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thread: Breast Feeding AND Formula Feeding

  1. #37
    Debbie Lee Guest

    Fletch - Gab went through phases where she was fussy on the boob and I thought she was rejecting it too. I think it was a combination of her having a growth spurt and me getting AF on a couple of occasions. I kept persevering because, at that stage, I only wanted her to have a formula bottle before bed and the rest BM. She eventually settled down again. Maybe Zane is doing a similar thing and will go back to taking the boob properly in a few days?

    I was going to change to the Heinz formula because it is cheaper but the quantities are different from the S26. Gabby drinks about 220-240mls before bed and their quantities only went up to 200mls. I just figure, why make such a big change all for the sake of a couple of $$.


  2. #38
    Debbie Lee Guest

    Hmmm... well, I think my supply is definitely dwindling to the point where Gabby may be fully weaned very soon. This morning, she hardly fed at all and was far from satisfied. Ah well... I knew it would happen eventually! I'll still offer her the boob at the same times tho. I guess Gab will let me know when there's nothing left!

  3. #39
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    Feb 2004
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    Matthew has Heniz and has no problems with it although he'll rarely drink the full 200mls.

    Fletch I think Zanes weight gain is great. Just wanted to reassure you that Matthew was about the same at Zanes age.. he has just hit 7kgs now and he is 7.5 months.

    Deb - you have done so well with Gab and your feeding. Even if she does wean herself, be content that you came so far! And that she would have done it regardless of whether you introduced more FF's or not.

  4. #40
    BellyBelly Life Member

    May 2004
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    Hey Fletch!
    Can I ask - have you been expressing and bottle feeding Zane, or just straight breastfeeding?

  5. #41
    BellyBelly Life Member

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    Fletch - ahhh my feeding dramas! See me other post all about that. I have been expressing but am slowing that right down now. I have a freezer stocked with the stuff anyway - so combined with formula she should be getting some of the good stuff for a few more weeks now. I didn't ever think that getting a baby to eat would be so hard!

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    Opps! Sorry Fletch, I didn't realise! 8-[

  7. #43
    Debbie Lee Guest

    Nell - thanks for your words of encouragement. I appreciate it. I am happy that I managed to get to the 6 month mark. Thankfully we are still getting some BM into her so hopefully we'll get to the 7 month mark and perhaps the 8 month mark. That would be nice. Still.... I have come to a place where I am happy if Gabby decides that she doesn't want the booby n e more.
    That's great that Matty likes the Heinz formula. Do you use it to mix up cereal (if he has it) or do you use BM?

    Soph - sorry to hear you have been having dramas. It's a lot more complicated than you think it's going to be, hey? Complicated, emotional, difficult - yet rewarding all the same. Ahhhh who'd have a baby, hey

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    well poor Dommie is sick here,he refused to have his formula at his waking during the night,and only wanted BM so now i am expressing like crazy to get some more for him...i have about 20 ounces in the freezer,but he drank formula before he went to bed for his nap,so i guess it was just preference in the middle of the night....
    Debbie its great you have gotten to the 6 months mark,and im sure you will continue for as long as you both want....i had no idea Dominic would still be having BM at 9 months (he is on tuesday) i was sure that i would end up giving up like i did with the others!!!
    hope everyone is well and happy!!

  9. #45
    Debbie Lee Guest

    Well... it's sad but true. Gabby had her very last BF yesterday morning. I cried because I am going to miss it so much. She just wasn't satisfied after a BF anymore. So, I have given up the ghost. She is now a FF baby.

    I must say though, it came in handy this morning. Neil got up to her and gave her a bottle! Yay!

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    Well Congrats on making it this far Deb....You know you did the best you could for her anyway....(((hugs))) i know it is a hard decision....
    Well Dominic doesnt BF here anymore either....But i am still expressing for him,so i guess we still do belong here.....
    currently only managing anywhere from 5-8 ozs per day expressed,but hey anything is better than nothing i suppose!!!
    Hope everyone else is well!!

  11. #47
    Debbie Lee Guest

    That's right, Suzie. No matter how he is getting it, he's still getting some of that magical booby-juice and all it's anti-bodies.

  12. #48
    Debbie Lee Guest

    I stole the "booby-juice" thing from Nell, hehehe.

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    LOL,my best friend Tam who hasnt even got kids calls it 'booby-juice' so it is nice to see some others using the expression!!!
    Yup Deb,it isnt how they are getting it,it is the fact that they are getting it....

  14. #50
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    lol and I stole booby juice from my g/f -

    Oh Deb - you have done so well, well done! Yay back to normal bras!! I'll be crying too, I know that for sure!

    Suzie - you too sweetie, 9 months is great, I hope Dominic is better.

    I just mix Matthew's Heinz forumla up like a bottle. I am going to get him to start drinking it out of a cup very soon, try and remove ourselves off the bottle... note I said try!

  15. #51
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    May 2003
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    Hi ladies

    As most of you know, I am a big fan of combining the booby juice with formula, so thought I'd share:

    Charlie was breastfed for all feeds, but because I have our wedding coming up, I wanted him to start taking a bottle (so I can have a glass or 5 of champagne.)

    When Charlie was a newborn he would happily take a bottle of EBM, but I got complacent, hadn't offered him the bottle for ages, so when we tried it again about 2 weeks ago he screamed the house down & would NOT take a bottle........arrrgggg!

    Anyway, Andrew persevered, and we tried every combination of bottle, teat, temp, EBM, formula etc.

    With a lot of persistence, Andrew cracked it last week, and now Charlie will happily take S26 formula from a Pigeon Perialistic (sp?) bottle. He will take it from ANdrew, me, and we will get my matron of honour to give him a bottle from THurday when she arrives.

    So for the past week, for Charlie's afternoon feed, (about 4.30pm?) after he wakes from a nap (hungry but rested) he has a bottle. Then followed by bath, boob and bed at 7pm.

    Eversince we have started this, CHARLIE HAS SLEPT THROUGH the night from 7pm to about 6.00am. Wooohoo!

    AS you can imagine, I am pretty happy about this!

    Olivia did exactly the same thing: as soon as we intorduced a bottle of forula for that afternoon feed, she started sleeping through. (She did it at 4 months).

    Just thought I would share, so that if anyone else is thinking about combining boob and bottle they can see the benefits that I am enjoying.......I don't know if it works for all babies, but certainly in my experience, it is a really workable arrangement.......

  16. #52
    Debbie Lee Guest

    Lucy - yay for Charlie finally taking the bottle AND sleeping through! That's fantastic! Now you will be well rested and stress free for your wedding Well... maybe just a bit more than before.
    It's interesting what you say about sleeping through. When Gabby was given formula top-ups at hospital and again once I was home for a few days, it was so that she would sleep! I too believed that the formula bottle at night helped her to sleep through. It helped me to establish a night time routine and the bottle was a cue for Gabby to say "Ok, it's night time now. Go to sleep".
    I have a few friends that have said they will try the same thing when they have their second babies. While I tell them it took a while before Gabby was actually sleeping through and it may not work the same for them, they still feel it would be worth giving it a go as their first children didn't sleep through until well after 6 months. One of them still wakes during the night for a feed and she is 1.5!
    Another friend who has a little boy and girl twins said that she went to a conference where an expert doctor (can't remember his name) said that he believes a formula bottle at night is a great way of establishing a night time routine and helping bubs and mums to get some much-needed sleep. It certainly save my sanity!

  17. #53
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    May 2003
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    No Shannon, I don't bother expressing just for that one feed: my supply at that time of day of pretty low anyway, so I leave my boobs to get really nice and full for the bedtime boob, so Charlie gets a feast before bed! (Plus, I hate expressing!)

    I used NanHa for Olivia as apparently it has the most calories? Not sure how true that is, but she is/was such a titch I wanted to beef her up a bit, and also it was the one that she took best. NanHa poos are reputed to be the WORST! LOL! I have found Charlie's S26 poos to be nowhere near as offensive as NanHa poos!

  18. #54
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    May 2003
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    I reckon it is a case of trial and error. You can get stick packs of S26 from most chemists (for about $5 for 6 sachets) and also Karicare sell sample packs for about $1. So these would be the best options to try (otherwise you're spending around $20 a can, and Maya may not like it........)

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