Fiona - Thanks for the info. The ABA woman did not recommend a brand, I took the recommendations from the post here. And yeap I think they are more flat that truley inverted and I hope I don't need the shields. I just want them there if things go pear shaped and would rather be able to BF with them than resort to formula, and there is no way I will have time to express again this time with a 1 year old and a newborn.