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  1. #1

    Oct 2005
    A Nestle Free Zone... What about YOU?
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    The first rule is that thou shalt not feel guilt - especially about that which thou dost not know!!!!

    I am sure there are folk who think it's fine and you'll hear the old: "you had it as a kid and it did you know harm..."

    It's just something that is advised due to a) the high salt content of ham and manufactured meat b) the high nitrite content which is pretty icky c) meats like devon are highly processed and highly processed foods (manufactured ham like soccerball etc also fall into this category) are best avoided by all of us but especially developing babies.

    I find that I offer a platter to my kids and my baby - carrot sticks and hommus are a big hit - I make my own hommus & it's easy and yummy, yoghurt, capsicum sticks, celery sticks, a range of chopped fruits, I offer gluten free bread and they dip that into the hommus, sometimes they have home made fish sticks (I make a big batch and crumb them with stale gluten free bread and freeze them - are really quick to bake in the oven), I bake fruit muffins and freeze then individually (you know the mini muffin pans I use them) my kids are gluten free so I just use gluten free bread and I use apple puree instead of sugar or rapadura it's yummy! Sometimes they just have avocado on toast & that is yummy too with some fruit after...

    There are lots of choices beside the really manufactured ones -- though sometimes it seems hard to think of them I know...

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Oct 2007
    Gippsland, Victoria
    714

    Can i ask what nitrites are?

  3. #3

    Oct 2005
    A Nestle Free Zone... What about YOU?
    5,374

    Of course - sorry I didn't realise people didn't know what they are.

    Sodium Nitrate is a preservative that is used in ham, bacon, hot dogs, processed meats among other things. It is recommended that the intake is kept to a minimum due to the strong link with early ingestion or frequent ingestion and cancer - mostly colorectal cancer, pancreatic and stomach cancer. I think in some studies frequent eating of these products increased the cancer risk by up to 50 percent for colorectal cancer.

    As with all things there is a duality. Some say it's not a problem but more and more nutritionalists and dieticians are suggesting that we steer clear of these products due to these links. Also the high salt level in these products affects arterial development.

  4. #4
    Registered User

    Feb 2008
    Country Victoria
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    :yeahthat: i have no idea either...

  5. #5
    Registered User

    Oct 2007
    Gippsland, Victoria
    714

    Thanks Flowerchild

    Hmmmm.... DS doesn't really have ham or bacon, but he has had hotdogs a couple of times. No more hotdogs for DS!

  6. #6
    2013 BellyBelly RAK Recipient.

    May 2007
    Brisbane
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    Thanks so much Flowerchild, I had no idea, i thought the only issue with ham and cold meats was the lsiteria risk like in pregnancy

    Will keep this as a sometimes food now I think! Homemade hommus! YUM! I'm gonna give that a go (got a recipe tip?? ).

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Feb 2009
    Central Coast NSW
    592

    Madissun - maybe try chevapi's instead of hotdogs? Yum, yum.

    Flowerchild - I did know about the nitrates/salt etc so don't give to DD (But I still eat ham and salad sandwiches - I figure I'm pretty big and just tiny slices of shaved ham naughty, naughty). Anyhoo, quick question you will probably know - what about leg of ham/ham on the bone - does that have the nitrates/as much??

  8. #8

    Oct 2005
    A Nestle Free Zone... What about YOU?
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    Well I am glad I could help! Sorry Sarah but yes all ham has nitrites. Anything that is smoked or cured. HOWEVER!!!!!!!!! If you choose organic non nitrite ham and smoked products you canhappily munch... So Leasha get ye to the organic butcher at Forest Glen and he smokes in his own smoke house and does not use nitrites!

    Of course a sometimes food it's all good for us big people. I myself indulge at times. I have a thing for smoked salmon and cream cheese and capers...

  9. #9
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    Dec 2007
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    Well I am glad I could help! Sorry Sarah but yes all ham has nitrites. Anything that is smoked or cured. HOWEVER!!!!!!!!! If you choose organic non nitrite ham and smoked products you canhappily munch... So Leasha get ye to the organic butcher at Forest Glen and he smokes in his own smoke house and does not use nitrites!

    Of course a sometimes food it's all good for us big people. I myself indulge at times. I have a thing for smoked salmon and cream cheese and capers...
    IS that the butcher you can see from the highway in a small row of shops?

  10. #10
    Registered User

    Oct 2007
    Gippsland, Victoria
    714

    Madissun - maybe try chevapi's instead of hotdogs? Yum, yum.
    I've never heard of them Sas- where can i get them from?

  11. #11

    Oct 2005
    A Nestle Free Zone... What about YOU?
    5,374

    2 x 425g can of organic chick peas drained
    lemon juice and rind of one lemon
    2 tablespoons of tahini
    olive oil 2 tablespoons
    4 cloves of garlic

    heat oil in a small pan, when hot add crushed garlic and cook for 1 to 2 minutes.
    remove and cool
    combine chickpeas, garlic and lemon into a food processor and blend (I use a bamix)
    process until smooth
    add tahini and process
    serve as you desire
    keeps for a week!
    yummy!!!!