no no it wasnt a ramble! thanks for your help! my DD is 19 months. i was thinking it was about time to go to the dentist with her, i have asked before and they said when you think she is old enough to not be scared etc. but i figure at least if she can sit on my lap in the chair she will start to get a little bit used to the surroundings. i dont think she will open her mouth yet though.

i will have another look at her gumline today and see if it settles down soon.

thanks heaps, you have put my mind at ease!