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  1. #1
    BellyBelly Member

    Mar 2009
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    How exciting Infinity!

    Suga: I'd be a number 3 too

    Cricket: I think the "mess" was the main reason DH was a bit reluctant before our HB!! The first comment he made after the birth (to his mates and anyone who'd listen) was how he was expecting the pool to look like a shark attack had occured but there wasn't even one drop of blood! He couldn't believe it!! haha!

    I got accepted into the CMP yesterday! Well, i still have to have my assesment appointment (on the 28th) but i'll be fine!

    I had to go see the Dr yesterday to get a referral for the 1st trimester screening, and i hate to say it but when i left i felt a bit down in the dumps and realised later on that she had made me doubt my choice of having a HB. I had a few problems AFTER the birth
    1. I had a PPH and nearly had to be transferred
    2. I had retained placenta, still bleeding after 3 months so had a D&C and retained products were confirmed. (baby was 12 days over, placenta was unhealthy looking and got stuck on the way out so midwife was not 100% it all came away but as i had no other signs of retained products it was assumed all was well)
    3. My baby broke his collarbone at birth. This was only picked up at the 6 week check as he had FULL use of his arm and the only inkling that something was amiss was that during the first 3 weeks he was quite unsettled and would not feed as well on the left side (right clavicle fracture). It was only picked up as i noticed he sometimes appeared 'crooked' so the MCHN checked him out and found a lump on his collarbone (where the bone had re-formed).
    4. I declined the Vit K for my bub (I am ashamed of this decision as i now feel i did not do enough research into this and my babe had problems with bruising at 3.5months, I feel terribly guilty and the Dr gave me a lecture on why it is ALWAYS given to bubs born in the 'normal', ie- hospital, system. So now i feel even more guilty). I had to put my baby through the most AWFUL experience of having a blood test all because i didn't do my research and i feel dreadful. I had to have 4 courses of antibiotics within 3 months of the birth and feel that this may have contributed to 'killing off' the Vit K in his system, although the pediatrician said his clotting factors were all fine so i don't know what to think. I was pretty much fobbed off my the pediatrician and did not even get a follow up appointment, his receptionist just called me with the results!

    So i am feeling a little down in the dumps and while i know that all of these things could have happened (and quite often do!!) in the hospital system, i feel as though my doctor believes that none of these things would have happened if i hadn't had a homebirth! I feel terribly guilty right now and cannot wait to have a big long discussion (and probably a big cry too!!) with my midwife!

    Sorry, i didnt mean to make this a 'poor me' post but i guess i really needed to get that out and this would probably be the best place to do so.....
    xx

  2. #2
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Jan 2006
    11,633

    That sounds great Infinity - and wonderful that your DH has your back.

    Stoked. I don't see how any of those things would have differed if you had been at hospital adn realistically, the response from your midwife at home was probably exactly the same as you would have gotten anyway. I'm sure talking through it with your wonderful midwife will put your mind at ease.

    I have my booking visit on Monday. yay.

  3. #3
    Registered User

    Jun 2005
    USA
    3,991

    I'm so excited to hear about your home birth plans Infinity! You sound like you've absolutely made the right choice! I'm sorry you feel you need to keep it a secret from those around you. It's going to be an awesome experience!!!

    Stoked I'm so sorry you're feeling that way. I think a good chat to your midwife will help. I'll offer my thoughts too...

    1. I had a PPH and nearly had to be transferred
    Well, that could happen again and if so you can still transfer again. No biggie.

    2. I had retained placenta, still bleeding after 3 months so had a D&C and retained products were confirmed. (baby was 12 days over, placenta was unhealthy looking and got stuck on the way out so midwife was not 100% it all came away but as i had no other signs of retained products it was assumed all was well)
    Okay, so maybe in hospital they would have sent you off for the D&C straight after labour "in case". I think I prefer the sound of doing it later "as needed" as you did so it sounds like a good outcome to me.

    3. My baby broke his collarbone at birth. This was only picked up at the 6 week check as he had FULL use of his arm and the only inkling that something was amiss was that during the first 3 weeks he was quite unsettled and would not feed as well on the left side (right clavicle fracture). It was only picked up as i noticed he sometimes appeared 'crooked' so the MCHN checked him out and found a lump on his collarbone (where the bone had re-formed).
    This absolutely could have happened in a hospital too. If your baby was moving well why would a broken bone be suspected. This is why we keep checking them afterwards- same for hospital or home birth. If you wanted to be pro-active to ease your mind next time you could visit a chiro for an after-birth checkup and your baby looked over. Great for getting them into alignment even without a break.

    4. I declined the Vit K for my bub (I am ashamed of this decision as i now feel i did not do enough research into this and my babe had problems with bruising at 3.5months, I feel terribly guilty and the Dr gave me a lecture on why it is ALWAYS given to bubs born in the 'normal', ie- hospital, system. So now i feel even more guilty). I had to put my baby through the most AWFUL experience of having a blood test all because i didn't do my research and i feel dreadful. I had to have 4 courses of antibiotics within 3 months of the birth and feel that this may have contributed to 'killing off' the Vit K in his system, although the pediatrician said his clotting factors were all fine so i don't know what to think. I was pretty much fobbed off my the pediatrician and did not even get a follow up appointment, his receptionist just called me with the results!
    I think declining the vit k as "routine" is a perfectly acceptable option and one many people choose in hospital too. It is not "always" given. You should feel proud that again, on an "as needed" basis you followed up medical care and everything was fine. You are an observant, caring and informed mother- give yourself a pat on the back!!

  4. #4
    BellyBelly Member

    Mar 2009
    1,385

    Hello Ladies,

    Thankyou so much for your supportive words.

    I think i've been feeling this way as it takes so long to "convince" people (my family, friends, doctors, other health professionals etc) that homebirth is safe and that i've done my research and made the right decision, then when something goes wrong people are so quick to say "i told you so!!"... I do know that all of the unfortunate things that happened could have happened in the hospital but they would have been accepted in the hospital ITMS. People are so quick to blame the homebirth but they wouldn't think twice if these things happened in the hospital. It is so frustrating! I feel like i'm being looked at as an irresponsible person for choosing HB and for going back there AGAIN after all these things happened! But bully to them! I just had a big ol' chat with my MCHN (lovely, lovely lady!) and she nearly slapped me for doubting myself! So that was nice for her to be so supportive

    Meow: We DID get our baby checked by a Chiro when he was 10 days old..... He didn't pick it up either! Neither did the MCHN at any of her visits up until the 6 week check. That's how well hidden it was! The Chiro could see that he was a little bit out on that side but didn't pick up the fracture.

    I will definately doing my research into Vit K for this baby, although as my MCHN just said, If Archie's Vit K levels were low it would have shown up in the clotting factors blood test.... So maybe just another guilt trip on Dr and Pediatrician's behalf??

    Thanks once again ladies, i really do appreciate your support xx

  5. #5
    Registered User

    Jan 2009
    hiding under my desk!
    1,432

    just popping in to say it is SO wonderful to see SO MANY women in here talking and planning HBs!
    when i was planning my HB there was 1 other on BB...
    I know you all will have GLORIOUS births and will not for one moment have any doubt that it wasnt the best birth decision you have made.

  6. #6
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Jan 2006
    11,633

    I do know that all of the unfortunate things that happened could have happened in the hospital but they would have been accepted in the hospital ITMS. People are so quick to blame the homebirth but they wouldn't think twice if these things happened in the hospital.
    So true!
    Your MCHN sounds great - glad you're feeling a little better.

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Mar 2008
    North Northcote
    8,065

    Hi girls!

    Stoked: i have to agree with the other posters and say that those problems post birth can and do happen in any setting (whether home or hossy). but like you said, if they happen in a hossy there is an acceptance that things can go haywire, but if they happen in a homebirth it's because we are 'reckless'. I hope that this next birth experience can bring healing for you, as i am sure it will

    AFM: things travelling well here pregnancy wise. bubbity boo is growing and squirming, and i am now entering the phase of uncomfortable sleep and midnight insomnia (oh the joys lol). I am away from Melbourbe atm and just heard some upsetting news taht my good friend (who was planning a homebirth) went into labour and within the hour baby was born. apparently it was so fast that she couldnt move from where the first contraction started and she had her two young boys there and wasnt able to really shield them from what was happening. poor bubby came out but was struggling to breathe. luckily the midiwife lives just down the road and was able to call the ambulance and both mum and bub are now in ICU. i am guessing that because of the crazy fast birth they are both being treated for shock?? i dont have details as (of course) it has only just happened and i am so far away at the moment. i am so worried about her and her baby boy. i will be back in melbourne on saturday and will give the mobile a call...that way they can screen who is calling and choose to answer if they want??? do you think this would be ok? (we are very close friends).

  8. #8
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Jan 2006
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    Wow. That's fast! Hope she and bubs are well and home soon. I think calling them would be fine, especially if you are close. Maybe even tomorrow - do you have her partner's number?

  9. #9
    Registered User

    Mar 2008
    North Northcote
    8,065

    Marcellus: thankfully when i got home they left messages and we were able to have a good long chat. things are much worse than i thought but baby Sam seems to be a fighter, and no matter what is a precious little boy who is loved to bits. it is turning out that although the birth was quick it wasnt the issue. they think that he might have congenital factors at play. but it's all so early and they are just working on keeping him calm and happy and rested while they run the tests. i just want to give my friend a big big hug. she is a beautiful mumma and this must be hard. thanks for the well wishes for them