Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception April/May 2014

[PositivelyGTC]

Hi Ladies, yay it's Friday

Again TTL I am soooooo happy for you, just fabulous news. Wow wonder if you have twins again....could be possible. I know that's not what you want so I hope it's a singleton but as long as they are healthy and happy whatever it is that is all that counts hey

AFM - Our little embie is to be thawed this arvo and transfer is tomorrow morning at 11am so excited. Please say a little prayer our embie is a healthy cell 11 or more tomorrow morning for transfer. Will keep you lovely ladies posted

To everyone I wish you a lovely Friday, with lots of love & light xx

[Joski]

TTL - again, so happy for you - stalked your good news in the TWW thread!!

PGTC - I have all my fingers and toes crossed for your transfer tomorrow morning - how very exciting.

AFM, still waiting on bt results from this morning but heaps more ewcm today so hopefully levels are just prime for O to be happening. Never had it this late before, today is CD28 I think. The ladies at QFG keep asking what cycle I'm doing and if I'm on Clomid when I rock up for my bloods. I just say No, No - just cycle monitoring. Maybe I have become a familiar face that nothing is happening for?

Anyway - yay for Friday xx

[juniper76]

Friday 11 April 2014

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
CatyO - taking a break
Kel82 - taking a break
Jo_white - saving for IVF
Bestrong - waiting for AF
Sarah4kurt - waiting for AF
1 More Please (Rai) - waiting for AF
Nothing2lose - CD9
Miss.B - CD10
Juniper76 - CD10
Emma09 - CD12
Joski - CD30
Amy_jellybean - CD61
Glorious - CD67


Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here... https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...14-5-a-197228/)
PositivelyGTC - CD15 2dpo


Got their BFP in April
TT40 - 28/3 hCG 240 @16dpo!!!
Worrywart - 29/3 +HPT @10dpo, 31/3 hCG 148 @12dpo!!
Thirdtimelucky - 7/4 +HPT @11dpo, 10/4 hCG 409 @14dpo!!


M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Ceejelz, Babycakes


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[juniper76]

Thanks ladies. I'll be starting OPKs today (CD10), which is what I usually do. I gave up on BBTs a while back because I wasn't getting a temp shift until almost a week after the +OPKs and it was just driving me nuts... There was no more bleeding this morning (but there was still some when I went to bed last night), so I'm hoping there will still be none when I do the OPK.

Joski, FX your b/t results show O is imminent. I've O'd as late as CD29, but that was in the same cycle I had my last lap (the lap was at CD4). I think that was the latest? May have been another I'm forgetting though? I'd have to check through my charts on FF... Oh, but my sister O'd after CD30 in her last cycle (after not responding to clomid at all) and now has a 4-week-old bub from that cycle! Not necessarily anything wrong with a late O!!

[juniper76]

Dammit! More bleeding/spotting this afternoon...

[PositivelyGTC]

Juniper - bugger I hope the bleeding stops soon and your O is as per your normal

Joski - hope you have got some good results from your bt


Afm - its with a very heavy heart I have to let you know our little embie did not survive the thaw absolutely gutted. My body has done so well this cycle responding beautifully to all the meds, liming was perfect. Acupunturist said everything is just beautiful today ready for a little embie. Anyway we did still bd of the right days and we had 2 good follies largest was 23mm. Im not holding out too much hope.

Im going to start working on improving my egg quality would really appreciate advice on this

Love & light to you all, wishing everyone a wonderful weekend x

[Miss.B]

I'm so sorry again Positively, I'm gutted for you too, you were so ready for your transfer. I'm sorry your little embie didn't survive the thaw . In terms of egg quality, the only thing I can suggest is the COQ10 tablets, I've been on these for a while now, I'm hoping it's helping my eggs. Take care lovely, I'm hoping DTD has done its trick, FX xxx

[Joski]

So sorry to hear PGTC... Hugs x

[juniper76]

Oh no! FX for a happy surprise in spite of the cancelled transfer.

[thirdtimelucky77]

Oh positively I am so sorry your transfer has been cancelled because your embie didn't survive the thaw As Miss B said, I know you were so ready and excited - so I am just devastated for you...

I am sure I posted last night, but then I thought your post was slightly different as well? So maybe you updated your post - but my post has disappeared entirely? (either I'm losing my mind or it just didn't upload... So please know I did pop in to say good luck and I saw your message and responded accordingly, but it must not have uploaded ) I just wanted to let you know I am thinking of you and am here if you need anything.

I have everything doubly crossed for you that you get your natural miracle! Your still in the 2ww! You BD'ed at just the right time so your def in with a shot at getting your happy ending. Stranger things have happened!

Joski - fingers crossed the o is happening as we speak! You have the perfect excuse for a weekend spent in bed Great timing that it is the weekend, so you can BD as much as you want! I'm sure your DH will be thrilled!

Juniper - yay for OPk's! That's fantastic that your sister conceived her baby naturally on a cycle with late O! And she has a beautiful little newborn I love hearing happy stories like hers. I don't know if this is relevant to you at all - but I just thought I would mention it because you said something in your previous post that I can relate very closely too! I also experienced horrifically heavy periods almost from the day I started menstruating. Unused to have to miss school for the first few days of my cycle because I was either in excruciating pain, or I would faint from the heaviness of my cycle.

About a year ago my gynae (who is also my FS and was my OB until he retired in June 2012) suggested we do some exploratory tests to see if we could get to the bottom of what was causing my AF to be heavy, very painful, long in duration and with lots of clots (sorry for the TMI but I would be interested in whether you experience the same symptoms..?) at that time I have developed a new symptom - which was mid cycle bleeding). My AF would finish and then a few days later I would start spotting again. Sometimes it would just be spotting and other times it would be like I had my AF again. At first it didn't worry me but when we decided we definitely wanted to try for our final baby, we thought it might be time to investigate and find out what was going on...

I went to see my gynae/ FS and explained all the symptoms I was suffering (he put me on Endone for the pain - which is pretty heavy and I knew wasn't sustainable eg I didn't want to be taking it every month!) and sent me off for a vaginal ultrasound (I had to wait as the best time to have this kind of scan/ test is 1 or 2 dues pre ovulation). Anyway, I had been OPKing having BT's to track and the numbers leading in to ovulation were really good....

Went for the ultrasound and I was shocked when the lady doing it said I had 3 really good sized follicles on my right ovary (none on my left which is pretty standard post surgery) but that I was not going to ovulate that cycle? So it was an anovulatory cycle. She also found Andomyosis (which is basically endo but inside your uterus). She gave me the scans and I waited for the report and she sprang my gynae/ FS and asked him to fit me in again that afternoon.

When I saw him, he explained what Andomyosis is (turns out this is what he was testing for all along, but he didn't want to mention it to me unless the scan showed that I had it, which it did). I had never heard of it - but I now know that it is basically endo - but inside your uterus). As for the anovulatory cycle... I hammered him with questions as I didn't understand how I could have several good sized follicles and that my bloods were saying I was going to ovulate - but I apparently wasn't. Anyway we kept ov tracking and basically the levels kept rising and I had the normal symptoms ewcm etc except they were sure nothing was going to be released... It turned out that although the levels were rising - they never actually 'peaked' so essentially they rose, but not enough to trigger the release of eggs from the follicles... He did explain it, numerous times but I still couldn't and don't really understand it...

Anyway - he booked me in for a D&C (which I really didn't want to have because I am paranoid that they weaken your cervix and can make it hard to carry a viable pg to term and I'd already had 2 - 5 years ago after several miscarriages...) which I had at my fertility clinic (didn't like that bit much either) and when I woke up he came to see me in recovery and explained that I did have Andomyosis I was pretty devastated as we knew we wanted a final baby and he had already explained that the only long-term cure for Andomyosis and the pain and heavy bleeding it causes - is a hysterectomy.

Why am I even raising this? Sorry for the stupidly long post about something none of us want to think about... I guess because I had never heard of Andomyosis (endo yes and I had had my last lot of endo removed after DS 4.5 was born) and I didn't realize that having it could prevent a future pg from implanting properly. So when I described my symptoms to him, it was the mid cycle bleeding and the heaviness and associated pain that made him think I might have Andomyosis.

I had the D&C about 3 months ago and he said after scraping all the Ando out - that the mid cycle bleeding should disappear and my AF should be lighter and less painful. He was correct the mid cycle bleeds stopped and while my AF has remained heavy, I no longer experience the clotting that I did previously! He said that it would increase my chances of falling pg in any future cycles within the next 6 months (apparently after that it can start to grow again, same as endo).. Anyway, I just thought it might be something worth investigating for you, if your additional bleeding after AF doesn't go away? I really only thought of it after I noticed in your signature that you had suffered previously with severe endo! Your gynae or FS may have already considered this and checked you for it.. It's just not something I have ever heard many people mention (IRL or on BB) so I just thought maybe it might be worth me mentioning... I'm def not trying to be negative or upset anyone, or anything like that... I was just really glad that for me that the problem was identified and treated, firstly because it made AF more bearable and secondly because we didn't waste any embies - having transfers that may have had less success in implanting because of the Ando in my uterus...

I'm not a dr so I am sure there are many reasons for mid cycle bleeds (eg ovulation!) but if bleeding is pre ov (and I'm sure many things can cause this other than Ando) I just thought it may be something you may appreciate being aware of?

Happy Saturday ladies - I hope everyone has an enjoyable and relaxing weekend... And for those waiting on ov or just something to happen, fingers crossed that then lead up to Easter sees your dreams come true. Xx

[juniper76]

Saturday 12 April 2014

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
CatyO - taking a break
Kel82 - taking a break
Jo_white - saving for IVF
Bestrong - waiting for AF
Sarah4kurt - waiting for AF
1 More Please (Rai) - waiting for AF
Nothing2lose - CD10
Miss.B - CD11
Juniper76 - CD11
Emma09 - CD13
Joski - CD31
Amy_jellybean - CD62
Glorious - CD68


Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here... https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...14-5-a-197228/)
PositivelyGTC - CD16 3dpo


Got their BFP in April
TT40 - 28/3 hCG 240 @16dpo!!!
Worrywart - 29/3 +HPT @10dpo, 31/3 hCG 148 @12dpo!!
Thirdtimelucky - 7/4 +HPT @11dpo, 10/4 hCG 409 @14dpo!!


M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Ceejelz, Babycakes


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[juniper76]

3rdTL, I've heard of Adenomyosis before, but never been diagnosed. My periods have been a lot lighter for the last 10 months for some reason. Anyway, I made an appt with the GP to discuss the bleeding and will also ask for a new referral to the FS (mine expired in February).

[nothing2lose]

I have adenomyosis. I was diagnosed about 10 years ago. Basically, you bleed into the muscle wall which causes the pain.

Adenomyosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Joski]

Wow TTL, thanks so much for your post (and juniper and N2L for your info too). I had never heard of this but it is something I will keep in mind for myself.

This time was the first mid cycle bleed I had ever experienced. I am getting ewcm and in quantities that would indicate O but my bloods are showing my levels rising, rising and rising but it feels like they are not going anywhere and then the ewcm disappears.

I have had shockingly heavy bleeds since coming off the pill and my endo has prescribed Mobic to stem the flow, which has helped. The last two months leading up,to O I have experienced shocking lower back pain. To the point where I have taken prescribe muscle relaxants as Voltaren etc don't work. Then suddenly the pain disappears as if nothing happened.

I'm wondering if these are all interlinking symptoms??

Anyway another bt tomorrow morning and we will just keep bding this weekend.

Xxx

[thirdtimelucky77]

Hi N2L thank you so much for responding!! And for getting the spelling right!! I knew I had it wrong but couldn't work out which bit was wrong... So sorry ladies for giving you the wrong name and a bum steer so to speak, hopefully you weren't trying to google the wrong name! N2L can I ask - If you were diagnosed 10 years ago - how have you managed the condition since then? I ask because my diagnoses is relatively new, so I have had one D&C and I've been told by my gynae/FS that after this pg I will need to have a hysterectomy (sour family will be well and truly finished) to get rid of the the condition once and for all... I have been advised that if I have my uterus removed but keep my right ovary, that assuming I don't have any cysts on my right ovary that need to be removed, I will be able to keep my right ovary and not have to go on hormone replacement, to prevent menopause symptoms at the relatively young age of 38.

Have you had to have fairly regular D&C's to have the Adenomyosis removed? It's actually really great to meet someone else who has it, although I'm really sorry you have it and I hope that it isn't causing you massive complications with TTC

Juniper it's great you've made a Dr's appointment and I guess it's just something worth mentioning/ asking about. I'm not sure about you, but I just sometimes feels as though it's one medical issue after another... Which after a while becomes tiresome and you just get 'over it'. Hopefully Adenomyosis won't be an issue for you - but I guess its good to be aware it exists in case this is something that comes up in the future.

Joski - yay for the levels continuing to rise! I agree with whoever said just keep BD'ing, hopefully it will all be for a good cause The "shocking lower back pain" is something I struggle with as well every cycle and it's just debilitating, I hope the info above may help you as well - but I also really hope you don't have Adenomyosis - that being said, I'm assuming it's nit that common and so same as shimmied I hope it's not something you need to give much thought to!

N2L thanks so much for explaining what causes the pain! It really is debilitating isn't it? It's good to 'see you again on BB' I haven't been here much since my twinnies were born in 2012. But I have fond meninges of cycling with you, before they were conceived (I am also really grateful for you providing the correct spelling! I feel really bad for getting the name wrong for The super j's (Joski and Juniper) - like the super K's on the Block

Happy Sunday ladies - hope everyone has a great day.

Xxx

[juniper76]

Sunday 13 April 2014

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
CatyO - taking a break
Kel82 - taking a break
Jo_white - saving for IVF
Bestrong - waiting for AF
Sarah4kurt - waiting for AF
1 More Please (Rai) - waiting for AF
Nothing2lose - CD11
Miss.B - CD12
Juniper76 - CD12
Emma09 - CD14
Joski - CD32
Amy_jellybean - CD63
Glorious - CD69


Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here... https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...14-5-a-197228/)
PositivelyGTC - CD17 4dpo


Got their BFP in April
TT40 - 28/3 hCG 240 @16dpo!!!
Worrywart - 29/3 +HPT @10dpo, 31/3 hCG 148 @12dpo!!
Thirdtimelucky - 7/4 +HPT @11dpo, 10/4 hCG 409 @14dpo!!


M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Ceejelz, Babycakes


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[juniper76]

I'm not sure about you, but I just sometimes feels as though it's one medical issue after another... Which after a while becomes tiresome and you just get 'over it'.

Yes, yes! 100 times, yes!

And, to be honest, I can't help but worry that the bleeding is an early menopause symptom (one possible reason is low oestrogen) and I'm only 37 (for another month, anyway)...

[Joski]

Yes x1000 to the continuing medical issues....hehehe, I like the super j's TTL!

Now, drum roll please....... We finally have O!!