

    Well, for the first time in a week or so, I've finally managed to feed from my LHS, still not the best but it was manageable, so hopefully we're getting back on track with it all. Touch wood, O has been really placid so far, only time he really lets rip is when it's food time, then it's like his throat has been cut, but once he gets what he wants, he calms right down again. I'm really looking forward to the first smiles, cos his practice ones are so adorable. He's very cuddly as well, so I'm making the most of that, and doing lots of HAB wearing.

    Anyway, enough from me, falling asleep as I type, so going to try to grab a nanna nap while I wait for him to wake up.

  8. #8
    murraysmum Guest

    hey girls we just got out of hospital today bella was a wee bit jaundance so she was on the bilibed

    the birth was so fast all up about 4 hrs

    had a nasty tear second degree due to a stuck shoulder but other then that the midwives were god sends dp was there for the whole birth so proud of him

    having some probs with murray he isnt sharing the attention well but we will get there

    i also stufed the time up she was born ten to 12 not midnight lol the gas and air made me dopey lol