Nic & Smithy - nah haven't done it yet, it will be one of those ongoing dares until she wears me down.

As for IVF drugs and males, the Puregon is used to treat a few reproductive type disorders (developmental I think) in males. Don't know about the others. There's no way you'd catch me sniffing Synarel that's for sure. I might grown an unwanted ovary and DW has more than enough for both of us at the moment.

Hi Deni and welcome. I think a couple of pages back I mentioned our needle situation, and if you do a search of my posts there will other references from earlier. But as BG said, DW is not a needle fan club member, and I therefore offered to look after it. Basically, she'd nearly faint talking about needles and would need all sorts of distraction tricks to have BTs in the past. However, she had another BT this morning and such is her total lack of carefactor any more that she forgot to mention it when she rang me this morning, and then when I asked her, her attitude was like "oh yeah, fine, whatever, and as I was saying...". The turn around in her attitude has been amazing. As I said to Leeshie recently, when you're faced with circumstances and you're very focussed on the outcome, a lot of the mental stuff gets sorted out fairly quickly I think. It's really nowhere near as bad as you might think and I know that DW was very concerned about all the needles before we started IVF.

The reason I've continued to do the needles is just simply so DW doesn't stress about them and have to prepare them etc. I'm quite happy doing it all for her and it makes me feel slightly less guilty about putting her through all of this in the first place. She reckons it's a big help so that's good enough for me.

Shannon, thanks for your encouraging words and it's actually made me feel a lot better. It's just biology as I keep telling myself! I don't understand how a heart can beat nonstop for 80+ years, but it does, and so it follows (At least in my mind) that it can't be that hard for sperm to do its thing. It's just typical of me, if I don't get how something works I get dubious about it.