Babies born~November 16th-30th 2009 #4

[~Stoked~]

Thanks so much girls!!! AS IF I'd ever leave you guys! I love you all so much!
I'm on iPhone, it's a pain, but wanted to say that I'll never stray from you guys!! Haha! But I did join my new belly buddies group and am feeling more excited every day!
Glad you and Amelia are feeling better Alison..
Can't remember what the rest of you wrote so I'll post again tomorrow xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[nattyfred]

Hi Ladies!

Oh Kymmy Im so happy for you! In a way Im jealous but in another way I dont think I myself could do it again so soon seeing as I struggled a fair bit with V. I am however soooo excited for you xx

Alison, Im glad you and Amelia are feeling better now. Nothing more horrible than a sick bubba and it doesnt help when you are sick yourself...

Madame I love the name! Where did it come from? I hope you have an online option too You are so busy I really admire how you can juggle so many things!

Alicia, Cruz sounds like he is doing so well! And getting teeth all over the place lol I can wait for Vs seing as Im not too keen on her chewing on my boobs lol. I have given V pumpkin, potato, broccoli, sweet potato, carrot, banana and this vege soup with bacon in it that I made for my diet lol, she looooves it and it has heaps of parsnips in it amongst other things so she is getting a good range now....oh and rusks although she doesnt get too far with them. Good luck with the daycare, V starts 1 day in July too, just to get her used to the idea and we can iron any dramas out before next year when I go back full time....NOT looking forward to it at all....

Suzi thanks for that info and congratulations on going under 80kg! What a good feeling you must have I on the other hand dont think I will have any loss this week, I have exercised but have maybe not eaten very well this week....Hmmm must get onto that...

Hi everyone else!

So a bit about me now lol..

V is getting usd to going down on her own but it can be a bit of a struggle at some moments.. I feel like a great weight has been lifted off my shoulders though, cuddling her to sleep used to take so long and now I can get things done around the place that I had to let slip before. Tonight she wouldnt settle on her own so I sat in her room and rocked her and it took only 5 mins and she was gone, usually it would take 2 hours or so of cuddling and feeding in the evenings, leaving me exhausted when she actually did go to bed.

I washed a few little tracksuits today so I can start rugging her up a bit now it is getting cold here now. I have been keeping an eye out for sales etc but its so hard to anticipate her size. She is still in some 000 but also some 00 aswell. Most things I have to roll up the little arms anyway...

Shes pretty much able to sit on her own if I put her there but does a face plant at some point along the way lol..Oh I also changed the car seat around... She was really struggling in it the other way around, she would go as stiff as a board and it was so hard to put her in so I made the call. Its still reclined a bit so her neck is not strained but I still know I have done it too early... I really think she is better restrained this way as she doesnt fight it and I can get the straps on her properly. Hmmm I can convince myself of anything if I try hard enough....

Anyway Im going for a bit of a browse then off to bed, Dh has gone to the footy so I have a night in by myself so I might go have an early night.

xxx

Natty

[*suz1*]

Congratulations Kymmy!!! WOW. Here's to a happy and healthy 9 months!!!

[~Stoked~]

Hey Girls,

How are you all!?

I am feeling sooo tired! Went to an engagement party last night, only stayed for a couple of hours, as we had Archie with us, but i am knackered today! First sigs of pregnancy i guess! Archie has been great lately. Last week he was very grumpy (teething) but he seems fine this week, and i THINK i can feel his first tooth but am not 100% sure! He is such a little darling! I'm so lucky to have two awesome kids... they are both angels.

Natty: i know how you feel about the cuddling to sleep issues! Archie will occasionally put himself to sleep but most of the time he will only go down if i lay with him! FRUSTRATING! I will have to get him out of that quick smart!

Telly: Your hair looks soooo nice! You are such a hotty! Beautiful skin and eyes... i'm jealous, i'm all pasty! haha! I actually own my own spray tan machine! It's the only way i tan! haha!

Mel: Have you done the 13 month age gap? I'm a bit nervous!! I even had a dream about twin prams last night! hahaha! It must really be on my mind! Gosh, i still can't believe it......

Sarah: I hope you are next too!!! Lets do it together again! hahaha!

Alicia: Cruz sounds like he is doing so great! You sound like such a happy little lovey dovey family! It is great to hear!! Well done babe xx

Shayna, Mon, Angela, Bec, Suz, Alison (and anyone else i may have missed???) Hope you are all well x

And thankyou again to you all for all your nice words of congrats! It means alot... I feel so supported by you guys

I am actually starting to feel excited now! Still in shock, but excited! Don't know how much longer i am going to be able to hide it cos my tummy is already popping out (as it did with Archie!), No wonder i gained a couple of cms last week! hahahaha! I was a bit puzzled as i had been exercising!

Have a lovely rest of Sunday ladies xxxx

[Arimeh]

Mel: Have you done the 13 month age gap? I'm a bit nervous!! I even had a dream about twin prams last night! hahaha! It must really be on my mind! Gosh, i still can't believe it......

Nah mate, there is just under 19 months between DS and DD1, and just under 16 months between DD1 and DD2 - so not 13 months, but not too far off it. You'll be fine

Oh, and twin prams are good, I have one here that my aunty gave me, its old but it still works. I usually put the girls in it, and carry DS on my back. Or I have DS and DD1 in there and carry DD2 - I try to take turns carrying them, just so they all get some special mummy love.

Hi to everyone else - been busy at the gym so haven't really had a chance to sit down and go through all posts (Sorry, slack I know) plus I've been trying to cut down on BB time lately and trying to spend a lot of time with the kids - and trying to keep my house clean, its an ongoing struggle to fit everything in!!

In saying that, I have washing to do and have to finish the washing up, clean up the loungeroom and sweep the floor before going to bed. And I'm already exhausted!!

Much love to all - hope you are all well xxxx

[~Serenity~]

Kymmie niesha and hunter are 14 months apart and I didn't find it hard but compared to a younger mally nothing seems hard lol

Mally had his first aus kids footy game today and was a champ he was so good the coach asked if he played before but he hasn't lol he got the ball heaps!!!!!finally all this energy going to good use, I think I may have a future captain for the dockers on my hands

[tellytubby]

hello lovely ladies!

Kymmy - You're too kind! You ladies always make me feel so special, i love you all Yep, I am really happy with my hair too, it's a shame it will probably be another 7 months before i get the time to go in again, but for now, i'm really enjoying it! Last night I had a wedding, so got very fancy in a nice ****tail dress (where those photos were taken). My boobs looked great in it, hahaha! DH was very proud! And by the end of the night.. holy cow.. literally, cow! lol! They were definately eye catching! teehehe! I felt very sexy indeed!
Yep, definately explains the extra cm's you gained last week despite your exercise.. gosh! I can't believe its really happening! I've got excited nervous butterflies in my tummy for you! Does that make sense?! Geez anyone would swear it was me! I even had a dream last night that i was up the duff and you and I were in the same bb thread again too (yes i know.. i even dream about my bb girls, haha ) Tiredness is definatley the first sign. How many weeks are you?? You should get a ticker so i can be in the know! Hope you dont get too sick.. But just a little so you know everything is good, iykwim. Have you told your bestie yet?? We're all here for you! and want to be filled in on EVERYTHING k!? Will you find out the sex this time aswell???? hmm... I'm picking a ... GIRL!

Mon - Awesome awesome news that mally is doing so well in his footy! woohoo! Little champion in the making. I bet he is just loving it! I even bet jose is loving it! haha! I was going through your photos the other day too.. gosh how much serenity has grown! She is truly THRIVING! You are such a fantastic mummy, you must be soooo proud! xx

Natty dont stress about the car seat - you're her mummy, no one else! She will be fine! I remember Kaili was HORRIBLE facing backwards too. I was thinking to myself earlier this week actually how lucky i am, cause theo is such a good traveller. Then today we took DDs seat out and put it in the other car (DH was taking her to a homeshow expo, i was taking DS to lunch with me) and he was not happy jan! Then i realised its not necessarily that he's a great traveller, its that he has his big sis chatting to him 24/7, so there's no need to cry! haha! V sounds like shes a little tropper with her sleep! I think i should pull my finger out too, or i'll end up with another kaili. But its so hard isn't it.. there's nothing more beautiful than cuddling them to sleep.. nawww soo precious. (yep, im a sucker!) And woohoo on the dummy too!! That really surprised me! Theo isn't a dummy man either.. but after reading your post im thinking.. hmmm, perhaps he is?

Alison - i never recieved the email on self settling? telina_jacobson@hotmail.com would you be able to give it another go please? thank you x I know what you mean about the germs at daycare.. eew. Im the same 100% The only 'care' i hope to put our kids in will be kindy.
But you know, in regards to germs - they say (whoever 'they' are, lol), that the best thing you can do for kids when it comes to 'building their immune system' is to have a family dog! So you've got your bases covered! hehe! Do you have any plans to head back to work now? its a tough decision hey.. sounds like you are in the same frame of mind i was after having dd. I knew we were going to have another baby, sooner rather than later, so found going back to work a bit pointless. We were lucky enough that DH has a steady paying job, and with the right budget we can afford for me to be a SAHM. which i just LOVE!

Alicia - Hey beautiful! Just so you know, you ALWAYS make me either smile or chuckle! I just love reading all your posts xx Thanks for the comments on FB too, milf! woop! I might say you're a bit of a MILF yourself! Cruz is clearly thriving, 9 kilos! holy cow! You're a great mummy, and totally agree with kymmy, it sounds like your little family is so inlove, its just beuatiful. any plans for more cuties? You really should, you're clearly a professional baby maker! haha! Cruz is just devine, i just love him to bits!

Anyway, i best head off.
i planned on writing more, but DH is irritating me asking me if i've finished my novel okay.. it might be a tad long, but hey! I haven't been on for two days!!!


Love you all!
xx

[Arimeh]

Natty - I missed your post about turning the car seat around. I'm a big believer (and supporter) of everyone parenting in their own way - because you are their parent and you know whats best. But in saying that - have you seen this clip? HERE

I changed Aricyn over when he got to 8 kgs - and then I saw this, and I felt sick to my stomach.

I just thought I would bring your attention to this cos I would hate for you to feel the guilt that I did after I saw it - I felt awful!!

FWIW - I got DD1 to sit rearward facing until she was 13 months old, and only changed her because we rented a car and car seat down in tassie and they put it in foward facing, and it was pi$$ing down rain and we just wanted to get in the car and out of the rain!

Of course you can tell me to mind my own business and pi$$ off - but I just wanted to save you from feeling any guilt about your decision

Much love xxx

[Alison1973]

Hi Girls,

Well I'm back in the land of the living after the crappiest week ever! Amelia was ill for 5 days all up and I have changed so many nappies it's not even funny! Then I got ill Friday and then yesterday DH came down with it....thank goodness it seems to be a 24 hour thing - except for poor Millie and we're all back to normal today, phew! I had to laugh though, DH said yesterday that he hasn't felt that ill in a long time and I said, well now you know how I felt on Friday while trying to also look after a sick baby, his response was, "you should've told me how bad you were feeling".....I said, well for one I'm not a whinger and secondly why do you think I asked you to come home from work early........twit. He got home Friday at 4.00 pm, yeah, real early! Oh well, at least now he gets it, men honestly!

On the upside I had my weigh in this morning for the 12 week challenge and woo hoo!!!! I've lost 2.3 kgs in 2 weeks....I will add though this last week I didn't do much exercise due to being confined at home whilst looking after a sick bubby but I still ate well and of course then Friday I didn't eat at all because I wasn't feeling well and I did go to the loo 3 times so probably lost a bit there (sorry TMI). But I'm also hoping some of it is carry over from the week before as I had AF when I weighed in that first week. I've also lost 2cms off my waist this week. I tell you what though, it's so motivating seeing the scales finally go down after so long, I should've done something sooner instead of constantly making excuses. All I've really done is cut down on the crap that I put in my mouth, I still have treats just not as many and not as often and of course I'm trying to do a bit more exercise and drink a little more water and a lot less fizzy drinks! I expect to taper off from hereon in but I still have 4 kgs I want to lose so must keep at it.

Hope everyone else had great weekends, better than me anyway lol! Hopefully that's it for us for a little while at least!

Oh and Kymmy, how are you feeling, I'm so excited for you xx

Hi Telly - I've sent you that docco.....your hair is hot! xx

[nattyfred]

Mel I love it when my friends are honest with me, even if it means I get to have my opinion challenged..I think I might change it back
xx

[tellytubby]

hey ladies
forgot to mention that we got dd's ears peirced on saturday! put the numbing cream on first and she didn't even cry! my mum asked her if it hurt and she said "no grandma, its like getting a hair cut", haha! she looks so pretty. also today she went to the wiggles concert, LOVED IT!!! had the best time!

oh also, on another note, "DH" and I have decided to start saving for our wedding! I must say i'm getting pretty excited that we're actually going to get married.. we've been together for 8 years now! probably wont actually happen for a while, but just that we're saving is enough to excite me, haha! Im picking in 2012.. hopefully sooner, but that is probably realistic for us to save enough. We've decided not to tell ppl either, so dont say anything on FB please. We're just one day going to send out invites, lol. would love to see peoples faces when they get them in the mail, haha!

xx

[~Stoked~]

Hello ladies!

Natty: I was about to turn Archie's carseat (cos my BF was pestering me saying it was time to turn him!) but i thought i'd google it first and i'm so glad i did! I came across that clip too Scary stuff huh!? We will be leaving Archie rearward until this baby comes because otherwise Brit won't be able to get in the car

Alison: BOO crappy week! YAY on your weight loss! And can you pretty please email that sleep doc to me too? superdry1@bigpond.com Thanks honey !! xxx

Telly: WOOHOOOO Can i be bridesmaid!?!? How exciting!
Yay on Kaili's earrings! So glad it didn't hurt, Brit didn't cry either and she didn't even have the numbing stuff
So dreaming about me again huh?! haha! I WISH you were in my BB group.... hell i wish all of you were! It feels like i've started at a new school in there! hahahahaha!
Told my bestie (well actually sms'd her a pic of the BFP! hahaha so he didn't know whose it was!) I won't tell you what her words were, lets just say i don't think she has come to terms with her PG yet and she assumed i was feeling the same.. I told her that i am in a bit of shock but i'm happy.. I wish she was happy i suppose it will just take her time to get used to the idea...
I am 4 weeks and 1 day (hahaha) and you have actually just reminded me to get a ticker!! And i will be finding out the sex.... i'm guessing BOY! Seriously guys, my stomach is BIG already.... we are going to have to tell Brit very soon cos she told me a few days ago that i look pregnant ...... AND i have to go to a wedding next week and it is going to be VERY obvious in the dress i was going to wear

Mon: GO MALLY! Maybe he has found his calling! AFL here he comes!!

Mel: You sound like you're doing great with the weight loss challenge! And you are such a good mummy, making sure all your babies get mummy love!

Hello everyone else!

AFM: We had to take our car back to the dealer for some warrantee work to be done and cos we had time to kill we went looking at a baby shop at.......... (drum roll please)..... TWIN PRAMS. Hhahahahahaha! I was shocked that DH even came with me as he only ever stepped foot in the baby shop once whle PG with Archie and it was a VERY quick visit! He really likes the double buggy though which is a relief cos thats the one i like!..... a bit premature, i know, but we just happened to be in the area!
I am getting really tired by the end of the day and have been going to bed earlier than usual... in fact i am about to head there now!!
Brit is going great (and CAN'T wait to get her 'Cute Clippies' in the mail!!) and Archie is great too (the poo explosion he did this afternoon, though, NOT so great!)... has anyone else noticed teething=pooing???

Hope you all have a great night and a great day tomorrow

Love you all xxx

[~Stoked~]

There you go Telly...... Ticker specially for you!

[nattyfred]

Hi Ladies!!!

YYYyaayyy Telly!! Saving means theres a plan.. Do you know what kind of wedding? There are so many options nowdays...I bet Kailis earrings are so pretty, what a brave girl, the sound alone would be a bit scarey for a little one.

Kymmy Im still so excited for you! Did I miss something or was your bestie not exactly "trying"? Yep I dont miss the tiredness of pregnancy, make sure you get dh and Brit to help because you will be sooo tired by the end of the day...Funny how I thought it would be nice and relaxing staying at home with V lol...

Mon, Mally looks like he found his energy outlet lol I love it when little kids get excited about sport, I hope V picks something cool.

How did everyone go with the weight loss? I only lost 300g this week, a bit disappointing but Im still on track for 12kg in 12 weeks. I actually did a sneaky weigh this morning and Id lost a further 300 so I wonder if it will continue or if it was just a poo?

V is doing so well with her sleeping, Yesterday she slept twice...IN HER PRAM!!!!! The one that doesnt face me!!!!! It was time for her nap and I felt bad about eating crap last week so I popped her in and did 5k in the morning and 5k in the afternoon with my friend, and she slept both times! She also went off once in her cot and last night fell asleep while I was having a cuddle so I didnt even wrap her, just popped her in and patted her on the bum till she zonked out 2 seconds later...Easy peasy!

We went to Featherdale Wildlife Park on the weekend and she loved it! DH was amazed that she was so alert and wanting to touch the wallabies and other animals (photos on fb) she even skipped any form of sleep and just was wide eyed and enthalled by the animals..so cute she passed out within seconds of being put in the car. Taking her places is so easy now, I cant believe how much she has changed

Anyhoo I should fold some washing but Ill probably just go check out fb lol

xxxx

[*suz1*]

Hi Girls!

Natty - V sounded so cute at the Animal Park! Don't worry about the weight loss, as you said you're still on track. Yay for V sleeping so well for you and yay for you doing 10k all up with V asleep in the pram! Wow!

Stoked - That's great DH was more interested in the baby shop this time. A twin pram is a great idea with the close gap, it's not too early to be thinking about this stuff. You must be zonked, pregnant with 2 kids, glad you're putting yourself to bed early.

Telly - Whhoooooot!!!! Congratulations on planning your wedding DH and I married on our 10th anniversary of meeting. We've been married 5 years this year. Love the idea of not saying anything and just sending out the invites! Looking great there girl! I have to say your post about getting under 80kg was big inspiration for me on the 12 week challenge!

Mel - Thanks for posting that link about the car seats. We just had a friend tell us that we should be glad we bought the car we did, as another friend rolled the same make/model car on the weekend and the whole family were uninjured. Fact is, we primarily bought the car because DH and I are tall and we needed room for the passenger sitting in front of the rear-facing child seat. I don't know how you find time to do the Gym, housework and entertain 3 kids, you're amazing!

Mon - Mally sounds like a talented boy, glad he's enjoying playing sport

Alison - Well done on your weight loss! You had a shocker of a week with both you and A being sick, then DH too But I'm sure you'll get the exercise in this week and will see even better results!

Sarah - How funny is that, that 'you, alicia, telly and i are all at a very similar weight'?! I just love that all of us, plus Natty, Mel and Alison (and Kym too before she got knocked up) are all in this together I've got to be careful though, I fell pregnant with Ryan when I was trying to lose weight after Craig *chants* please work mini-pill, please work mini-pill, please work mini-pill...

Hi to Alicia, Shayna, Snowy and anyone else I've missed/forgotten/haven't met yet!!!

AFM - Weight loss went much better this week thanks to Calorie King. I told it I'm BF and it gave me 2000 calories a day. Yesterday was the only day I went over and that was because I didn't add up the calories for the dinner I cooked and served myself a portion that was waaaaaay too big. When I was pg I gave all my skinny clothes to charity, thinking I might never be that skinny again. But I kept one pair of jeans and just for fun I tried them on yesterday. They don't just go up over my thighs, they actually do right up! Pity about the big guy that hangs over the top, but I can't believe they actually fit!!! I need a major wardrobe overhaul.

Time to go do something outside with these kids.

[Alison1973]

Hi Kymmy - sure, will send that docco through to you in a minnie. Wow twin prams lol...reality huh. My friend that I met when doing pregnancy aqua had twins and has a now 24 month old, her twins are nearly 7 months old so her daughter was 17 months when they were born. So she has a twin mountain buggy with a toddler seat on top, what a contraption! Seriously though, she is a super mum, never stressed, always smiling, even seeing her feeding the two of them while entertaining the first is amazing, I couldn't do it lol! Shame your friend hasn't come to terms with her PG yet, I can't imagine not be excited but if you're not ready you're not ready I guess. She will though, when she sees that first scan at 12 weeks she will do a complete turn around, I was excited of course but because I had been feeling so sick for that first trimester it wasn't until I saw the 12 week scan that it felt real and I suddenly didn't care about the nausea. Once you see that little being that you have created you have a completely different outlook on it don't you, remember that girls, what an amazing moment....well it was for me anyway, I still look at Amelia and marvel at how she grew inside me, brings tears to my eyes to this day.

Hi Alicia - I love the new park at your house, looks just like what we live across the road from. How ironic. Hows my little Cruz going? xx

Hi Telly - that's so exciting yay, I love a good wedding! I had a lovely day, did most of the organising and making of everything myself with the help of my very crafty sisters - of course it helps that one is an artist and we did the whole day for under $15,000 - sounds a lot but everyone I know is spending around $20-30,000+!!!! Ridiculous. I bought my material from India (100% raw silk) online after picking from swatches they sent me, then I sent the material to a place in China and gave them a picture and they made it! I had a few things done back here by a dressmaker who ironically cost me the most (I had all the bridesmaids dresses done the same way) but my dress with the alterations done here cost me $900 altogether - the one in the shop I copied it from was $2,500! Anyway, can give you the details of the place if you're interested, I've sent heaps of people there for ballgowns etc and everyone has been happy. I found them on Ebay lol.

Hi Natty - I love your piccies of V at the animal park, she's so gorgeous, that hair, Amelia is so jealous!! I lost 1.4 kgs this week, I think mostly because a) I was sick on Friday and didn't eat all day and b) I had AF the weigh in before so I expected to carry some over to this week as I always weigh heavier with AF. I've lost 5cms from my waist in 2 weeks though and I hope that stays that way!!!! Nothing off my hips though, my tummy is the problem area though so expect to lose it from there more.

Hi Suz - well done on your weight loss, isn't it nice to start noticing your clothes fitting better, I haven't tried my normal jeans yet but I put my maternity ones on yesterday and they're starting to fall down! I end up looking like I've pooped my pants because the crutch ends up lower lol. Shame as they're the comfiest jeans but I'd rather be thinner and not wear them thanks! I am tempted to get a smaller pair of these ones though ha ha, they're the most comfy jeans I've ever owned and having the elastic waist thing is so much more comfortable and easier then buttons and zips!

Hi Snowy, Mel, Mon, Madame - hope you are all well!

Well I'm off to have my hair done today, desperately needs a cut and colour refresh.

[Snowy Love]

Mr I has projectile vomited about ten times since 2am. Makes the wierdest noise then out it comes. Its different to how he's been spewing for the last 5 1/2 mths. He's not hot so I don't think its worrysome, but I've been waiting for a wet nappy to make sure he's alright. The last one at 9am had a pink spot. I tried to give him water, but he can't work out how to get it up the straw and idiot me bought a cup with a valve on it (no spill, yeah no drink too!) If the nappy is not soaked when he wakes I'll try with his small open cup.

We went to DH's work BBQ yesterday (Labour day pub hol), but I don't think anyone got too close to him to give him anything. I'll just keep an eye one him.

Got my hair cut on Sunday - first time in 3 mths and I went to Just Cuts rather than the hairdresser I've been going to for the last 5 years. Very happy with the result and paid less than half I would have at the other place - don't look as good as you Telly though!

I've given in to Dr & MCHN pressure and started giving him food - he gets some slices of pear and a toast crust at breakfast (not this morning though) and he loves it! Some's obviously going in 'cause there's something coming out the other end He's also had carrot & broccoli a couple of times when he's been awake at dinner time. One he's really into eating I'm gonna have to move dinner earlier, maybe feed the boys before DH gets home, which I'm not happy about 'cause I think its nice to have dinner as a family. ATM we have dinner at 6:30 (7pm if DH is really late).

I have to go wash his capsule liner as he spewed over it when I took DS1 to childcare. I have to return the caspule on Thursday (its been 6 mths already) so I was going to wash it tomorrow anyway. We took out DS1's old seat on the weekend and put in his new convertible booster and I've cleaned the old seat, which we'll hopefully re-install rear facingtonight (otherwise I can't go anywhere tomorrow).

[Alison1973]

Hi Snowy - I hope Mr I is ok soon, maybe something has just disagreed with him, ie the food? His tummy might be getting used to it still, just keep an eye on him. I sympathise with you though after having a very sick bub all last week, Amelia didn't vomit but I was changing watery pooey nappies every 45 minutes on average for 4 days straight and hardly any wees! She wouldn't take Paedialyte so I just had to get water into her when she'd take it. It's scary isn't it. Wishing him well soon. xx I haven't tried Amelia on food yet, I'm going to wait until she's 6 months old I think.