Dannii Minogue transfers to hospital...

[Cherished]

Artechim, I don't really know either but I imagine it's just another way for he government to control everyone. It doesn't make sense when hospitals are over crowed and medical professionals are over worked. Sure if there were babies and mothers dying all over the country from homebirthing than the public would be screaming out for regulation, that isn't happening so I don't know?

[Mad Scientist]

I think that article is disgusting.

[Schmickers]

It's mainly pushed by the Australian Medical Association and the RANZCOG. I'm not sure why NZ has diverged so much, but I can only assume that there must have been some strong midwives back in the day who managed to make it (or keep it) mainstream so that the comparable NZ bodies couldn't marginalise it with fear uncertainty and doubt like they do here.

[HotI]

Based on that article, the media must also take some responsibility ... maybe they have been influenced by the AMA and cronies?
Many in the community also hold the same view...and that if a woman is transferred its like 'yes, she should have been there in the first place', where is the support

[Freya]

She has no way of knowing if the complications werent something that would have happened hospital OR homebirth. Most of the time the complications that warrant a transfer are NOT related to it being a homebirth, but just birth complications in general. Complication is an all encompassing word, it might have been something as simple as finding out bub was breech or something, not a worse case scenario *sigh*

Way to go you silly woman, bub isnt even 2 days old yet and already youve belittle poor Dannii and her birth experience. Shame shame shame.

Good on you for trying Dannii!

[~Trish~]

Oh dear . Way to have a jab at someone who just gave birth...

The latest subscriber to the home-birth fad

Umm....I'm pretty sure women have been having homebirths since the dawn of time?

I just happen to think it’s a miracle that should take place within earshot of a few doctors and nurses. Somewhere like a hospital.

That's why women chose to have midwives at their home . And being transferred to hospital is usually in the plan if need be. Where's the problem?

People love it when things don't go to plan with celebrities and are quick to write stoopid articles to make themselves feel better .

[Phteven]

I noticed some really intelligent, balanced comments under the article

[Roryrory]

I am with Onxy - I think it's important to focus on the replies and how informed they are.

The media will always do this sort of thing - it sells papers. What is important is how we let it affect our perceptions is risk, and how we do what we can to (gently, delicately) enlighten others.

I am in a very "zen" mood right now....can you tell LOL!

[Kazbah]

So has anyone else commented on that article? Shame, news limited, shame.

[Ilithyia]

She has no way of knowing if the complications werent something that would have happened hospital OR homebirth.

That was my first thought!

Also its mentioned that its a complication of PREGNANCY not LABOUR! So its obvious that an informed decision was made about what was right for them and their situation and a decision was made to move to the hospital rather than stay at home!

It just annoys the $hit out of me how the media pretend to know so much about what happened when they weren't even there!!! And then to go on these little missions to write these crappy articles about a topic they clearly know sweet eff all about!!

I also like the terminology she uses... "But let’s face it – heart attacks and cancer are “natural” too. That doesn’t mean you want to tackle either of them without the help of a medical expert."

What makes her think that pregnany, labour and birth are something that need to be "tackled"! I certainly wouldnt want to go to somewhere to give birth where they looked at me as something that needed to be tackled!

Despite all these dirty little articles coming out....I hope that the population is getting a bit sick of it! I know I am!

actually up here in the Territory it's a govt funded thing too.....homebirths I mean - they prefer you to have your bub at home....the new legislation thing has thrown a realy spanner in the works....not that up here will really pay that much attention anyway lol.

Right! Lets all pack up and move to the Territory!

[Fleur]

She has no way of knowing if the complications werent something that would have happened hospital OR homebirth. Most of the time the complications that warrant a transfer are NOT related to it being a homebirth, but just birth complications in general. Complication is an all encompassing word, it might have been something as simple as finding out bub was breech or something, not a worse case scenario *sigh*

Way to go you silly woman, bub isnt even 2 days old yet and already youve belittle poor Dannii and her birth experience. Shame shame shame.

Good on you for trying Dannii!

:yeahthat:

URGH to the whole article.

I also noticed some of the excellent comments under the article & hopefully people will read these as well as the rubbish above.

[meow]

I can't bring myself to read the article. I was really excited to hear she had planned a HB and bummed for her that she transferred. I'm shocked at the media circus...what's the problem??Nothing went wrong, HB is safe, she transferred because she needed to. Why do they keep assuming midwives are not medical professionals too?!

[RhiChiChi]

I posted this on my FB this morning and got some interesting responses including a friend of mine stating that "there's no way i'd be pushing out my baby on the kitchen floor with no pain relief. This isn't Africa! We have wonderful hospitals and drugs for a reason"....wow.....so sad this is how women view HB because of the stupid media's inaccurate reporting.

Makes me angry

WTH?! Your friend is sadly misinformed & should do her 'homework' prior to commenting.

Did she have a bad outcome? How did the HB go 'wrong'? Sounds like back up hospy transfer worked just fine. AND she had a c-section, so hospy couldn't deal with complications, either...hence the surgery.
Ugh. I wish they could go home to escape the glare

Yeah, what did happen - we don't even know the full story!! Exactly right Mayaness!

That was my first thought!

Also its mentioned that its a complication of PREGNANCY not LABOUR! So its obvious that an informed decision was made about what was right for them and their situation and a decision was made to move to the hospital rather than stay at home!

It just annoys the $hit out of me how the media pretend to know so much about what happened when they weren't even there!!! And then to go on these little missions to write these crappy articles about a topic they clearly know sweet eff all about!!

I also like the terminology she uses... "But let’s face it – heart attacks and cancer are “natural” too. That doesn’t mean you want to tackle either of them without the help of a medical expert."

What makes her think that pregnany, labour and birth are something that need to be "tackled"! I certainly wouldnt want to go to somewhere to give birth where they looked at me as something that needed to be tackled!

Despite all these dirty little articles coming out....I hope that the population is getting a bit sick of it! I know I am!

Right! Lets all pack up and move to the Territory!

I agree, she made an informed decision at the time & chose to homebirth, no different to someone choosing a birthing centre or hospital - their choice & in most cases informed.

Far out the media are really peeving me off atm

[Mummato2]

double post

[Mummato2]

My response was

"in my honest opinion, that description is exactly what's wrong with people's perception about a home birth. If you don't research it out of interest (like I did with Cary's birth) you wouldn't know that it would be the exact same as a hospital in terms of equipment, medical care given etc only difference is you are not bound by hospital policy, unnecessary interventions and being pushed into procedures that you regret later.

Cooper's birth was a hospital induction complete with all the drugs I could get. Cary's was a birth centre water birth without any drugs and by far the easiest pain free birth. Yep - it was pain free!

Please don't get me wrong - a woman's birth choice is sacred. If you are well informed and choose a hospital birth - that's awesome. But what gets my blood boiling are sweeping statements about home birth from people that clearly have no ****ing idea about what they're talking about (media mainly) which is why people have images of women birthing on a floor like dogs"

[~Kim~]

actually up here in the Territory it's a govt funded thing too.....homebirths I mean - they prefer you to have your bub at home....the new legislation thing has thrown a realy spanner in the works....not that up here will really pay that much attention anyway lol.

[~Kaz~]

actually up here in the Territory it's a govt funded thing too.....homebirths I mean - they prefer you to have your bub at home....the new legislation thing has thrown a realy spanner in the works....not that up here will really pay that much attention anyway lol.

OT but Kim, I'm coming to stay with you for my next bub!!

[diotima]

(I hope its OK if I post here)
I was just watching the news and they did a segment on Danni Minogue. They then cut to an Ob saying that if you give birth at home the baby is 4 times more likely to die. I've never heard that before. They also said 50% of home births get transferred to a hospital. I didn't know that was true either. I always thought the risks were the same. Sounds very sensationalist and irresponsible to me.
Grrr... sometimes I wonder why I ever bother watching the news. Its so full of kaka...