DP & I cannot agree on a first name. Bubs middle name will be John (same as DP's).
DP just said he'd be happy to call bubs Jack.
Jack would be after DP's grandfather he never met (he's fathers father). He died in DP's fathers arms when FIL was in his 20's. DP's whole family always remark how much he looks like Grandpa Jack. So the name has meaning.
But I dont like it that much. I get the meaning behind the name, I like that part of it. But Jack John? I'm not one who says "oh you cant use this name because it doesnt go with the middle/last name" etc etc, but this combo is really awkward imo. But I suppose middle names are rarely said anyway.
And Jack is HUGELY popular. I dont mind semi-popular names ... but Jack's hugely used nowadays.
DP cracked it with me when I told him I dont really like it and accused me of shutting down all his names lol. He does the same friggen thing to the names I come up with! Hahaha.
We have two other names we keep going back to:
Xavier &
Ben
DP loves Xavier but is unsure about it as he has a friend whos little 5yo is called Xavier. We see the friend occasionally, but not he's little son as he lives with his mother. I really like Xavier, but cant get a definite yes or no "its off the list" from DP.
Ben was my suggestion, DP liked it at the start but I think he's gone cold on it now. But again, wont give me a definite yes or no as to taking it off the list!
Anyway, any thoughts on Jack? Or even the other two?
I love Jack but I agree that it sounds odd with John as the middle name.
I love Ben - would he be Benjamin John or just Ben John? I think Benjamin John sounds much more finished if that makes sense?
I hope you both come to an agreement soon. I know how hard it is to agree on a name. Perhaps see if your DP can at least think about a name you like for a few days, play it over in his head with the middle name he wants and then give an answer, rather than shooting it down (like my DH used to do!).
Good luck
Can you have two middle names? Not sure which way around you'd prefer it, but maybe lengthen one of the middle names (I.e. Jackson, johnathan) when Its the middle name to help make it sound "right"?
I :love: jack obviously but not if you are using John as a middle name they are dirivatives from the same name many older johns are known as Jack
and even though Jack was #1 when my son was born I am yet to run in to a Jack of the same age I actually only know of 3 other Jacks one is 7yr, one is 6ys and the other is 2yrs so even though it is a popular name you may not run into any other Jacks
What Rach said - Jack was originally a nickname for John. And as you said, it sounds quite awkward.
Technically Ianto's name comes down to John John as well (Ianto is sorta the Welsh version of Jack, actually) but they were so dissimilar that it didn't bother us.
Can I cautiously raise my hand and say I'm not a fan of Jack? I respect that it's a popular and well liked name, but there's certainly lots and lots of Jacks out there - which is fine!! I personally wouldn't use it for my kids, that's all. And I agree that Jack John doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
I like Xavier - why don't you ask your friend if he'd mind if you called your son that name (if that's the name you both settle on)? Most likely he wouldn't mind. I really like Ben though. And what about John as Jon? Xavier Jon, Benjamin Jon.
I like Jackson, Jack for short (maybe), but to be honest I don't think Jack John goes at all. I like thats they're both family names, but isn't one family name at a time enough??? Maybe you could save Jack for the next baby boy
I LOVE Xavier! It is a strong name and goes beautifully with John.
GL, I know first hand how hard it can be to agree with DH on baby names!!!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Jack John sounds plain ol weird! Benjamin (which yep Lisa we would go Benjamin, just use Ben as a nn) John & Xavier John just sound so much nicer. I love them both equally, but yeah I think DP has gone off Benjamin sadly.
I spoke to DP about Xavier again, and asked him exactly why he isnt sure on it anymore when before we had even found out what bubs was he had suggested it and raved for weeks and weeks about how much he loves it. And that he still says how much he loves it so I dont understand why he wasnt sure. He's worried that people will say to us "Oh you named him the same as your friends little boy." Yet when I asked exactly WHO would say that, he couldn't think of anyone.
Nobody else on his side of the family interacts with his mate or anything, they only hear about him in passing. And nobody on my side of the family know him at all LOL.
And honestly who cares if someone did say that. If we choose it, it certainly wasnt because of this friends little boy. It was pure coiencendce that he had the name we had loved the moment we got our BFP.
It may just be a case of waiting until bubs is born and "seeing" what he looks like.
Again thank you all so much for your input, you have all been so helpful
i would have concerns with using Xavier just incase there was the odd chance of a fall out in friendship and then it could be a terrible reminder ... For example I named our DD's middle name after my younger sister whom I was incredibly close to and to our utter shock she had a falling out with me 4yrs ago and everytime I see my DD's middle name I'm reminded of the emotional pain.
Jack
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