Alison - just on your frustration with DH, totally understand! I would be the same. Maybe you could drive to the airport, as Willow suggested? Otherwise, I think BS's approach works. Men don't usually respond to emotional threats, if you know what I mean. Us women are fuelled by emotions (and hormones right now!) and men are usually much more 'tell it like it is'. So, if you sit down and speak to him without showing anger etc, and reason with him, you may get a better response?
This is so something you don't need right now!!
Willow - thanks for the info on the nappies. I'm always threatening to try some so may investigate! How is baby Harry today?
Hannah - LOL on the poo talk. Isn't it funny how things change? Glad you've got a solution though, must take a weight off your mind. Or should that be shoulders? Baby brain!
I'm really interested in this Dunstan Baby Language. If I get time today I'll look it up. I remember seeing that woman on Oprah years ago and always thinking I'd use it when I had a baby. Clever stuff.
Lilyzara - how did you go last night with the little one?
Everyone else - hugs to you all!
ATM - Jack is sleeping a lot lately. I even rang mum asking what was wrong with him, but it seems he's very healthy and just wants to sleep. Maybe he's growing or something.
Oh, and I can't remember if I've asked you guys this before, but how long is your average feed? Since birth Jack has been a five-minute feeder. It's a really long feed it it goes for 7 minutes. I must admit thought that he gulps and gulps and gulps, which makes people laugh when they hear it. I used to worry because I thought it was too short but he is certainly putting on weight (6.3kg!!) and has plenty of wet and pooey nappies. Plus he's a happy bubby. But it just seems so quick!
One of the magazine houses just called asking if I'd do a late notice job for them - I love being able to do this stuff from home. Makes it so easy. I'll be on throughout the day. Gotta run!! xx
Hi Carmey So far so good today with Harry I'm thinking of going into work for a visit this afternoon, I hope that doesn't turn things for the worse later!
I think Jack could give Harry a few feeding lessons!!! Pleeease! LOL Harry can take up to an hour to feed sometimes more (he usually takes both breasts) he gulps to for the first few minutes then slows down when my flow slows a bit and just leisurely feeds for what seems like forever. Don't get me wrong I love feeding him but quick feeds would be great seeing as he feeds so frequently, he only really sleeps for 1/2hr to an hour between feeds then it's an hour to feed plus change and sometimes change twice if he throws up on himself ...If Jacks happy healthy and gaining weight then he's doing great and taking all he needs in the 5-7mins, I envy you!
Am feeding so will have to be quick, I get such sore back and shoulders trying to type these days my OT said no more!
Hi Carmey - I just watched that Dunston Baby Language DVD yesterday, my health care nurse from mothers group lent it to me last week. It's really really good, so simple yet so right! In a nutshell this is what they say the cries mean:
Neh - hungry
Ouw (sounds like ouch without the ch and their mouth forms an oval shape) - tired
Eh - Wind (needs simple burping)
Aire (sound like air) - Lower Tummy wind pain
Heh - Uncomfortable
Try it girls, you'll be surprised at the sounds as they are spot on!!!!
Going to visit a friend who had a bub 2 days ago this morning so will write back persies later.
A quickie before I get on the eliptical machine. Trainer said to do half hour a day until I see him for my first lesson Monday...I am getting so depressed, I pouted all last night with DH reassuring me that I was not a whale and that he would not go sleep with some random bimbo...lol...I had a stupid night last night. I am having a hard time DTD as it hurts then I feel sore afterward and I just feel so fat, so it makes me worry about my relationship at the same time - I am being stupid and I know it, but DH is used to having a lot with me and now I am just not in that zone. I keep telling myself I can't please everyone and everything and still get my hair washed! but some days are just harder than others...
Carmey, Eva feeds about 10 minutes when she is being efficient, and sometimes takes more but usually no more than 30 minutes MAX...if she has gas and needs burping or something...so Jack is fine and I think you shoul dbe glad - he is a super efficient feeder Eva makes gulping and gasping noises too and people thingk that is just hilarious...a bit more difficult in public since people look when they would not have done so otherwise!
Tilda, I hear you on the poo convo - we discuss poo instead of politics these days! Even over the table, and if we have guests they just think that is hilarious! Thanks for saying I give great adive. I am not sure if my way of seeing things works for everyone, but I tend to be VERY rational (not last night though) and "think like a man" so I manage my relationship with DH in a pretty straightforward way. I always find it better to get what you want by having him "come up" with the idea himself - lol...But every DH is different, much like our little bubs.
Willow, I hear you on the unsettled bub! Eva is just not a dozer! She sometimes gives me a decent stretch in the afternoon (and then it will be like a 4 hour whopper!) but most of the time she doesn't want to sleep. She has little naps all day but wants to be awake, walked around the house, talked to etc...I am ok with that but I can't get a shower in if no one is here to take her for half and hour...and never mind washing my hair! It is exhausting, but my mother is sure she will have lots of character...I can probabmy be sure she will be a girl with a lot of fire, which is better than no personality at all I was always a lot to habndle, so I can't expect my daughter to be any different Have you tried a swing or anythig like that? My parents brought me over an electric swing and a vibrating bouncer from NY (sales!) and I have to say the swing is a lifesaver! She will stay in there for an hour and watch the mobile then doze off letting me have breakfast etc...I try not to use it often but I find that she loves it after her morning change/feed...Maybe you can try something like that with Harry? If you know friends who can lend you one to try before you buy that would prob be ideal...The vibrating bouncer is also great and it is small so we leave it in the living room or at our feet when online (she is dozing in it now)...she always wants to be in on the action so we found that it is a good alternative to putting her in another type of non vibrating chair...it is easy to move around and plays music...you can get those really cheap so maybe it is an option?
Lilyzara, I had the same thing for a long time with eva...My adive, which worked for me, but does not necessarily mean it is the problem for you...is to make sure she drains a full bvreast and gets the hindmilk (has her poo been green or frothy? if so then she is not getting hindmilk which gives gass and the feeling of always being hungry)...give her a night schedule - a bath EVERY DAY at 7pm then a feed, then a rock to sleep for example...Eva settles nicely now and even gets tired if I am half hour late on her bath, so I know she is starting to get the rythm. I drink fennel tea - it is an infusion of fennel and is said to calm colicky babies, and it has worked wonder for Eva with her poo and her sleep...Otherwise, maybe a swing or something would help a bit.
Eva had those bouts of colic too, it gets better. just try your best to find a position she likes - Eva is partial to being held upright and being walked around the house looking at lights mirrors being talked to CONTSTANTLY...do her baby aerobic - folding the legs into the belly and putting light pressure, bicycle legs etc...you'd be surprised at the gas that comes out of a baby! Otherwise, don't stress because it only makes things worse...try to stay as calm as you can (earplugs might help ) and she will be calmer.
Good luck and let us know if there are any other particular things going on...maybe we have gone through it.
Alison, hope you're not still mad at DH Carmey is right, you really don't need this stress right now, so I hope he gets that...Good luck for tomorrow at the funeral - I hope it is not too depressing for you.
ps - i typed so fast to be able to finish a post and made a ton of awful spelling mistakes, but no time to correct anything! Time is of the ESSENCE! so excuse me ladies!
Hi BS The swing sounds good I'll have to have a look around for one, I don't really know anyone who might have one to borrow, but I'll check them out. Harry is starting to have more awake time through the day where he doesn't just want to eat, but that's the hard thing when he's awake he's mostly eating so I'm stuck in a chair feeding. I know exactly what you mean about the shower...or lack of! And hair washing, well that's quite the luxury now
Harry behaved well when we visited work yesterday which was good, everyone loved him.
BUT last night he went back to 2 hours of inconsolable screaming I've been wracking my brain trying to think if there was anything different on the 2 days he didn't scream, but I just can't think of anything
Carmey, 5 minute feeds!!! Wow, I wish Matilda was that efficient. Often she'll feed for 20-30 minutes, but if she's being fussy it can take an hour for her to get those 20 or 30 mins on the breast. If jack is happy and is gaining weight, I can't imagine its a problem. Amazing how diiferent all of them are.
Willow, glad you've had a better couple of nights. It must be wearing if Harry has an inconsolable period every day. But as you point out they're not little for long. Which is sad too. You're previous experience must give you a lot of perspective.
Lilyzara, great to have another mum on board. Its a great place to get some reassurance and as you'll probably notice from the posts most of us have babies that are unsettled at some period during the day. Its such trial and error trying to work out what works. How long is she staying up for? Is it possible that she's getting overstimulated and overtired. Matilda is a huge one for staying up to long and getting cranky as a result.
Alison - hope things went OK with DH last night. Glad everything went well with the pediatrician. Isn't it amazig the little things they pick up these days like Amelia's chin. I'm sure no one would have noticed when we were babies.
BS - you've always got such great advice!
Hannah - the fascination with conistency, colour and frequency of poo was something I wasn't prepared for either. Not to mention the very serious discussions DH and I have over the chnage table about the consistency, frequency and colour of the poo LOL.
AFM - We had a very good night after a very trying day yesterday. Matilda was pretty much awake from 12 till 10 at night last night with a couple of 30 second kips on the breast during the day. Not sure if it was a hang over from the immunisations or was the nilstat drops which have sugar in them. I'm spacing the nilstat out a bit more today to see if that hepls. So far so good. I hope the nilstat works because I don't want another week of this while we try another medication. Looking forward to seeing what the pediatrician says on Monday. Well I'm going to try and get a shower and wash my very greasy hair before my physo appointment. Hugs to everyone.
It's taken me ages to read the whole thread and I'm bound to forget someone or something.
Here goes...
Firstly, to re-introduce myself. I'm another one of the 1-15 Dec Belly Buddies who had her baby in November. Ryan James was born 15:10 on 27/11/09, naturally with no drugs and a small vaginal tear, 52cm long, 3.8kg and 34cm head (lighter than his big brother but the same length). My labour started at 6pm the night before, but my contractions never really got going until my waters were broken and Ryan arrived 1 hour 10 minutes later. He's my VBAC baby who was determined to enter the world 12 days early, just like his big brother so they could both be born on the 27th. My 2 year old was born by emergency c-section due to undiagnosed breech position. My recovery has been much better this time around.
Hi to all my belly buddies and welcome to the newcomers! Thanks for the welcome to the new thread. It sounds like all the bubs are growing nicely and everyone is surviving the sleep deprived hormonal and emotional rollercoaster that is new motherhood
Lani - 8 hours? Whoo hoo! Hope Jett keeps it up for you and sounds like the Infacol is doing the trick. Don't be jealous of my month away, I spent the whole time chasing my toddler, am exhausted and have come home for a holiday!
Tilda - My DH is keen to go again too, but we haven't managed to DTD yet. I'm like you, not keen to start surfing the Belly Buddies again just yet... Good luck with the dummies. Hope Matilda settles for you.
Brussels - I feel for you with Eva having reflux! My best friend's DD had it and she had an awful time. Congratulations on moving back into your apartment! Good luck with the self settling, it's not for everyone. I thought I had the knack of it with DS1 Craig, but found myself rocking him to sleep at 12 months! I'll have to dig up my sleep notes, but I think anything goes with settling in the first 3 months so don't worry too much. I'm sure DH thinks you're beautiful and isn't running off with some hussy Isn't it funny how our brains work? My DH has been avoiding DTD because he's put on a lot of weight, not because I'm still carrying baby fat. We took Craig to an Osteopath and it helped with BF. That's awesome about your elliptical trainer. You inspired me to hop on the Wii Fit yesterday. I want to run again like you and Carmey, but I think I'll work my way up to it.
Willow - The swing sounds like it's doing the trick. When things get easier with Harry do you want to meet up? With 2 little ones I just go out and will BF anywhere if I have to, otherwise I'd never leave the house! We went to the Hyperdome on Friday to meet one of my workmates with her 1 month old daughter, but spent nearly the entire time in the parents room as her little girl was feeding 1-2 hourly. But it was still good to get out.
Alison - How's the supply going? That's great that she's sleeping. Swimming classes are fun, I kept forgetting the nursery rhymes too, don't worry you're not the only one Amelia sounds like a tall girl. Vent away girl, that's what we're here for! I'm sure your DH didn't realise he was being insensitive to you by helping the UK visitor out, but I understand how it made you feel. Did you find a new pram? I have a 3 wheeler Swallow Beema (it was ranked no 1 by Choice) from DS1, but it has no option for a toddler seat. In hindsight I should have gotten the Phil and Ted's but can't face forking out that much cash for another pram now. I've been putting Ryan in the Baby Bjorn and Craig in the pram. Hope you find another one that you like.
Kanda - Glad to hear you're surviving with 2! Thanks for posting your birth story and I hope you have healed at least a little bit physically and emotionally. I'm finding the baby is a breeze but the toddler is hard work! That's great that Sienna is easier than Lila was. I find the constant demands for attention really draining. Caig just wants to cuddle and pat Ryan all the time. If I'm BFing he wants to sit on my lap too and if Ryan is in the pram he tries to climb in there. I wish I had the Phil and Ted's!
Rose - Isn't the 'talking' adorable? Ryan and I had a big old chat last night before he fell asleep. He tries to mimic my faces and is a lot more chatty than I remember Craig being. How are you doing now, from your last post you sounded like you were feeling a lot better.
Hannah - Motherhood feels so lonely sometimes, but we're here for you. Sorry you're having such a hard time with your Mum, Amelia and DH.
Carmey - Wow, I thought about doing the bus thing on Friday but chickened out and drove instead. I just wasn't game enough to do it with 2 kids. I'm also too chicken to starting running again, even jogging for 1.5km you are my hero! Ryan seems to have a similar feed/sleep pattern to Jack with the same times. We also do the feed, bath, story and sleep at night with Ryan and Craig.
Lilyzara - Welcome! We're a chatty bunch here
AndiE - How are those boys treating you?
Beany - Great to see you post. Sorry to hear about your MIL, how's her treatment going? It must've been great for you to have your Mum here, when does she fly back?
Hope I didn't forget anyone. Sesame? How are you doing?
AFM - We left for our on-site caravan on the 28th of December. It was really nice to be able to swim, waterski etc even though I could only do short stints of anything. I'm exhausted because I had to have eyes in the back of my head with Craig taking off and running all over the caravan park. I forgot the nipple shield one day when we were out and have been BFing for at least 2 weeks now without it. I hopped on the scales with Ryan yesterday and he weighs 6.4kg! We missed his 8 week immunisations while we were away so I have to do that next week. I'll get it done it in the morning and take him straight home for a quiet day in case he's unsettled. My stitches from my tear have healed, but we haven't managed to DTD yet. I might have to make the first move and DH is feeling down about his weight. I have 3kg left to lose and got on the Wii Fit yesterday to start making an effort to get some fitness back. It's great to be back home and able to do washing, shower and go to the toilet without having to use public facilities in a caravan park. Sadly, all my big tropical fish died because my auto fish feeder ran out of food and I didn't know we'd be away that long. DH renovated the caravan by putting in a new kitchen and floating floor, but it was so hot it took us ages to finish. It's pretty much done now, but I don't know when we'll be back there to finish it off.
Kisses to all the bubs and hugs to all the Mummies.
Last edited by *suz1*; January 31st, 2010 at 09:44 AM.
Hi Lani - yay Jett for going 8 hours, he's such a good boy.
Hi Suz - we have missed you heaps but sounds like you had a lovely break, good on you! Go you for only having 3 kgs to lose that's fantastic, I have about 6 or 7 kgs to lose My feeding is pretty much the same as before, my supply hasn't increased although my fault, I keep forgetting to take the Fenugreek 3 times a day, it's hard to remember anything let alone that. Must get better at it. I'm seeing the OB tomorrow for my check up now he's back from leave so I might ask him about the Motiliam (sp?) - I should give the natural ones a good go first. Amelia feeds about 10 mins each side and then she has 120 mls of formula, I'm onto 6 feeds a day with her last feed around 9.30 pm give or take half an hour. As for the pram, DH came home with some cash from a job he did the other day and said I can go buy the pram I want! I still feel guilty though considering the one I have is new and there's nothing wrong with it, I just want a different one LOL....what a pram snob huh! I have my eye on the Steelcraft Strider Plus as it has a toddler attachment. Has a $650 pricetag however Considering I spent $400 on the other one I feel like it's such a waste but even Paul said this morning to Amelia, we're going to give you a brother or sister and I was like WTF!!!!! ha ha, steady on boy steady on. Guess I'll be needing that toddler seat after all then! DH has the attitude, if you want it buy it because he's been financially comfortable for a few years thanks to working his butt off, whereas I come from a single parent household, had a mortgage on my own etc so have the thought process of not wasting money. But I still want it so have to decide don't I!!!!!!
AFM - Well we had our 2nd 8 hour night in a row and am stoked! I do find I still wake a couple of times expecting her to wake up though, can't win LOL. I think we'll have to try her in her cot tonight, she's gotten too big for the bassinette, this morning she was sideways in it with her head and feet touching either side! I feel sad about going to the cot, hope she doesn't mind it! She's cheeky during the day though, she falls asleep on you easily but the minute you put her down she opens her eyes! She's on DH's chest atm and he moved so she opened her eyes, so he was still there and shut them again!!!! Oh and the girl from work that I have spoken about a lot (the one who complains a lot) had her baby last night. How weird is this, so similar to my story, she was due on the 29th, had her on the 30th (same as me), born at 10.16 pm (Amelia was 10.26 pm), 3.2 kgs (Amelia 3.5 kgs), 51 cms (Amelia 52 cms) and guess what, she also had to have a c-section in the end as she wasn't dialating!!!!!! So bizarre. The crack up is though, she text me this morning and she's already complaining that she only got 1 hours sleep last night and the nurses are noisy......hee hee - get used to it! She had the same OB as me and same hospital, I can just see the nurses trying to change shifts, she will be a nightmare! She called her daughter Georgia Kaitlyn, quite a girlie name considering her herself is quite tomboy, she hates pink too ha ha. DH thinks it's a weird choice given her husband's name is George, he said it would be like us calling Amelia Pauline (his name is Paul). Anyway, I have the OB tomorrow for my check up now he's back from holi's and he's across from the hospital so I'll go see her. I bet Amelia will look huge against a newborn!!!!
How is everyone else going, do you find the days all melt into one? I used to look forward to weekends, now I have to ask what day it is ha ha!
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