Yeah... its good to hear other ideas too though, or just to know that you are doing the best you can. Jovie yesterday & today is just refusing to suck on my breasts, she will start to suck and then stop before let down can even happen now. I am persistent & have put her on my breasts whenever I can but she still won't suck well. I may give expressing a miss unless my bb's feel full... it may help me to relax. I had some good nudey nipple time today....