PP - you should just take having babies up as an occupation. You couldnt' even watch a movie in that time.

I am so glad there are more of us around than I thought. I always tell people and they think I'm full of BS. Not all labours are long and drawn out. Quite a few are very fast and we only just make it.

I wouldn't be able to not push at 10cm. I found I wasn't left with a choice. The pushing is completely involuntary.

Preagainpan - you are going to have to get a wriggle on too!!