Clare - thanks for the offer. You know I may be up for that, if they have a few littlies in the mix as well... i would feel a little strange but at the same time it would be good for me. my mothers group the 1st time was good - but there were only 4 of us!! one is now a v v good friend of mine (she looked after N when i was in labour - knows a lot of ppl i grew up with) but the other 2 didnt really stay in touch so we arent really a mums group iykwim. i agree with you it is pretty bad the mach nurse said no to me joining, i mean what harm would it do?? and i agree with you, iw as asking for some social stimulation - i am ok emotion wise at the moment but what if i wasnt and i wa sreaching out? i findit v strange.. i might try again at my 6 wk check up. i do feel more vulnerable this time to be honest and i need to put some structure in place for myself.