It's been a real help to read all of your situations as i am gong through exactly the same things with my boys - except in double as they are both the same. The younger is copying off the older one and to be honest the last month or so has really been the worst ever since i've had kids. Some days i realise i haven't said anything positive to them only dont's, no's, stop! It's so depressing and has been getting me really down as i am now finding it embarrassing taking them anywhere as they are so over the top.

We have been to Ngala for help in June with parenting and they really helped with the issues we had then but these are different issues and none of those 'tricks' have been working. I guess i need to get back there for some more ideas.

They were big on 'individual' time with each but in my situation (and probably alot of others) it is impossible in the week. My DH leaves the house at 6.30am and returns around 5.30 which is then tea time followed by bath and bed so there is no time for him to look after the others while i have quality time with one. Weekends are taken up with swimming, shopping and we usually try and go somewhere as a family like the beach, so pretty tough to do it then either.

Anyway, waffle, waffle i have no answers but will watch this thread with interest - i'm just glad to find out it's not just me but it's so disheartening when everyone else i know's kids aren't remotely this bad and i've ended up with 'brats'.

take care ladies, hope we find some answers/methods to help us soon

Julie x