I see how you can come to that conclusion Nae... I guess we are in a society of things going wrong and being interfered with as well as dealing with loss, that people are now hypervigilant about it and want to do all they can to stop it.
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I see how you can come to that conclusion Nae... I guess we are in a society of things going wrong and being interfered with as well as dealing with loss, that people are now hypervigilant about it and want to do all they can to stop it.
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I've just watched my mum, who pushing 60, just came down with whooping cough. She wasn't allowed to be around babies under 6 months (for 100 days), so I am selfishly thankful that DD is older and we didn't have to stay away from her. So the diseases are coming back slowly. But I agree with freedom of choice, and I don't believe it should be compulsory, but I get angry when the reason given for not vaccinating is because the diseases aren't there anymore. They aren't there because of the immunisations helping! So that's my standing on the soap box moment!!!
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I don't care if they did make them compulsory - I wouldn't do it. What a joke that anyone can think they can tell me what to do with my child.....
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Over my dead body would I allow someone to inject that poison into my child's body on mandate.
The suggestion itself offends me...as does the notion that diseases do not exist simply because the inoculations came about.
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Sorry, Lime, didn't mean to offend you or anyoneI know that immunisations aren't the sole reason for the diseases going away.
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It could also be argued that the reason why a lot of them aren't around anymore is because we wash our hands more often and have better levels of hygiene, access to health services and better health in general - just food for thought
Nae, I understand what you are saying, but if you feel that way, then you should have the option to use them if you want to kwim - the question isn't about the benefits of vaccination, but rather should people essentially be forced to do it if it were made compulsory. This could be asked about anything - should circumcision be made compulsory because of evidence suggesting it reduces the risk of cancer, or should it be made compulsory that we can't co-sleep because it will reduce the risk of smothering an infant or child - it sets us on a slippery slope towards the Government making all our parenting decisions for us. Heck they have already done it with homebirth haven't they? It is a basic right of being a parent that we are the ones to make the choices about what is the best thing for our children, not the right of the Government. It isn't really about what you would or wouldn't choose (even though I chose NO), but rather having the right to make the decision for yourself.
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If it became compulsory, I'd like to see them track me down and force me into it. I'd go to jail over letting someone inject either of my babies with that toxic crap.
We don't vaccinate at all and I make no apologies for that choice. It's a bloody hard decision to make as a parent and it's a decision I feel strongly about.
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So agree with you corelly, I don't want to imagine a world where smallpox is still rife and other killer diseases like diptheria and measles were a scary reality for parents (my grandmother nearly died from diptheria as a child). However I don't think it should be compulsory because once you start forcing people into proceedures, where does that road end? I think the answer is in education from reputable sources and yes there are some very good and very bad ones out there, the hard part is in educating people on what amkes an article a good one.
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Trillian - yeah I knowthats why I said I was in two minds about it and that I think making this sort of thing compulsory is against human rights. Like most things I do believe in choice but I would also hate to see a child (any child) get sick and die from something that was preventable ITMS??
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I personally believe in the effectiveness of vaccinations and I feel that the benefits of some of them outweighs the levels of toxins they contain... but I am 100% against compulsary vaccinating. I have no qualms what-so-ever with someone else concluding differently to me and choosing not to vax and I also take great offense to the idea that the vax schedule is perfect and would therefore have to be followed to the letter.
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I am pro vaccination for my own kids, but a bit mortified at the idea that the choice would be taken away from me. Just as people who don't want to vaccinate their kids want a choice, I want to be the one making the choice to vax my kids because I think it is right not because someone tells me I have to - does that make sense?
I would also consider it a massive violation of human rights for everyone, not just for those that don't want to. We should all be able to make that choice for ourselves doing what we feel is right.
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I'm with meow - benefits of some vaccines outweigh the risks.
BUT I do think that vax should be compulsory, because if it's not, a lot of uneducated people would just take the "meh" road. I'm OK with a small percentage of conscientious objection, like many non-vaxers here, but I am not OK with folks like my stepcousininlaw who hasn't vaxed just because she can't be bothered.
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Yep Nae, it does make senseI guess I see if from the other side of the fence as well where I would hate to see a child die or get very very ill because of the vaccination - because it has happened - and that's why I think we should never have this decision taken away from us, because sometimes we have to weigh up what the risks are to our children as individuals and not what is for the greater good of the wider community.
*snap* Audax. There will always be people who take that attitude an even if made compulsory, there will still be people who have that attitude and not have it done.
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I refused the Hep B vaccine for DD at birth but have followed the schedule since then. This is my choice on her behalf and it's scary to know that taking away that choice is even up for discussion.
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Must say though, another fabulous example of WA journalistic and research skills: when 800 people is considered a realistic representation of a 2 and a quarter million population, I will strip naked and feed myself to the sharks.
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I'd love to see a really fair representation of serious discussions.....if we have to vote at an election, give us some other things to vote for on polling day too to get a true representation on how people feel. We're in serious trouble if we have to live in a country where it is totally up to the bureaucrats!
Going off what I said earlier, I truly believe that if you have weighed up the pros/cons for yourself and your child, then that's perfect and nobody has the right to take that decision away from you, whatever your decision may be. While I may be passionate for immunisating MY child, I understand that there are people out there who are passionate for not immunising too. But because you can't be bothered? Audax, your cousin is scary!
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I didnt' realise though that only 1200 people lived in WA though
Interesting to note that this was a survey conducted by a Private health fund - a fund which in it's best interests needs people to stay wellAlmost two-thirds of West Australians believe routine childhood vaccination should be compulsory, a new survey has revealed.
A poll of 800 people by Painted Dog Research for health insurer HBF and _The West Australian _also found that more than half of people believed parents who refused to vaccinate their children were irresponsible.just more food for thought.
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I dont care what *they* decide, over my dead body will they inject my beautiful perfect children without MY say so.
I seriously cant believe that with what has happened with the flu shot, now is the best time to even mention making it mandatory... what a joke. Just ask those poor mums if they would like their babies jabbed again, WITHOUT their permission.....
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