hi everyone
Ginger - hope you are having fun in sydney...
i dont think you are crazy - we will def go for number 3 (not sure yet re 3 or 4) in a little bit - not as close as J and N are though! do it!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOni - how did work go?
I am really sorry my computer is playing up so i am finding it hrd to see latest posts etc - it is v strange... i dont know if it is a BB glitch or my comp... odd
All is well here - had outlaws here for the weekend. it is really hot here so we have been having lots of picnics, pool time etc - lots of fun. had the fete at kindy yest - i was on the cake stall. yum!!! they had an awesome kids disco - N had a ball!
J had a temp last night - low level - so i am hoping he is ok. having a homey day today - i have to tidy/reorg the pantry - joy of joys! i think he is coming thru the 4 months regression maybe - aside from when he is upset about something i think his sleep is a bit better... and he rolled over yest.. he is also babbling and giggling so much, delightful.
N is astounding me everyday - yest we reeled off all our extended fam with their relationships to each other - ie Uncle M is daddy's brother - who is his son? it is D, he is my cousin etc etc. who is mummy's mum, it is Booba... etc etc etc amazing!
MP, that is very impressive that N can describe all the relations! Does he get along well with kids his age? I am finding that W doesn't know how to relate to the other kids - he tries to talk to them but they don't understand/can't reply. I feel bad for him. The other week at MG he was really excited and started telling his 'friends' about the millipedes he found at the river but the other kids didn't show any interest - they don't know all the bug names and can't speak in conversation sentences yet. So he went and sat back down by himself. It makes me sad that his attempts at socialising are resulting in him being ignored because the others aren't at his level yet.
And speaking of earlybirds, A is following in W's footsteps. She has been rolling tummy to back since 3.5 weeks, can balance sitting for 5-10 seconds and now she has started rolling from her back to her side and seems rather determined to get all the way over. When I was preg I wondered if she would be as early/smart as W, didn't occur to me that she might be earlier! She isn't interested in staying my little baby
thanks for all your kind words...it was really lovely to read and *know* that you girls are understanding me ITMS thanks xx
MD: DH said the same thing, he told me that i should instead thank little J for giving me the chance to reflect and build from that experience, and when he said that it started to make alot of sense...
as for pool floaty things...no idea LOL! i had the arm things as a kid and really disliked them as i found the loss of control too overwhelming ITMS. and i'm not sure that i will get floaty things for L...watch this space...hoping to get her into classes and we'll see what they need us to have lol.
Arte: ahh but see A has W to watch and learn from! so of course she will be itching to join in the fun! sorry that W is feeling a bit lost, give the kidlets some time and soon they will be finding common ground (this happened to good friends of mine, their son is incredible with his mind and conceptual understandings, and it wasnt until he was 4 that he was able to find some connection with the other kids, in a way it all found a happy balance in that he had to learn to play differently - ie, less rules etc - and it totally calmed him down and he was able to just really enjoy their company - where previously it would just make him frustrated ITMS. and now that the other kids are getting bigger they are alot more interested in his games and ideas...)
MP: wow you have been on a busy spree! i guess it is nice to have the house back to yourselves for awhile! i cannot believe that little J is 4 months!
AFM: well i am feeling ALOT better! thanks again guys, it was lovely to read the posts today...
just took the morning off (DH suprised me this morning and told me to have a sleep in and relax and he took L to kindy etc...so i got out of bed at 10am!!! ...i dont remember the last time i did that LOL!). then a girlfriend from uni called and said to come and see a movie at a cinema near uni that has $6 monday sessions...so went to brunettis for a coffee and a movie (saw the 'imaginarium of dr parnassus...AMAZING!).
we had a belated impromptu 'party' for leila too. the famous 'perfect' cake base came out of the freezer and i finally iced it up and put the farm animals on it...it was beautiful! so so yum! and really easy to ice...no crumbs to ruin the party. i will download them tonight and put it on FB...
Arte, that's probably going to be an issue for him for a little while unfortunately hun And bigger kids will be the same because to them, he's a baby kwim? Before long they will catch up to him. but all you can do is keep nurturing him because he is such a precocious little boy and I'm sure that it wont affect him. Maybe you could look at some type of Montessori or Steiner school for him. I'm sure they would have that type of education over there in NZ.
Last edited by Trillian; November 16th, 2009 at 01:59 PM.
i have 2 sleeping children! i don't know what to do with myself. should really be washing the dishes and packing for tomorrow but thought i would quickly jump on here and see what the latest is. much more fun!!!
clare- glad to hear you're feeling better, you are such a great mum to little L and she has had a wonderful life so far with much more to come. don't forget that...mmm i love brunetti's, i am imagining the rich coffee smell right now.
i ran the idea of the gong past dh....didn't go down well!
arte- wow A is really advanced isn't she? you sure do breed quick learners. do you have any friends with kids a little bit older eg.3-4 yo that W might like to hang out with. i have to say lewis would have no idea about bugs and things- he only just learned how to say 'sit' to the dog yesterday! LOL
mp- i'm shocked N can understand all those complex rel/ships. i really think lewis has no idea who my dad is, just some funny man that comes to visit LOL how long do you think you will wait before you ttc again?
md- we don't use anything for swimming either, we just have life jackets for both boys for on the boat/hanging near the water.
mm- glad little m's surgery went so well. she's so brave. give her a big kiss from me.
well girls wish me luck with our 10 hour drive tomorrow! i've got a stack of dvds ready for the car (both boys have tv screens now) and lots of snacks/drinks. i'm even taking a novel with me (a little ambitious, i know) i haven't read one since i was pg with lewis.... apparantely i'm going to be able to go to the hairdressers when we're in sydney- first time in absolutely ages- i'm thinking of doing something a little crazy and dying my hair a gorgeous browny red! colour, just in time for summer
Yeah G, go crazy with that hair colour!! Got my fingies and toesies crossed for you with the car ride, you might be surprised at how well the boys travel. And most of all, enjoy your trip!
MP - wow on the relationship understanding. BB has been migrating from one server to another so that might explain some of the glitches you are having.
Clare, I sooo want to see The imaginarium...! Your morning lie in etc sounds just gorgeous, a well deserved treat after the last hectic couple of months. I've scored a ticket to go to a critic's preview of film called French Kisses - it's one of those teen angst but written by a graphic novel author so shld be good.
Arte, it takes the kids a little while to learn to get interested in each other. Missy E is very sociable (talking) but I think that's because she has an older sister for a sounding board. Also it's one thing for a child to talk about an experience they had (vivid memory) vs listening to someone else talk about something that happened to them, which is more abstract if the thing they're listening about isn't in front of them, kwim? My DD1's little friend was always miles ahead with the talking but after about the age of 3 they had enough language between them for it to 'work'. They're still good friends 10 years later LOL.
Bit of a reprieve in the temperature today, finally! A bit too late for my lawn (loose definition) which has gone completely brown and crunchy. Missy E seems to be coping better with the heat than she did last year, which is good.
Sorry girls if i seem selfish in my posts - for some reason i cant see any posts after Artes from a few days ago - I have to press quote ot write and then i see my post and all the ones before it. v odd.
Noah is becoming really weird with his food... suddenly not v interested... i think it coincides with him becoming confident physically so maybe he is more interested in playing than eating. i hope it is just a phase...
He lost a bit of weight over thre last few months - i think bc of being active... he weighs 12.9kg, i think he used to weigh 14kg.. what do your little ones weigh?
ETA - now i see all the posts - but i seem to be missing stuff...
MM soooooooo glad maddie went well with the op - i was thinking of you all on friday and over the weekend...
Clare - your day sounds lovely. and the party for leila sounds fun too - a bday carnival - love it! have you been down about ttc? (i am reading into it., i seem to have lost those posts).
Arte - Noah gets along pretty well with kids - but maybe this is bc he is v advanced in cognitive things but a bit behind physically so it kinda balances out. he does get frustrated when ppl dont understand him - and i see that he likes being inthe older room at kindy too, as the kids can talk to him more.. so for him i think it may bemore balanced bc he cant keep up with some things but is way ahead on others ift hat makes sense? i think it will all balanmce out over time, and maybe as W spends more time with other kids his age he will also find it easier - i think N has learned a lot of it from kindy and understands that some kids dont get what he does, but he is happy to play games and soing songs etc with them. A sounds amazing - J rolled once on sunday and that's it - he is spemding lots of time on his side though., he seems more interested in 'activity' than N and is a massive babbler already so i think he will be an early talker but again i dont think he will be an olympic athlete LOL!
Rainy - thinking of you with the car trip... wow that's a big ask!!! i am sure the boys will shock you... enkjoy your timeout at the hairdresser too...
Hi girls, i'm still here too , but you all know how more concentration it takes to keep up with your friends in here.
Rainy- 3 is perfect, but why stop there? Regardless of what #2 was, we were always going to have more. But i don't like the assumption that we'll have more just to have a boy iiykwim? If we have another girl, that's cool too. And regardless of what number 3 is, we'll still probably have 4! Now remember Sydney is crap, Mornington Peninsula rocks. As for you Clare, i'll have no more of that Woolongong carry on.
Arte- That's funny W wont play with the kids if he's not understood. Lu plays well with kids older, who speak much better than her, and kids her own age and younger who she speaks better than. I find they adjust and find a way to play no matter the age gap. Maybe it's just those kids. Surely there is a kid who's as into bugs and things as W? Maybe you could encourage other kids to do things that W likes, like all looking under rocks together? Or say to W, "the kids might not understand W, why don't you show them waht you're talking about?"
MP- Hows J's temp? resolved i hope. Maybe the disinterest in food is due to hie molars? Does N have 2 year old molars yet? Lu is pretty big, she's a little ball of muscle. Weghs about 14 and a bit kgs!
MD- How you going? Did you see on the news the other night the trial that is beginning where they inject fat cells into the breasts of woman who have had mastectomies and they are able to make the fat cells multiply hence growing back a woman breast. Trail is just beginning so if it is successful it wont be available for 3 years, but sounds promising. Sound like you are making peace with the surgery and the nipple thing. Thats great to see. x
Clare- That is gross about the beach. Frankston beach is swept and cleaned very regularly. Maybe it's because it used to be disgusting too! Glad you're feeling better. I don't think these (traumatic events) things ever leave us totally. I think they can catch us out from time to time. Glad you're feeling better. Are you coming to the dinner of brunch?
Trill- Got that swimming pool up yet?? Are you back to a dust bowl now? Doesn't take much to dry out does it? Everyone is madly bailing and cutting silage here now.
MM- A friends DD had grommets put in last week too. Hopefully it make a big difference to those ear infections. Do you have to wear earplug when swimming if you have grommets these days? I remember my brother had to, but that was years ago!
We are great here, madly packing the house. Glenn going back to PNG in 2 weeks for another 3 weeks. So i'm moving in to mum and Dad's until we go permanently. (Jan i think) My bother is having ECT, it's been pretty hard, but i 'think' he might have turned a corner. Mental illness is the pits.
Lu is great, very funny, lots of tantrums and speaking so well. She cracks me up daily. Sas is pulling herself up and walking behind a trolley. They don't stay little too long these babies do they? She's not sleeping so well. I think it's the separation anxiety phase. But i find it hard on my own when she's waking a lot in the night. Thems the breaks, onwards and upwards hey???
MP I've had times when I've had problems with viewing posts, seems glitchy for a little while then goes back to normal eventually. Might be worth emptying your temp files cache, see if that fixes it. Missy E weighs somewhere between 12 & 13 Kg when we last checked a few weeks ago. BTW lots of talking doesn't necc mean early talking (tho that would be nice!): DD1 was *never* silent but in fact had a bit of a speech delay. So we've always had lots of noise that's not necc communicative & she loves to repeat things just in case whoever was in the room didn't hear it the first few times (drives me *nuts*). Missy E doesn't talk nearly so much in comparison but seems to be more on par with normal speech development. Will probably get her screened just to make sure in a few months time.
Ange - the boob-made-from-fat story spread like wildfire thru the online BC community. In fact one of the ladies I know donated excess fat from her recon op to the guy who's been working on this in Aust, so we all got to joke about her famous flab . It's still a few years off though - they haven't studied enough about the recurrence risk since BC can grow in fat tissue - and they've only been able to grow small boobies so far. They are already using artificial bladders made using the recipients own tissue (same technology) so it *will* happen. A few years too late for me though. I did briefly contemplate holding off on the reconstruction BUT I'll get a much better cosmetic result from doing it now with my own skin even if it means I have to sacrifice a back muscle to get it.
BTW I'm having a huge far-out moment over ECT (electroconvulsive therapy in case anyone else missed the reference). That is a very big deal and I guess demonstrates how what a terrible place your bro has been in with his illness. I hope he gets good results and can go onto less drastic treatment soon.
Ginger, I agree with Ange - Sydney is crap (nice to visit, bummer to get around if you live there - as I did for 3 months -which was definitely long enough!) Plus I"m not sure you'd really want to go anywhere too far from your dad???
MD, I totally understand that you would have concerns about it - as too would a lot of other women but if they can nail it and guarantee that there will be no issues down the track it will be a momentous leap foward.
Ange it's so great to hear from you hun. I can't even begin to imagine what this has been like for your brother and all of you supporting him through it I hope he has turned a corner with this treatment. It's not quite a dustbowl out here yet LOL but give it another few weeks of no rain and it will be. We haven't put the pool up yet, but after the past few days it was tempting to have it out. But today is a gorgeous 31 compared to yesterday's blast furnace of 40 (with mega hot winds) so we don't need it out yet afterall.
G, I hope the trip has been going OK for you all. Is J over the car trip thing now? I really hope he is for your sake LOL. And yes, I do think anyone who does the bridge to bridge even in the lower categories is still an awesome skiier so you can tell him that. When I drive the boat and pull BIL I have to sit on about 4000 revs (sorry don't know how fast that is in k's) but it feels like you are going super fast anyway so skiing at 60kms is mindboggling for me. What about you go midway and settle at batemans bay or Narooma? Both lovely spots.
Hey PP. I wouldn't worry about him being off his food, it's just a toddler thing and it can be a passing thing or last for a few months. Even in previously big/good eaters they can do that as the big wide world is just too interesting to stop and eat much kwim? Alister is still hovering at 13kg sometimes more, sometimes less depending on where I get him weighed. He has shot up to 95cm now though so he looks like skin and bone LOL.
I forgot to say the other day that when we went swimming at first Alister wouldn't have a bar of wearing his swim shorts LOL - he got starkers in the changeroom and must have thought 'righto, off I go" and cracked it when I tried to put his shorts and rashy on him. But once we got out to the pool he was fine. But then his size 0 boardies were too big in the waist so I had to wrangle them off him and have another fight over putting his budgie smugglers on LOL.
lately his thing has been to pretend he is a truck all the time. He goes everywhere making truck sounds, even the jake brake ROFL and when you ask him to come to you he backs up and makes beeping sounds. I should video it, it's just gorgeous. As for the talking and older kids, he is real take it or leave it - if older kids can't understand him it's like 'meh, suit yourself' and he goes off somewhere else.
Sherie: YOU SO SHOULD FILM HIM!!! that sounds like a funniest home video moment LOL!
G: ha ha! i forgot that sydney-siders have a tainted view of the might gong LOL. ah well, hopefully we'll be living by the ocean there enjoying the dolphin delights
Ange: ah yes, sorry about that...hmm actually why dont G and family move to PNG?!!!! i dont envy the packing.... for your brother. ECT is massive, but thankfully he has his family close for support in the coming months.
i will be at the brunch...
MP: hmmm i have no real idea of L weighs...i am sure that it is somewhere near 11kgs. i weighed her just before going to italy and she weighed 10.5....
AFM: have uploaded Cake pictures! considering i DONT bake i am happy with how it turned out...tasted pretty spesh too.
Off to check out the cake Clare. PNG. Now you're talking. Not sure i'd convince her though! Not much shopping out there.
Yeah MD- it has been pretty stressful, hence my inability to concentrate long enough to post in here.
Everything with my brother seemed to happen so quickly. I still can't get over who he is atm when i see him. It's like someone has taken over his body. I have never seen, serious clinical depression up close before. I have a new perspective. Man it is scary.
The Psychiatrist is confident he will be his normal self again, but it will take time. At this stage he is moving in with mum and Dad when he gets out of hospital. So we are going to live there too. I don't want to stay here alone and he can;t be alone during the day. So works well for everyone. He LOVES lulu, he is the favorite uncle by a mile, so hopefully she will be good for him.
Hi Leanne.
ETA- i need a new user name i think. i don't want to be the chick from k1nglake iykwim. A fresh start. Any suggestions? toosarcastic? mumwhospendstoomuchtimeonbb? kinda catchy don't you think? misunderstood? Sandy? "you better shape up". junglemumma? hmmmmmm not going so well.....
Last edited by Junglemum; November 17th, 2009 at 05:23 PM.
Has anyone used Maybe Baby?? Ive been using it for a month now and im ready to throw it in the bin, its so frustrating!!! My patterns seem so completely...wrong. 6 months of TTC and im cracking the *****s
Hey Renee! I never used it sorry. Have you tried acupuncture or anything like that? Some people swear by it. I'm thinking of having it done myself to help regulate me.
LOL at the names Ange. I'm hopeless at picking names for anything so I'm no use to you at all. I hope that having Lu around will help your brother.
Clare it's a wonder that L didn't come back 5kg heavier after eating all that gorgeous food LOL.
It will be just my luck that he wont do it for ages now but I'll have the camera phone at the ready jic
Trill, no wonder A has no hips, he must resemble a rake!! At his 2 year old check W was 12.6kg and 86cm. Is your honey in reasonable sized containers? I have this vision of you heaving a 20L bucket up onto the breakfast table lol The truck thing sounds adorable!
Ange, yip actual clinical depression is a scary and horrible thing. My BIL has suffered it on and off since his head injury 6 years ago. He is currently in a good place, the best he has been in years. But a couple of months ago he wasn't. It is hard It may not be the case with your bro, but just a warning - when BIL is down he can be very rude and hard to be around. He is also very anti to W (but this is mostly an amplification of his middle child syndrome). To the point where it becomes unfair to W to be anywhere near him. I proba
bly can't get this worded right, but just trying to warn you that when someone is very depressed their real self can be hidden by the depression and they act very differently. Try not to take it personally if he is a bit on the mean side, it is only the depression talking.
Can I ask what your current username means? I have been wondering for ages!
Renee, I haven't used maybebaby - is that the fern pattern thing?
Clare, will have a peep at the cake pics after this.
Thanks for the replies. W has always been quite clingy (probably because I have no friends so he only sees other people for a few hours a week at MG/music) and it is only in the past 4-5 months since the older kids at MG went off to kindy that he has started leaving my side. I grew up always on the outer and I really want W to feel like he belongs - it takes him way out of his comfort zone to talk to the other kids and it is so sad seeing the look on his face when they don't respond to him. I know it will even up eventually, but it sucks seeing him rejected in the meantime. There are only a couple of older girls at MG, all the bigger boys went to kindy this year but they were too loud and rough for him anyway. I might try bug hunting with the neighbours boy next time he is over though, that was a good idea.
Trill, I would love to take him to Montessouri but we are in Hicksville and the only choices are the local kindy or..... the local kindy. They can't start there until they are 3.
Awww hun, he will fit in. At this age toddlers don't really *play* together till they are about 3, they might look like they are playing together if you see a group of kids at playgroup or MG all playing with trucks, but rarely are they actually playing together, they just happen to be in the one place playing with the same things kwim? Even when they do get to 3yo preschool/kinder it will still take some kids a while to actually play a co-ordinated game with other kids. Even now with Lindsay and Alister, for all intents and purposes it looks like Alister is playing with him but in reality all Alister is doing is his own thing and driving Lindsay mental LOL. It might not have been so much that the older kids couldn't understand him or weren't interested, but maybe more that some toddlers have the attention span of a goldfish and just can't stay riveted to one spot to listen to anyone talk to them for too long, and knowing W he would have been giving a fairly engrossing and detailed talk LOL.
And yep, no hips - a lot of the time it's only having a nappy on that keeps his pants up! Like with the swim shorts, he didnt have a nappy on so there was nothing to stop them falling down over his non-existent bum ROFL.
thanks xx
...i dont remember the last time i did that LOL!). then a girlfriend from uni called and said to come and see a movie at a cinema near uni that has $6 monday sessions...so went to brunettis for a coffee and a movie (saw the 'imaginarium of dr parnassus...AMAZING!). 
And bigger kids will be the same because to them, he's a baby kwim? Before long they will catch up to him. but all you can do is keep nurturing him because he is such a precocious little boy and I'm sure that it wont affect him. Maybe you could look at some type of Montessori or Steiner school for him. I'm sure they would have that type of education over there in NZ.
. It's still a few years off though - they haven't studied enough about the recurrence risk since BC can grow in fat tissue - and they've only been able to grow small boobies so far. They are already using artificial bladders made using the recipients own tissue (same technology) so it *will* happen. A few years too late for me though. I did briefly contemplate holding off on the reconstruction BUT I'll get a much better cosmetic result from doing it now with my own skin even if it means I have to sacrifice a back muscle to get it. 
and cracked it when I tried to put his shorts and rashy on him. But once we got out to the pool he was fine. But then his size 0 boardies were too big in the waist so I had to wrangle them off him and have another fight over putting his budgie smugglers on LOL. 
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